[INFO] Kitkat and Lollipop - ROOT, ROMs, etc. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

nobody here is responsible in any way if you break your phone. It was your fault. Figure it out yourself.
Before I begin, I would like to explain the usage of build numbers. There are 4 Kitkat firmwares and 2 Lollipop firmwares. The last three letters of the build number are used to identify the specific build (everything before that is device code stuff)
Kitkat builds are as follows:
NC5
NG6
NK1
NK4 (generally unused, as this was a preparation update for Lollipop)
Lollipop builds are as follows:
OC1
OF1
The easiest way to root is by being on a kitkat firmware and root the firmware itself using a kernel swap method, or downgrading to NC5 and using Towelroot.
OF1 IS ROOTABLE. CLICK HERE FOR INFO
OC1 is rootable through the usage of Kingroot (desktop version only): LINK HERE
YOU CAN NOT USE ANY CUSTOM RECOVERY (TWRP, CLOCKWORKMOD) WITH LOLLIPOP. NOT EVEN SAFESTRAP (it's too buggy and requires flashing the nc5 kernel to even get into)
(mdk users need not apply)
ROM info available in 2nd post.

Flashing ROMs
You can not flash CyanogenMod or any ROMs based off of its source code! Those are only for the MDK bootloader.
UPDATE: If you are on the OC1/OF1 bootloader, you can only flash TouchWiz Lollipop ROMs.
Two pretty solid ROMs for lollipop are:
[PORT][ROM] Albe95 S6 FULL PORT 4.6 [S6/Edge Plus/N5 FEATURE PORT] (UPDT 31/10/15)
stang5litre Ediition 5.0 OC1 MDK,SS,FF/OC1/OF1

I surely appreciate this post. Kit Pop was the only one that peaked My interest but after seeing this I will be back at it. The o.p.s often don't list if the rom is Safestrap compatible so I shy away.
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Nice write up and in for future updates on OC1 roms. Really hoping for an eclipse-style update to OC1. I hate touchwiz.
Sent from my Eclipse'd S4

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I can not get this goddamn Kingroot to work on OC1 Lollipop. Any suggestions guys? I've tried it a dozen times.

thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...

Nice.
I don't see Kitpop(I finally got my APN issues sorted out)
Someone Sticky this. I think I opened 15 threads with people saying they boned themselves with OC1... People need to know how cruel Verizon is.

hey guys
so Samsung has had this program for a while where they automatically update the security policy (specifically, SELinux, things relating to root privileges, etc) and they may have updated that system component to make kingroot not work. I was patient enough to stay on KitKat until some rooted lollipop ROMs came out, thus having the older bootloader so I can downgrade to nc5 and root that way. next time, all of you oc1 people who tried kingroot but failed, be patient!

if you are rooted and for some reason get a security policy update, you won't lose root. if you're not rooted and an update got rolled out to you, you're SOL. Samsung usually rolls these out without user intervention in the background

AYGM said:
thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...
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So the PC version of king root worked for me. You'll have to guess what the buttons mean though because it's all in Chinese

will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)

firenemesis7 said:
will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)
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no unfortunately. eclipse and hyperdrive are based off of KitKat and empty galaxy only works on the mdk bootloader at this time.
your options on oc1 are stang5litre edition and muniz_ri's stock/deodexed ROMs

So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?

pfunk26 said:
So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?
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Don't do that!
There is a method to downgrade to NC5, gain root, and upgrade without losing root. Search the Dev forum.
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If you're past MDK (which NK4 is past MDK) you can't use CM. You can only use Safestrap ROMs for KK, and OC1 ROMs for locked bootloaders using Flashfire.

updated OP to reflect new OF1 update.
OF1 (minor update that mainly fixed the Stagefright bug) is not rootable and the qfuse counter has been increased, meaning no downgrading to OC1 (yet)

Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:

aleggsue said:
Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:
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Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..

bkkzak said:
Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..
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in my opinion, touchwiz became more usable, but for people who have locked bootloaders who want custom roms (like me) are basically stuck on KitKat. oh well at least I have a choice, sorry for those who don't.
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[Q] Google Edition ROM on GS4 MJ7?

