Hi
well I have no experience with Custom-ROMs, so can someonePlease explain to me
where exactlythe difference between Official ROMs and Unofficial ROMs is ?
What would you recommend in terms of stability
thanks
This is what I believe it means, using CyanogenMod as an example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod).
AFAIK the CyanogenMod team develop their custom rom for a generic platform. They then select a number of devices and customize the generic version so it can be applied and used on these selected devices.
An official CyanogenMod ROM is when the CyanogenMod team have selected the device and done the extra work for the custom ROM to work on that device themselves.
Unofficial means that the extra work to tailor the custom CyanogenMod ROM for the device is done by other developers, who use the generic base which CyanogenMod provide.
To my understanding its more like sub-beta, directed mainly for flash freaks (count me in).
Regarding stability some official ROMs are far from stable, while some unofficial are ages in front.
Thanks guys for the great explanation....appreciate it...
well , During my search for a good ROM software I have often read that the 2 Roms was s always recommended
1. Temasek
2. LiquidSmooth
i mean are both roms really good and stable on s3?
or would you recommend something else
thanks
I would recommend CM12.1 as a daily driver. Is clean and fast. It works way better than stock Samsung ROMs and is very stable thanks to @JustArchi. It also drain less battery and has a good power save feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-i9300-t3254215
My current setup is this:
Recovery: TWRP
ROM: CM12.1
Kernel: Boeffla
And never been happier with my i9300
Hi
I have the latest version temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM12.1 v18.0 flashed + PA-GOOGLE APPS Plus GOOGLE STOCK PACKAGE
and I must say it really makes a great impression, everything seems stable so far.....
well the only thing that bothers me is the (ugly white background in Android Lollipop)but its just a matter of taste :silly:
Plus the newer builds of CM12.1 have OTA updater working.
How would you estimate the stability and performance of CM12.1 ROM's compared to official CM11 nightlies?
Flashed official CM11 once. Within 30 minutes of testing a had plenty of crashes and several Cannot connect to camera.
Lot of people here say that there is no need to move to Lolipop, because Kitkat is far more stable.. However I wouldn't agree.
I'm a serious and long term tester of custom ROMs for various devices, but more recently the 1st gen (Condor) and 2nd gen (Surnia) moto e.
I'm looking for your experiences, comments, tips and tricks of stock firmware (lollipop and marshmallow) verses the many custom ROMs available for the 2nd gen moto e.
Tell me what you find the best ROM.
What's the most stable? Has the best battery life?
What ROM can you make lots of modifications without affecting performance?
What's the worst ROMs? What ROMs have the most bugs?
This is not a post asking for your opinions so I can go out to find the best ROM, personally I have found what I consider the best ROM/set up/configuration for my E2 and am looking to see if other users agree with me.
Many thanks
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I personally fell in love with the Stock ROM on my XT1521 it has the best performance and is extremely stable. Some may have had issues because they flashed the stock ROM on some other device rather than the device this ROM was made for. Though it has been reported that the UK version has started to receive the 6.0 update. I request everybody to downgrade to the 5.0.2 stock ROM and update to 6.0 through the OTA update.
Again this is my experience and don't bash me for this.
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ayush rao said:
I personally fell in love with the Stock ROM on my XT1521 it has the best performance and is extremely stable. Some may have had issues because they flashed the stock ROM on some other device rather than the device this ROM was made for. Though it has been reported that the UK version has started to receive the 6.0 update. I request everybody to downgrade to the 5.0.2 stock ROM and update to 6.0 through the OTA update.
Again this is my experience and don't bash me for this.
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I won't bash you, your reply is exactly the reply I wanted.
Personally, I'm having better luck right now with the stock rom, but my personal preference is the last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
3 day battery life, very fast and the most stable my moto e has ever been.
Less luck with my 1st gen moto e, currently running CM13, it's laggy and very unstable
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ivan39 said:
I won't bash you, your reply is exactly the reply I wanted.
Personally, I'm having better luck right now with the stock rom, but my personal preference is the last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
3 day battery life, very fast and the most stable my moto e has ever been.
Less luck with my 1st gen moto e, currently running CM13, it's laggy and very unstable
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Did u get the official 6.0 update???
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Did u get the official 6.0 update???
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No, I just flashed it from the firmware thread here, only after cm13 played hell with me!
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ivan39 said:
No, I just flashed it from the firmware thread here, only after cm13 played hell with me!
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Just try and flash the 5.0.2 Stock ROM for ur model no. and see if u received the 6.0 update cause someone posted that they received it. Also in the past when I tried the stock ROM designed for another model I didn't get great performance but when I flashed the stock ROM designed for my model no. I got the desired performance.
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ayush rao said:
Just try and flash the 5.0.2 Stock ROM for ur model no. and see if u received the 6.0 update cause someone posted that they received it. Also in the past when I tried the stock ROM designed for another model I didn't get great performance but when I flashed the stock ROM designed for my model no. I got the desired performance.
