Hello, I'm flynn!:laugh:
I just recently bought the Lg G3 and I love it so far but I now want to root to get rid of stock apps that can't be uninstalled and eventually go onto CM12. I have read about V6 update and how we're not supposed to update because we'll lose root but I wanted to update and see if I liked the lg g3 stock or not. I also have downloaded the LG flashtool and LG G3 Drivers and have followed the tutorial here for the lg flash tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-restore-sprint-lg-g3-ls990-t2852042/post54912191#post54912191
Now my question becomes. If I use the flashtool back to v4, will my current modem and kernel be replaced by the one used with v4? Or will only my rom be replaced?
Another question, after i flashtool back to v4 I want to go back onto v6. Will the odexed rooted v6 include the kernel and modem needed when I flash the v6 pre-rooted rom? I read the forum for the rooted v6 odexed and deodexed and it says that the bare rom has stock kernal and modems so I am not sure because at the bottom there are bone stock and intid kernels.
I did lots of reading and I am now very scared to root. I read the Q&A for the lg g3 and I saw a question about the lg g3 having cdma and gsm modems. Does that mean I need to flash multiple modems?
Also, I can flash the unofficial cm12 if i'm on rooted stock v6 right? as long as I have twrp recovery?
Please take good care of my LG G3 community! I'm looking forward to how far this device will go this year!
Also, HUGE shoutout to @engine95. I have been researching and looking through the forums so I can familiarize myself with the root process on the lg g3 and he has just done great and amazing things for the G3. Seems like he's the only dev working on this phone. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK!!! :good::good::laugh::laugh:
IamFlynn said:
Hello, I'm flynn!:laugh:
I just recently bought the Lg G3 and I love it so far but I now want to root to get rid of stock apps that can't be uninstalled and eventually go onto CM12. I have read about V6 update and how we're not supposed to update because we'll lose root but I wanted to update and see if I liked the lg g3 stock or not. I also have downloaded the LG flashtool and LG G3 Drivers and have followed the tutorial here for the lg flash tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...g-g3-ls990-t2852042/post54912191#post54912191
Now my question becomes. If I use the flashtool back to v4, will my current modem and kernel be replaced by the one used with v4? Or will only my rom be replaced?
Another question, after i flashtool back to v4 I want to go back onto v6. Will the odexed rooted v6 include the kernel and modem needed when I flash the v6 pre-rooted rom? I read the forum for the rooted v6 odexed and deodexed and it says that the bare rom has stock kernal and modems so I am not sure because at the bottom there are bone stock and intid kernels.
I did lots of reading and I am now very scared to root. I read the Q&A for the lg g3 and I saw a question about the lg g3 having cdma and gsm modems. Does that mean I need to flash multiple modems?
Also, I can flash the unofficial cm12 if i'm on rooted stock v6 right? as long as I have twrp recovery?
Please take good care of my LG G3 community! I'm looking forward to how far this device will go this year!
Also, HUGE shoutout to @engine95. I have been researching and looking through the forums so I can familiarize myself with the root process on the lg g3 and he has just done great and amazing things for the G3. Seems like he's the only dev working on this phone. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK!!! :good::good::laugh::laugh:
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1. Yes. Flashtool to ZV4 will replace modem and kernel back to ZV4.
2. Yes the ZV6 Roms include modem and kernel. The others are there if people want them for whatever reason. It's all in the OP's of the threads.
3. One modem for both GSM and CDMA.
4. If you root and unlock, you can flash any ROM here.
5. Thanks. But no, I'm not the only one working on our phone. I'm just the only one that posts a lot. Lol
There are a lot of others doing awesome work.
Thank you! I just successfully flashtooled back to v4 and then rooted and bunped. I also flashed back to stock rooted v6.
Thank you again for replying and everything you've done!
I would like to try out new custom roms (I'm currently on stock rom zv4 rooted)
1) Does the LG G3 quick circle work on all custom roms? Or just specific stock based roms? I am very dependent on the quick circle. Also if quick circle does work on custom roms, is it a much faster than stock rom? On stock rom quick circle feels kind of slow.
