Just creating this thread so that users can find the lollipop review at one place. So please write your initial experience with the lollipop firmware here.
Here is mine:
1. The user interface feels very smooth and snappy.
2. More amount of free ram in comparison to kitkat firmware(getting around 750 mb free in comparison to 500mb in kitkat)
3. Camera feels more or less the same
4. No XLoud
5. Now there is a sound played when the phone starts up
6. Power management is superb. Now we have ultra stamina mode.
Update: Those asking for battery life, I am getting nearly 6 hrs of SOT which is comparatively higher than what I got in kitkat
Its nice for sure.
-Eye candy
-Very good battery life
-Xperia stuff (Camera, widgets etc) not available on other ROMs
-Rooted and applied sound mod and I am happy (almost as good as fauxsound).
datagubben said:
Its nice for sure.
-Eye candy
-Very good battery life
-Xperia stuff (Camera, widgets etc) not available on other ROMs
-Rooted and applied sound mod and I am happy.
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battery draining a bit fast here. maybe a setting i'm missing.
What's you setup, if you don't mind me asking please?
I have stamina mode and extended use enabled, disabled adaptive brightness, and unistalled almost all the sony bloatware.
My Experience:
1. UI is so smooth
2. Battery life more or less the same with KitKat, need more testing.
3. Device seems a bit warmer. Don't know why.
4. PS Remote Play is available for XZU now (at least in Indonesian version) unfortunately no PS4 so boo hoo for me
5. Camera.. Yes still the same, no improvement
6. Small App getting closed on Back Button (shame that originally in Kitkat it didn't but because Z3 does close the small app on back button)
Overall very happy for it Feels like having new phone all over again
halifage said:
battery draining a bit fast here. maybe a setting i'm missing.
What's you setup, if you don't mind me asking please?
I have stamina mode and extended use enabled, disabled adaptive brightness, and unistalled almost all the sony bloatware.
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Im comparing to other Lollipop ROMs (eg CM12.1) for our Togari which don´t have Stamina mode, stock with stamina is way better than any other ROM.
But of course rooted now!!!
How were you guys able to root?
What procedure did you use? I lost root when I updated to L using PC Companion.
I have a locked bootloader btw.
Thanks!
halifage said:
battery draining a bit fast here. maybe a setting i'm missing.
What's you setup, if you don't mind me asking please?
I have stamina mode and extended use enabled, disabled adaptive brightness, and unistalled almost all the sony bloatware.
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Just wait for sometime. Let the system settle. Hopefully the battery life will be better.
BragaisG said:
How were you guys able to root?
What procedure did you use? I lost root when I updated to L using PC Companion.
I have a locked bootloader btw.
Thanks!
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At the moment no root for locked bootloader, have you checked if you are able to unlock the bootloader?
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At the moment no root for locked bootloader, have you checked if you are able to unlock the bootloader?
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I have not tried unlocking the bootloader since all I am after is root.
As I understand, unlocking the BL is required only if you are flashing a custom ROM?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
BragaisG said:
I have not tried unlocking the bootloader since all I am after is root.
As I understand, unlocking the BL is required only if you are flashing a custom ROM?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Not really, unlocking gives you the possibility to root and install recovery and the optional possibility to install ROM.
Unlock your bootloader man! :good:
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Not really, unlocking gives you the possibility to root and install recovery and the optional possibility to install ROM.
Unlock your bootloader man! :good:
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Wait... at least in 4.4.4 many users (including me) with LOCKED bootloader were rooted, with recovery and had the optional possibility to instal LB ROMs... and it seems in Lollipop some people are getting the same also if they update to Lollipop following certain steps. Anyway, soon we'll probably have root for all locked bootloader users, so this is a matter of preference! :good:
@datagubben
Do you have write access to /system? Asking because I have also rooted but any app that tries to write to system partition (busybox installer, viperFX and so on) fails
Regards
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@datagubben
Do you have write access to /system? Asking because I have also rooted but any app that tries to write to system partition (busybox installer, viperFX and so on) fails
Regards
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Flash nuts dual recovery first, then supersu.
All good.
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Wait... at least in 4.4.4 many users (including me) with LOCKED bootloader were rooted, with recovery and had the optional possibility to instal LB ROMs... and it seems in Lollipop some people are getting the same also if they update to Lollipop following certain steps. Anyway, soon we'll probably have root for all locked bootloader users, so this is a matter of preference! :good:
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I had a handset with unlockable bootloader before with my mobile operator, I never do that again.
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I have not tried unlocking the bootloader since all I am after is root.
