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Hello,
I went through two car chargers and found out that they are not really charging, or if they are its very super slow. I also found the same thing happens when active sync is on. I know on kaiser there is an option that enables/disables charging, but no option exists on AP3.0. So, is there a trick to this or what ?
Thanks.
I have found that you need a specific charger for the Advantage to get anything above trickle charge. On an Advantage, trickle charge is not enough to charge the device whilst it is in use i.e. it will still discharge even if a little more slowly. I initially used an HP charger from another device with the Advantage in my car and this is exactly what happened. I got a proper one for the Advantage and the device charges without difficulty even with all the radios, GPS, etc. on. This proper charger was not HTC badged but was designed for the Advantage. I am sure it is something to do with clever circuitry in the device or the charger that switches charging to trickle if it doesn't recognise the device it is connected to.
Hope this helps.
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What charger did you get? Any source is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
marek101 said:
What charger did you get? Any source is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I believe you need to make sure the charger puts out 1.5 Amps. Somebody know if this is correct? My Dell Axim needed that much to charge and run GPS.
Brad
Hi there,
I bought the charger in the following link:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/HTC_Accessories/HTC_Advantage/HTC_ADVANTAGE_CAR_CHARGER.html
Cheap, and worked perfectly. I also bought the car mount from here.
no wonder, why my phone seems never to charger
I just use an inverter and the normal adapter with mine Cost me £20 a couple of years ago, but means I can charge my ameo, laptop, phone, or any other device I choose using standard charger. Saved me loads in the long run
the designed charger for the Ameo is 1 amp, a usb car, charger will only be about 0.5 amp, this is probably why its slower. I can charge my niki no problem, but my ipaq and ameo take all day in the car. I think inverters are on special at maplin at the moment. probably a cheaper way for me to charge everything in the car.
I had this problem and bought the following charger, it works a treat !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-AMP-IN-CAR-...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
sometimes if your charger is aftermarket it dosen't work. happens with me with mp3 playerz too
guys the charger has to be 2 amp and better for u to maintain a charge while running everything (gps, bluetooth, wifi) especially if u get hsdpa signal. Oh this is my first post ever from the Advantage.
tootallk2000 said:
guys the charger has to be 2 amp and better for u to maintain a charge while running everything (gps, bluetooth, wifi) especially if u get hsdpa signal. Oh this is my first post ever from the Advantage.
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I actually disagree, I can do all that while being plugged into a regular electric outlet and the output rating for that charger is 5V 1Amp. So a 1A Car charger will do just fine.
marek101 said:
I actually disagree, I can do all that while being plugged into a regular electric outlet and the output rating for that charger is 5V 1Amp. So a 1A Car charger will do just fine.
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Hi
I Disagree, Because i have bought two car charger with 1Amp both did not worked. Then i bought a 2Amp car charger it worked perfectly.
Therefore i think it will need 2Amp car charger to charge and give power to GPS, Bluetooth, etc. 1Amp may charge your Athena but it need to switched off(put into standby)
Thanks
This question has been discussed before in this forum. Look at this thread.
Put special attention to post #5. It seems that HTC uses one pin of the mini-usb connector (it has 5 pins while standar usb connector need only 4) to differentiate between charger and sync.
If the charger does not have this pin configured correctly , the athena thinks that it is a connection form a PC and does not start the fast charging.
Other option is to use a special adaptor like the one from PPC Tech (PPC Techs HTC Advantage Lil Sync DUO Mini-5 USB Adapter avaliable on expansys), that allows you to enable fast charging with any charger (minimun 1A). I have used it successfully with several car chargers.
Reminds me of this discussion http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-Typhoon-Variants-Typhoon-MoDaCo-com/115090/Car-Charger/
Still doesn't charge enough even w/ HTC charger
Yes. The pin configuration is different for the Athena. Yes, it needs higher amperage to charge. However, even when taking all these things into account, there's still a problem.
