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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
butikofer08 said:
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
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As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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I am just running rooted stock. Any good place to keep track of that info?
depends on update
it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
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it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
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I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
Thing I really want is an update to get the brightness widget in the notificaiton bar. The current version I have does not have that update.
xJoe3x said:
I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
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I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
mas4489 said:
I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
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I have not worked with a custom rom before, though I am not opposed to doing so. What should I know about customer roms? I heard that CM9 was out for the S3 what do think of that as a custom mod.
its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
mas4489 said:
its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
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Hmm ya it looks like a good choice. I think I may go with it, but cyanogenmod has a nightly too which I have heard is supposed to be a great rom.
Hi!
Before the OTA jelly bean upgrade i had rooted my tablet using DebugfsRoot primarily for the reason that i wanted to use my PS3 controller with the tab.
Everything went good and i had a blast, then the OTA upgrade came. I was really stocked to try out jelly bean so i decided to take the upgrade even though i knew it would break my root (i was thinking there will probably be another way to root again in a few weeks).
I later cleared the tablets memory and it's SD-card to get a smoother experience on JB.
So here i am, jelly bean and not rooted. I've begun researching how to get my root back and from what I've gathered i need to:
unlock the bootloader,
downgrade to ISC,
root,
save the root,
upgrade to jelly bean,
recover the root.
That's a lot of steps for someone who has only rooted using the automated tool, and to be honest it scared me a little.
I just wanted to know if there is any other (preferably easier) way and if i can lock the bootloader after I've unlocked it (since the warranty goes away).
If there isn't any easier way, does anyone of you know a step-by-step guide i can follow?
Thanks,
Tallkotten
Tallkotten said:
Hi!
Before the OTA jelly bean upgrade i had rooted my tablet using DebugfsRoot primarily for the reason that i wanted to use my PS3 controller with the tab.
Everything went good and i had a blast, then the OTA upgrade came. I was really stocked to try out jelly bean so i decided to take the upgrade even though i knew it would break my root (i was thinking there will probably be another way to root again in a few weeks).
I later cleared the tablets memory and it's SD-card to get a smoother experience on JB.
So here i am, jelly bean and not rooted. I've begun researching how to get my root back and from what I've gathered i need to:
unlock the bootloader,
downgrade to ISC,
root,
save the root,
upgrade to jelly bean,
recover the root.
That's a lot of steps for someone who has only rooted using the automated tool, and to be honest it scared me a little.
I just wanted to know if there is any other (preferably easier) way and if i can lock the bootloader after I've unlocked it (since the warranty goes away).
If there isn't any easier way, does anyone of you know a step-by-step guide i can follow?
Thanks,
Tallkotten
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You cannot downgrade to ICS unless you did nvflash while on ICS which you haven't.
Your process would be, unlock bootloader, install TWRP recovery, flash custom jellybean rom with root built in.
flumpster said:
You cannot downgrade to ICS unless you did nvflash while on ICS which you haven't.
Your process would be, unlock bootloader, install TWRP recovery, flash custom jellybean rom with root built in.
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Thanks, but then i wont be able to have the vanilla android experience. Or is it any ROM that's basically the same as normal android but root in it?
Why is it that i cant just unlock bootloader and then root? Do i really need to swap roms?
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Thanks, but then i wont be able to have the vanilla android experience. Or is it any ROM that's basically the same as normal android but root in it?
Why is it that i cant just unlock bootloader and then root? Do i really need to swap roms?
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Hairybean 1.51 is basically the stock rom experience with root and speed tweaks.
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Hairybean 1.51 is basically the stock rom experience with root and speed tweaks.
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I see, thank you very much.
It just seems like a lot of stuff to go through compared to that automated root. Never wanted to change ROMS :/
Are you certain there isn't any other way?
Tallkotten said:
I see, thank you very much.
It just seems like a lot of stuff to go through compared to that automated root. Never wanted to change ROMS :/
Are you certain there isn't any other way?
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Well u can unlock, flash twrp and then just flash a root zip in TWRP but that is no less steps than flashing the rom and you have none of the speed improvements. The reason most people unlock is to install the custom rom because it is far faster than stock but if that's what you want to do so be it
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Well u can unlock, flash twrp and then just flash a root zip in TWRP but that is no less steps than flashing the rom and you have none of the speed improvements. The reason most people unlock is to install the custom rom because it is far faster than stock but if that's what you want to do so be it
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It's just that if i flash a ROM then i (since i like to be thorough) have to research and spend lots of time checking which ROM is best for me
We'll see what i end up doing.