As I understand, unlocking the BL is required only if you are flashing a custom ROM?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I would consider trying to downgrade to 4.4.4 first where you can root without unlocking bootloader. That will allow you to back up TA partition before unlocking bootloader.
I dont care about warranty really.
Once I get lolipop for Z ultra, if I ask for bootloader unlock, would I lose the DRM keys for the camera and sony TM features?
I dont care about custom roms ever since my last phone.
I never unlocked but I've been rooted since almost D1, and I know all LP bells and whistles are a way to keep me wanting for (root) more, but soon I'll be waiting for a way to root. I'm not a fan of unlocking simply because every time you have to keep up with backup, restore, wipe etc.
I unfortunately have little to no time for this kind of tinkering these days, and I can't afford to pass a single day without phone (because you possibly mess up once in a while).
I'll root when the time comes, in the mean time:
*I don't care about the launcher, if you want there's plenty of themes (including several here on XDA) that resemble the stock LP launcher, so if you're into it, go for it
*UI is EXTRA smooth, not one time the launcher refreshed or had me waiting 1 sec to go back to. *Multitasking is super fast, and thank to God (for my toddler) I'm able to pin one single app to stay until I say so
*Smart unlock works a charm and my SW3 is paired and set as trusted so I seldom have the need to unlock with a pin or pattern
*Battery is fine, seems to drain like 15% less than KK
*Multi user is finally here, so my daughter can play with games without messing with my progress in them or snooping around
*Ultra stamina mode is one thing I'll rarely use, but it's a welcome addition, who knows, maybe it'll save my Ass when I'll need it the most
*Couldn't care less about PS4 remote play (and on my C6833 it still shows as not compatible), because I have a Vita and I like to play on my 55" Bravia TV anyway
*really welcome to the "restart, screenshot and record screen" buttons on the power menu, one thing they added straight from Gravitybox
I still don't understand why the hell Sony doesn't give us tap to Wake, it will make a lot of people happy...
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@datagubben
Do you have write access to /system? Asking because I have also rooted but any app that tries to write to system partition (busybox installer, viperFX and so on) fails
Regards
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Okay, working fine now, just install 2.8.10 version of nut's dual recovery ?
I would probably wait for a way to root Lollipop without unlocking the bootloader since doing so does not mean I gain root access.
I am not seeing any post from where I looked as to how to root this firmware even with an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks and regards everyone!
I also have some more testing to do but while I love the update I have noticed:
-Battery life seems worse (I had to recharge a couple of times yesterday)
-UI speed is inconsistent. Sometimes it is really fast and others it bogs down.
-I have been getting home launcher reloads which is unfortunate.
I love the new design though. Overall the phone definitely seems to chug on me more though.
Very bad bug In audio settings. While playing music In walkman app the audio settings are lost and the sound feels like lower resolution and without bass when playing next song!
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Hello everyone.
I tried rooting my Xperia ray today using this guide: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/root-your-xperia-phone-without-voiding-warranty/
Bear with me, you might find all of this tedious to read. My phone came with GB 2.3.4 build .62 which is hard to root. So as the above guide directed, I downloaded a .42 build firmware, CE(Central Europe perhaps? I don't know) and tried to flash it using flashtool. I disconnected the phone from the PC in between. My phone wouldn't boot. Then I used SUS and updated it to ICS, making the phone work. I then flashed it to GB .42 patiently, and with success. Alas, problems started immediately. Many processes such as media, calender storage, acro etc came up as stopped working. Even after selecting force close they would keep appearing. I cleared the respective cache/data and the notifications stopped. Then I rooted it using Doomlord's toolkit, and updated to .62 via OTA, keeping my root. A few things have changed. The keyboard name is the same, International keyboard, but it is different and I don't like it. Camera is not working. Screen goes blank if I open the camera. Messaging does not work and the messaging app crashes as soon as I open it. No contacts are found, despite importing them again. (They all show up when using the import from SIM option, it says importing is done but they are nowhere to be found). I called someone manually. While calling his name shows up but my contacts is completely blank. Google search is not working and it crashes too. There might be other problems, but I haven't checked. Anything in particular to check? Please help me solve all these issues. I'm glad my phone is rooted now, but it's next to useless due to all this. Please help me.
Great. Even the screen unlock security seems to not work. No slide to unlock. No pattern unlock even though I saved a pattern. I press the power button, the phone just shows the home. No security. How do I fix all this? PC Companion? SUS? And I don't want ICS so I won't use them if that's what they're going to update my phone to rather than fix it.