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I apologise for not explaining this fully, meaning you made a completely unnecessary and incorrect reply (only because I gave you incomplete information)
So let me explain fully.
My moto e had issues around the 05/04 build of CM13.
After an upgrade from 04/04 to 05/04 via "dirty" flash (only wiping dalvik and cache) the moto e "hung" and got stuck on the "splash" screen and would not boot.
Returning to twrp to wipe system/data/internal storage was futile, it still would not boot past the Motorola boot logo.
Several people suggested I return my moto e to stock, so I duly returned it to stock BY FLASHING THE EU RETAIL 5.0.2 FIRMWARE FOR XT1524-(the variant of moto e I have)
This was completely unsuccessful as although I returned to stock, I left the bootloader unlocked and re rooted and reflashed twrp as soon as I had successfully returned the device to stock.
After booting into 5.0.2 I checked everything was fully working but found the device to be very slow, extremely laggy and stuttery.
Further research suggested UK users who had manually flashed the 5.1.1 update (you must remember UK has NEVER been offered the 5.1.1 update, as Motorola announced in December 2015 UK was skipping 5.1.1 to go straight to 6.0) got the OTA update after successfully flashing said 5.1.1 EU firmware.
This was again unsuccessful, with the device not quite as slow and laggy as 5.0.2 but now was running a firmware it should NOT have ever received.
Concerned this was my issue and sceptical of the advice I had received about the 5.1.1 firmware, I flashed the EU retail 6.0 stock ROM
I found it
Slow
Battery intensive
Laggy and stuttery, there was no fluidity, the screen movements were at best "jerky"
Ringtone volume reduced to the point I missed incoming calls.
Random reboots.
One point I must make to you and anyone else reading this is to
NEVER FLASH FIRMWARE FOR ANOTHER DEVICE OR FLASH INCOMPATIBLE/FIRMWARE NOT DESIGNED FOR YOUR DEVICE.
That is a very big no no and should not be attempted for any reason.
For example, if I flashed firmware for an XT1521 on my XT1524, I would permanently brick my device.
Same if I flashed XT1527 or XT1523 firmware.
No one should be attempting to flash incompatible firmware.
And to someone who messaged me asking if he could flash a "no carrier" firmware from an XT1526 on to an XT1524 to make this a no carrier unlocked device is simply "NO!"
Flashing a no carrier firmware on a carrier locked device will brick it.
Flashing XT1526 firmware on an XT1524 will brick it.
There may not seem much difference between these variants of devices but I'm told they are quite different, that's why they are numbered in such a way to make them different to the continents for which they are designed for.
This is not my opinion, this is fact, openly found here on XDA and read many times after people have knowingly flashed the wrong firmware on the wrong device and suffered a permanent brick!
I'm pretty sure most of my problems came from flashing 5.0.2 and 5.1.1, and since I had upgraded to 6.0.1 running CM13, I simply made the problem worse but not downgrading modem/bootloader.
I hope this explains my situation fully, but I've found the last security update to CM12.1 (17/04) the most stable custom ROM available for Surnia although I am now back and happy finally with CM13.
Regards.
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Cm13 22/04 is very good, just as good as CM12.1 17/04 that I came from (clean install, not using any mods other than squid kernel)
Do not use open gapps with CM13, squid has posted various warnings over the past several days to avoid using them as they have broken cm13.
I'm using caf 6.0.1 rom, before I was using aosp 5.1.1 with squid kernel and imo those are the best roms. Sure they don't have any custom features but they don't have every day updates (like cm) too so everything is pretty much polished with decent package of gapps. Both roms are fully stable and basically bug free. I wouldn't change my caf for any other rom.
@ivan39 you're not right. I remember that when there was no 5.1 update in Europe you could easily flash us firmware on Xt1524 changing only one radio file. BTW bugs that you had on stock 6.0 are probably caused by bad flash/not clean flash or something. It's impossible that stock firmware causes random reboots.
Thanks for that, I did not know its possible to flash US firmware on XT1524, so I stand corrected and hanging head in shame.....
Really, thanks for the info, something else I've learned.
Ref 6.0 stock, I assumed a bad flash, reflashed 3 times over 3 days, made no difference.
Agree with everything you said and will definitely look at the roms you mentioned
have you made full wipe after flash?
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Yes.
Stock 6.0 wasn't for me.
Back on Cm13
ivan39 said:
I'm a serious and long term tester of custom ROMs for various devices, but more recently the 1st gen (Condor) and 2nd gen (Surnia) moto e.
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First of all, thanks for your contributions towards the device and the community, Moto E is an underdog but potent device which can really use a helping hand from enthusiasts like us
ivan39 said:
I'm looking for your experiences, comments, tips and tricks of stock firmware (lollipop and marshmallow) verses the many custom ROMs available for the 2nd gen moto e.
