Hi all. I just picked up my M9 today and will be activating it soon. I was wondering if there's a way to S-Off yet or are we limited to just unlocking the bootloader right now? My main concern is that I need a 4G hotspot at the moment, but from what I was reading the Bad Boyz rom has that feature.
Jcase and team (sunshine via rootninja) will release it to public when it's ready, bad boyz , from what I have heard, allows you to tether LTE.
Crawshayi said:
Hi all. I just picked up my M9 today and will be activating it soon. I was wondering if there's a way to S-Off yet or are we limited to just unlocking the bootloader right now? My main concern is that I need a 4G hotspot at the moment, but from what I was reading the Bad Boyz rom has that feature.
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Crawshayi said:
Hi all. I just picked up my M9 today and will be activating it soon. I was wondering if there's a way to S-Off yet or are we limited to just unlocking the bootloader right now? My main concern is that I need a 4G hotspot at the moment, but from what I was reading the Bad Boyz rom has that feature.
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S-off is here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/general/guide-s-off-m9-spr-t3086696
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I know the current unlocked bootloader causes you to lose 4g.
I'm curious as to why. I've tried searching these forums and googling this, but all I can find is posts and articles that say it simply doesn't work, but never mentioning why. From my Evo 4G days, when they unlocked the bootloder, 4G was never lost and the same is true with the Evo 3D. Revolutionary was able to unlock without affecting 4G. I'm wondering why the photon is different. Does Motorola's bootloader do things differently? Or is something else at play here?
Basically, I am hoping someone can tell me why 4G is lost in the current bootloader.
(P.S. This isn't a complaint or anything. I know there are good devs working on this. I am genuinely curious about why 4G doesn't work with the unlocked bootloader)
MultiDev said:
I know the current unlocked bootloader causes you to lose 4g.
I'm curious as to why. I've tried searching these forums and googling this, but all I can find is posts and articles that say it simply doesn't work, but never mentioning why. From my Evo 4G days, when they unlocked the bootloder, 4G was never lost and the same is true with the Evo 3D. Revolutionary was able to unlock without affecting 4G. I'm wondering why the photon is different. Does Motorola's bootloader do things differently? Or is something else at play here?
Basically, I am hoping someone can tell me why 4G is lost in the current bootloader.
(P.S. This isn't a complaint or anything. I know there are good devs working on this. I am genuinely curious about why 4G doesn't work with the unlocked bootloader)
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When the Evo 4G was originally unlocked, it did kill 4G. Pretty much for the same reason ours does - the bootloader passes off some keys to the 4G radio so that you can connect to the network - ours is missing that part of the hand shake. Jugs has a fix in mind, but is having a hard time coming up with the hardware to build a new bootloader - at least that was the case about 2 weeks ago.
same thing happened with the evo shift. When it was unlocked it took a while to get it figured out how to keep 4g.
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....Jugs has a fix in mind, but is having a hard time coming up with the hardware to build a new bootloader - at least that was the case about 2 weeks ago.
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That's old news - he always had compatible hardware (but didn't realize it) and then someone gave him a 64-bit OS. Other issues have arisen since then - I just don't think that path will produce anything.
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That's old news - he always had compatible hardware (but didn't realize it) and then someone gave him a 64-bit OS. Other issues have arisen since then - I just don't think that path will produce anything.
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A lot changes in 2 weeks
Can someone explain the current situation with 4G not working after unlocking the boot-loader I believe and will that be fixed anytime soon ?
Don't quote my on this, im NOT at all a dev. But i believe its something to do with the RSA Keys getting screwed up when unlocking bootloader, and i know that there are a few devs working on a fix and we generally don't push them for an ETA, they are working on it in their spare time and we are more than thankful they're working on stuff for our photons. Again im not a dev so don't quote me on the RSA Keys, just something i read a while back and *believe* is the issue, if im wrong feel free to correct me and correctly answer the OP's question. If your wanting to have a rom and still have 4g, theres a longer process you can go through to maintain 4g and still have a rom, but is a long process from what ive heard. Ill post link to it below if your interested.
Maintain 4g with Alien(or any rom)
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Can someone explain the current situation with 4G not working after unlocking the boot-loader I believe and will that be fixed anytime soon ?
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I wouldnt ask for an ETA but the devs are great, it'll be out before you know it!
If I understand correctly, 4G is just Sprint's CDMA WIMax? I'm getting a Photon for use on my carriers GSM network and they don't have LTE or anything (just HSDPA/HSUPA I think).
So losing "4G" when unlocking wouldn't affect me correct?
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If I understand correctly, 4G is just Sprint's CDMA WIMax? I'm getting a Photon for use on my carriers GSM network and they don't have LTE or anything (just HSDPA/HSUPA I think).
So losing "4G" when unlocking wouldn't affect me correct?
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correct.
hopefully you're not intending on using a US GSM network since they're currently 'locked'...
chibucks said:
correct.
hopefully you're not intending on using a US GSM network since they're currently 'locked'...
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No I read up on that, I'm going to be using it in little ol' New Zealand
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I wouldnt ask for an ETA but the devs are great, it'll be out before you know it!