Do you know how the warranty is affected by unlocking? And can it be restored to it's original state after an unlock?
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It's just that if i flash a ROM then i (since i like to be thorough) have to research and spend lots of time checking which ROM is best for me
We'll see what i end up doing.
Do you know how the warranty is affected by unlocking? And can it be restored to it's original state after an unlock?
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There is no research to do. You say you want it like stock, that only leaves hairybean 1.51 for you.
Once you are unlocked you cannot relock and your warranty is void.
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There is no research to do. You say you want it like stock, that only leaves hairybean 1.51 for you.
Once you are unlocked you cannot relock and your warranty is void.
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Ok, thanks for your help. I'm still undecided on what to do at the moment :/
Tallkotten said:
Ok, thanks for your help. I'm still undecided on what to do at the moment :/
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I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
tweeny80 said:
I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
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Some observations. I am not sure what the actual percentage is but from what I have seen most of the people who have sent their prime in for warranty work have gotten back a prime that can not be unlocked. I am pretty sure that if I got green camera or something of that nature I would just live with it or repair it myself. If and when ASUS releases a 4.2 update it will be an improvement to the stock os that will still not bring stock os on locked prime to a fraction of the speed and productivity available on an unlocked prime using a custom rom. Further anything asus releases will be available within the week with improvements by devs for unlocked primes. The warranty on the prime is for people who have the explicit goal to keep the tablet mediocre at best.
tweeny80 said:
I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
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Haha. Just got my Nexus 4 a few days ago and i can tell you that 4.2 is awesome. I really miss it when i'm using my prime.
The only reason i'd like root is to have more freedom with my PS3 controller... Why did they have to go and make is so hard to root? :/
Will there ever be a way to root JB without unlock the Prime or is that technically impossible?
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Will there ever be a way to root JB without unlock the Prime or is that technically impossible?
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I'd love an answer to this as well
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I'd love an answer to this as well
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So much time passed and nobody answered this important question.
I have a rooted Nook tablet so not a complete noob, but how safe is the root process for a verizon Galaxy s4? I'd like to root it so I can get rid of some of the junk apps and install others I want, but I void my two yr warranty...thoughts from the experts? just want to feel comfortable moving forward and if so, is there a set of clear instructions somewhere?
Thanks to all
The search button is your friend.
I have also rooted verizon schi545 cm10'd I did not see aps to sd so now I went back to stock mdk 4.2.2 so now what take update or is there another rom that has aps to sd ?
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wedmiston said:
I have a rooted Nook tablet so not a complete noob, but how safe is the root process for a verizon Galaxy s4? I'd like to root it so I can get rid of some of the junk apps and install others I want, but I void my two yr warranty...thoughts from the experts? just want to feel comfortable moving forward and if so, is there a set of clear instructions somewhere?
Thanks to all
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Instead of an asinine comment that does you no go, here's some info.
Yes, rooting will void the warranty. However, you can always Odin to go back to stock should you have an issue that requires returning your phone to VZW.
I've rooted both my old S3 and my current S4. I JUST started rooting on the S3, so I'm relatively new as well but have learned a lot. My S3 was stock rooted, but I took the plunge with my S4 and am running HyperDrive ROM which is HOLY MOLY sweetness.
It's up to you, but if you're going to root, perhaps look at the ROMs that are available and flash one. I'm not sorry that I started flashing Roms. Not one bit
Wolffgirl
Three replies thus far and yours is the only one of solid benefit..thanks. Can you point me anywhere to see step by step to accomplish what you did on your S4?
wedmiston said:
Wolffgirl
Three replies thus far and yours is the only one of solid benefit..thanks. Can you point me anywhere to see step by step to accomplish what you did on your S4?
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Here is the link to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
How old is your S4? The reason that I ask is that there was an OTA update the broke root. Currently there are Dev's looking into how to root with the new firmware.
Have you installed the OTA update?
