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Ok I hope I've finally found the right forum. I was posting in modmymobile and not getting the help I needed. Finally a friend of mine told me about this forum and told me anyone who knew anything about Android posted here. As you can imagine I was on modmymobile because I was a frequent user of modmyi. I am an iPhone guy. An iPhone guy that is DESPERATELY trying to make the jump to Android.
I have my gripes with this phone versus my iPhone 4; for example the iPhone screen makes the Atrix look like a gameboy in my opinion (most notably at off angle viewing) and the build quality is no where near the same. BUT I can already see after 1 day of use why Android is superior. The thing is endless in customization, and for the most part the OS is more functional on every level.
With that said, PLEASE HELP. This fricken phone is supposed to be the fastest thing on the planet and it chugs a long like a snail. For example: If I were to load up a webpage with many pictures, such as phonescoop, and touch the middle of the screen and gently move it in circles, it stutters the entire time. Anytime I am zooming and or scrolling around a page I am constantly seeing stutter. Safari does not do this. I figured it was a browser problem so I tried Opera and Dolphin HD as well. While Dolphin was a bit better, it still does not compare to Safari. Not only that, when I'm scrolling through pictures I've taken its the same thing. Even the settings menu seems to chug!
My only hope is that the bloatware and Moto Blur is what is causing this stutter, so I desperately need help on how to remove any and everything from the phone that is not necessary. Not to mention Moto Blur looks disgusting. Please point me to a tutorial where I can learn how to root (make sure it will allow unroot please) and then please guide me on how to get all this crap off the phone. I think moto Blur is called a "Launcher"? Can you also reccomend the speediest and nicest looking launcher to go with as well.
I really really really want to replace my iPhone with this phone, but if it doesn't make sense I can not make the switch. I am already going to have to deal with the sub-par (in my opinion) screen, but I just can not deal with a laggy phone. What scares me the most is that I had my buddy come over last night that has an Inspire rooted and running at 1300mhz and his browser stutterd just the same. Please don't tell me this is an Android thing, I don't want something so trivial to ruin this for me. I really want to convert. For the record I chose the Atrix not only because of the speed, but because of the webtop and HD dock as well.
Thank you in advance and I hope I can get educated here.
Dolphin browser runs that site very well for me, no stutter as you say.
For a launcher, I'm using Go launcher, and also like ADW, and launcher pro.
Haplodroid said:
Dolphin browser runs that site very well for me, no stutter as you say.
For a launcher, I'm using Go launcher, and also like ADW, and launcher pro.
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Did you remove blur and replace it with that launcher? In doing that does it remove the bloatware and free up system resources? Id like to make the phone as fast as possible
Err...use the built-in task manager to kill apps that are either taking up CPU (though you're not using them) or a lot of RAM or both. Uninstall stuff you don't need.
Also note that this is not an iPhone, so quitting an app in a normal way (using back button / quit icon if available) is a lot better performance-wise than pressing the home button.
In your browser, close windows you do not need. Really. And switch on "on-demand" flash (it's in the browser options somewhere) so that it only loads flash elements when you click on them.
You could also try Firefox as a browser, it comes with its own engine. All other browsers in Android (afaik) use the built-in webkit engine, so are basically the same thing "under the hood".
Hope that helps. The phone is a beast, but that does not mean that you cannot slow it down
I think its moto's ui that is causing all the problem. Motoblur indeed is disgusting. My android is a mere 1 ghz phone but it does not stutter at all. Atrix is indeed a slow phone not utilizing its dual cores. Ive used my brother's optimus 2x which has the same processor as the atrix and it blew me away with its speed.
when I removed Motoblur and added Miren it got fast
I use Go Ex as a launcher although Gingerbread or Launcher Pro is equally fast. Motoblur is the biggest culprit when it comes to slowing the Atrix down. Miren loads quickly as a browser. I also got rid of apps I do not use and installed Swype beta as well as the Gingerbread keyboard form the market. Additionally I am using three screens and a simple, static wallpaper. I have 15 apps on the dock and use gestures for the dialer and to check the battery. I'm rooted and use setCPU. Functionality is great now. I hope they release the Galaxy S II soon. I can't find much else to do with the Atrix.
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I use Go Ex as a launcher although Gingerbread or Launcher Pro is equally fast. Motoblur is the biggest culprit when it comes to slowing the Atrix down. Miren loads quickly as a browser. I also got rid of apps I do not use and installed Swype beta as well as the Gingerbread keyboard form the market. Additionally I am using three screens and a simple, static wallpaper. I have 15 apps on the dock and use gestures for the dialer and to check the battery. I'm rooted and use setCPU. Functionality is great now. I hope they release the Galaxy S II soon. I can't find much else to do with the Atrix.
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^^ this^^............