I saw someone say it was possible and I rooted mine just to do that (before knowing that mj7 custom recovery was impossible). I just want to put google edition on my S4. If anyone knows if what that person said is correct could you please send me a link to the info I need to make it happen.
I heard that the method was somehow related to using odin to install the stock image to the mj7 s4 as google edition is an official edition which would be great if that were true.
Jerome the Just said:
I saw someone say it was possible and I rooted mine just to do that (before knowing that mj7 custom recovery was impossible). I just want to put google edition on my S4. If anyone knows if what that person said is correct could you please send me a link to the info I need to make it happen.
I heard that the method was somehow related to using odin to install the stock image to the mj7 s4 as google edition is an official edition which would be great if that were true.
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Not possible to put any GE Rom on a S4 with MJ7.
The boot loader is locked and you will brick your phone.
Don't attempt.
Jerome the Just said:
I saw someone say it was possible and I rooted mine just to do that (before knowing that mj7 custom recovery was impossible). I just want to put google edition on my S4. If anyone knows if what that person said is correct could you please send me a link to the info I need to make it happen.
I heard that the method was somehow related to using odin to install the stock image to the mj7 s4 as google edition is an official edition which would be great if that were true.
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no ability to install any custom ROM as MJ7 bootloader is pretty much lockdown for that, Odin has nothing to do with it. Now, Hashcode is working on safestrap port for MJ7 and MDK2 base users but that is no guarantee that a GE based rom will work when it is done. Some restrictions on kernel base and safestrap you see. You can read thread on ROMs that worked with safestrap and see what was said there for Google Edition Rom
decaturbob said:
no ability to install any custom ROM as MJ7 bootloader is pretty much lockdown for that, Odin has nothing to do with it. Now, Hashcode is working on safestrap port for MJ7 and MDK2 base users but that is no guarantee that a GE based rom will work when it is done. Some restrictions on kernel base and safestrap you see. You can read thread on ROMs that worked with safestrap and see what was said there for Google Edition Rom
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I do recall that there were two Google Edition ROMs that were reported to work on Safestrap, actually. Chances are they were still using the stock kernel though, so since A.) The OP is probably on a newer kernel than those, and B.) The newest "GE" ROMs on 4.3 use an AOSP kernel, unfortunately we're gonna have to wait juuuust a bit longer.
I know how you feel. TouchWiz has to go.
But hey, on the bright side, we can at least have HyperDrive RLS11 on our MJ7 phones for the time being!

Any ROMS Compatible after OTA Update?

Hello, first post.
I'm non-rooted and I've taken the 4.4.2 OTA update.After realizing that Applications can no longer write to my SD, I'd like to go with a custom ROM.
Are there any avaliable? I realize it's soon.
I'm on SCH i545 4.4.2 Build NC5
Thanks
bben411 said:
Hello, first post.
I'm non-rooted and I've taken the 4.4.2 OTA update.After realizing that Applications can no longer write to my SD, I'd like to go with a custom ROM.
Are there any avaliable? I realize it's soon.
I'm on SCH i545 4.4.2 Build NC5
Thanks
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There is absolutely nothing available for NC5.
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Thank you. Something in the works hopefully!
bben411 said:
Thank you. Something in the works hopefully!
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Could be long time....
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bben411 said:
Hello, first post.
I'm non-rooted and I've taken the 4.4.2 OTA update.After realizing that Applications can no longer write to my SD, I'd like to go with a custom ROM.
Are there any avaliable? I realize it's soon.
I'm on SCH i545 4.4.2 Build NC5
Thanks
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#1) There's nothing you can do until a Root Method is achieved for NC5. It's probably going to be awhile. Look at the Galaxy S5 forum; high bounty for root on that device.
#2) Once Root is acheived then my guess is Safe Strap will be the mechanism to boot into recovery for flashing Rom's.
#3) FWIW you should NEVER take any OTA's from the carrier unless you can settle for a locked down bloated OS. Just keep tabs in these forums and hopefully our trusted Dev's can find a solution......

