Can someone explain the current situation with 4G not working after unlocking the boot-loader I believe and will that be fixed anytime soon ?
Don't quote my on this, im NOT at all a dev. But i believe its something to do with the RSA Keys getting screwed up when unlocking bootloader, and i know that there are a few devs working on a fix and we generally don't push them for an ETA, they are working on it in their spare time and we are more than thankful they're working on stuff for our photons. Again im not a dev so don't quote me on the RSA Keys, just something i read a while back and *believe* is the issue, if im wrong feel free to correct me and correctly answer the OP's question. If your wanting to have a rom and still have 4g, theres a longer process you can go through to maintain 4g and still have a rom, but is a long process from what ive heard. Ill post link to it below if your interested.
Maintain 4g with Alien(or any rom)
Jo_795 said:
Can someone explain the current situation with 4G not working after unlocking the boot-loader I believe and will that be fixed anytime soon ?
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I wouldnt ask for an ETA but the devs are great, it'll be out before you know it!
If I understand correctly, 4G is just Sprint's CDMA WIMax? I'm getting a Photon for use on my carriers GSM network and they don't have LTE or anything (just HSDPA/HSUPA I think).
So losing "4G" when unlocking wouldn't affect me correct?
0mfgroflmao said:
If I understand correctly, 4G is just Sprint's CDMA WIMax? I'm getting a Photon for use on my carriers GSM network and they don't have LTE or anything (just HSDPA/HSUPA I think).
So losing "4G" when unlocking wouldn't affect me correct?
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correct.
hopefully you're not intending on using a US GSM network since they're currently 'locked'...
chibucks said:
correct.
hopefully you're not intending on using a US GSM network since they're currently 'locked'...
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No I read up on that, I'm going to be using it in little ol' New Zealand
DethMetalz69 said:
I wouldnt ask for an ETA but the devs are great, it'll be out before you know it!
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well i just wanted to know the current situation of it and why does it screw up. I want to flash CM7 but yea I'm waiting on that fix
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I hate AT&T but I do like the Atrix. If I manage to unlock it, I know I will be able to connect to T-Mobile's edge network, but is there any chance it would be able to connect to T-Mobile's 3G and 4G networks? Before anyone says no out of hand remember an unlocked Vibrant can connect to AT&T's 3G network.
I know this seems like a dumb question but I really do hate AT&T and would rather stick with my Nexus S on T-Mobile than use an Atrix on AT&T. So I'm hoping that the unlikely possibilty exists that I can use the Atrix on T-Mobile's network.
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I hate AT&T but I do like the Atrix. If I manage to unlock it, I know I will be able to connect to T-Mobile's edge network, but is there any chance it would be able to connect to T-Mobile's 3G and 4G networks? Before anyone says no out of hand remember an unlocked Vibrant can connect to AT&T's 3G network.
I know this seems like a dumb question but I really do hate AT&T and would rather stick with my Nexus S on T-Mobile than use an Atrix on AT&T. So I'm hoping that the unlikely possibilty exists that I can use the Atrix on T-Mobile's network.
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Short answer...NO.
I was afraid that would be the answer, but out of curiosity you said the short answer was no, is there a long answer that is yes?
peto.dragoumanos said:
I was afraid that would be the answer, but out of curiosity you said the short answer was no, is there a long answer that is yes?
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lol, you don't give up do you? Well it's still no. This phone was not built with AWS bands in mind, which are 1700/2100mhz. In case of the Vibrant, I guess Samsung wanted more world support and offer the 1900mhz which is also supported by AT&T. Either way you take it, it's just not going work.
I suggest you wait for now, your Nexus S will keep you happy until T-Mobile gets some dual core love as well. Just try and be patient, sometimes this pays off in the end ..
Besides, you have more dev support right now, so go flash some ROMs.
Thanks, for taking the time to answer my question with such great detail. I will stick with my Nexus S for sure now. I knew it was a longshot when I posted but a guy can hope.
peto.dragoumanos said:
Thanks, for taking the time to answer my question with such great detail. I will stick with my Nexus S for sure now. I knew it was a longshot when I posted but a guy can hope.
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Haha no problem..good luck, maybe things will change in a few weeks ..anyway all the best!
I think that is good news.
So just a thought, surely their GSM radio is not locked down to Domestic GSM networks - wonder if we can steal their radio image and pop a sim card in???
Just a thought since its been a fairly hot topic.
Best news I've heard all day! Anything to bring the photon to a much wider audience.
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So just a thought, surely their GSM radio is not locked down to Domestic GSM networks - wonder if we can steal their radio image and pop a sim card in???
Just a thought since its been a fairly hot topic.
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Anyone know if RSD Lite is capable of flashing a new radio image? If it is, I'll test flashing that to my phone. Although I'd still need a SIM card to test out.
