Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
mkglitzman said:
Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
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I would say wait and see. I have been seeing other updates to 5.0 also updating the bootloader. Maybe a new exploit in there? I would wait to take the update until either A: It is confirmed that SS will/will not work or B: they find a new exploit to use.
Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
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Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
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Waiting on a boot.img so we can get the 5.01 GPE rom to run under safestrap ...
I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
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I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
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touchwizz is still crap tho
I can agree with that. I updated this morning. I'm disappointed that the s5 camera and the favorites in messenger didn't make it into the update, but I can't complain. It's still lollipop.
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I presume that this update loses (unpaid) WiFi tether?
Currently on rooted NG6 with tether modules on VZW unlimited. Keeping tether is the only mandatory feature for me.
Wait?
There are guides out there to upgrade and keep root.i would advise using one of those.
If you upgrade to the OTA OC1 you will be on another locked boot loader with no way to downgrade back to Kitkat if you don't like it.
Currently as it stands, there's no root for OTA OC1. There's also no Safestrap that will work with it and no way to Odin back to nc5 once you do the OTA upgrade.
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I must be missing the how-to thread, but I've searched and come up empty handed...
I have a Verizon S4 on 4.3 with root. Originally I had 4.2 rooted, did the procedure to keep root when I upgraded to 4.3, but now I cannot upgrade to 4.4.2 without removing root (the OTA fails).
How do I remove root from 4.3 so that I can take the OTA update? I found this thread here, however, the Stock Firmware Page only lists 4.2.2 as an option, not 4.3. I didn't want to brick my phone by flashing to 4.2.2.
Is this really the simplest way to make my rooted 4.3 take the OTA for 4.4.2?
Thanks!
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I must be missing the how-to thread, but I've searched and come up empty handed...
I have a Verizon S4 on 4.3 with root. Originally I had 4.2 rooted, did the procedure to keep root when I upgraded to 4.3, but now I cannot upgrade to 4.4.2 without removing root (the OTA fails).
How do I remove root from 4.3 so that I can take the OTA update? I found this thread here, however, the Stock Firmware Page only lists 4.2.2 as an option, not 4.3. I didn't want to brick my phone by flashing to 4.2.2.
Is this really the simplest way to make my rooted 4.3 take the OTA for 4.4.2?
Thanks!
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First of all, I would recommend staying at MK2. There are many reasons. If you REALLY want to goto 4.4.2, you have to open SuperSU and tap on Cleanup for permanent unroot. Then try taking the OTA.
EDIT: To get root back on 4.4.2, use towelroot.
EDIT 2: If you want to keep MK2 baseband but upgrade to 4.4.2, follow surges method.
Forgot to list that...I tried using SuperSU but it just sits there with the spinning circle forever and never says it has completed.
I have no real reason to go to 4.4.2, other than my desire to try the new OS...
xXsquirr3lsXx - Can you elaborate on why you recommend staying on MK2?
Code3VW - The other option you have is to ODIN the NC5 tar.
You could use the verizon repair tool , it will load the latest version of android and then use towelroot for root. I had the same problem on my wifes S3 and it worked and it is confirmed towelroot works on the S4.
richieroro said:
xXsquirr3lsXx - Can you elaborate on why you recommend staying on MK2?
Code3VW - The other option you have is to ODIN the NC5 tar.
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The very very very slim outside chance of finding a bootloader exploit...would most likely be found for pre - kitkat releases.
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decaturbob said:
The very very very slim outside chance of finding a bootloader exploit...would most likely be found for pre - kitkat releases.
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Hoping Dan releases something at blackhat... If nothing this i545 is going on Swappa.
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Guys...
SOrry if this is a poor post, but I'm still new to the gs4 on verizon.
When I got the phone about a week ago, It immediately took an OTA upgrade. I'm geussing this was a mistake?
Only reason I say this, is because i'm now on NC5, and it seems that I'm limited as to what I can do as far as ROMS.