Phone is about a month old...I have made no changes to the existing phone so I don.t know about the OTA update (although the VW software that came with it appears to update the phones software when plugged into laptop)
wedmiston said:
Phone is about a month old...I have made no changes to the existing phone so I don.t know about the OTA update (although the VW software that came with it appears to update the phones software when plugged into laptop)
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Go to ->Setting->More->About Phone and tell me what you Baseband version says. If it's VRUAME7, you have the OTA update. If it's VRUAMDK, you do not.
confirming VRUAME7
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Go to ->Setting->More->About Phone and tell me what you Baseband version says. If it's VRUAME7, you have the OTA update. If it's VRUAMDK, you do not.
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wedmiston said:
confirming VRUAME7
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Unfortunately you will not be able to root until a new method becomes available.
is it possible to back up to pre-OTA update status?
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Unfortunately you will not be able to root until a new method becomes available.
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wedmiston said:
is it possible to back up to pre-OTA update status?
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No.....there is no way to uninstall the update. Patience, young rooting grasshopper! A new method will be out shortly, I would imagine. Doesn't usually take too long,
Much appreciated...and lastly can you point me to how I would reinstall what you refer to as Odin should I screw up a future root process?
wedmiston said:
Much appreciated...and lastly can you point me to how I would reinstall what you refer to as Odin should I screw up a future root process?
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This link explains how to go back to stock by using Odin: http://www.sxtpdevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=237
So I'm currently back on Stock ZV6 waiting patiently for the Lollipop update (will return to root once lollipop is rooted) because I want lollipop as soon as it's released OTA. Since I don't have root anymore, I am unable to delete stock apps that potentially slow the phone down. Since I am not on root, I no longer use Greenify as it is not the same without root. My phone has been draining throughout the day even with normal use (texting, snapchat, facebook, clash of clans, etc.) and it would be around 20-30% at the end of the day (11-12pm-ish). I never had that bad of battery life on root.
I was able to look in the developer settings in the settings app and turn on "Do not keep activities". I have found that turning that on basically turns off multitasking and kills every app (stops it from running like Greenify or task killer apps do) after you exit.
My battery has been so much better and I no longer think I will ever use Greenify or any task killer in the future (with or without root) because of this stock feature.
I'd thought I'd share <3
Thanks for the info. Just curious, but does it keep apps like gmail from notifying of new content when you're not in gmail?
LeftyGR said:
Thanks for the info. Just curious, but does it keep apps like gmail from notifying of new content when you're not in gmail?
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It does not, due to sync being on.
IamFlynn said:
So I'm currently back on Stock ZV6 waiting patiently for the Lollipop update (will return to root once lollipop is rooted) because I want lollipop as soon as it's released OTA.
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You do realize that it will likely be a very long time, if ever, before a root exploit for Lollipop on the G3 is found. Right now it seems to be impossible to root Lollipop on a phone with a locked bootloader. If you really want rooted stock lollipop, the best (and maybe only) approach is probably to use Flashtool to revert to ZV4, root, and wait for a pre-rooted lollipop ROM to come along.
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You do realize that it will likely be a very long time, if ever, before a root exploit for Lollipop on the G3 is found. Right now it seems to be impossible to root Lollipop on a phone with a locked bootloader. If you really want rooted stock lollipop, the best (and maybe only) approach is probably to use Flashtool to revert to ZV4, root, and wait for a pre-rooted lollipop ROM to come along.
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I do realize that, heehee. I don't mind waiting. My mindset is to just see how I like the lollipop update asap (once it comes ota) and if I like or don't like, i'll root back to zv6 or aosp (in hopes of better functionability with lollipop radio, etc.)
thanks though!
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I do realize that, heehee. I don't mind waiting. My mindset is to just see how I like the lollipop update asap (once it comes ota) and if I like or don't like, i'll root back to zv6 or aosp (in hopes of better functionability with lollipop radio, etc.)
thanks though!
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But what if the restore tool doesn't work like that on the new 5.0 OTA? What if it won't let you downgrade to ZV4 in order to root and bump? The other thing is OTAs are usually captured and posted here in the forums for flashing pretty quickly after they are released so I highly doubt you'd be waiting for anything longer than a few days for it to get posted. There's a strong possibility that we may not see root on the stock 5.0 because of the way lollipop changes things (not having an unlocked bootloader is the main issue here). I have a friend with a G3 on AT&T and I've been telling him this same thing: It's a huge risk waiting if you are at some point in the near future going to want to use custom roms, especially when LG is going to make it neigh impossible after this next OTA. If you have little desire to flash custom roms or have root permissions, no hurry lol. AOSP is sooooooo smooth on this phone and I would never want anybody to miss out on the opportunity to try it because LG wants to crack down on the exploits.