Well now i know to hold onto my phone when im in Japan. One time i left my EVO next to me at the airport, and she flew away. not like they can use that phone there, but they will sure know what a Photon is. ha ha
yeah that would be one fast easy solution to unlocking the domestic GSM radios. be interesting if that works. and if it does.... lets see if the people who offered money on the bounty pay up lol
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Anyone know if RSD Lite is capable of flashing a new radio image? If it is, I'll test flashing that to my phone. Although I'd still need a SIM card to test out.
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Yes provided the files themselves aren't modified in any way to disrupt the signature if someone can get me the sbf I can make a radio only sbf
Great, I'm heading to Japan on Friday and hopefully I won't have any issues.
It is today. Hoping for good news @[email protected]
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I think that is good news.
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Has anybody tried to flash radio from Desire to Thunderbolt in order to get that ***** running on wcdma/gsm in London for example??? I'm new to IT with mechanical background so asking what makes sense to me... Also would ROM from Desire work on TB or am i talking about "jet engine on a bike"????
Please help i really need to have TB running in UK
If you want to carry around a large 4.3" paperweight, then feel free.
Not much help it was ha ha
How high the risk of bricking, is it 100%???
Doubt a rom will boot, but won't brick it. You'll just end up having to reflash a compatible rom. Radio on the other hand... I wouldn't attempt.
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I know on my dinc i used evo radios, but the tbolt is a different animal
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did it work fine, was it same type of broadband as the original???
I think you're forgetting those are 3g phones. If you flash a 3g only radio on the thunderbolt, it's not going to work out. Maybe the rezound would work because it has the same LTE chipset, but I'm skeptical and it's not something I'd really want to try.
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I think you're forgetting those are 3g phones. If you flash a 3g only radio on the thunderbolt, it's not going to work out. Maybe the rezound would work because it has the same LTE chipset, but I'm skeptical and it's not something I'd really want to try.
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Im not forgetting, its why i said tbolt was a different animal
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do you think should just try finding someone that wants a thunderbolt in exchange for another android that is supporting 3G????
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I think you're forgetting those are 3g phones. If you flash a 3g only radio on the thunderbolt, it's not going to work out. Maybe the rezound would work because it has the same LTE chipset, but I'm skeptical and it's not something I'd really want to try.
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Second generation LTE chipset not the same, if you want to be a guinea pig for the rest of us go ahead...let us know what you find out.
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Second generation LTE chipset not the same, if you want to be a guinea pig for the rest of us go ahead...let us know what you find out.
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Sorry...neither phone has a "second generation" LTE chipset. They're both using the Qualcomm MDM9600 LTE chipset.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/rezound-verizon#tech-specs
http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon#tech-specs
Also happens to be the same one in the ipad3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5661/the-new-ipad-4g-contains-qualcomms-mdm9600
How do i tell what generation mine belongs to??? Do you have and data i could match up with my phone to see what generation it is???
svetlyak said:
How do i tell what generation mine belongs to??? Do you have and data i could match up with my phone to see what generation it is???
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Sorry just didn't see your post for some reason until now
Rezound seems to be working fine with GSM radios and UMTS too...
So what is that thats missing in thunderbolt for same functionality is it just soft or hard ware as well???
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Rezound seems to be working fine with GSM radios and UMTS too...
So what is that thats missing in thunderbolt for same functionality is it just soft or hard ware as well???
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I honestly don't think its been officially tried. No kind of previous docs stating "oh noooo, bricked my phone" or "wont boot" nothing. Just angry mods saying "if that worked, they would've let you know by now"
Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
Yeah took us a few attempt's to go in to space, another few to land on moon....
if i'll go ahead and try it out would you guys suggest a phone that is related to thunder bolt the most(hardware/sofware wise)??? Is it Resound or is it DesireHD???
i hate it that only a few ppl have the thunderbolt outside of the us or a zone without a CDMA company im from Romania and i did unlock the phone using the XTC - Clip but the radio...its messy i tried to change it to gsm and it just returns to the previous selected thing...i tried shutting down radio then selecting GSM and then turning it on ...it stayed GSM but no signal
Any of the GSM abilities outside of LTE in the chipset for the device would be locked by the radio firmware. Firmware is of course proprietary to Verizon and modding it is technically illegal I believe. That doesn't mean you can't go and try to flash something from another device, but I'm not going to be the one to try it. Only one worth trying is the rezound though. I'm not an expert on radios in embedded devices, but if the radio is isolated totally from the system, then I don't see why it would not work as the higher level RIL libraries on the Rezound are the same.
However, don't take my word for it and run and flash and blame me if it bricks of course
Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
I'm an American living in Japan and I just bought my first smart phone...the EVO 3D (3G) for AU by KDDI...I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
Their non-3G network was CDMA...so I assume that their 3G is also CDMA....can anyone confirm that?