Does using a launcher like LauncherPro replace MotoBlur or does it just cover it up and I have to use TitaniumBackup to freeze MotoBlur behind LauncherPro?
DON'T download a launcher, it takes up ram and in overall will suck up ur memory.
What you want to do is just install Adeo and get ur phone deoxed, also remove bloatware, and you're phone will be FAST.
I haven't installed any launchers because they slow, i've tested it with LP and ADW and they don't co-operate too well with Atrix....i'm not sure but it might have something to do with the dual core not running right on the launchers.
I've had my phone constantly on for about 2 weeks now and it's still as fast as when i first booted it up. Also, knowing what ur running will help you understand what is sucking up performance if maybe you're running widgets that refresh every 15 min, it will hog ram.
Motoblur is a pretty good launcher...it just needs to be set up properly.
launcher pro scrolls much smoother than motoblur, and has that little spring effect the iphone does when you scroll between pages, it's excellent.Also, browsing as I've seen has been pretty hit, or miss, but on the xoom, which has the same guts as the atrix, website scrolling is much better. The only difference between the xoom and the atrix is froyo vs honeycomb, so that leads me to think this is a software bound problem.
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launcher pro scrolls much smoother than motoblur, and has that little spring effect the iphone does when you scroll between pages, it's excellent.Also, browsing as I've seen has been pretty hit, or miss, but on the xoom, which has the same guts as the atrix, website scrolling is much better. The only difference between the xoom and the atrix is froyo vs honeycomb, so that leads me to think this is a software bound problem.
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well froyo is not designed for dual core...honeycomb is designed for multiple core usage...if you didn't know the motorola xoom was Google's developer tab for designing honeycomb.
This has to do with the way the android browser renders pages. The Safari browser is GPU accelerated thus, is smooth as silk. The android browser is not (unless you have a Galaxy S I9000 international version). So no matter what you do, the android browser will NEVER be as smooth as Safari until they give it GPU acceleration like the Galaxy. There's only one way to currently have a smooth browsing experience, and that is Opera Mobile 11 beta. However, I tried it on an Atrix and it doesn't seem to work, so I guess you're out of luck there. Again, this doesn't particularly have to do with the Atrix as ALL android phones using the android browser aren't GPU accelerated except for the I9000.
It's something a lot of android users even on this forum will not admit: the android browser is laggy. Sure, it may be quick to them, but if you always have an iPhone next to it to compare to Safari, it'll always lose. Except for playing flash, where it always wins. =)
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For example: If I were to load up a webpage with many pictures, such as phonescoop, and touch the middle of the screen and gently move it in circles, it stutters the entire time. Anytime I am zooming and or scrolling around a page I am constantly seeing stutter. Safari does not do this.
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Safari is a very good browser...so its gona be tough. Root your Atrix through "aroot" and "freeze" your blur apps not remove them.
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use ginger blur and miren browser
so much better
I told you the guys here will take care of you Sean.
Ok heres an update.
So I found out that the firefox browser is by far the fastest browser with almost no lag whatsoever. I found this out before I modded the phone at all. I then rooted the phone and did the adeo modified rom on the phone and installed launcher pro. I also took off my live wallpaper. The only thing I haven't does is freeze all the bloatware. I'm kind of concerned that even though I'm using launcher pro, moto blur is still there and making the phone run slow.
Either way, the phone still chugs like a razr. For example, I took a random picture of my room. I then went into the "Gallery" app and looked at the picture. I zoomed in on it a bit and then dragged the picture around to scroll around and look at it; it chugged along like an NES game!!! It does the same thing while zooming in and out. What is going on!?
If I freeze the bloatware including moto blur, WILL my problem be fixed? I'm desperate.
I've found a thread that shows how to freeze the bloatware. I'll freeze everything including blur while I wait for you guys to respond. If I can't get this thing running up to par by the end of the week I'll need to return it. Which SUCKS because the benchmarks show that this is the fastest phone ever made (in stock form).
And really guys, what are the chances that the phone is only using 1 core because of 2.2? What are the chances that 2.3 will make this thing fly and eliminate the lag I am seeing?
You have to remember I am coming from an iPhone 4, which while not faster at all, SEEMS much faster because everything is so smooth. It seems stupid but I need the UI to be fluid, I won't be able to look past it. Thanks again.
**Are you guys with the super modded, OC phones on the newest versions of Android experiencing UI lag like I've mentioned above?**
More updates haha. Went to the market and downloaded "bloat freezer" and found that i cant use it because my device is not rooted. Looks like i rooted it and then when i installed the modded rom it erased my root or something. And since i dont have my usb cable here at work ill have to wait until i get home and re-root and then use bloat freezer.
Which rom did u install.....gingerblur? If so, it should have rooted it for u. Otherwise do the aroot process again. Then download titanium backup and freeze your bloateare through there.
