the capacitive buttons on my 3d are ridiculously sensitive! i dont even have to make contact with the glass to make them register as a button press, hovering over them is enough....
its getting rather annoying and im hoping the screen protector i ordered would help it a bit but does anyone else have the same problem?
Nope but I have a zagg on mine... Sometimes it seems I have to press the home button more firmly than others tho
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Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
vinterchaos said:
Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
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it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
thesparky007 said:
it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
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Yeah. Pretty freaking sensitive for me as well. Can be annoying sometimes.
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i noticed it too
Also noticed that sometimes when i press, it senses my finger a bit below where i touch. but maybe it's just a problem i have with my fingers :/
I have the same problem with mine too, and i have a ZAGG on it. It annoys the crap outta me. But what can we do?
even with the screen protector, i still find that hovering will prompt a keystroke. another qualm that i have with the phone is the placement of the sensitive power button up top.. being left handed, i seem to be finding it often by mistake.
That's the one thing I never liked about HTC phones, they love to use capacitive buttons. I prefer a mechanical one that can't so easily accidently be touched.
My capacitive buttons are also very sensitive (just like my power button ). Sometimes it is annoying when I bump/hover over the home key in the middle of what I'm doing. Over all, I think the entire screen is more sensitive than the Evo OG, because there have been a number of times when my screen has registered a touch when I thought I was only hovering.
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
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i hope so too because this hinders regular use quite a bit
The capacitive buttons are overly sensitive with my screen protector on, too. It seems like the buttons have too much juice running to them altogether. (Being too bright and too sensitive.)
On another note; Everyone always talks about their over-sensitive power button, but mine is completely the opposite and hard to find and push sometimes. Especially in the otterbox commuter case, which I'd have to recommend if you have that issue.
It looks like the screen is actually pressure sensitive at least done with finger or such devices. All you need is to use the right app which provides adjustable curves for pressure control.
Try using Ravioli Paint which lets you change the curvature and start painting drawing with you finger
This might be due to the size of press point as well, in any case it just feels like pressure control to me.
so the screen is "stupid" touch and needs palm recognition to proper write on it?
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so the screen is "stupid" touch and needs palm recognition to proper write on it?
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The screen has no palm rejection because the pen is mainly for the keyboard area.
When I say the screen is pressure sensitive I was referring a special use case where the pressure sensitivy of the screen (via touch) can be used to control pen thickness, opacity etc like the pen.
got that. so the "write on screen" as on SP4 is not possible but you need the virtual kbd in tablet mode?
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got that. so the "write on screen" as on SP4 is not possible but you need the virtual kbd in tablet mode?
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Yes the screen is not pressure sensitive to the pen, however you can use the pen on screen via "any pen". If you are into drawing the tablet area is far superior to SP4 ntrig, I used to have Surface Book and I hated it. The screen is nice the batter is great but the pen is piece of junk compared to wacom. It has no subtle sensing. I felt like I was drawing with a knife on a glass surface.
thanks. will get mine today. have an XP-Pen here. maybe I will try that for "any pen"
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thanks. will get mine today. have an XP-Pen here. maybe I will try that for "any pen"
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One nice thing about having a separate drawing area and no palm rejection on the screen is that you do not have to move your pen from the surface area to do finger gestures on the screen. WHen there is palm rejection you always have to move the pen away from the screen to use finger gestures or finger touchses since both wont work at the same time.
So I'm watching youtube on the dual screen using landscape and I want to sleep the main screen so i touch sleep main screen option on the dual screen tab tool, it shows a prompt saying main screen will dim to save battery and swipe to dismiss. I dont touch or swipe anything and the prompt swipes itself away and screen undims or sometimes doesn't even dim. This is also the case with Call of duty mobile, when I'm playing the game in battle royal mode the mini map enlarges randomly even if I don't touch it, and the voice chat options will engage and open without me touching those as well. Anyone else has this problem? Any solutions?
I could have sworn I saw a post earlier about ghost touches, though I can't seem to find the thread it was in at the moment.
I've been using the phone heavily since I got it on April 1st, and I have not experienced this issue at all.
Any chance you had an LG phone prior to this and used LG Switch to transfer over all of your stuff?
I've read reports here that doing so can cause some pretty serious battery drain and/or lag issues, so there could be other bugs as another side-effect.
Have you tried a factory reset?
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I could have sworn I saw a post earlier about ghost touches, though I can't seem to find the thread it was in at the moment.
I've been using the phone heavily since I got it on April 1st, and I have not experienced this issue at all.
Any chance you had an LG phone prior to this and used LG Switch to transfer over all of your stuff?
I've read reports here that doing so can cause some pretty serious battery drain and/or lag issues, so there could be other bugs as another side-effect.
Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
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Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
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I set aside the the dual-screen accessory because it's just too uncomfortable to hold for most use-cases.
I'll go dig it up, plug it in, and give it a shot later, when I have some free time, and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v60-thinq/help/phantom-home-button-presses-t4082573
Above is the link for the other thread.