However, I'm seeing that there are people on "MDK" which I'm assuming is an older base...are able to put whatever AOSP rom posted in the forum....
DO all phones comes with MDK base?
I can call them and ask to send a replacement....what are the chances its MDK?
A little help would be appreciated....Thanks!
Doubtful vzn has any phones left with mdk (I'm assuming, it was the original base when this phone came out last summer). If it makes you feel any better you were probably on mk2 4.3 when you took the upgrade, so you didn't really lose anything.
You can root, just no custom kernels, no custom recoveries, just safestrap. I'm running a Google play edition aosp 4.4.3 on safestrap and it runs pretty well. There's a thread in the general section.
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docluv01 said:
Guys...
SOrry if this is a poor post, but I'm still new to the gs4 on verizon.
When I got the phone about a week ago, It immediately took an OTA upgrade. I'm geussing this was a mistake?
Only reason I say this, is because i'm now on NC5, and it seems that I'm limited as to what I can do as far as ROMS.
However, I'm seeing that there are people on "MDK" which I'm assuming is an older base...are able to put whatever AOSP rom posted in the forum....
DO all phones comes with MDK base?
I can call them and ask to send a replacement....what are the chances its MDK?
A little help would be appreciated....Thanks!
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MDK bootloader was on the original GS4 and an exploit called loki was found that could bypass the bootloader lock so that you could root & install a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM & thereby flash both TouchWiz and AOSP roms. Thanks to Vzw /Att /Samsung, ota updates were issued that kills this exploit. All new phones are locked down. Can still root & use Safestrap recovery to flash TW based roms into a "sandbox" parallel system. Can't flash new kernels though.
Got it! Thanks
You know I looked at that ROM....considering giving it a try.,
Im on NC5 and SS, are there any issues with GPS etc?
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Doubtful vzn has any phones left with mdk (I'm assuming, it was the original base when this phone came out last summer). If it makes you feel any better you were probably on mk2 4.3 when you took the upgrade, so you didn't really lose anything.
You can root, just no custom kernels, no custom recoveries, just safestrap. I'm running a Google play edition aosp 4.4.3 on safestrap and it runs pretty well. There's a thread in the general section.
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docluv01 said:
Got it! Thanks
You know I looked at that ROM....considering giving it a try.,
Im on NC5 and SS, are there any issues with GPS etc?
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I have flashed several ss compatible kitkat roms and used gigilies nc2 wifi fix and never had issues with wifi or bluetooth or GPS
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Alright, so I have a Verizon Galaxy S4, with 4.4.2 and an NC5 bootloader, I have it safestrapped, running Hypedrive 20. I was all excited when I saw that there was a Lollipop ROM released, because I have been anxious to try it. I downloaded everything in the tutorial, only to see Does not work with safestrap! That is when I started searching frantically how to get CWM or TWRP running on my device, finding disappointment after disappointment
So, my question is, has there been any way found to downgrade the NC5 bootloader to MDK? I see some posts/articles on downgrading to MK2, but would that allow me to get a CWM/TWRP up and running? Or has there been any way found to unlock the bootloader for the NC5?
If all else fails, maybe somebody could chime in about making a safestrapable Lollipop rom?
Thanks for any and all help, I'm so anxious for Lollipop its ridiculous!
We are stuck using Safestrap. There is no way to go from nc5 to mdk. There are some hybrids roms and a few gpe roms that are Safestrap compatible. But that's it.
N4styN1ghtm4r3 said:
Alright, so I have a Verizon Galaxy S4, with 4.4.2 and an NC5 bootloader, I have it safestrapped, running Hypedrive 20. I was all excited when I saw that there was a Lollipop ROM released, because I have been anxious to try it. I downloaded everything in the tutorial, only to see Does not work with safestrap! That is when I started searching frantically how to get CWM or TWRP running on my device, finding disappointment after disappointment
So, my question is, has there been any way found to downgrade the NC5 bootloader to MDK? I see some posts/articles on downgrading to MK2, but would that allow me to get a CWM/TWRP up and running? Or has there been any way found to unlock the bootloader for the NC5?