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Which rom did u install.....gingerblur? If so, it should have rooted it for u. Otherwise do the aroot process again. Then download titanium backup and freeze your bloateare through there.
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Adeo v0.2 is what i have, is gingerblur faster? When i get home ill re-root and start freezing
On August 5, 2011 Samsung put out the update for the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 for the TouchWiz update. I really thought it would make the tablet better but instead I absolutely hate it. It made the very clean black interface into a grey child looking operating system. Although the system seems to run a little better now I just really hate the grey look to it. I loved how the bar at the bottom would go away when I wanted to watch a movie on it. Now I am stuck with it up all the time. Not to mention all the extra apps it loaded on that I don't want. Plus all of the weird bold fonts that are used on it now.
I have called Samsung support but they insist I am now stuck with it. I asked them if a factory reset would work and they said no......really? But I HATE it!
I have read some forums saying I could root my tablet back to the stock Honeycomb but if I do that can I reverse the root and get updates from samsung again? If and when they ever clean up this stupid TouchWiz. Granted some people might like it but I am really hating it.
Please I am begging the Experts out there for answers.
im looking for the same thing, it did make the system feel a bit smoother and fater, but I hate how the UI looks now
root, install CWM, download and install the 3.1 OTA update from here.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
I have another complaint against the TouchWiz update. Now ES File Explorer will not show a usb drive when I plug it into my tablet. I have to use the stupid My Files app that comes with the TouchWiz update
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root, install CWM, download and install the 3.1 OTA update from here.
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Is there a forum will some detailed instructions on how to load stock honeycomb 3.1 back on to the Tablet
My bottom bar fades off when i watch a video. I then see lil white dots for the points you can access the notifications, quick apps, and navigation buttons.
I hardly notice it. But then I am able to watch what I am watching and ignore whatever else.
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My bottom bar fades off when i watch a video. I then see lil white dots for the points you can access the notifications, quick apps, and navigation buttons.
I hardly notice it. But then I am able to watch what I am watching and ignore whatever else.
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Yes, after you said that I have noticed if I use the android media player it will fade out. But if I use an app like rock player it no longer fades out like it used to =(
(the android media player still won't play most files so I have to use rock player or spend the time reformatting them.)
Totally agree. Some functional improvements, but the UI looks dumbed down and ugly.
I like the task manager, but probably won't use the other quick launch apps, and they can't be changed. Also, the screenshot button doesn't belong on the screen at all times.
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Totally agree. Some functional improvements, but the UI looks dumbed down and ugly.
I like the task manager, but probably won't use the other quick launch apps, and they can't be changed. Also, the screenshot button doesn't belong on the screen at all times.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
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Yes, after you said that I have noticed if I use the android media player it will fade out. But if I use an app like rock player it no longer fades out like it used to =(
(the android media player still won't play most files so I have to use rock player or spend the time reformatting them.)
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I'm don't use rock player, but I do use diceplayer, and it plays almost all the formats flawlessly. Also, with the current update the dev have fixed the fade out issue while playing the video.
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why do you HAVE to use it?
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I have another complaint against the TouchWiz update. Now ES File Explorer will not show a usb drive when I plug it into my tablet. I have to use the stupid My Files app that comes with the TouchWiz update
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Althought it pops up, why do you have to use it?
I am using rootexplorere just fine on my usb drive.
Agh! Kill it! Kill it with fire!
Hated the Touchwiz update.... calendar didn't sync properly anymore and I found the ui to now feel like a toy, big text and all... I hated it enough that i fully reverted to 3.1 stock... unless a decent community supported rom comes out, I'll probably sell the tablet and switch to a different one.
Thanks everyone on this thread for pointing me in the right direction to revert.
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Hated the Touchwiz update.... calendar didn't sync properly anymore and I found the ui to now feel like a toy, big text and all... I hated it enough that i fully reverted to 3.1 stock... unless a decent community supported rom comes out, I'll probably sell the tablet and switch to a different one.
Thanks everyone on this thread for pointing me in the right direction to revert.
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I feel exactly the same way, and am a bit concerned to see all the custom ROMs adopting the TW update.
The TW Email app looks like Pagasus mail did in the late 90's.
I ended up reverting back to 3.1 but kind of miss the Videos application, nothing else.
Can you point me to the post that showed you how to remove the update?
Not impressed with the update at all. When the source is released for hc and\or ics this tablet will rock.
I'm going to be removing the update as well today and am going back to 3.1 stock. I can't stand the childish look of the system now and mine is dog slow. Typing is extremely painful as well due to the horrible lag.
I don't know. My Tab seems much slower after the update. I am going revert to stock and see what that feels like again.
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Is there a forum will some detailed instructions on how to load stock honeycomb 3.1 back on to the Tablet
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You have a link on post no. 4, I don't think there is a more clearer tutorial on this planet.