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
mihahn said:
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
Androman117 said:
Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
mihahn said:
No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
Androman117 said:
Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
mihahn said:
Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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For me it's better than gingerbread, but I don't often play games on phone, only somteims, but the games are going well :good:
The rom is only for unlocked bootloader and I didn't upload, but another member in development section did
No I'm not using any mods or tweaks, just sd maid to clean my sd sometimes, but jellybean is running smooth without any tweaks
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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I think you have gotten a lot of good advice from Mihahn and I just wanted to add some suggestions before you unlock your bootloader...you probably want to get comfortable working with CWM Recovery. It has been a while since I did this on GB but there are a bunch of tools that you can use to put recovery onto GB stock roms and a good place to start is this thread in Ray Dev: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426912
Also before you decide you just gotta have a certain ROM, take a good look at the OP for the ROM....there may be something not working correctly that would be a deal breaker for you....there are some features that only work properly on a stock based ROM. This is particularly true of the Jelly Bean 4.2 build for the Ray....the 4.1 ROMs are working pretty good.....but if you absolutely love the sony camera app then you have to stay on a stock ROM.
Have fun!
Hey guys, You may have noticed that ive been posting a few posts here and there and I also have a YouTube Channel Which is JackHasAnLG
Im going to start making more Xperia Z Ultra videos soon, Ive already got this one
Just a quick Unboxing
Reviews, Custom Roms and more to come, let me know if theres anything in specific you want to see
J
Cool stuff, we need one!
shaolin95 said:
Cool stuff, we need one!
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Yay someone commented!
Anything in particular? Obviously got the Unboxing and benchmarks, hoping to get the Sony magnetic dock and I have a S Case for it
mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
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I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
hassanmahmood said:
I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
JackHanAnLG said:
Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
hassanmahmood said:
I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
JackHanAnLG said:
Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
hassanmahmood said:
I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I dont see why sony make it so hard. I had a galaxy S3 beforehand, a nexus 4 and even my older LG 2X just plugged into a computer, USB debugging and a piece of software and that was it
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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First it depends on your desire. And how to receive root read the guide, the first post in this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Why do you want/need root?
If you can answer that question; go for it.
I totally understand the need for root fot a lot of users.......that being said this is the first and only phone ive had in 5 years that I have not felt the need to root/unlock bootloader................................. YET!
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
Sent from my C6802 using xda app-developers app
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We can't offer advice. If you need access to the root directory for any reason then you will need to...
If not then obviously leave it as is.
All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Yep, because if one needs root, the question is... "What's the most recent / best method?"
My advise, don't worry about root until you need root access. I was doing fine without it until Sony decided to screw up sound enhancements on its latest software update. If you aren't on .136, my advice wait till kit Kat to make a decision on updating/rooting!:good:
Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
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Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
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Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
not to root because:
1. It has unremovable battery, so i don't want to have it died faster with all that plug/unplug ordeal
2. i got all the service that was offered at the time of purchase, i just want to enjoy it as long as i can
3. The stock ROM is enough for me
4. Helium/Carbon Backup is there to substitute TiBu
So each of the way is good in for some reason. For me the the urge to mod is dead if you are not rooted (obvious) but there are a lot of other ways to do a modding, for instance, do your own program might be a better approach to fill on your own needs. There are more than one ways to Rome anyway
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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
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Good one!!
rooting the latest is a pain. But i didnt start using my phone, till i had safely rooted it.
This is the only phone i havent rooted yet sincee the eclair era...no need.already powerful.smooth fast clear.nothing left to tweak n screw for me.best one yet.
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i dont root till Sony didnt released the last Firmware. If that gives me the Power to move Apps to SD the phone stays unrooted. If not i go for root, because of the size of my apps and because of the option Titanium Backup gives me
This is the only Android phone I have kept the stock ROM. I rooted it a couple of times but kept going back to the stable stock rom. The phone is naturally fast and smooth and has good memory and battery management as standard.
Need something else? then root.
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
Sent from my C6802 using xda app-developers app
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I think the main reason to root these days is to use Xposed. Sony stock roms+Xposed make a wonderful combination of features and stability.
Just to give an example, with Xposed you can have the features of (what used to be) Paranoid Android on a Sony stock rom.
This said, it is true that rooting .290/.136 firmwares may be a pain in the ass, but anyone that follows instructions carefully should be able to do it safely.
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blueether said:
Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
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Wimp I am when it comes to my primary work device I have lots of other older devices that I've hacked the crap out of (I can't count how many ROM's I've put on my GT7.7) and my Dell Streak wasn't even useful until I put a custom ROM it.