Tell me what you find the best ROM.
What's the most stable? Has the best battery life?
What ROM can you make lots of modifications without affecting performance?
What's the worst ROMs? What ROMs have the most bugs?
This is not a post asking for your opinions so I can go out to find the best ROM, personally I have found what I consider the best ROM/set up/configuration for my E2 and am looking to see if other users agree with me.
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Stock vs Custom ROMs (CM in my case)
My device originally came with Android 5.0, but by that time CM 12.1 (5.1 based) was already available. The jump from Stock 5.0 to CM 12.1 was NOT very exciting. There was an immediate performance drop at the cost of added features. I moved back and forth between Stock and CM just to realise that CM 12.1 RAM usage was way higher than Stock 5.0 RAM usage. I stuck to CM 12.1 due to the extra features and over time, learnet to live with the performance drop.
A few months back, I thought of giving Stock ROM another try, and by that time Stock 5.1 had arrived. Going back to Stock 5.1, to my surprise, I found that the snappiness of Stock 5.0 was gone. I realised that between 5.0 and 5.1, something fundamental changed at Stock ROM/Kernel level and now the Stock 5.1 RAM usage was equal to CM 12.1 RAM usage. That also explained my initial experience, where CM 12.1 RAM overhead was simply because of AOSP 5.1 changes, and not CM additions. At this point, it was only sensible to stick to CM 12.1 as performance drop from Stock 5.1 was minimal.
Recently I tried Stock 6.0, but IMHO it feels rushed, it exists only for the sake of existing. Moreover, I can not believe Motorola/Lenovo can be serious about the software of their lowest-end nearing-end-of-life phone. They had to release 6.0 only to avoid lawsuits for false update promises (made in advertising and on retail boxes).
A final point: I'd prefer CM over Stock any given day simply because of community involvement in development, testing and bug fixing. Being Open Source and hugely popular, CM bugs are reported and fixed much much faster than AOSP bugs. You might say that AOSP is also Open Source, but it's only one way. You can fork, but they don't accept changes back. Overall, I have HUGE trust in CM community than AOSP/OEMs which are only concerned about making more and more money.
Choosing between various Custom ROMs
Most Custom ROMs are developed only in following 2 ways:
AOSP/CAF based
CM based (which is itself AOSP/CAF based)
Type 1 ROMs simply can not match the community involvement and release frequency of CM. Most ROMs I've seen fade away after 1-2 months of updates/support while CM keeps going forever. I see added features only as extra bits that has to be maintained. Moreover, most of the extra features of Type 1 ROMs are already in CM, or available as Xposed modules, or available as root-supported apps. So these ROMs don't bring anything extra to table.
Type 2 ROMs also fail to match the release frequency and long time updates/support offered by CM. Moreover, the added features are also questionable for the same reasons as stated above.
A valid point for considering any custom ROM except CM would either be totally reskinned ROMs, or the ones which are based on other AOSP forks (MIUI etc.). Personally, I fail to see the point of reskinned ROMs. Once you start installing Play Store Apps, you'll quickly realise that Play Store Apps are based on Material (AOSP) UI guidelines. Hence, you'll end up with a system where user apps looks/behave completely different from System apps. That's too much of an eyesore for me.
Some say that ROM X is much faster that CM, but I'm yet to see such a ROM. Benchmarks aside, I've tried almost all ROMs available in our forums and their real world performance is more of the same. For a ROM X claiming to be faster than CM, I'd be very interested to see which code changes have resulted in such a gain and if so, why they haven't been added to CM already.
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So that's what I think. Let me know what do you guys think. Thanks for raising such a discussion
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ivan39 said:
last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
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https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=surnia only shows last 5 builds, where can I download this one? I'm still on 0324 build
gameSTICKER said:
First of all, thanks for your contributions towards the device and the community, Moto E is an underdog but potent device which can really use a helping hand from enthusiasts like us
Stock vs Custom ROMs (CM in my case)
My device originally came with Android 5.0, but by that time CM 12.1 (5.1 based) was already available. The jump from Stock 5.0 to CM 12.1 was NOT very exciting. There was an immediate performance drop at the cost of added features. I moved back and forth between Stock and CM just to realise that CM 12.1 RAM usage was way higher than Stock 5.0 RAM usage. I stuck to CM 12.1 due to the extra features and over time, learnet to live with the performance drop.
A few months back, I thought of giving Stock ROM another try, and by that time Stock 5.1 had arrived. Going back to Stock 5.1, to my surprise, I found that the snappiness of Stock 5.0 was gone. I realised that between 5.0 and 5.1, something fundamental changed at Stock ROM/Kernel level and now the Stock 5.1 RAM usage was equal to CM 12.1 RAM usage. That also explained my initial experience, where CM 12.1 RAM overhead was simply because of AOSP 5.1 changes, and not CM additions. At this point, it was only sensible to stick to CM 12.1 as performance drop from Stock 5.1 was minimal.