Under that assumption (CDMA), we're still waiting for ICS, so I'm wondering what you'd all recommend I upgrade my phone to while I wait. I'm not a fan of the stock Android 2.3 that came on the phone, and I'd really like ICS....but if there is something I could use now, that might be fine with me.
Also, what are the basic steps I need to follow, I found the sticky thread in the dev forum, but I'm not sure what stickies would apply to my situation. I'm guessing I'd have to start with a root kit, and go from there....but please fill in the gaps, thanks
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Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
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Is there evidence to confirm that ''noobs'' have been mentally assaulted for asking questions on this forum?
Just being playful after watching the required "noob" registration video
Lol I see.
Chances are that you will not be able to activate any CMDA phone from overseas on a network here in the USA. The big networks like verizon and sprint will not allow foreign IMEI numbers to be submitted to their system for activation.
Do you happen to know what frequency the cdma network you came from runs on? Look behind the battery
miahallen said:
Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
I'm an American living in Japan and I just bought my first smart phone...the EVO 3D (3G) for AU by KDDI...I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
Their non-3G network was CDMA...so I assume that their 3G is also CDMA....can anyone confirm that?
Under that assumption (CDMA), we're still waiting for ICS, so I'm wondering what you'd all recommend I upgrade my phone to while I wait. I'm not a fan of the stock Android 2.3 that came on the phone, and I'd really like ICS....but if there is something I could use now, that might be fine with me.
Also, what are the basic steps I need to follow, I found the sticky thread in the dev forum, but I'm not sure what stickies would apply to my situation. I'm guessing I'd have to start with a root kit, and go from there....but please fill in the gaps, thanks
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When I had AU by KDDI when I was living in Japan is was CDMA. As far as I am aware the Japanese version wasn't able to be rooted using the CDMA methods here in the development forum. Also the ROMs here would not work on your device and would actually need to be slightly modified to include files from your device to work, but you don't have an ICS ROM to use for replacing files.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Chances are that you will not be able to activate any CMDA phone from overseas on a network here in the USA. The big networks like verizon and sprint will not allow foreign IMEI numbers to be submitted to their system for activation.
Do you happen to know what frequency the cdma network you came from runs on? Look behind the battery
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I don't need to use it in the states...I live in Japan
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When I had AU by KDDI when I was living in Japan is was CDMA. As far as I am aware the Japanese version wasn't able to be rooted using the CDMA methods here in the development forum. Also the ROMs here would not work on your device and would actually need to be slightly modified to include files from your device to work, but you don't have an ICS ROM to use for replacing files.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Thanks Dastin, I guess I'll have to wait for something official
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I don't need to use it in the states...I live in Japan
Thanks Dastin, I guess I'll have to wait for something official
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That's kind of the conclusion I came to, after running through all the different root/unlock methods, I came across issues in every single one, and my skill / confidence isn't high enough to really make a go at figuring it out.
Only thing I haven't really attempted is downgrading from hboot 1.5 to 1.4, partially because my software version is different from the instructions, and soft bricking the phone makes me nervous considering the potential incompatibilities.
I think our phone is more or less the same as the sprint phone, just on the Japanese frequency. I'm hoping that the sprint announcement means we will also be getting ICS soon... but who knows
In reference to THIS thread about unlocking the GSM to enable the use of a sim card from a US carrier, I was wondering if the phone works exactly the same once I actually switch it to GSM (mainly data) and does it depend on which carrier I switch to. I wonder which one would work best with this phone.
Well anyway I tried reading into the steps to make sure I understood before I even begin to tamper with it but im still unsure and nowhere near tech savvy and im sure I will find a way to screw it up. I was wondering if anyone can :fingers-crossed: OH SO KINDLY!! walk me through these steps or at least the parts I have major trouble with.. I would appreciate it.
I HOPE IM NOT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH.!! Any help at all would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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In reference to THIS thread about unlocking the GSM to enable the use of a sim card from a US carrier, I was wondering if the phone works exactly the same once I actually switch it to GSM (mainly data) and does it depend on which carrier I switch to. I wonder which one would work best with this phone.
Well anyway I tried reading into the steps to make sure I understood before I even begin to tamper with it but im still unsure and nowhere near tech savvy and im sure I will find a way to screw it up. I was wondering if anyone can :fingers-crossed: OH SO KINDLY!! walk me through these steps or at least the parts I have major trouble with.. I would appreciate it.
I HOPE IM NOT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH.!! Any help at all would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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there are many threads on how to do this.. more than one and its not that hard... root,, unlock, and then flash japanese radio. If you have new 2.3.5 firmware you are out of luck until someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader. Bootloader MUST be unlocked before you can flash japanese radio.
How do I know which firmware I have?
What about data, will it work with an unlimited everything plan?
RunningRebel said:
How do I know which firmware I have?
What about data, will it work with an unlimited everything plan?
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Settings, about phone, android version.
And yes, everything should work just fine. Only thing is I heard there is something wrong with using it on t mobile. Something about 3g I think.
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