I've heard a lot of good things about chrome so I've been considering making the switch over to it. I'm not rooted or romed so is there anyway to disable the stock browser and get rid of it all together and just use chrome or would that require rooting. Fill me in what's some of the periods and cons of chrome also
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you might be able to disable and or hide from the app list, but cant remove if you are stock. also the chrome browser is good, i like sharing my bookmarks. note that on stock you can share the same bookmarks, but its not as smooth. Also chrome doesnt hide the adressbar, its always there and it takes up space. so for me thats one thing that makes me switch completely. Stock will save downloads to your SDcard if you tell it to, chrome wont. basically stock gives you more options like flash, animated GIFs. chrome handles google chrome sync a lot better. also tab management is better
It all depends on which variation of the stock browser you're using. It may be just as good or even better (in terms of performance).
Are there any extra features you're looking for?
In my honest opinion, Dolphi Browser > all other browsers for Android.
Favorite features:
Dolphin vs. Others
Slide RIGHT for Bookmarks vs having to click Menu>Bookmarks
A button automatically appears while scrolling up to take you to the top of page vs having to scroll up personally the whole time.
Some useful Add-ons vs barely any add-ons.
Fast as HELL!
Loading bar vs no loading bar (on Chrome)
Give it a shot.
Also has synching, but so do the other ones, so I can't bring that up.
Stock would be cool and all if it didn't crash on certain web pages with latest firmware, 2.13. There was a reason I hated stock browser and switched to chrome first day on this phone but I can't remember why.
Also have stock frozen, but u have to be rooted to do that.
Ya I'm not rooted so I am thinking of giving chrome a go but on its reviews in the play store it has a lot of bad reviews saying crashes a lot so Idk yet lol
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Ya I'm not rooted so I am thinking of giving chrome a go but on its reviews in the play store it has a lot of bad reviews saying crashes a lot so Idk yet lol
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Personally, I've never had chrome crash even once that I can remember. Stock crashes everytime I go to stubhub.com.
I know what it was that I didn't like about stock now. It wouldn't ever change from mobile to full site. There's a mod I did to always go to fullsite on both chrome and stock now though so it's kinda besides the point.
Just use dolphin browser its better than chrome
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Just made the jump from stock to chrome, and chrome flllllllllllyyyyyyyssssss its fast compared to stock
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anyome else have problems with the update from Att for samsung galaxy note sgh-i717 as far aa features working? Such as pop up note, the big one, multi view isn't working among others. Som Does eone please help!
I called att and Samsung' a few times today but tell me to give it a week or two, and I want to kniow if anyone else is experiencing this as well.
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As far as I know I heard those are not in the update ... I'm sure they will be implemented later
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I cant even download jelly bean via kies ive tried everything it seems.....sigh
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I cant even download jelly bean via kies ive tried everything it seems.....sigh
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I didn't even bother with Kies. I was rooted and was pretty sure that Kies would not work until returning to stock.
went into the development section and to the Odin stock JB thread. someone had posted video on youtube and I watched it once.
got all necessary downloads and went through step by step. it seemed as if it hung at blue and white att ball, but left it plugged into Odin until it fully booted. out of the blue "YATZEE".
always a good idea, go slow and follow directions to the tee.
I always get nervous in the service, but this was pretty easy.
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anyome else have problems with the update from Att for samsung galaxy note sgh-i717 as far aa features working? Such as pop up note, the big one, multi view isn't working among others. Som Does eone please help!
I called att and Samsung' a few times today but tell me to give it a week or two, and I want to kniow if anyone else is experiencing this as well.
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Pop-up note works for me, just hold down the S-Pen's button as you double tap the screen.
Despite what nearly every news outlet claims, multiview isn't in this release. Although according to Samsung's press release, the floating window support for videos and the browser made it in. I've gotten the floating video to work, but I can't figure out how to get the browser to float. I don't see an option for that anywhere.
The only other thing that isn't working for me is Samsung's stock image gallery. It crashes the phone, even after wiping EVERYTHING, and doing a re-flash. While I would have liked to at least test it, I just deleted it and I'm using QuickPic as a replacement.
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I'm running it but like most people have been saying about this update its kinda laggy
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Kinda a lot. I've deleted over 200 MB of bloat from /system and most things are pretty laggy. Where's Project Butter?! Other than the stability, it doesn't feel any faster or better than the existing AOSP JB releases to me. But strangely, some things like window animations and menus fading out are incredibly smooth. But as soon as I put my finger on the display, everything gets laggy.
But at least my GPS works properly. :| It didn't in any ICS ROM, including stock.
The new jellybean update from AT&T does not lag for me. People say it does but first, flash rom, factory reset, root, remove bloat, download setcpu, min 192 max 1.5. Does not lag one bit for me. :silly::silly:
Same experience as ^^^^. Remember friends, freeze a bloatware app, then use your phone for a while, and if there's no problems, delete.