Recently I tried Stock 6.0, but IMHO it feels rushed, it exists only for the sake of existing. Moreover, I can not believe Motorola/Lenovo can be serious about the software of their lowest-end nearing-end-of-life phone. They had to release 6.0 only to avoid lawsuits for false update promises (made in advertising and on retail boxes).
A final point: I'd prefer CM over Stock any given day simply because of community involvement in development, testing and bug fixing. Being Open Source and hugely popular, CM bugs are reported and fixed much much faster than AOSP bugs. You might say that AOSP is also Open Source, but it's only one way. You can fork, but they don't accept changes back. Overall, I have HUGE trust in CM community than AOSP/OEMs which are only concerned about making more and more money.
Choosing between various Custom ROMs
Most Custom ROMs are developed only in following 2 ways:
AOSP/CAF based
CM based (which is itself AOSP/CAF based)
Type 1 ROMs simply can not match the community involvement and release frequency of CM. Most ROMs I've seen fade away after 1-2 months of updates/support while CM keeps going forever. I see added features only as extra bits that has to be maintained. Moreover, most of the extra features of Type 1 ROMs are already in CM, or available as Xposed modules, or available as root-supported apps. So these ROMs don't bring anything extra to table.
Type 2 ROMs also fail to match the release frequency and long time updates/support offered by CM. Moreover, the added features are also questionable for the same reasons as stated above.
A valid point for considering any custom ROM except CM would either be totally reskinned ROMs, or the ones which are based on other AOSP forks (MIUI etc.). Personally, I fail to see the point of reskinned ROMs. Once you start installing Play Store Apps, you'll quickly realise that Play Store Apps are based on Material (AOSP) UI guidelines. Hence, you'll end up with a system where user apps looks/behave completely different from System apps. That's too much of an eyesore for me.
Some say that ROM X is much faster that CM, but I'm yet to see such a ROM. Benchmarks aside, I've tried almost all ROMs available in our forums and their real world performance is more of the same. For a ROM X claiming to be faster than CM, I'd be very interested to see which code changes have resulted in such a gain and if so, why they haven't been added to CM already.
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So that's what I think. Let me know what do you guys think. Thanks for raising such a discussion
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https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=surnia only shows last 5 builds, where can I download this one? I'm still on 0324 build
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Have a look on the cm12.1 thread, I'll post you a link
CM12.1-unoffical-20160417
Wow, thanks for such a detailed reply, I really appreciate you taking the time to offer your experiences!
Stock 6.0 in my experience was awful, I hated it, and can say nothing good about it, even though many users have disagreed with me or told me I'm wrong or did not install it properly.......yeah.....right.......
CM13 is better than it has been of late but just lacks a bit of "polish"
Its way more stable now but it still seems to have "hizzy" fits for no reason, or go totally bonkers for no obvious reason......
Let me take time to say I have been using xposed and various customisation yo make my moto e more like the android n developer preview, and these mods where just a little bit too much for it, it would run fast, fine with no issues for 24-36 hours and then just give up and take over 20 minutes to load a web page or drop a call I was making several times before connecting on the third or four attempt.
Things were better when these mods were removed, but still not learning my lesson, I started experimenting with various launchers and lockscreens just because I love to customise my phone.
Again, this has not helped in my quest to find the ultimate user experience for my E2.
CM12.1
I've found this the most stable, fluid and "fastest" ROM of all.
I agree no ROM is faster than another, but everything just happens a bit faster in the ROM than others.
This ROM is my back up, fail safe and emergency, if I get a bad nightly with CM13 or CM13 misbehaves, I just drop back.
In my experience the difference in looks and behaviour between CM12.1 and CM13 is negligible.
The only difference I see is the adaptive storage in CM13.
Other ROMs.
I found resurrection remix a very good ROM, again, it would work flawlessly for several days and then just go stupid, in the end I gave up using it because it was no better or worse than CM13 (being CM13 based)
No other ROM I tested came close to CM but I have to mention Tipsy OS as a very good rom!
I have a 1st gen moto e that was my original personal daily driver until my work phone (given to me by my employers-A Sony Xperia M2) updated to lollipop and the touchscreen failed.
So my E1 took on the duty of becoming my work phone, I had to get it unlocked from Tesco to take my work Vodafone sim, but at a small cost.
My wife brought me the E2 last December as an early Christmas present (I suspect because it had £20 off the retail price hahaha) and I lost no time modding it, unlocking the bootloader, flashing twrp and installing CM12.1 within the first 24 hours of getting it home.
The E2 is way better than the E1 but the E1 copes with damp and dusty conditions at work, runs CM13 by squid flawlessly and even though its nowhere near as fast or fluid as the E2, it just copes with CM13.