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well i just wanted to know the current situation of it and why does it screw up. I want to flash CM7 but yea I'm waiting on that fix
So the developer version comes S-Off. But that is an AT&T phone. Not good on T-Mobile frequencies.
HTC Dev just unlocks the bootloader, still S-On.
Do any of you believe there will be a way to get S-Off on our non dev phones??
My last phone was the Sensation, S-Off was possible as long as you didn't use HTC Dev yet, well, back when I did it. I've skipped a couple of generations of HTC phones since then. Are there any indications from some of the more recent HTC's that S-Off is still a possibility without the need of the developer phone??
No phone is s-off.
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Pr20 said:
No phone is s-off.
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Yeah......except for a whole **** load of them.......lolwut?
Previous HTC Devices using Snapdragon processors were S-Off'd (I.e. U.S version of last years flagship whereas the international Tegra 3 never achieved S-Off). The developer edition is S-ON btw, AT&T doesn't get ALL the good things
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So the developer version comes S-Off. But that is an AT&T phone. Not good on T-Mobile frequencies.
HTC Dev just unlocks the bootloader, still S-On.
Do any of you believe there will be a way to get S-Off on our non dev phones??
My last phone was the Sensation, S-Off was possible as long as you didn't use HTC Dev yet, well, back when I did it. I've skipped a couple of generations of HTC phones since then. Are there any indications from some of the more recent HTC's that S-Off is still a possibility without the need of the developer phone??
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The ATT developer phone is not S-Off! It is unlocked bootloader and carrier only and no bloatware. You can do that yourself and not pay the extra price. It does have 64gb however but doesn't work on the t-mobile lte bands I believe. S-Off is not necessarily needed with TWRP Dumlock from what I understand.
frodoboy said:
The ATT developer phone is not S-Off! It is unlocked bootloader and carrier only and no bloatware. You can do that yourself and not pay the extra price. It does have 64gb however but doesn't work on the t-mobile lte bands I believe. S-Off is not necessarily needed with TWRP Dumlock from what I understand.
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It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
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It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
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Stupid unless there is a hardware difference between the T-Mobile and ATT radios. I don't think there is, but it is possible. People are assuming it is just firmware that can be flashed with a ROM.
As to S-Off, my last phone was an Amaze, and it required using a wire to short two places together under the battery cover. From what I have read, there are several HTC phones like that. But there is no way to get to those points in a One.
EtherealRemnant said:
It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
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Without S-Off, it seems like the Root System is locked down. AdAway wont stick after reboot. And Busybox isn't able to install its binaries. When I try to convert Busybox as a system app, the phone just reboots. Also, when I try to delete something in the Root System (like the loud T-Mobile bootanimation sound), it causes a reboot also.
My last HTC phone was a G2/DZ and we had s-off via gfree method using command prompt which was very annoying. So hopefully we can get s-off one day. If not, then the next Nexus (5?) will be my next phone in fall/winter. And yes, I will still keep my H1. Its a very nice phone overall.
EDIT: I just read that a custom rom that allows system write will work. I guess stock carrier H1 roms are kinda locked down with system write issues. Will backup my current rom and test one of the International ROMs (even tho I heard about the possible radio/RIL+signal issues).
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Stupid unless there is a hardware difference between the T-Mobile and ATT radios. I don't think there is, but it is possible. People are assuming it is just firmware that can be flashed with a ROM.
As to S-Off, my last phone was an Amaze, and it required using a wire to short two places together under the battery cover. From what I have read, there are several HTC phones like that. But there is no way to get to those points in a One.
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Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
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Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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They used an MSM8260A chip which is an MSM8960 that doesn't support LTE in the T-Mobile S3. No hope for us unfortunately.
We will get soff eventually just wait. It's tooooooo early to be expecting that. Just be glad we have roms and all after the phone being out for only about a month worldwide.
I came from the quickly forgotten amaze and am very surprised over the amount of development this phone already has!
Sent from the one and only HTC One
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Yeah......except for a whole **** load of them.......lolwut?
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I meant no version of the HTC one (as he was talking about developer, at&t and T-Mobile) was s-off.
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I am on my HTC DNA s-off and the only thing we benefited from for having s-off is when you flash a custom kernel you don't have to fastboot flash the boot.img separately using a cmd prompt. Other than that it wasn't beneficial too much. It also opened the gates to brick your device easily. It will not hender Rom or custom kernel development. And the kernel is what allows you to write/delete system files. So once we see some kernel developments that allows the r/w to the system the issues where changes doesn't stick after reboot will be eliminated.
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Without S-Off, it seems like the Root System is locked down. AdAway wont stick after reboot. And Busybox isn't able to install its binaries. When I try to convert Busybox as a system app, the phone just reboots. Also, when I try to delete something in the Root System (like the loud T-Mobile bootanimation sound), it causes a reboot also.
My last HTC phone was a G2/DZ and we had s-off via gfree method using command prompt which was very annoying. So hopefully we can get s-off one day. If not, then the next Nexus (5?) will be my next phone in fall/winter. And yes, I will still keep my H1. Its a very nice phone overall.