Some apps you might be tempted to delete can bork your system. Proceed with care.
Sorry for my stupid question. Could you teal with apps did you freeze? I dont want stop something that might brick my phone
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I froze every at&t app and google stuff I don't use like search and place. Don't mess with email and messaging.
If you're going to experiment, do you know how to make a nandroid backup? Its your insurance policy.
And you won't ever brick doing this. The worst thing is your phone will give error messages and won't function.
Just restore your nandroid.
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I froze every at&t app and google stuff I don't use like search and place. Don't mess with email and messaging.
If you're going to experiment, do you know how to make a nandroid backup? Its your insurance policy.
And you won't ever brick doing this. The worst thing is your phone will give error messages and won't function.
Just restore your nandroid.
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thanks I will do the back up and start playing around with what I don't use
I flashed this update and the device is stuck on the AT&T logo and the 3 button combo for recovery doesn't work.. can someone help with this?.. how can I enable the 3 buttons recovery?
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I flashed this update and the device is stuck on the AT&T logo and the 3 button combo for recovery doesn't work.. can someone help with this?.. how can I enable the 3 buttons recovery?
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Do a Factory reset.
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Do a Factory reset.
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How can I do that? I can´t enter to recovery
The combos work...they are within the boatloaders if those were messed up your phone would be dead.
Yank the battery between trying the combos each time... if you can't get recovery to cooperate, try download mode and reflash.
Jellybean upgrade - or not??
Maybe I jumped the gun upgrading to stock Jellybean because I miss the following features
1) Three day calendar - maybe I messed something up but I don't see a way to get it back. Currently using weekly list view but its not the same. Also the "Today" widget only shows today the ICS one would show about 24 hours of items so usually would show what is going on tomorrow as well.
2) I am having S-pen issues. I have a collection of different Stylus pens and I have been using one from Samsung Electronics Slate PC because it had a nice size, shape, and an ERASER. The eraser no longer works in S-note. Also one of my favorite time wasters, Cubistry, the spen no longer registers (stock or Slate).
3) I'm getting old and fine print is getting harder to see. On the ICS Swipe keyboard, the long press characters were almost the same size as the regular characters. I'll have to look for another keyboard.
Full blown multi-veiw was also not included but I don't know if I would use it much.
We did get Google Now which I don't use that much & Polaris Office 4.0 that I use alot - the new office can edit text files (ICS could view them but not save text files).
Lol jumped the gun..
It's software if you don't like it just go back abs wait for custom Roms built on this firmware
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Pop-up note works for me, just hold down the S-Pen's button as you double tap the screen.
Despite what nearly every news outlet claims, multiview isn't in this release. Although according to Samsung's press release, the floating window support for videos and the browser made it in. I've gotten the floating video to work, but I can't figure out how to get the browser to float. I don't see an option for that anywhere.
The only other thing that isn't working for me is Samsung's stock image gallery. It crashes the phone, even after wiping EVERYTHING, and doing a re-flash. While I would have liked to at least test it, I just deleted it and I'm using QuickPic as a replacement.
Kinda a lot. I've deleted over 200 MB of bloat from /system and most things are pretty laggy. Where's Project Butter?! Other than the stability, it doesn't feel any faster or better than the existing AOSP JB releases to me. But strangely, some things like window animations and menus fading out are incredibly smooth. But as soon as I put my finger on the display, everything gets laggy.
But at least my GPS works properly. :| It didn't in any ICS ROM, including stock.
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How do you get floating video to work and the browser? I am not sure at all how to do anything?
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The combos work...they are within the boatloaders if those were messed up your phone would be dead.
Yank the battery between trying the combos each time... if you can't get recovery to cooperate, try download mode and reflash.
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This.
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Pop-up note works for me, just hold down the S-Pen's button as you double tap the screen.
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I tried that and got pop up note, which is pretty cool, but in my first few attempts, I got several screen captures, but I also got a list of apps across the bottom of my screen. I don't know how I got it or what it was and have been unable to duplicate it. Anyone have any ideas about what it was?
ADDED 1 AUG 2019: THIS WAS WRITTEN FOR THE WIFI-ONLY T720, *NOT* THE LTE-ENABLED T725. OBVIOUSLY BE AWARE OF ALL THE PHONE RELATED PACKAGES
For those with the S5e wanting to debloat your tablet without rooting I have some, hopefully, useful info.
See this post by @Catmobile for an excellent explanation of why devs have trouble keeping Samsung package disabler apps on Play Store. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80048718&postcount=42
I used the app Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) by policedeveloper available on Play Store here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elmklmsamsung.batteryaddon No longer available, and does not even work on my device anymore.