The E2 copes better with anything you throw at it. I'm not a fan overlayed ROMs either but I'm running Xpirits excellent port of sense 7 and blinkfeed on my E2, and its totally fine.
I just wish the ringtone was louder on the E2, I have modded mp3s with various apps but I find them too distorted to use as ringtones.
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Blinkfeed/sense 7 port by Xpirit on my moto E 2nd gen [emoji41]
Here my take on this subject:
I feel as if the moto e is better now with running cm13 on mine. Stock wasn't bad, just I never been a big fan of xposed(shocker I know) and the longevity of the phone increases for me as I can run the latest android os thanks to the hard work of the devs.
Now I haven't flashed another rom except stock MM. but I feel very contempt for now with cm13 and how it performs for my needs with this phone. Last part off topic:
I also feel as if this could be the last moto e from Motorola(lenova whatever blah) and I also feel like that the moto g will just come in cheaper models that will replace the e. So this phone could be the last of a solid running android phone with stock android under 5inch that's actually worth the money!
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For me, nothing beats stock 6.0 with squid kernel. I've tried CM13 but the battery life wasnt even similar to stock 6.0 (yes, also with squid kernel installed). I dont play games, i only care about battery life and stock 6.0 is the best for that (at least for me).
pd: CM12.1 and stock 5.1.1 are great too if i install squid kernel + xposed + greenify + powernap. Stock 6.0 doesnt need so much work to give me great battery life.
903tex said:
Here my take on this subject:
I feel as if the moto e is better now with running cm13 on mine. Stock wasn't bad, just I never been a big fan of xposed(shocker I know) and the longevity of the phone increases for me as I can run the latest android os thanks to the hard work of the devs.
Now I haven't flashed another rom except stock MM. but I feel very contempt for now with cm13 and how it performs for my needs with this phone. Last part off topic:
I also feel as if this could be the last moto e from Motorola(lenova whatever blah) and I also feel like that the moto g will just come in cheaper models that will replace the e. So this phone could be the last of a solid running android phone with stock android under 5inch that's actually worth the money!
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I always use the Stock ROM since I faced serious issues with CM13 (But that's another story). I think the official firmware is much more stable compared to CM13, moreover it has Moto display and the audio effects EQ I can't live without. There will be a next Moto e (that's what the rumours suggest. Search Motorola affinity on the web) though it has been reported that it will feature a mediatek chip. This means ROM development will be slow and there will never be official CM13 on that device.(Since Cyanogenmod officially support only snapdragon chips).
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I wanted to ask, witch Roms are stable and support all features of Kenzo.
It seems that in several Roms there are different Problems,
from wakelocks and Battery drain,
over Wifi Problems
to missing Fingerprint or VolTE support.
Is it a Problem with Android 6.0 or also with 5.1 based Roms?
This should be in the Questions & Answers section. However, I have official CM 13.0 and I haven't encountered any of the problems that you mentioned above. If you read instructions carefully and understand what you're doing, you won't have any trouble as long as the rom you are flashing supports those features. If you head over to the Android Development section, you can see the features that each rom does and doesn't support. If the OP says it is supported but you can't get it to work, then the problem comes from your side. Before flashing make sure you have read and understood the required steps and have taken all the necessary precautions to avoid ending up with a "bricked" device. Let me know if you have any trouble.
jimakos98 said:
This should be in the Questions & Answers section. However, I have official CM 13.0 and I haven't encountered any of the problems that you mentioned above. If you read instructions carefully and understand what you're doing, you won't have any trouble as long as the rom you are flashing supports those features. If you head over to the Android Development section, you can see the features that each rom does and doesn't support. If the OP says it is supported but you can't get it to work, then the problem comes from your side. Before flashing make sure you have read and understood the required steps and have taken all the necessary precautions to avoid ending up with a "bricked" device. Let me know if you have any trouble.
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Thanks for your reply,
yes i know what im doing (had Nexus 4 and flashed it more than a hundred times).
I normally check first post (+ following from OP) and the last sites of the Thread to see if there are bugs or not (cause "no bugs" in OP-Thread is not always correct).
But if CM13 is, so far, bug free and full featured (fingerprint and so on) than i will give it a try.
DarkAlucard said:
Thanks for your reply,
yes i know what im doing (had Nexus 4 and flashed it more than a hundred times).
I normally check first post (+ following from OP) and the last sites of the Thread to see if there are bugs or not (cause "no bugs" in OP-Thread is not always correct).
But if CM13 is, so far, bug free and full featured (fingerprint and so on) than i will give it a try.