If all else fails, maybe somebody could chime in about making a safestrapable Lollipop rom?
Thanks for any and all help, I'm so anxious for Lollipop its ridiculous!
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As of right now, there is absolutely no way to downgrade to MDK. Safestrap, and its limitations, is your only option. Believe me, if there was a way to Downgrade, you would, have found very easily.
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Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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N4styN1ghtm4r3 said:
Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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It would probably be difficult.
First of all, at this point, we don't even know if aosp 5.0 could run with safestrap with stock kernel. Andriod 4.4 and 4.2 could, but 4.3 couldn't. And also, a lot of the devs for the s4 have already left so there are fewer people to work on any potential rom. Its pretty depressing, no lie.
N4styN1ghtm4r3 said:
Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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The problem is we can only flash TW based roms through Safestrap. As I had mentioned before there are a couple of Google Play Edition roms that will flash bit are a bit buggy. The closest we'll probably come are hybrid roms that have some lollipop features to go with TW
Well, I guess we'll have to wait for the official upgrade, then go from there.
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I'm rooted in the stock Touchwiz but I want to install the Lollipop AOSP ROM. How can I unlock the bootloader and install that ROM?
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I'm rooted in the stock Touchwiz but I want to install the Lollipop AOSP ROM. How can I unlock the bootloader and install that ROM?
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Sorry, the Verizon, and AT&T variants of the Galaxy S4 bootloaders cannot be unlocked at the moment. For the time being it will be impossible for us to install Lollipop until the official firmware release by Samsung. However, if you have a older S4 it *may* have the loki vulnerability which let's you bypass the locked bootloader. Check your About Phone and see if your running MDB or MDL.
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Sorry, the Verizon, and AT&T variants of the Galaxy S4 bootloaders cannot be unlocked at the moment. For the time being it will be impossible for us to install Lollipop until the official firmware release by Samsung. However, if you have a older S4 it *may* have the loki vulnerability which let's you bypass the locked bootloader. Check your About Phone and see if your running MDB or MDL.
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Here's a picture of my about phone screen. Do I have any hope?
i.imgur.co m/9ACW5Qr.png
Sorry, can't post links yet.
theycallmeryan said:
Here's a picture of my about phone screen. Do I have any hope?.
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No dice for running Lollipop ROM's yet, however you should able to install Safestrap 3.75 and use custom 4.4.2 (and a few 4.4.4) TouchWiz-based ROM's that are floating around the forum. Poke around the threads in both the AT&T and Verizon subforums to find more information.
NighthawkXL said:
No dice for running Lollipop ROM's yet, however you should able to install Safestrap 3.75 and use custom 4.4.2 (and a few 4.4.4) TouchWiz-based ROM's that are floating around the forum. Poke around the threads in both the AT&T and Verizon subforums to find more information.
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Damn it, I wanted to ditch TouchWiz and try Lollipop. Been thinking of switching to iPhone and I wanted to see if Lollipop was worth sticking around for.
Hi,
I don't mean to bump old threads, but I was just wondering is it still not possible to unlock the bootloader on the the s3 i535 using android 4.4.2?
I just haven't seen any recent threads........
Any help is appreciated.
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I don't mean to bump old threads, but I was just wondering is it still not possible to unlock the bootloader on the the s3 i535 using android 4.4.2?
I just haven't seen any recent threads........
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Considering you're in the S4 forum, you're also unlikely to see any S3 threads in the future.
I'll bump this thread again since it applies. I'm on 4.4.2 NK1 can I unlock this bootloader? Should I just take the Lolipop update that keeps asking me to push through? What is my best step from here, I don't want to get stuck on something I hate.
Are there any better choices? I hate using ROM slots etc.