I bought the HTC car charger precisely to avoid the problem of undercharging / pin misconfiguration. Yet, I still have problems. Whenever I drive long distances (4 hrs +, vacation, etc.), I generally have the gps running along with bluetooth for my ear piece (in case of phone calls), and I have an mp3 player going for tunes (running off the MD). Since it's generally a bright, sunny day, I also have the screen at full brightness (otherwise you can't see it at all.) Even with the HTC charger which is listed as the one designed for the Athena, my unit will die within 4 hours.
I realize that this is alot of juice, but it still annoys me that the charger can't keep up with the unit it was designed for. I imagine it wouldn't last that long if I had the gprs and/or wifi (not that I'd have wifi going while I drive anyway) running, too.
My question is: Do you think it's the screen or the MD which is sucking up all the juice? I've taken to letting the screen shut off (an option on many mp3 players), if I'm on the freeway and don't need the gps for a while. But to be honest, I haven't taken any really long trips to test this approach.
BTW, it's not a problem with the charger. I've got 2 of them, and the same thing happens with both.
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Yes. The pin configuration is different for the Athena. Yes, it needs higher amperage to charge. However, even when taking all these things into account, there's still a problem.
I bought the HTC car charger precisely to avoid the problem of undercharging / pin misconfiguration. Yet, I still have problems. Whenever I drive long distances (4 hrs +, vacation, etc.), I generally have the gps running along with bluetooth for my ear piece (in case of phone calls), and I have an mp3 player going for tunes (running off the MD). Since it's generally a bright, sunny day, I also have the screen at full brightness (otherwise you can't see it at all.) Even with the HTC charger which is listed as the one designed for the Athena, my unit will die within 4 hours.
I realize that this is alot of juice, but it still annoys me that the charger can't keep up with the unit it was designed for. I imagine it wouldn't last that long if I had the gprs and/or wifi (not that I'd have wifi going while I drive anyway) running, too.
My question is: Do you think it's the screen or the MD which is sucking up all the juice? I've taken to letting the screen shut off (an option on many mp3 players), if I'm on the freeway and don't need the gps for a while. But to be honest, I haven't taken any really long trips to test this approach.
BTW, it's not a problem with the charger. I've got 2 of them, and the same thing happens with both.
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I don't have problem like yours. I always have my backlight adjusted to the brightest. I keep all my applications on MD (which means it's spinning most of the time). With GPS running and music playing, my device will give charged to the fullest and stay that way very very quickly. I use the standard HTC charger. Only thing is I don't use bluetooth, so I'm not sure how much this would influence it.
Don't know what the current is, but my Brodit Active mount charges my Athena quickly even with everything turned on- used mainly for Sat-Nav with screen on full bright/ no sleep during day.
Trickle charge from the PC USB takes forever!
NeilM said:
Don't know what the current is, but my Brodit Active mount charges my Athena quickly even with everything turned on- used mainly for Sat-Nav with screen on full bright/ no sleep during day.
Trickle charge from the PC USB takes forever!
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I have the same experience with the Brodit.
I’m using the supplied HTC car charger, for an hour journey,
with only backlight full and GPS it charged but very small increment.
when using my phone in the car, i have the phone stream bluetooth to the cars stereo for audio, and navigation, i used the headunits built in usb to charge the phone wilst doing this, and noticed that at the end of a 4 hour journey, the batter had drained from 98% to 23%. So i bought a samsung in car charger and spent hours installing it with now wires around the front (im very perticular about this) and im still on a negative charge. Im running cognition s2 v1.31, and using poweramp for audio (only one that seems to work with a2dp) and copilot/google maps for navigation. When i run these programs, if i hit task manager it says there only using around 14% cpu each, so why on earth would it be getting a negative charge?
How about if you try and use none or maybe just one function of phone whilst on charge cable and see how battery performs.
Next check I would is to use charger in another car and see if the problem is in the hole in the car where you put the charger.