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It is. I've been using it for almost 1 month now, and I can say it's probably the most stable and complete rom for me. I also flashed the CM 13.0 supported firmware along with Radon Kernel and the device is blazing fast. As for the battery, I can get 1 week+ with minimal usage, and about 2-3 days with heavy usage which is pretty impressive for a hexa-core device with a 1080p screen.
jimakos98 said:
It is. I've been using it for almost 1 month now, and I can say it's probably the most stable and complete rom for me. I also flashed the CM 13.0 supported firmware along with Radon Kernel and the device is blazing fast. As for the battery, I can get 1 week+ with minimal usage, and about 2-3 days with heavy usage which is pretty impressive for a hexa-core device with a 1080p screen.
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I was wondering about this "firmware" thing, never had to upgrade any software. Normaly just flash the Rom.
I was also wondering what's the difference to the unofficial CM13
DarkAlucard said:
I was wondering about this "firmware" thing, never had to upgrade any software. Normaly just flash the Rom.
I was also wondering what's the difference to the unofficial CM13
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Well, if you are going to flash this rom you are going to have to flash the appropriate firmware too, since CM is based on it. If you flash the rom without flashing the firmware, you might end up with missing options in settings (I tried this and the "fingerprints" tab was missing). As soon as I flashed the firmware everything got fixed. Also, an official rom means that it is developed by a member or a group of members that have created the original project, while unofficial roms can be built by anyone. For example I can take a CM build and customize it the way i want and then release it to the public. This makes it an unofficial rom, since I'm not a member of the CM development team. But if a rom or an update releases on the CM website, then it is considered to be official.
By the way about the VoLTE support, quoting from OP Q&A:
Q) Is VoLTE supported? (Also useful if you have GApps related problems).
A) No. We use all proprietary blobs from MIUI Marshmallow alpha 'leaked' builds and those builds itself do not have it working. So we'll have to wait until Xiaomi fixes it in their marshmallow builds in future. Also we can't fallback to old LP radio blobs/libs and are not suited with current setup. #blamexiaomi
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I guess you'll have to wait for Xiaomi to release a stable working MM build if you want voLTE support. :/
hi, so i came across these two links:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/leec...ate-x820-lineageos-15-rom/amp/#jump-downloads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/8-0-0-lineageos-15-0-oreo-t3670377?nocache=1
so my question is this and hope i can get help on it:
i want to flash my le max 2 to either android 7 or 8, which third-party ROM (be it android 7 or 8) is the best and free of bugs?
which is pre-rooted? would love one that has been rooted before installing...if not yet rooted, hope it will be easy to root and help on rooting pls.
is the above link the best or any other suggestions and links...? :fingers-crossed:
would appreciate helpful links and comments
thanks
johnniearchangel said:
hi, so i came across these two links:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/leec...ate-x820-lineageos-15-rom/amp/#jump-downloads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/8-0-0-lineageos-15-0-oreo-t3670377?nocache=1
so my question is this and hope i can get help on it:
i want to flash my le max 2 to either android 7 or 8, which third-party ROM (be it android 7 or 8) is the best and free of bugs?
which is pre-rooted? would love one that has been rooted before installing...if not yet rooted, hope it will be easy to root and help on rooting pls.
is the above link the best or any other suggestions and links...? :fingers-crossed:
would appreciate helpful links and comments
thanks
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1. Both links are the same rom
2. Lineage 15 (Android 8) is bugged right now. Camera doesn't work and other problems
3. Stable roms are android 7
4. To root just install magisk
KuranKaname said:
1. Both links are the same rom
2. Lineage 15 (Android 8) is bugged right now. Camera doesn't work and other problems
3. Stable roms are android 7
4. To root just install magisk
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1. yeah, should i stated that tho.
2. thanks. will stay away from it
3. pls any link to get this Stable roms for android 7?
4. also, link to this (To root just install magisk) and process cos it will be my time time rooting, don't want to make mistakes
thanks alot once more
johnniearchangel said:
1. yeah, should i stated that tho.
2. thanks. will stay away from it
3. pls any link to get this Stable roms for android 7?
4. also, link to this (To root just install magisk) and process cos it will be my time time rooting, don't want to make mistakes
thanks alot once more
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Here's a link to resurrection remix. It's pretty good. https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/x82x-resurrectionremix-m-v5-7-4-t3542355. Most N roms are stable. You have instructions how to install the rom and what gapps to use in the first post on the rom thread. It's also pre rooted.
For the future, when you want to install root just flash this: http://tiny.cc/latestmagisk
Heyyo, for the most stable Nougat ROM? I'd recommend OmniROM. It's not as bleeding edge in changes such as BlackX or Resurrection Remix but it is built for stability upon OmniROM and Darkobas kernel. Depending as well on the build of Resurrection Remix it could have battery drain issues as you'll see on and off in the thread.
OmniROM also has the advantage of signed builds by Google so they come with official SafetyNet Certification. No need of Magisk and Magisk module workarounds so things like fingerprint unlock with your banking app should work without issue unlike any other ROM I've tried with RBC app... That also means if the Le Max 2 had built in NFC that android pay would have worked without a hitch...