2) I'm currently on KitKat & would like to update to LolliPop which is why I want to try out a new custom Rom? Does Xposed work as good as it does on KitKat or are there things I should be aware.
3) Stupid Question, what is the difference between Sprint LG G3 Android Development & Sprint G3 Original Android Development?
4) Is it best to update to ZVA via phone provider, then root, bump, then custom rom? Or continue from where I am currently on zv4 root, bump, then custom rom? Will I need to flash zva modem if i stay on zv4?
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I would like to try out new custom roms (I'm currently on stock rom zv4 rooted)
1) Does the LG G3 quick circle work on all custom roms? Or just specific stock based roms? I am very dependent on the quick circle. Also if quick circle does work on custom roms, is it a much faster than stock rom? On stock rom quick circle feels kind of slow.
2) I'm currently on KitKat & would like to update to LolliPop which is why I want to try out a new custom Rom? Does Xposed work as good as it does on KitKat or are there things I should be aware.
3) Stupid Question, what is the difference between Sprint LG G3 Android Development & Sprint G3 Original Android Development?
4) Is it best to update to ZVA via phone provider, then root, bump, then custom rom? Or continue from where I am currently on zv4 root, bump, then custom rom? Will I need to flash zva modem if i stay on zv4?
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As far as I know there is a quick circle app for AOSP roms, not sure how far along it is. Not too sure about Xposed, never use it. Difference between original and android development is original is a rom that is built without using other developers work, like CyanogenMod. Android development is roms made using parts of 1 or more roms with their permission, making them not original. Zv4 is easiest to root and then add bumped TWRP recovery. After I had zv4, I flashed engine95's stock zva without loosing root or rrecovery.
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I went with non bumped twrp because HTC and dumlock issues... After I got recovery installed I backup and went to wipe factory reset instead I accidentally wiped internal storage and lost my backup and the CM ROM I was about to flash... So my phone was soft bricked but it is back up. If bumped is like HTC dumblock I may not have been so lucky getting my phone back up CM12.1 is only 340mb and stock lg ROM was 2gb and I have crappy internet. So if your looking for a good ROM CM is amazing to so far...
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Hi, it been a long time since I have been on here. I'm running 4.4.2 stock based Rom and want to upgrade to SD or Jasmine and not sure which is more stable. There is too much to read between the to roms so if someone can help that would be great.
As far as I know, both and also @xdabbeb 's VS985 ROM are all just as stable as stock 35B / LG Android 5.1.1 since they're all based on it. I never experienced any more or less stability on one versus another versus 100% unrooted stock, which I was on recently after the 35B OTA came out and we couldn't figure out how to be able to downgrade to re-root at first.
I'm sorry if I'm asking questions that have been answered here, but I am new to rooting and am suffering from information overload. I get confused about references to stock Android and whether this means the stock Verizon version or the untouched Android that Nexus devices get.
I'm using this phone through Tracfone and thus do not receive OTA updates. This also makes all of the Verizon bloat all the more useless. I'm not looking for a special ROM, I just want vanilla Android that will receive new updates over wifi.
Is this possible?
Hi. Stock means what LG/Verizon put on our phone. I understand the confusion, though, and I used to be confused about it too. It's best to call "pure" or "purer" Android AOSP, or from what I've read there isn't any true full AOSP that's user compiled any more - they're all more or less based on CyanogenMod, so "AOSP" or "CM", but CM is more realistic. AOSP is what Nexus has, although of course, it can be called stock too since in that case they're one in the same unless you're running a user-compiled AOSP in which case if it were me I would call it something else to distinguish it from the stock AOSP on Nexus.
CyanogenMod-based ROMs will be the closest you'll get. CM13 for Marshmallow. I don't know if CM gets OTAs, I think sometimes in the past they have, at least once a version of CM has gone "final" (not sure if CM13 has gone final). Some ROMs that are based on CM have OTAs too.