None of what you described above is something that I haven't done with other devices (But never with my current everyday primary device). That being said, My original statement still stands - there is no SIMPLE way to ROOT your phone and keep/backup the original config/partitions. My last 3 devices, I downloaded an App, clicked the button and whammo, Root.
Until I absolutely need it, I'll just stick with Stock/No-Root (That is of course unless someone creates a Whammo solution).
Thank you all for your response.
I have decidedto stick to the stock ROM for time being.
Once again I truly appreciate your response
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OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
spiff72 said:
OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
lacoursiere18 said:
Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
spiff72 said:
Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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OK. I really don't want to go down the "stock" path and end up with a locked BL - that is why i am looking for alternatives!
Thanks again!
Now I am starting to think that the 4.4 ROMs out there may not be very well suited to the idea of "unrooting".
I have tried a couple of 4.4 ROMs like CM11 and AOKP in the last couple of days, and there seems to be a recurring theme - they all have the Superuser menus built into the settings. Will this be problematic?
I have seen that the SuperSU app does have an unroot option in the settings, but I have read conflicting reports of what this actually does. It sounds like it removes the app, but leaves the binaries behind, and this might be detected by the root detection features in the Maas360 app.
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about getting a Z2 because they are pretty cheap now and I don't really see such a big benefit when looking at the Z3 or Z5.
I'm coming from a Nexus5 on which I stupidly broke the screen so I'm in need of something new.
I do however have a few worries about getting the Z2 maybe you can help me out.
1. Does unlocking and flashing custom roms break anything? I love custom roms or pure android so I really want to use it however I read somewhere that flashing custom roms loses some features on the z2. Does it worsen the camera due to drm not working?
2. Android M support was announced by sony however how long does it usually take them to roll out updates?
3. Does the Z2 have the same "screen cracking without force" issue as the Z3 seems to be plagued by?
4. Are there any really compelling reasons to get a Z3 instead of Z2? I read some reviews saying the screen is better but thats about it...
5. Does the Z2 support camera2.api?
Thanks a lot.
pseudoheld said:
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about getting a Z2 because they are pretty cheap now and I don't really see such a big benefit when looking at the Z3 or Z5.
I'm coming from a Nexus5 on which I stupidly broke the screen so I'm in need of something new.
I do however have a few worries about getting the Z2 maybe you can help me out.
1. Does unlocking and flashing custom roms break anything? I love custom roms or pure android so I really want to use it however I read somewhere that flashing custom roms loses some features on the z2. Does it worsen the camera due to drm not working?
2. Android M support was announced by sony however how long does it usually take them to roll out updates?
3. Does the Z2 have the same "screen cracking without force" issue as the Z3 seems to be plagued by?
4. Are there any really compelling reasons to get a Z3 instead of Z2? I read some reviews saying the screen is better but thats about it...
5. Does the Z2 support camera2.api?
Thanks a lot.
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1. Yes, you'll lose Xreality, some camera processing, Screen Mirroring and OTA. However there are 2 solutions to that: You could root the device without unlocking your device or unlock your device (remember to backup DRM first) and flash drm fix. Both methods retain full functionality (without OTA of course in case you unlock).
2. No idea. It varies.
3. There was a really small batch of defective units (probably ones that came out first anyway), nothing to worry about. Nowadays I don't see any complains about screen cracking anymore.
4. If you use ported Qualcomm Assertive Display screens will be identical as far as I know. The Z3 used to have better battery life, but I'm quite sure that's no more valid as the .232 LP update improved battery life significantly.
5. No, actually none of Sony devices support that. Unfortunately. Heh.
EDIT: I use the Z2 for 2 years now and I cannot see any reason to switch to Z3 or Z5. Overall this is a very solid buy, if you ask me. Especially for the price.
Jackos said:
1. Yes, you'll lose Xreality, some camera processing, Screen Mirroring and OTA. However there are 2 solutions to that: You could root the device without unlocking your device or unlock your device (remember to backup DRM first) and flash drm fix. Both methods retain full functionality (without OTA of course in case you unlock).
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First of all a big thanks for taking the time to help me out!
1. If I root my device without unlocking the bootloader will I be able to flash a custom recovery and custom roms? Or am I then restricted to the Stock rom (with root of course)
2. Can custom roms make use of xreality and the camera processing if I flash the DRM fix? Or is it just for people who erased their DRM and are now back on stock and want the features back?
3. Can I root all Firmware versions or is a downgrade sometimes still necessary to root?
4. Is this the right tool for rooting without unlocking? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559009
EDIT: after reading a little i guess its this one right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783750
pseudoheld said:
First of all a big thanks for taking the time to help me out!