I believe the only other custom ROM with signed builds by Google for official SafetyNet Certification is Paranoid Android but sadly there isn't official builds for the Le Max 2 (yet). Maybe once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 we will see that and built upon is custom kernel as well!
I tried porting it but I suck at it and failed haha oh well at least it turns out I'm good at vehicle repairs
If you want ROMs with as much optimization as possible? BlackX or Slimroms is what I'd recommend. Good device tree and vendor stacks and built with Blackscreen kernel for a good balance between performance and battery life.
Also, Resurrection Remix for Nougat has reached final versions so it won't be receiving updates. As far as I know for Nougat ROMs I think Slimroms and BlackX are the only ones receiving updates still as andr68rus and I believe the same with Shivatejapeddi have both changed focus to Oreo.
ThE_MarD said:
Heyyo, for the most stable Nougat ROM? I'd recommend OmniROM. It's not as bleeding edge in changes such as BlackX or Resurrection Remix but it is built for stability upon OmniROM and Darkobas kernel. Depending as well on the build of Resurrection Remix it could have battery drain issues as you'll see on and off in the thread.
OmniROM also has the advantage of signed builds by Google so they come with official SafetyNet Certification. No need of Magisk and Magisk module workarounds so things like fingerprint unlock with your banking app should work without issue unlike any other ROM I've tried with RBC app... That also means if the Le Max 2 had built in NFC that android pay would have worked without a hitch...
I believe the only other custom ROM with signed builds by Google for official SafetyNet Certification is Paranoid Android but sadly there isn't official builds for the Le Max 2 (yet). Maybe once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 we will see that and built upon is custom kernel as well!
I tried porting it but I suck at it and failed haha oh well at least it turns out I'm good at vehicle repairs
If you want ROMs with as much optimization as possible? BlackX or Slimroms is what I'd recommend. Good device tree and vendor stacks and built with Blackscreen kernel for a good balance between performance and battery life.
Also, Resurrection Remix for Nougat has reached final versions so it won't be receiving updates. As far as I know for Nougat ROMs I think Slimroms and BlackX are the only ones receiving updates still as andr68rus and I believe the same with Shivatejapeddi have both changed focus to Oreo.
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whoa, thanks alot for the detailed explanation.....
you really spoke highly of OmniROM (which i like) and you also said this: If you want ROMs with as much optimization as possible? BlackX or Slimroms is what I'd recommend
so which will you advise me to go for out of the three? plus which is pre-rooted or can be easily rooted?
i want to have a feel of a rooted device and see how it goes
would like to go for OmniROM (plus pls help me with links on how to get it) but let me have you final conclusion.
thanks alot for the helpful replies.
johnniearchangel said:
whoa, thanks alot for the detailed explanation.....
you really spoke highly of OmniROM (which i like) and you also said this: If you want ROMs with as much optimization as possible? BlackX or Slimroms is what I'd recommend
so which will you advise me to go for out of the three? plus which is pre-rooted or can be easily rooted?
i want to have a feel of a rooted device and see how it goes
would like to go for OmniROM (plus pls help me with links on how to get it) but let me have you final conclusion.
thanks alot for the helpful replies.
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You're welcome
It's up to you which path you wish to go. As mentioned OmniROM is definitely the most stable ROM as it tends to not receive major changes as quickly as other ROMs.
The official signed builds are found here:
http://dl.omnirom.org/x2/
Any ROM is super easy to root. Only requires flashing Magisk via TWRP. I'd easily recommend it over any other form of root since it's fully open source software (FOSS) and the modules capabilities is amazing with stuff like Universal SafetyNet fix or other mods like enabling 60fps recording on the Google Camera Mod. I also really enjoy the ART Optimization mod for a little extra performance.
Magisk is found here on XDA and I'd recommend v14.3 right now because v14.0 stable has actually given me more grief heh
You can download and read up on Magisk right here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74158225&postcount=31
BlackX ROM is actually maintained by that other dude who posted here, KuranKaname and definitely has the most optimizations of the buch that I recommended. His builds are based on LineageOS with Blackscreen 3.6 kernel which is really nice. His ROM does require special Gapps which can be found in his thread with the ROM downloads as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Slimroms was the third I mentioned which is kind of is a balance between the stability of OmniROM but some of the optimization of BlackX.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Since there isn't any limit on ROMs to flash you can always try out a ROM for a few days and if it doesn't quite suit your needs you can try swapping to a different ROM to see how it feels. In the end only you will know which of the three I mentioned is to your liking the most.
ThE_MarD said:
You're welcome
It's up to you which path you wish to go. As mentioned OmniROM is definitely the most stable ROM as it tends to not receive major changes as quickly as other ROMs.