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Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
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If you play a YT video on the second screen and lock/sleep your phone, the second screen goes to sleep as well.
I didn't bother with headphones for this test, and noticed that the audio comes out of the phone's speakers.
It appears that the second screen doesn't have speakers of its own.
So yeah, you cannot watch something on the second screen while having the phone asleep.
And it make sense. It's just a screen. No second pair of speakers. No second headphone jack. No separate battery. No second set of modems, etc.
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I set aside the the dual-screen accessory because it's just too uncomfortable to hold for most use-cases.
I'll go dig it up, plug it in, and give it a shot later, when I have some free time, and report back.
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It actually was working for me last night as far as the putting main screen to sleep function but call of duty still acts up I'm hoping the update for the game on May 1St will fix, but sure whenever you get a chance...
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It actually was working for me last night as far as the putting main screen to sleep function but call of duty still acts up I'm hoping the update for the game on May 1St will fix, but sure whenever you get a chance...
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I answered your YT question one post above yours that I just quoted.
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I answered your YT question one post above yours that I just quoted.
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Actually you CAN watch youtube on the second screen and sleep/dim the main screen by using the floating dual screen button. It has an option asking if you want to sleep dim the main screen to conserve battery life. It does work for me now, I'm not sure why it was going wonky on me when I first posted but hopefully that it doesn't do it anymore. I'm guessing the tmobile April security update did the trick. It's just I have phantom touches on call of duty still.
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This is also the case with Call of duty mobile, when I'm playing the game in battle royal mode the mini map enlarges randomly even if I don't touch it, and the voice chat options will engage and open without me touching those as well. Anyone else has this problem? Any solutions?
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This is happening to me as well when I'm playing PubG Mobile. The ghost touches are happening not on the map but to the left of that. On another LG V60, the device would get random dead zones as well.
I'm going to do the following test and suggest you do the same and report back your results.
1. wait until the ghost touches start happening and flip the phone around. hopefully the ghost touch continues to happen in the same exact location of the physical screen, and it triggers a different button
2. remove the screen protector and try the tests again
are you using a screen protector?
might process a warranty replacement if the results are reproduceable
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Actually you CAN watch youtube on the second screen and sleep/dim the main screen by using the floating dual screen button. It has an option asking if you want to sleep dim the main screen to conserve battery life. It does work for me now, I'm not sure why it was going wonky on me when I first posted but hopefully that it doesn't do it anymore. I'm guessing the tmobile April security update did the trick. It's just I have phantom touches on call of duty still.
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Oh, that is good to know. I'm not using the dual-screen attachment anymore (typing in portrait mode is IMPOSSIBLE with it), but I only ever used the Dual-Screen notification shade tile to enable the second screen, not the pill button thing. I should have explored our options more thoroughly. Thank you for correcting me.
Edit - I have recently added a tempered glass screen protector to my phone, and while it completely screwed with my fingerprint biometrics (I had to delete the fingerprints and redo them), the protector itself is not causing any ghost touches for me. And once I redid the fingerprints, there have been no further issues there either.
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This is happening to me as well when I'm playing PubG Mobile. The ghost touches are happening not on the map but to the left of that. On another LG V60, the device would get random dead zones as well.
I'm going to do the following test and suggest you do the same and report back your results.
1. wait until the ghost touches start happening and flip the phone around. hopefully the ghost touch continues to happen in the same exact location of the physical screen, and it triggers a different button
2. remove the screen protector and try the tests again
are you using a screen protector?
might process a warranty replacement if the results are reproduceable
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Yes I am using a screen protector and I was actually thinking that might be the problem, although it seems like a solid install. I just got the update for cod season 6 and I'm downloading now. I'll see if that solves the problem. I'll also try what you suggested and then post results
Update: so the cod update did not fix the issue, but I tried doing as you suggested and flipped the phone around and the problem went away. I then tried flipping it back to original and problem persisted. I think it is the tempered glass. I don't want to remove it since it cost me 40 bucks. Any suggestions?
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Oh, that is good to know. I'm not using the dual-screen attachment anymore (typing in portrait mode is IMPOSSIBLE with it), but I only ever used the Dual-Screen notification shade tile to enable the second screen, not the pill button thing. I should have explored our options more thoroughly. Thank you for correcting me.
Edit - I have recently added a tempered glass screen protector to my phone, and while it completely screwed with my fingerprint biometrics (I had to delete the fingerprints and redo them), the protector itself is not causing any ghost touches for me. And once I redid the fingerprints, there have been no further issues there either.
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So I installed the update for cod and it still had the ghost touch problem with the top right side of the screen, iflipped the phone per what jd254 suggested and I didn't get the phantom touches. I'm assuming it is the tempered glass that is causing it. I dont want to remove it cause it cost me 40 bucks.
2nd update: so I tried taking it out of the dual screen case and notice it doesn't have phantom touch ( I played a full game of battle royale) so I'm not sure if its the tempered glass or the case. Need to investigate more
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So I installed the update for cod and it still had the ghost touch problem with the top right side of the screen, iflipped the phone per what jd254 suggested and I didn't get the phantom touches. I'm assuming it is the tempered glass that is causing it. I dont want to remove it cause it cost me 40 bucks.