I can't speak as to how well these work. I used to use CM-based ROMs more on other phones but for me, stock works so much more reliably/predictably and overall smoother than AOSP/CM. AOSP/CM and International-based stock ROMs always seem to have some unreliableness factor.
If you want a debloated but reliable ROM based on stock (which would receive OTAs if there ever are any more, but it's doubtful there will be), use @xdabbeb 's stock 47A (Marshmallow) firmware along with either my debloat zips or the debloat generator made by another user, which I link to in the third post of the 47A firmware thread in the Development section. The debloat zips/generator are also linked to in my signature below.
Overall, personally, I consider @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM, based on 35B (5.1.1) the best ROM, but I'm currently using the stock 47A firmware with complete debloating and am satisfied with it.
I use Xposed and G3TweaksBox to get some features on stock ROMs that I consider a must.
The easiest way to flash the ROM I mentioned is (if you're not rooted yet), first tell us what version of the stock ROM you're on. If it's anything but 23C or 24B, the absolute easiest way to root and put custom recovery on is by downgrading to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Links to the TOT and DLL in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, also the first link in my signature below.
Directions and the links to the program to flash TOTs, you'll have to Google for.
In the future, please ask all questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread. Thanks!
Thanks for the response. I am definitely most interested in reliability. After reading your post, I think I might just stick with the stock Verizon image and wait for the upgrade tool to release Marshmallow.
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Thanks for the response. I am definitely most interested in reliability. After reading your post, I think I might just stick with the stock Verizon image and wait for the upgrade tool to release Marshmallow.
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You're welcome! Or if I didn't say it before, you can flash the 47A KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014, preferably with the CSE option which will wipe all data including internal storage, so use the built in LG Backup and also move what you want to keep from your internal storage.
Hi,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i545 (Verizon) that has the locked bootloader, and therefore has limited ROMs available. I am considering picking up a used LG G3 and would like to know if there are any "gotchas" to be aware of? Has Verizon & AT&T locked the bootloaders to the G3 as well, or is root and custom recovery a go for all versions?
Appreciate your feedback!
Short answer: You can root and "Bump" the boot-loader;
Longer answer (obviously there is a MUCH longer and complete answer, but this should get you started): Depending on who you talk to, the Boot-loader is quasi/unlocked. You may need to restore an older firmware in order to root and Bump though. I am still not 100% clear on the specifics, but I believe there was a work-around for the boot-loader to get a custom recovery installed - this is the Bump. From there, all kernel's and Rom's need to be "Bumped" in order to flash. Every kernel/ROM I've seen on XDA is already Bumped, so you shouldn't have any issues flashing anything.
Hope that makes sense. For more info on which firmware will allow you to do what, http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/verizon-lg-g3-one-toolkit-vs985-root-t3124846
In order to be able to install and get into TWRP or any custom recovery, you have to use the 12B (KitKat) bootloader or below (10C KitKat, 11C KitKat). It's easiest to root on 10B with the Stump app. You can downgrade from every official stock version, although from 35B and higher, the only way to downgrade is to flash the 10B TOT file from Windows using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ (even if you're downgrading from 46A or 47A).
Rooting gets more complicated after 10B, and putting TWRP on gets more complicated after 12B.
Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just got a refub.ed G3 VS985 off ebay for $109 last week (saw a $99 deal a few days ago). It came with 35B version ... easy to downgraded back to 10B, then rooted (stump apk) , then added TWRP 3.0.0.0 (TWRP apk), then flashed 35B bootstack + stock47A.
Had quite a bit of issues (going back to 10B) due to a corrupted TOT file causing "Failed Previous Load" for LGFlashTool.
@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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It took me awhile to realize the corrupted TOT file was causing the downgrade problem ... otherwise, the process was painless. I'm having no issue with the stock-rooted47A. Will start playing with other ROMs soon.
This G3 is about the same as my old G2, regarding root & ROMs. So I'm feeling pretty comfortable.
Note: I've been using the G4 for the last year ... but it has no root solution ... so I'm getting the G3 just to have some fun (kinda miss my old G2).
Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back. I'm using an old moto x2 now. After posting in another thread elsewhere and describing what I'm looking for in a New(used) phone, someone recommended the G3 and after some reading I see that it fits the bill perfectly. (Ext SD, Replaceable battery, 5" or larger display) I had been thinking about a new moto or a note but root and ext sd are a must. I also need a phone with decent reception. My S3 was terrible compared to my old Droid X and X2, and since signal at home is hit or miss (95db/m on my dx2 now) I want a phone that pulls in signal well.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
I'm pretty sure that's everything I can find out how to do everything once I acquire the device. The link in the first reply above is most helpful.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
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Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back.
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Hi! I too, came from the S3, albeit the Sprint version. I loved that phone, by the way. I think overall I was most satisfied on the S3 but the G3 definitely has some great specifications in comparison.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
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I can't comment regarding this. I've moved too many times in the past 6 years and had four different Android phones in that time.
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
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Yes. The overall wisest way is to flash the 10B (KitKat) TOT using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B (Lollipop 5.1.1) KDZ from a Windows PC, then use the Stump app to root it using the brute force method.
Google for:
Code:
XDA Stump
and then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to install TWRP. Rooting gets more complicated after 10B and installing TWRP gets more complicated after 12B.
To flash a ROM - the order you flash things in matters if you end up dealing with JasmineROM 9.x or SkyDragon 6.x. After flashing either of those two ROMs, flash either the 24B or 35B Bootstack that you can find in @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread in the Development section. Depending on which Bootstack you flashed, if you flashed it before flashing either of those two ROMs, you'll brick your phone. Recoverable but no sense doing it if you can avoid it.
I recommend just getting used to flashing the appropriate Bootstack after flashing any ROM, that way you don't have to remember that with those two ROMs you can brick if you flash the Bootstack first. There's more details and exceptions but there's no use overloading you. If you always flash the Bootstack after, there's nothing else to worry about.
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
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No. For what it's worth in my opinion, I don't bother fooling with non-stock Verizon LG ROMs any more. CyanogenMod/AOSP and ports of international stock ROMs often end up not working quite 100%, and you won't get all the features you will on stock. You can't use laser focus on CyanogenMod no matter what camera app you use, there are workarounds that at least used to work to get QuickRemote working on non-stock ROMs, but I haven't fooled with them in over a year so I have no idea if the same way works on newer ROMs.
I can get the most important to me features of non-stock ROMs by using Xposed and modules like G3TweaksBox.
All too often, after a user has flashed a handful of non-stock ROMs, sometimes they end up not being able to get Mobile Data working, even if they flash a stock rooted ROM. Only flashing the TOT or a KDZ will fix such a situation. TOT is recommended, it flashes more partitions than KDZs and can fix issues KDZs can't.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
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I can't really speak to this either. Every time I'm tempted to go Nexus the price and/or the no MicroSD card or lack of as good a camera etc sways me away. I'm going to keep my eye on the HTC 10 in half a year when I may be in the market again, but it won't be that cheap that soon.
Congratulations, you just absorbed 1 1/2 years of experience with LG devices that I got by reading nearly every post in nearly every thread in the G3 sections since that time, and flashing both my VS985s and my VK810 many dozens of times.
P.S. If you go with the VS985, although I've been on @xdabbeb 's as pure stock while rooted 47A Marshmallow (although heavily debloated) for several months now, his custom ROM based on 35B is my overall favorite. You probably won't go wrong with either one of those, in my opinion.
Edit: By the way, it's a common enough occurence on the G3 that when flashing TOTs or KDZs, and maybe other situations, some people have gotten their IMEI wiped and have to go through some headache to put it back in, and you need to know what it was to begin with.
So if you flash back to 10B, root and install TWRP, the first thing you should back up in TWRP is "EFS" which includes your IMEI. Then save that somewhere like on Google Drive. It'll save you a lot of headache if you lose your IMEI. That said, I haven't lost mine once in several dozen flashes on my wife's and my G3s.
If you're still thinking of getting a G3, I was looking at Ebay last night and noticed they are selling refurbished G3's for $100.00 - I think with free shipping.
Just FYI