The official signed builds are found here:
http://dl.omnirom.org/x2/
Any ROM is super easy to root. Only requires flashing Magisk via TWRP. I'd easily recommend it over any other form of root since it's fully open source software (FOSS) and the modules capabilities is amazing with stuff like Universal SafetyNet fix or other mods like enabling 60fps recording on the Google Camera Mod. I also really enjoy the ART Optimization mod for a little extra performance.
Magisk is found here on XDA and I'd recommend v14.3 right now because v14.0 stable has actually given me more grief heh
You can download and read up on Magisk right here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74158225&postcount=31
BlackX ROM is actually maintained by that other dude who posted here, KuranKaname and definitely has the most optimizations of the buch that I recommended. His builds are based on LineageOS with Blackscreen 3.6 kernel which is really nice. His ROM does require special Gapps which can be found in his thread with the ROM downloads as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Slimroms was the third I mentioned which is kind of is a balance between the stability of OmniROM but some of the optimization of BlackX.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Since there isn't any limit on ROMs to flash you can always try out a ROM for a few days and if it doesn't quite suit your needs you can try swapping to a different ROM to see how it feels. In the end only you will know which of the three I mentioned is to your liking the most.
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ThE_MarD said:
You're welcome
It's up to you which path you wish to go. As mentioned OmniROM is definitely the most stable ROM as it tends to not receive major changes as quickly as other ROMs.
The official signed builds are found here:
http://dl.omnirom.org/x2/
Any ROM is super easy to root. Only requires flashing Magisk via TWRP. I'd easily recommend it over any other form of root since it's fully open source software (FOSS) and the modules capabilities is amazing with stuff like Universal SafetyNet fix or other mods like enabling 60fps recording on the Google Camera Mod. I also really enjoy the ART Optimization mod for a little extra performance.
Magisk is found here on XDA and I'd recommend v14.3 right now because v14.0 stable has actually given me more grief heh
You can download and read up on Magisk right here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74158225&postcount=31
BlackX ROM is actually maintained by that other dude who posted here, KuranKaname and definitely has the most optimizations of the buch that I recommended. His builds are based on LineageOS with Blackscreen 3.6 kernel which is really nice. His ROM does require special Gapps which can be found in his thread with the ROM downloads as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Slimroms was the third I mentioned which is kind of is a balance between the stability of OmniROM but some of the optimization of BlackX.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/development/rom-blackx-unofficial-optimized-t3668458
Since there isn't any limit on ROMs to flash you can always try out a ROM for a few days and if it doesn't quite suit your needs you can try swapping to a different ROM to see how it feels. In the end only you will know which of the three I mentioned is to your liking the most.
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Actually, my build are based on a mixture of Lineage + Slim
Hi all,
I am on Epic since long time and would like to know what will be the best custom ROM for our Redmi Note 4X ?
With argues if possible.:angel:
Thanks for all:good:
Regarads
miui10 pro
u_no_fr said:
Hi all,
I am on Epic since long time and would like to know what will be the best custom ROM for our Redmi Note 4X ?
With argues if possible.:angel:
Thanks for all:good:
Regarads
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First thing it's wrong section
custom ROM depends on users choice and usage and different people may have different views
if you look for best stability but limited customization opt for omni ROM or AOSP-E
If you looking for super customisations then go for CrDroid, Resurrection Remix, Havoc-OS etc
but if you looking for balanced one along with decent battery backup go for MiracleDroid
my recommendation CrDroid
daily driver ( must try) : MiracleDroid
I found that the latest AOSiP (Illusion Project) combined with Stormguard kernel gave me really excellent battery life, had lots of options and good performance.
I also really like Alexey711's LineageOS Extended. I don't think he posts here on XDA, but keeps his wares on AFH. He updates regularly and provides lots of good options.
Then lastly, I also love MIUI 10. I prefer Xiaomi.eu's version, but also really like Escobar1945's version (eagerly waiting for that update!).
In the end though, every single user has different needs and different usage patterns. Best thing is to try them all. Try different combinations of ROMs and kernels until you find one that works best for you.
For me is Android P
Electro CZE said:
For me is Android P
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There are Android P roms here?
ForgottenDude said:
There are Android P roms here?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/how-to/experimantal-android-p-dp3-t3817446
epic rom is very good; i like these options: second space, dual apps,apps lock, themes, but i need dual boot for test other roms. but it dosen't support oreo roms.
elhattak7 said:
epic rom is very good; i like these options: second space, dual apps,apps lock, themes, but i need dual boot for test other roms. but it dosen't support oreo roms.
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The same functions have Xiaomi.eu rom... Or even Global rom.
sorry for wrong section, admin could move my thread if needed
ForgottenDude said:
There are Android P roms here?
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Yeaah ! And newest version of Android P u can look
https://www.google.cz/amp/s/forum.x...w-to/experimantal-android-p-dp3-t3817446/amp/
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There Is bug when u will use fingerprint scanner. And then when u restart system , system delete your fingerprint And u need again make fingerprint setup