UPDATE 16 JUL 19: Above app is reportedly once again available on Play Store. HOWEVER, those who recently purchased it have to do so AGAIN! Please consider this if you decide to purchase.
For those with better skills and a computer, using adb's 'pm uninstall -k --user 0 <package name>' is an option, too. You can use the 'disable lists' to facilitate this.
Find here an example by @Catmobile of how to use ADB shell https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80054354&postcount=44
IMPORTANT: You won't really know the true effects of your disabling til you restart the tablet! On the other hand, it seems that undisabling (re-enabling?) takes effect immediately.
I did a web search and found an .xml file that had packages disabled on a Galaxy S10 or S8. Unfortunately I don't remember from where I got the file but this and other files are available in my shared pCloud folder https://bit.ly/2VXRoLt
Updated link 26aug21 http://u.pc.cd/5pqctalK
You'll find below files, among others, there:
disabledpackages-Package Disabler Pro+ DEFAULT ALL BLOATWARE-46ofthem.xml
>>The default packages using 'Disable all Bloatware' option in Package Disabler Pro+
disabledpackages-S8orS10-125ofthem.xml
>>The file I found. When I used this the tablet UI slowed to a crawl. From my previous experimentation I suspected that disabling the phone apps was the culprit. I was right, and am currently using my tablet without any discernable issues using the xml file below. Obviously, examine the file before using it to see if it fits your needs. For instance, I don't use Bixby, so I disabled it.
[EDIT] File deleted.
disabledpackages-WORKINGFINE-SOMEphoneStuffReEnabled-119ofthem.xml
>>The file I exported from Package Disabler Pro+ after reenabling some packages.
[EDIT] Replaced by disabledpackages133-OK.xml
Below are the packages I reenabled in order to get the tab back to 'normal'. I'll continue with experimentation to see which one(s) are causing the slow-down, and report back here.
Code:
00001 <importExportSetting>
00002 <disabledPackages class="java.util.ArrayList">
00003 <string>com.android.carrierconfig</string>
00004 <string>com.android.carrierdefaultapp</string>
00005 <string>com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim</string>
00006 <string>com.android.phone</string>
00007 <string>com.android.providers.telephony</string>
00008 <string>com.samsung.android.dialer</string>
00009 <string>com.samsung.android.providers.contacts</string>
00010 <string>com.sec.phone</string>
00011 </disabledPackages>
00012 </importExportSetting>
Few More Packages Disabled
Here are some more. Haven't really messed with the phone stuff yet, but this addition brings total disabled packages to 126.
Code:
+00024 <string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.connectionsecurity</string>
+00025 <string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
+00076 <string>com.android.chrome</string>
+00101 <string>com.sec.android.soagent</string>
+00120 <string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.stamp.preload</string>
+00123 <string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch</string>
Figured Out What Caused Slow UI
With further testing I figured out that com.android.providers.telephony DIALER STORAGEis what was causing slowness. Who'd a thunk it?
This is probably my last post in this thread, and present below what I currently have disabled while maintaining, for me, full functionality. In my case 'full funtionality' means no Bixby, Knox, Phone stuff, Telemetry (as far as I can using this method), most Samsung bloat as well as a few other things. I'll continue experimenting, though.
My choices might not meet everyone's needs, but they work for me. Use the code below as a starting point, and, Happy Deloating!
Code:
<importExportSetting>
<disabledPackages class="java.util.ArrayList">
<string>android.autoinstalls.config.samsung</string>
<string>com.android.bookmarkprovider</string>
<string>com.android.calllogbackup</string>
<string>com.android.carrierconfig</string>
<string>com.android.carrierdefaultapp</string>
<string>com.android.chrome</string>
<string>com.android.cts.ctsshim</string>
<string>com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.basic</string>
<string>com.android.dreams.phototable</string>
<string>com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle</string>
<string>com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle</string>
<string>com.android.managedprovisioning</string>
<string>com.android.phone</string>
<string>com.android.printspooler</string>
<string>com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks</string>
<string>com.android.server.telecom</string>
<string>com.android.sharedstoragebackup</string>
<string>com.android.simappdialog</string>
<string>com.android.stk</string>
<string>com.android.wallpaper.livepicker</string>
<string>com.android.wallpapercropper</string>
<string>com.audible.application</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.sample.acquirechannels</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.server</string>
<string>com.dsi.ant.service.socket</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.maps</string>
<string>com.google.android.apps.turbo</string>
<string>com.google.android.gm</string>
<string>com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox</string>
<string>com.google.android.setupwizard</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts</string>
<string>com.google.android.tts</string>
<string>com.google.android.youtube</string>
<string>com.knox.vpn.proxyhandler</string>
<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>com.monotype.android.font.foundation</string>
<string>com.osp.app.signin</string>
<string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.connectionsecurity</string>
<string>com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.telemetry</string>