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But what if the restore tool doesn't work like that on the new 5.0 OTA? What if it won't let you downgrade to ZV4 in order to root and bump? The other thing is OTAs are usually captured and posted here in the forums for flashing pretty quickly after they are released so I highly doubt you'd be waiting for anything longer than a few days for it to get posted. There's a strong possibility that we may not see root on the stock 5.0 because of the way lollipop changes things (not having an unlocked bootloader is the main issue here). I have a friend with a G3 on AT&T and I've been telling him this same thing: It's a huge risk waiting if you are at some point in the near future going to want to use custom roms, especially when LG is going to make it neigh impossible after this next OTA. If you have little desire to flash custom roms or have root permissions, no hurry lol. AOSP is sooooooo smooth on this phone and I would never want anybody to miss out on the opportunity to try it because LG wants to crack down on the exploits.
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Yeah thanks man. As we speak, I am flashing back to stock zv4 and will root back to stock rooted zv6. I just hate to do it when we could get the update any day from now.
Thanks though!
IamFlynn said:
Yeah thanks man. As we speak, I am flashing back to stock zv4 and will root back to stock rooted zv6. I just hate to do it when we could get the update any day from now.
Thanks though!
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I would recommend using BarRin unless you intend on using the included LG Health features and stuff (BarRin keeps the remote, camera, and other essential pieces, only removing the health stuff and other unnecessary nonsense... I believe there's a means to install these back into the ROM in the BarRin forum but it's been a while since I've been there). Yeah, I totally get what you mean. It's a tad inconvenient, I'll admit it, but nothing sucks work than being stuck on stock and not being able to modify it when desired. And like I said, I'm sure once it's out in the wild we'll get it posted on the forums within the span of a few days. No thanks needed; just looking to be helpful!
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I do realize that, heehee. I don't mind waiting. My mindset is to just see how I like the lollipop update asap (once it comes ota) and if I like or don't like, i'll root back to zv6 or aosp (in hopes of better functionability with lollipop radio, etc.)
thanks though![/Qhundred
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But what if the restore tool doesn't work like that on the new 5.0 OTA? What if it won't let you downgrade to ZV4 in order to root and bump? The other thing is OTAs are usually captured and posted here in the forums for flashing pretty quickly after they are released so I highly doubt you'd be waiting for anything longer than a few days for it to get posted. There's a strong possibility that we may not see root on the stock 5.0 because of the way lollipop changes things (not having an unlocked bootloader is the main issue here). I have a friend with a G3 on AT&T and I've been telling him this same thing: It's a huge risk waiting if you are at some point in the near future going to want to use custom roms, especially when LG is going to make it neigh impossible after this next OTA. If you have little desire to flash custom roms or have root permissions, no hurry lol. AOSP is sooooooo smooth on this phone and I would never want anybody to miss out on the opportunity to try it because LG wants to crack down on the exploits.
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Just to reiterate a bit on what meyerweb and outofluck already said, I just wanna help clarify, if you decide you don't like the LP OTA, there is about a hundred to one chance that with the LP OTA you will NOT be able to downgrade to zv4 to get root back. Anti rollback is almost always included in OTAs. And as meyerweb said, there is no root far an OTA LP yet. And as was already said, if you keep root and custom recovery, the devs here will have the OTA ready in zip file and probably rooted in less than 2 days. You don't like the LG LP, then you can roll back. But if you take official LP OTA I almost guarantee you will not be rolling back, and will no longer have options as to which OS you want to use.
You'll get it here just as fast, AND you'll have ability to roll back (most likely).
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fwiw, the current software in testing is version ZV8 and still shows android 4.4.2
http://device.sprintpcs.com/LG/LS990-SPRINT/latest
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fwiw, the current software in testing is version ZV8 and still shows android 4.4.2
http://device.sprintpcs.com/LG/LS990-SPRINT/latest
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Thanks!