2nd update: so I tried taking it out of the dual screen case and notice it doesn't have phantom touch ( I played a full game of battle royale) so I'm not sure if its the tempered glass or the case. Need to investigate more
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Is the case touching the tempered glass anywhere around the the edges? If the case is pressing on the screen protector and lifting or peessing it even the smallest amount that could cause phantom touches maybe..just an idea
FWIW, I'm using both a tempered glass screen protector and a case that wraps around to grip the front of the phone a bit, and I'm not getting any phantom touches at all.
The case is NOT rubbing up against the edges of the screen protector, however. Which is fine, because if it were, it could potentially dislodge it.
Or, I suppose, cause phantom touches.
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Is the case touching the tempered glass anywhere around the the edges? If the case is pressing on the screen protector and lifting or peessing it even the smallest amount that could cause phantom touches maybe..just an idea
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Ok more investigating and playing codm I notice that the mini map opens up when i perform a touch combination with my thumbs. So the map gets triggered when I press and hold up on the left side virtual joystick to sprint and press the jump virtual button on the right simultaneously. I can't recreate what button presses open the voice chat box, but now I have to strike the dual case as being the problem along with the tempered glass, at least i assume those aren't causing the ghost touches.
For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
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For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
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Awesome thanks I forgot how to enable developer options...
Never mind developer option enabled
bilbo60 said:
For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
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I'm getting VERY interesting results.
1. dead spots: I moved my finger up the right side of the screen to look up. my character did not look up, which I would assume there was a dead spot before. This is incorrect. I can see the screen registered using that option mentioned above. the screen registered the action, but didn't pass it to the software?
2. FPS drops: I assume it's an FPS drop because everything was laggy when this happened. (PubG mobile was set to max settings, and runs 100% fine, until now) I was flying the helicopter, so I had several fingers on the screen at the same time, with a lot of rotational movements. the screen doesn't clear all of these movement data until I literally take all my fingers off the screen for half a sec. When I did that, it stop lagging.
3. ghost touches: Each touch on the screen has an x and y axis point to tell the software where it's being touched. With several finger on the screen (sometimes 2, but commonly with three or more), I noticed that the y axis for my left thumb and the x axis for my right thumb was creating those ghost touches! The screen would combine the x and y axis from different fingers to create a touchpoint on the screen.
so I don't care too much about 1 and 2, but... what can I do about 3?
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I'm getting VERY interesting results.
1. dead spots: I moved my finger up the right side of the screen to look up. my character did not look up, which I would assume there was a dead spot before. This is incorrect. I can see the screen registered using that option mentioned above. the screen registered the action, but didn't pass it to the software?
2. FPS drops: I assume it's an FPS drop because everything was laggy when this happened. (PubG mobile was set to max settings, and runs 100% fine, until now) I was flying the helicopter, so I had several fingers on the screen at the same time, with a lot of rotational movements. the screen doesn't clear all of these movement data until I literally take all my fingers off the screen for half a sec. When I did that, it stop lagging.
3. ghost touches: Each touch on the screen has an x and y axis point to tell the software where it's being touched. With several finger on the screen (sometimes 2, but commonly with three or more), I noticed that the y axis for my left thumb and the x axis for my right thumb was creating those ghost touches! The screen would combine the x and y axis from different fingers to create a touchpoint on the screen.
so I don't care too much about 1 and 2, but... what can I do about 3?
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Yeah I noticed a combination of touches triggers the ghost touch on call of duty, I could also be having the combinations trigger ghost touches in other game but I need to test more
I've bought a used S9+ like 3 days ago and run a QA test inside the phone. The screen was fine and it responds normally, however after 2 days I couldn't use a keyboard because of its issues while typing. Basically, when I'm typing a longer sentence, I have to either slow down or sometimes press a button 3-5 times for it to respond. It stared to occur yesterday and I don't know if that's the touch control issue or something with the display. P.S. I've tested it on Gboard, Samsung keyboard and Grammarly keyboard, all with the same issue.
Is there any fix I can do without paying for a new display? It will cost me the same amount of money as the phone itself.
Thanks!
Are you using a screen protector? If not, try it. Maybe touch sensitivity is turned on in display settings, try changing it to see if it's better. I've noticed that on some screen protectors, they retain a lot of humidity so I have to constantly clean the screen to get rid of "ghost touches"
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Are you using a screen protector? If not, try it. Maybe touch sensitivity is turned on in display settings, try changing it to see if it's better. I've noticed that on some screen protectors, they retain a lot of humidity so I have to constantly clean the screen to get rid of "ghost touches"
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No, I don't use any screen protectors. My phone has a Spigen case, which is slightly over the screen both at top and the bottom. I tried to turn on and off touch sensitivity and it didn't help. Funny part is that it sometimes stops and goes again.
Had this myself, especially with the space bar ?
Same here, have to press space up to three times (intermittent issue). Screen protector on, sensitivity does nothing.