Thank you,
nobody here is responsible in any way if you break your phone. It was your fault. Figure it out yourself.
Before I begin, I would like to explain the usage of build numbers. There are 4 Kitkat firmwares and 2 Lollipop firmwares. The last three letters of the build number are used to identify the specific build (everything before that is device code stuff)
Kitkat builds are as follows:
NC5
NG6
NK1
NK4 (generally unused, as this was a preparation update for Lollipop)
Lollipop builds are as follows:
OC1
OF1
The easiest way to root is by being on a kitkat firmware and root the firmware itself using a kernel swap method, or downgrading to NC5 and using Towelroot.
OF1 IS ROOTABLE. CLICK HERE FOR INFO
OC1 is rootable through the usage of Kingroot (desktop version only): LINK HERE
YOU CAN NOT USE ANY CUSTOM RECOVERY (TWRP, CLOCKWORKMOD) WITH LOLLIPOP. NOT EVEN SAFESTRAP (it's too buggy and requires flashing the nc5 kernel to even get into)
(mdk users need not apply)
ROM info available in 2nd post.
Flashing ROMs
You can not flash CyanogenMod or any ROMs based off of its source code! Those are only for the MDK bootloader.
UPDATE: If you are on the OC1/OF1 bootloader, you can only flash TouchWiz Lollipop ROMs.
Two pretty solid ROMs for lollipop are:
[PORT][ROM] Albe95 S6 FULL PORT 4.6 [S6/Edge Plus/N5 FEATURE PORT] (UPDT 31/10/15)
stang5litre Ediition 5.0 OC1 MDK,SS,FF/OC1/OF1
I surely appreciate this post. Kit Pop was the only one that peaked My interest but after seeing this I will be back at it. The o.p.s often don't list if the rom is Safestrap compatible so I shy away.
Thanks
Nice write up and in for future updates on OC1 roms. Really hoping for an eclipse-style update to OC1. I hate touchwiz.
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Thanks
I can not get this goddamn Kingroot to work on OC1 Lollipop. Any suggestions guys? I've tried it a dozen times.
thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...
Nice.
I don't see Kitpop(I finally got my APN issues sorted out)
Someone Sticky this. I think I opened 15 threads with people saying they boned themselves with OC1... People need to know how cruel Verizon is.
hey guys
so Samsung has had this program for a while where they automatically update the security policy (specifically, SELinux, things relating to root privileges, etc) and they may have updated that system component to make kingroot not work. I was patient enough to stay on KitKat until some rooted lollipop ROMs came out, thus having the older bootloader so I can downgrade to nc5 and root that way. next time, all of you oc1 people who tried kingroot but failed, be patient!
if you are rooted and for some reason get a security policy update, you won't lose root. if you're not rooted and an update got rolled out to you, you're SOL. Samsung usually rolls these out without user intervention in the background
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thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...
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So the PC version of king root worked for me. You'll have to guess what the buttons mean though because it's all in Chinese
will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)
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will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)
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no unfortunately. eclipse and hyperdrive are based off of KitKat and empty galaxy only works on the mdk bootloader at this time.
your options on oc1 are stang5litre edition and muniz_ri's stock/deodexed ROMs
So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?
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So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?
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Don't do that!
There is a method to downgrade to NC5, gain root, and upgrade without losing root. Search the Dev forum.
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If you're past MDK (which NK4 is past MDK) you can't use CM. You can only use Safestrap ROMs for KK, and OC1 ROMs for locked bootloaders using Flashfire.
updated OP to reflect new OF1 update.
OF1 (minor update that mainly fixed the Stagefright bug) is not rootable and the qfuse counter has been increased, meaning no downgrading to OC1 (yet)
Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:
aleggsue said:
Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:
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Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..
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Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..
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in my opinion, touchwiz became more usable, but for people who have locked bootloaders who want custom roms (like me) are basically stuck on KitKat. oh well at least I have a choice, sorry for those who don't.
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