<string>com.samsung.aasaservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.advp.imssettings</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facear.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.stamp.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.galaxyfinder</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.reminder</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.social</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.spage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.authfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bbc.bbcagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bio.face.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.calendar</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.clipboarduiservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.contacts</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.dialer</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.dqagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.easysetup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.emojiupdater</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fmm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gamehome</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gametools</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gos</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.homemode</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.incallui</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.keyguardwallpaperupdator</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.analytics.uploader</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containeragent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containercore</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.knox.containerdesktop</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.location</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.lool</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mdecservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mdm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.messaging</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mobileservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.provider.stickerprovider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpass</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.scloud</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.securitylogagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.smartface</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.stickercenter</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.tadownloader</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.video</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.visionintelligence</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.wellbeing</string>
<string>com.samsung.app.newtrim</string>
<string>com.samsung.clipboardsaveservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.cmh</string>
<string>com.samsung.ims.smk</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.keychain</string>
<string>com.samsung.knox.securefolder</string>
<string>com.samsung.mlp</string>
<string>com.samsung.oh</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.samsung.sec.android.application.csc</string>
<string>com.samsung.SMT</string>
<string>com.samsung.storyservice</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.bixby2</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch.withoutcornerround</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.hidenotch</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.billing</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.SecSetupWizard</string>
<string>com.sec.android.daemonapp</string>
<string>com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.gear360editor</string>
<string>com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching</string>
<string>com.sec.android.soagent</string>
<string>com.sec.android.splitsound</string>
<string>com.sec.android.uibcvirtualsoftkey</string>
<string>com.sec.android.widgetapp.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.bcservice</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.knox.cloudmdm.smdms</string>
<string>com.sec.enterprise.mdm.services.simpin</string>
<string>com.sec.factory</string>
<string>com.sec.phone</string>
<string>com.sec.spp.push</string>
<string>com.wssyncmldm</string>
<string>flipboard.boxer.app</string>
</disabledPackages>
</importExportSetting>
Did all of this work result in anything positive? Less memory use? Snappier UI? Less dandruff?
yRdcMIbiR6 said:
Did all of this work result in anything positive? Less memory use? Snappier UI? Less dandruff?
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Whiter teeth ? and better sleep ? Actually, for me it's all about not letting someone else dictate what my tablet does, and what information is 'shared' (stolen, is how I view it). For instance, this thing has a telemetry function. I don't care what kind of telemetry it is, I din't want it. Also, this thing is not a phone and I don't use it for phone-like activities, so I don't want it to try to act like a phone, with all the activity in the background. I could go on and on, but...
To answer your question, no noticeable increase in performance. I do, however, enjoy the benefits I mentioned in the first sentence—except for the 'whiter teeth' thing.
I will root this tablet and then have full control—lots and lots of deleting files and folders. I can hardly wait!
I just got this tablet today, my last one was a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 before switching to a Surface Pro.
I missed Android multitasking and the apps which I'm pleased to have back but what's not nice is the amount of clutter that still exists in Samsung's ROMs.
I hope we can get AOSP or Lineage ported to this as One UI sucks.
The hardware is beast though. I'm going to give that app you suggested a try. Thanks.
flyboyovyick said:
I'm going to give that app you suggested a try. Thanks.
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I agree. This my my first large-screen tablet—8.4" before—and I love it! The app works quite well. It is what allowed me to experiment. When I root, even if I don't install a custom ROM—I have no problem with the OneUI, uh, UI—I'll know what to start with, uninstall-wise.
One thing I don't like is inability to use Substratum—at least for now. If you find a way to theme this tablet please let us know.
I did end up caving and buying that package disabler, used your latest script and re-enabled some apps.
Found that now the icons are missing from the notifications drop down which is fantastic! It was cluttered.
Couple of things to note:
Dolby Atmos has gone, I used this when watching Netflix as it did make a difference.
One UI Home app, also known as com.sec.android.app.launcher, when disabled will give you the stock Android multitasking which is fantastic! I use Evie launcher so I would RECOMMEND you have a different launcher installed before doing this.
I've done a quick search for the Atmos app but no luck so far, if you have any ideas?
Thanks!
flyboyovyick said:
I did end up caving and buying that package disabler, used your latest script and re-enabled some apps.
Found that now the icons are missing from the notifications drop down which is fantastic! It was cluttered.
Couple of things to note:
Dolby Atmos has gone, I used this when watching Netflix as it did make a difference.
One UI Home app, also known as com.sec.android.app.launcher, when disabled will give you the stock Android multitasking which is fantastic! I use Evie launcher so I would RECOMMEND you have a different launcher installed before doing this.
I've done a quick search for the Atmos app but no luck so far, if you have any ideas?
Thanks!
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Good to hear someone is benefiting from this!