[Q] OTA 4.4.2 Fails with Root

I must be missing the how-to thread, but I've searched and come up empty handed...
I have a Verizon S4 on 4.3 with root. Originally I had 4.2 rooted, did the procedure to keep root when I upgraded to 4.3, but now I cannot upgrade to 4.4.2 without removing root (the OTA fails).
How do I remove root from 4.3 so that I can take the OTA update? I found this thread here, however, the Stock Firmware Page only lists 4.2.2 as an option, not 4.3. I didn't want to brick my phone by flashing to 4.2.2.
Is this really the simplest way to make my rooted 4.3 take the OTA for 4.4.2?
Thanks!
Code3VW said:
I must be missing the how-to thread, but I've searched and come up empty handed...
I have a Verizon S4 on 4.3 with root. Originally I had 4.2 rooted, did the procedure to keep root when I upgraded to 4.3, but now I cannot upgrade to 4.4.2 without removing root (the OTA fails).
How do I remove root from 4.3 so that I can take the OTA update? I found this thread here, however, the Stock Firmware Page only lists 4.2.2 as an option, not 4.3. I didn't want to brick my phone by flashing to 4.2.2.
Is this really the simplest way to make my rooted 4.3 take the OTA for 4.4.2?
Thanks!
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First of all, I would recommend staying at MK2. There are many reasons. If you REALLY want to goto 4.4.2, you have to open SuperSU and tap on Cleanup for permanent unroot. Then try taking the OTA.
EDIT: To get root back on 4.4.2, use towelroot.
EDIT 2: If you want to keep MK2 baseband but upgrade to 4.4.2, follow surges method.
Forgot to list that...I tried using SuperSU but it just sits there with the spinning circle forever and never says it has completed.
I have no real reason to go to 4.4.2, other than my desire to try the new OS...
xXsquirr3lsXx - Can you elaborate on why you recommend staying on MK2?
Code3VW - The other option you have is to ODIN the NC5 tar.
You could use the verizon repair tool , it will load the latest version of android and then use towelroot for root. I had the same problem on my wifes S3 and it worked and it is confirmed towelroot works on the S4.
richieroro said:
xXsquirr3lsXx - Can you elaborate on why you recommend staying on MK2?
Code3VW - The other option you have is to ODIN the NC5 tar.
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The very very very slim outside chance of finding a bootloader exploit...would most likely be found for pre - kitkat releases.
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decaturbob said:
The very very very slim outside chance of finding a bootloader exploit...would most likely be found for pre - kitkat releases.
sent by safestrap powered echo v26
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Hoping Dan releases something at blackhat... If nothing this i545 is going on Swappa.
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[Q]: TW 5.0.1 and SafeStrap

Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
mkglitzman said:
Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
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I would say wait and see. I have been seeing other updates to 5.0 also updating the bootloader. Maybe a new exploit in there? I would wait to take the update until either A: It is confirmed that SS will/will not work or B: they find a new exploit to use.
Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
mcbeat257 said:
Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
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Waiting on a boot.img so we can get the 5.01 GPE rom to run under safestrap ...
I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
mcbeat257 said:
I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
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touchwizz is still crap tho
I can agree with that. I updated this morning. I'm disappointed that the s5 camera and the favorites in messenger didn't make it into the update, but I can't complain. It's still lollipop.
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I presume that this update loses (unpaid) WiFi tether?
Currently on rooted NG6 with tether modules on VZW unlimited. Keeping tether is the only mandatory feature for me.
Wait?
There are guides out there to upgrade and keep root.i would advise using one of those.
If you upgrade to the OTA OC1 you will be on another locked boot loader with no way to downgrade back to Kitkat if you don't like it.
Currently as it stands, there's no root for OTA OC1. There's also no Safestrap that will work with it and no way to Odin back to nc5 once you do the OTA upgrade.
Development Forums are for developers to share their work and post their Roms and Mods.
Questions belong in the Q&A section.
Thread has been moved to correct section, please pay attention to XDA rules.
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Should I update to Lolipop?

Should I update to Lolipop on the S5? I hear there is some battery issues on some of the phones. Any issues with the Lolipop on T-Mobile S5?
not if you want root and rom. it becomes a ***** with lollipop.
webdork said:
not if you want root and rom. it becomes a ***** with lollipop.
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Well I have Knox with KitKat so if I update to Lolipop I loose root and it's hard to root again than?
molitar said:
Well I have Knox with KitKat so if I update to Lolipop I loose root and it's hard to root again than?
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You'll miss xposed framework, if it is something you use.
I've haven't posted in awhile, but I've been running NE6 rooted with Towelroot for about a year now. I have the stock ROM installed with zero issues.
Recently, I've read around about Lollipop and saw there have been a few issues which need to be ironed out, although I've never installed it and can't speak from real world use.
Coming from the S4 which I used to flash ROMs like crazy, I've gotten used to the S5 with NE6 stock, and rooted to run several apps which require Root.
So at least for now, I'm sticking with NE6.
To answer for the root part it's not hard. Took me no more than a few minutes with cf-auto root. Same process and files I used in kit kit. Lolipop has some minor issues but battery life hasn't been one of them for me. Only thing I miss is xposed....
chstewart said:
To answer for the root part it's not hard. Took me no more than a few minutes with cf-auto root. Same process and files I used in kit kit. Lolipop has some minor issues but battery life hasn't been one of them for me. Only thing I miss is xposed....
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Well, if all you're doing is rooting the stock rom then yeah, I understand missing xposed. There is now a setup that will install xposed on roms that have been deodexed. Stock roms have not been though. Only problem is a lot of the modules still won't work on Lollipop and even fewer on Touchwiz lollipop.
I have the G900Tuvucnk2 version and it won't let me do the software upgrade to lollipop, it says the device is up to date but I'm still on 4.4.2? Any ideas why
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