EDIT: I just read that a custom rom that allows system write will work. I guess stock carrier H1 roms are kinda locked down with system write issues. Will backup my current rom and test one of the International ROMs (even tho I heard about the possible radio/RIL+signal issues).
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I have the TMo One and have been using ARHD 7 for a few days and loving it. No signal issues here
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I am on my HTC DNA s-off and the only thing we benefited from for having s-off is when you flash a custom kernel you don't have to fastboot flash the boot.img separately using a cmd prompt. Other than that it wasn't beneficial too much. It also opened the gates to brick your device easily. It will not hender Rom or custom kernel development. And the kernel is what allows you to write/delete system files. So once we see some kernel developments that allows the r/w to the system the issues where changes doesn't stick after reboot will be eliminated.
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Yea same for the EVO LTE - S-Off is def convenient and I would do it regardless, but if you were worried about messing up it's not a deal breaker to be s-on.
Seeing that S-OFF text on the bootloader screen does give me a weird warm and fuzzy feeling though
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Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
paulgyro said:
Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
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you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
clsA said:
you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
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Thanks so much for the reply. And by the way your site looks awesome!
Currently I've unlocked my boot loader and am now moving on to the next task to get S-OFF
I did this for fun in my friend Sim card to test out. I flashed tmobile selection in ROM setting twrp (att rom)viper rom on AT&T HTC One and LTE works depending on location. Getting 40 Mbps.
Gonna try 30 dollar Walmart deal on att ROM for tmobile
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clsA said:
you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
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I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
paulgyro said:
I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
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Not sure why you are trying, as the previous poster mentioned. You will have some service. But AWS bands as well as LTE are your data and they will not work. So all you will be able to do is send and receive text and make calls.
paulgyro said:
I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
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Give firewater a try instead. If you are on the new HBOOT I couldn't get rumrunner to kick through although it should work. Firewater doesn't rely on a bunch of reboots.
It works even with rooted At&t stock rom
paulgyro said:
Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
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I just got an used/new HTC One from ebay. The cellphone came with stock At&t, locked, unrooted. I first unlocked the boatloader via HTCDev, then installed TWRP. Used the cellphone with T-Mobile and no issues, except the mms. Then decided to install ViperOne 6.1.0. and it fixed everything, I was able to send/receive mms, plus all additonal extras, hotspot, fully customize, etc. Unfortunately, I loved the way that Blinkfeed transition/scrol;ing had on the At&t rom and the fact that could have Flickr as widget within blinkfeed as well. So S-off the cellphone usign firewater (no pain) and installed RUU. Once, I had this Rom, I was able to get hotspot by modifying the default.xml, and killed/unistalled at&t blotware. I might just go back to ViperOne, it is a great Rom, I am just a photography phanatic and love having Flickr on Blinkfeed.
Hey guys, I'm getting ready to upgrade to the AT&T M9, coming from the AT&T One X (Evita, yes from three years ago). Just looking for some clarification/verification of what I "think" I know regarding phone versions and ROM's to support my ORD.
Q1 - With the M9, the international and AT&T versions are the same hardware, so ROM's from the international forum can be flashed to the AT&T version, correct?
(Not the case with the One X since the international phone was a different model).
Q2 - What are the advantages of converting to the Dev edition? If I can bootloader unlock and S-off the AT&T phone, doesn't it essentially achieve the same purpose?
(Maybe I am missing something here... just curious, as there seems to be a lot of interest/discussion on the dev edition for the M9. Normally, I would just bootloader unlock, s-off, and then flash away - want to make sure I am not overlooking some benefit).
Thanks for any input - it was a lot less options being confined to just one forum with the Evita.
Mark
One X (unlocked, s-off)
Currently running KarbonKat 1.2-3
I just got the AT&T One M9. So far its great, my only two complaints are battery life isnt too great, and it heats up pretty fast.
anyway, There really is no difference between the Dev and the ATT one. they both run the same hardware. I achieved unlock through the HTC Dev website, and S-Off through Sunshine. Also, the ATT one can be converted to the international or Dev edition.
Im running Android Revolution HD 5.1 on my ATT M9 perfectly fine rite now much smooth than stock ATT RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-one-m9/general/att-developer-edition-ruu-how-to-t3086948
A1. Once you s-off yes you can flash International Roms.
A2. The only two advantages to converting to the Developer Edition is.
1. You will get OTA updates from HTC directly not wait until AT&T decides to send them out. So faster OTA updates
2. No Carrier bloatware apps.
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Thank you, gentlemen!
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A1. Once you s-off yes you can flash International Roms.
A2. The only two advantages to converting to the Developer Edition is.
1. You will get OTA updates from HTC directly not wait until AT&T decides to send them out. So faster OTA updates
2. No Carrier bloatware apps.
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even when rooted, custom recovery, and S-Off?
Quadrider10 said:
I just got the AT&T One M9. So far its great, my only two complaints are battery life isnt too great, and it heats up pretty fast.
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Please describe your battery life experience. Thanks.
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I'm going to Italy and wondering if I can put a Italian prepaid sim in the phone and it will work? Or should I flash to the international version? I have converted to the dev version already.