1. If I root my device without unlocking the bootloader will I be able to flash a custom recovery and custom roms? Or am I then restricted to the Stock rom (with root of course)
2. Can custom roms make use of xreality and the camera processing if I flash the DRM fix? Or is it just for people who erased their DRM and are now back on stock and want the features back?
3. Can I root all Firmware versions or is a downgrade sometimes still necessary to root?
4. Is this the right tool for rooting without unlocking? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559009
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No worries, had similar questions 2 years ago when I was switching from S3 to Z2
1. No, unfortunately with locked bootloader you have to use stock kernel - and it's not compatible with custom roms. The good aspect here is that if you want to switch to a custom ROM you won't need any of the DRM keys, because custom roms don't use them at all. You only need DRM keys on stock (or stock based) roms. Yes, you will be able to use Recovery with locked bootloader (however that's a bit different from Nexus devices since the Z2 doesn't have a recovery partition by default).
2. No, the DRM fix is only for stock (or stock based roms). Unfortunately, if you use custom ROM camera quality will be worse and you won't have Xreality, because that's closed source Sony software. But if you find a camera app that does image processing, who knows what effects you'll get
3. You need to downgrade to at least LP5.0.2 to root. But that's easy enough. Later you just install a custom recovery and install a prerooted rom package to be on the latest version.
4. Yes, everything AndroPlus releases is top notch
Jackos said:
1. No, unfortunately with locked bootloader you have to use stock kernel - and it's not compatible with custom roms. The good aspect here is that if you want to switch to a custom ROM you won't need any of the DRM keys, because custom roms don't use them at all. You only need DRM keys on stock (or stock based) roms. Yes, you will be able to use Recovery with locked bootloader (however that's a bit different from Nexus devices since the Z2 doesn't have a recovery partition by default).
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1. If I want custom roms I need to unlock my BL. Can I unlock and relock my BL?
2. What is different about Recovery on this device?
3. Does Xposed work well? (Incase I stay on stock and still want some extras?)
pseudoheld said:
1. If I want custom roms I need to unlock my BL. Can I unlock and relock my BL?
2. What is different about Recovery on this device?
3. Does Xposed work well? (Incase I stay on stock and still want some extras?)
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1. Yes, without an issue. Also, restoring DRM keys also relocks the BL.
2. There is no recovery partition. Start off by reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/noob-guide-to-sony-ericsson-xperia-t3209012
3. Yes.
Jackos said:
2. There is no recovery partition. Start off by reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/noob-guide-to-sony-ericsson-xperia-t3209012
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Thanks thats a great thread!
So the steps should be as follows:
1. get phone
2. root without unlocking
3. back up TA
4. unlock bootload
5. flash a custom kernel containing a recovery
6. flash custom rom (or dont)
Going back to the kernels. SO every custom kernel contains a recovery? Did I understand that correctly?
why can't sony just make the next nexus device...i would be all over that!
pseudoheld said:
Thanks thats a great thread!
So the steps should be as follows:
1. get phone
2. root without unlocking
3. back up TA
4. unlock bootload
5. flash a custom kernel containing a recovery
6. flash custom rom (or dont)
Going back to the kernels. SO every custom kernel contains a recovery? Did I understand that correctly?
why can't sony just make the next nexus device...i would be all over that!
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Yes, the steps seem correct. Although you mighty want to install a recovery without using a custom kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606 That's also possible for LB.
Yes, most kernels contain already a recovery. But you can also use a stock kernel and install a custom recovery by yourself. Or use kernel builder to make you a stock kernel with recovery build-in by default (but you need to unlock your BL anyway).
Jackos said:
Yes, the steps seem correct. Although you mighty want to install a recovery without using a custom kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606 That's also possible for LB.
Yes, most kernels contain already a recovery. But you can also use a stock kernel and install a custom recovery by yourself. Or use kernel builder to make you a stock kernel with recovery build-in by default (but you need to unlock your BL anyway).
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I just bought a Z2
Should arrive in a few days. Looking forward to tinkering with it.
Thanks for the help so far!
I have used Nexus 5 but it had terrible battery life/ screen on time and Z2 is great in battery life department and i think Z2 is much better phone which people can buy right now compare to M8/S5. It offer good design/ Excellent battery life/decent camera/ latest software/ affordable price/IP rating and more RAM so its quiet well all rounder in reasonable price and Sony is quick in giving updates and sony phones are the only phones where i never felt the need to unlock bootloader to try CM based ROM because these Xperia have less bloat ware and software is light and speedy so Enjoy your company with Z2