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When i run these programs, if i hit task manager it says there only using around 14% cpu each, so why on earth would it be getting a negative charge?
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Is the display on all the time? That's usually what drains the most battery when combined with navigation.
This phone consumes too much power for running and charging in your case. Ordinary USB chargers use to provide no more than 500mA. It's not enough. You need much more. Just to try something more powerful - like iPhone 4 usb car charger. Probably it will solve your problem.
Well, ive gone and bought a charger rated at 1000ma, and it doesnt loose as much yet its still a negative charge, he screen is on consantly. After more heavy testing, using pwer amp only streaming audio was fine, it charged pretty quick, using google maps only, it charged, not as quick but it did, same with copilot, what annoys me is i came from an iphone 4, and was able to use tomtom as well as streaming bluetooth and it used o charge pretty quick, and never get nearly as warm, im so contemplating selling the sgs2 nd going back to iphone
Its already been documented. This phone pulls more power than the charger supplies. This is limited in the kernel so nothing you can do other than not use the phone that hard.
I've got a strange issue. When charging with my stock AC adapter, it charges about 40%/hr (according to Gsam). If I try a 2A charger I can get over 60%/hr. I have three car chargers, I notice each one charges at more like 5-10%/hr. When using Navigation with the screen off, I discharge at around 20%/hr. With the screen on, it jumps to 40-60%/hr.
All my car chargers came with the data pins shorted. When I plug in, it says "Charging (AC)". I don't think my car is the issue because my friend tried charging his Iphone with my charger and it didn't seem to work, but when he pulled out his, it charged much faster.
I remember that in the past, I was able to use the Nav while with my car charger and it would last all day on long road trips. With the charger in and running Nav, I might go up some small amount, like 1%/hr. Now, with the car charger in, I'm still losing and lucky if I get more than an hour or so.
The only conclusion I can think of is that recent versions of Nav or something with CM11 is drawing much more power. Although I've had this issue for at least the past year
Hello everybody!
I've got two questions:
Since I'll be receiving my direly awaited S6 Edge 64gb tomorrow, I have two questions which I couldn't really get any good answers for.
The first one is about the speed of charging. Since the battery in the S6E can't be switched so easy, I'm a bit concerned about battery health, especially since I plan on using the phone for a long time (budget is tight). Now with my last phone (which unfortunately I had to sell in order to come up with the money for the S6E) I used one of my computers USB ports to charge the phone over night. I read somewhere, that it's better for the battery to be charged slowly and since my computer powers the front USB even when switched off, I always used it to slowly charge the phone overnight. It would be faster charging with a wall outlet, but I didnt need it to, so I figured it would be beneficial for the health of the battery.
Is that actually true? Is there maybe even some way to keep the phone from charging higher than 80%?
My second question is about wireless charging. I'd really like to get a wireless charger for my desk at work, however I will be using this ->
*cant post the link, it's the "Galaxy S6 Edge Case, Spigen [CURVED BUMPER] Neo Hybrid Series Case for Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge - Satin Silver (SGP11420)" case
case on the phone. Are there any wireless chargers, that will go "through" that case?
If so, do these chargers charge so fast, that they let the battery health deteriorate? Do they stop charging when the battery is full or is there danger for overcharging or heat building up because of the case?
Thank you guys very much in advance for answers, I'm just really looking forward to the phone and I'm eager to do everything right ^^:fingers-crossed:
You shouldn't worry really. There are rampant unjustified myths about quick-charging. If your device is designed for that feature, the processor and software work in conjunction to prevent damage to the battery. The turbo charger provides large amperage to charge quickly, then reduces at an appropriate level. I've used turbo or quick charging since the Motorola Droid Maxx 4 years ago. Today, those Maxx still function as well as the first day. I do not purchase any device that does not have turbo charging. As far as wireless charging, a decent charging plate should have no issue. I use only TYLT and I build furniture around these things. I put glass top over them and never have problems charging.