I hadn't done anything where the audio was of concern, so I didn't notice. I just installed a few games though, RealRacing 3 being one of them, so now I care! No ideas, so I'll have to do some researching.
Thanks for the OneUI info. I use Nova Prime and frequently try out other ones, 'hyperion' being the latest, even though it force closes on opening—it bugs me that I can't easily get a proper log. Love Evie for my phone.
BTW, the link at https://bit.ly/2VXRoLt has my disabledpackages133-OK.xml file, which has all the changes in one file.
[EDIT] Reenabled OneUI cuz I like the way recents are shown.
TiTiB said:
Good to hear someone is benefiting from this!
I hadn't done anything where the audio was of concern, so I didn't notice. I just installed a few games though, RealRacing 3 being one of them, so now I care! No ideas, so I'll have to do some researching.
Thanks for the OneUI info. I use Nova Prime and frequently try out other ones, 'hyperion' being the latest, even though it force closes on opening—it bugs me that I can't easily get a proper log. Love Evie for my phone.
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Yes thank you for sharing it.
Atmos is missing from the notification quick toggles and in the Settings under Sound > Advanced Settings. Will have to look through the disabled apps. Have you since uninstalled the apps completely?
Just need to get that working now. Had an issue with Evie when rotating to portrait, it would leave half the screen white for some reason so now I have moved to Nova Launcher which works flawlessly.
My tablet does feel quicker now, I have all the animations turned off in Developer Options. Especially on boot it's not lagging, ready to go sooner. I've even got the 6GB/128GB version.
flyboyovyick said:
Yes thank you for sharing it.
Atmos is missing from the notification quick toggles and in the Settings under Sound > Advanced Settings. Will have to look through the disabled apps. Have you since uninstalled the apps completely?
Just need to get that working now. Had an issue with Evie when rotating to portrait, it would leave half the screen white for some reason so now I have moved to Nova Launcher which works flawlessly.
My tablet does feel quicker now, I have all the animations turned off in Developer Options. Especially on boot it's not lagging, ready to go sooner. I've even got the 6GB/128GB version.
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Haven't uninstalled anything yet.
Just checked, and Atmos is there for me—able to change settings for it, too.
Here's something you could try—do a file compare between what you have disabled, and my '133-ok' list, which is still working fime for me. I've been using DiffTool the File Compare Tool from Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.difftool to compare what I had newly disabled with what I had previously disabled. The interface and usage is a bit clunky (the dev has stated something to the effect of "it's a tool, not a beauty pageant"). HINTS: Use the compare TEXT files, then save the results using the ? icon to be able to use a text editor to see the results.
Please let us know what you find.
[EDIT] I f you find a better way to compare files on Android I'd sure like to know about it.
@TiTiB
Thank you for this valuable contribution. For those looking for root, this is the better route. You'll free up CPU and RAM whilst removing applications deemed unnecessary.
Been a while since I've been able to have a look but I've managed to find it using DiffTool
The package is com.sec.android.app.soundalive, now in Settings > Sound > Advanced Sound Settings > Sound Quality and Effects. Then in there you have Atmos. It's now working again!
Thanks so much for all the info!
Am considering about getting a s5e but the demo unit in my local retailers are kinda sluggish. Not sure if that is because of the bloatware or the demo mode.
May I know if this way of disabling bloatware will void my warranty? How much snappier will the device become after the cpu and ram are being freed up?
Thanks!
monsthamo said:
Thanks so much for all the info!
Am considering about getting a s5e but the demo unit in my local retailers are kinda sluggish. Not sure if that is because of the bloatware or the demo mode.
May I know if this way of disabling bloatware will void my warranty? How much snappier will the device become after the cpu and ram are being freed up?
Thanks!
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No issues with warranty. All you are doing is disabling/freezing apps—something that can be done via Android's normal Settings for a lot of apps. What you'll be able to do via these apps or adb is disable/freeze apps that you wouldn't normally be able to.
I'm not really sure if disabling/freezing has improved performance because this tablet's response to everything I've thrown at it is so brisk! Admittedly,I'm not a big-time gamer—e.g. no Fortnite. My guess is that the demo unit was not set up properly/at all and was also subject to a 'demo mode effect', if there is such a thing. ?
In a nutshell, I think this thing is plenty quick! am *extremely happy with it, and I would recommend it. I don't know what sort of return policy you might be dealing with, but once you get it home it ain't goin' nowhere.
Thanks very much for the info! Let me give a try~
Thanks for sharing, I can confirm that this made the tablet a lot more responsive
I couldn't find the app in the app store...is it still around?
808phoneaddict said:
I couldn't find the app in the app store...is it still around?
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It's "Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung)". Did a search and it came up first on the list. ?
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It's "Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung)". Did a search and it came up first on the list.
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I cannot find any app called "package disabler pro+(Samsung)" ..... so, I think they deleted from playstore....