Thanks so much
Do all the wireless chargers feature "Turbo charging", or do you mean charging with a wall outlet by that?
I've read in some reviews, that in combination with the S6, the tylt charger tends to fully charge the phone, then stop charging, then after a while commences charging again, leading to the phone screen lighting up and the "phone is charging" notification sound playing, then turning off again when the battery is fully charged and so on.
Did you experience any of this?
@myh0mie I guess we are in the same state, I'm also receiving my S6 Edge on tuesday and have been having the same questions as you have about charging this thread will come in handy
@quangtran1 If you use the fast charger on your S6 Edge, are you also experiencing the screen rotation issues people are suggesting that are caused by the fast charger? I really wanna know how i should be charging my phone to avoid damage once i receive it. Thanks in advance
I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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Oh cool then it's good to hear that it seems like it's NOT the fast charger that causing the issue and the fact that Samsung already has a solution to it
I haven't had a screen rotation issue either, on a 64GB Edge (AT&T).
As far as methods of charging, seems like the "Adaptive Fast Charging" is definitely the fastest way to charge the phone. The feature only seems to work with the packaged charger, though. I have a few 5V 2Amp chargers that don't charge my phone as fast as the packaged Samsung charger. It's extremely effective when you're very low on battery life, below 25%.
If you look at the Samsung charger label, it says it outputs at 9V 1.67Amp OR 5V 2Amp. The 5V 2A is standard on many chargers. The 9V 1.67A must be the Adaptive Fast Charging.
For wireless charging, I purchased a few PowerBot Qi chargers (very good price and reviews on Amazon) and supplied them with 5V 2A power to keep myself topped off at work and overnight. To me, they seem to charge the phone at about the same speed as a generic 5V 1A power source.
My last phone was a HTC One M7 and I kept a close eye on the temperature with an app called Cool Tool. I still run the M7 in the same operating environment as my S6 and have noticed that the S6 runs 10-15 degrees (Fahrenheit) cooler than the M7 in both charging and non-charging states. Hope that helps.
I have the S6 edge with the TYLT desk charger and the TYLT car charger dock. Neither of them charge the phone quickly at all. I am not a fan of either really, but I use the desk charger on my desk at work and it is fine to keep the phone topped up throughout the work day (I forget it's even there). The car one, however, is going back. It charges hellishly slow, especially if you run any tasks like music streaming or GPS. Not a fan.
My H850 frequently stops accepting charge, and then allows the battery to discharge to empty even with the charger connected. When I put it on the charger at the end of the day I hear the charging tone and it starts to charge, but in the morning the charge level is lower than when I connected it, and occasionally the battery is completely empty.
I've checked the charger and battery contacts and can't see any sign of lint or other debris. The charger and cable both work fine with a tablet, so I assume they're fine.
Any ideas??
Your battery has gone bad. Purchasing a new one on Amazon or ebay is your best option.
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My H850 frequently stops accepting charge, and then allows the battery to discharge to empty even with the charger connected. When I put it on the charger at the end of the day I hear the charging tone and it starts to charge, but in the morning the charge level is lower than when I connected it, and occasionally the battery is completely empty.
I've checked the charger and battery contacts and can't see any sign of lint or other debris. The charger and cable both work fine with a tablet, so I assume they're fine.
Any ideas??
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Sounds like a possible bad usb port on the charging chin. Or battery does it break connections if jiggled around?
I have the same problem with my spare battery (which I bought a few months ago as part of the LG kit). Interestingly I have a Qualcomm 3.0 certified Anker charger on my desktop which seems to keep it charged fine overnight, so maybe it's just a problem with non-certified chargers (although it was working fine until a couple of weeks ago).
The USB battery connection seems OK - if I jiggle it around I don't lose the charging connection. But then when it's charging overnight it's always sitting still on a flat surface, and I check that it's charging as soon as I lay it down.