Should I update to Lolipop on the S5? I hear there is some battery issues on some of the phones. Any issues with the Lolipop on T-Mobile S5?
not if you want root and rom. it becomes a ***** with lollipop.
webdork said:
not if you want root and rom. it becomes a ***** with lollipop.
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Well I have Knox with KitKat so if I update to Lolipop I loose root and it's hard to root again than?
molitar said:
Well I have Knox with KitKat so if I update to Lolipop I loose root and it's hard to root again than?
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You'll miss xposed framework, if it is something you use.
I've haven't posted in awhile, but I've been running NE6 rooted with Towelroot for about a year now. I have the stock ROM installed with zero issues.
Recently, I've read around about Lollipop and saw there have been a few issues which need to be ironed out, although I've never installed it and can't speak from real world use.
Coming from the S4 which I used to flash ROMs like crazy, I've gotten used to the S5 with NE6 stock, and rooted to run several apps which require Root.
So at least for now, I'm sticking with NE6.
To answer for the root part it's not hard. Took me no more than a few minutes with cf-auto root. Same process and files I used in kit kit. Lolipop has some minor issues but battery life hasn't been one of them for me. Only thing I miss is xposed....
chstewart said:
To answer for the root part it's not hard. Took me no more than a few minutes with cf-auto root. Same process and files I used in kit kit. Lolipop has some minor issues but battery life hasn't been one of them for me. Only thing I miss is xposed....
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Well, if all you're doing is rooting the stock rom then yeah, I understand missing xposed. There is now a setup that will install xposed on roms that have been deodexed. Stock roms have not been though. Only problem is a lot of the modules still won't work on Lollipop and even fewer on Touchwiz lollipop.
I have the G900Tuvucnk2 version and it won't let me do the software upgrade to lollipop, it says the device is up to date but I'm still on 4.4.2? Any ideas why
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Mine is running 4.3 and rooted. I am happy with everything. Just read the post how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and retain root. It seems Kitkat is becoming the majority soon. I am concerned 4.3 may not be well supported .... in 2+ years. Well, should I consider upgrading? Is there any compelling reason that Kitkat is the way to go?
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Mine is running 4.3 and rooted. I am happy with everything. Just read the post how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and retain root. It seems Kitkat is becoming the majority soon. I am concerned 4.3 may not be well supported .... in 2+ years. Well, should I consider upgrading? Is there any compelling reason that Kitkat is the way to go?
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Right now there is only a small different between 4.4 and 4.3 stay wit 4.3 the longest u can. Android is still supporting 2.3 apps. So when u upgrade we will probably be in android 6.0. Thats what I'm doing I have the s4 rooted in 4.3 and very happy
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Right now there is only a small different between 4.4 and 4.3 stay wit 4.3 the longest u can. Android is still supporting 2.3 apps. So when u upgrade we will probably be in android 6.0. Thats what I'm doing I have the s4 rooted in 4.3 and very happy
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I'm work you. I'm at least going to wait for a root exploit before I upgrade. I made my wife take the update ( non rooted) and there's nothing that I seen to make me jump on it.
jcwilliams said:
I'm work you. I'm at least going to wait for a root exploit before I upgrade. I made my wife take the update ( non rooted) and there's nothing that I seen to make me jump on it.
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Yes just wait. I am also waiting for the root exploit to be found for 4.4 but for now. I am happy wit my wifi tether app and greenify app. Make my phone worth it staying in 4.3, especially when u used 50GB every month still grandfather in unlimited data.
Once Sbreen has 4.4 on hyperdrive ill upgrade to it. Im too happy with HD to give it up lol
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Yes just wait. I am also waiting for the root exploit to be found for 4.4 but for now. I am happy wit my wifi tether app and greenify app. Make my phone worth it staying in 4.3, especially when u used 50GB every month still grandfather in unlimited data.
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Surge's method in the general section keeps root in upgrading to the ota 4.4. Wifi tether is natively enabled.
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Surge's method in the general section keeps root in upgrading to the ota 4.4. Wifi tether is natively enabled.
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Yes I seen about of people upgrade to it. But getting wit me I need to have a lock screen on my phone.But if it wasn't for that I would of done it by now. Thank u anyways.
dgutierrez04 said:
Yes I seen about of people upgrade to it. But getting wit me I need to have a lock screen on my phone.But if it wasn't for that I would of done it by now. Thank u anyways.
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I used Surge's method and went from 4.3 MK2 straight to 4.4 NC5. The only problem I had was the lock screen issue but I followed instructions in the following thread and fixed it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692147
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Surge's method in the general section keeps root in upgrading to the ota 4.4. Wifi tether is natively enabled.
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Works great.
I used this method because I wanted tethering to work and if you root these days you need to ODIN back to get an OTA anyway.
So there aren't any real drawbacks to the method to get KitKat and retain root.
You also don't update the bootloader with Surge's method and that's a plus.
Whatever you decide OP, don't take the OTA.
Not sure how many people are looking for a different root method.
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Works great.
I used this method because I wanted tethering to work and if you root these days you need to ODIN back to get an OTA anyway.
So there aren't any real drawbacks to the method to get KitKat and retain root.
You also don't update the bootloader with Surge's method and that's a plus.
Whatever you decide OP, don't take the OTA.
Not sure how many people are looking for a different root method.
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How do you know what boot loader you are on? If the BL isn't changed with Surge's method then that means you should be able to roll back from NC5 to MK2 if you don't like NC5, correct?
If you are rooted on 4.3 I would promote that you stay where you are. On 4.3 with root, you can freeze all the crapware with TiBU and have a very stable and efficient platform.
Once you jump to 4.4, you'll lose root and will be stuck with all the crapware. To be fair, my wife's S4 is now on 4.4 and seems to be running fine. I just don't trust all the bloat that sits there behind the scenes
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If you are rooted on 4.3 I would promote that you stay where you are. On 4.3 with root, you can freeze all the crapware with TiBU and have a very stable and efficient platform.
Once you jump to 4.4, you'll lose root and will be stuck with all the crapware. To be fair, my wife's S4 is now on 4.4 and seems to be running fine. I just don't trust all the bloat that sits there behind the scenes
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If you've been reading, you can clearly upgrade to 4.4 with root.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...date-with-knox-2-0-connectivity-improvements/
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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Until they realize they are not doing their customers any favors, never.
I knew better. Got an MDK device, rooted it immediately and have been running CM ever since. [emoji41]
If you guys are talking about Knox 2.0...get used to it. Knox is being incorporated by Google in Android "L".
Remember, with all the hackers out there, the average Joe and Joan want their privacy secured...all the banking that is done from the phones now?
And also Verizon is the largest carrier for military and commercial contracts...to keep them and get more the phones have to be as secure as possible.
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
I think they need to find another root method. Towelroot only works on kernels june 3 and below. I have no idea if it will work if you used it
I'm not upgrading. All flashaholics like me will DEFINITELY just wait for a possible exploit for NC5 than hope for the almost nonexistent chance there will be an unlock in the new firmware. Just my $0.02
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Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
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We have been able to use towelroot on the latest updates for the att S4, S5, and Vz S5 by flashing back the previous kernel, rooting, then reflashing the new unexploitable kernel. Vz S4 users will likely be able to do the same on NG6.
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Least they could have done was give us 4.4.4 at the same time.
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Anyone get this yet. What android version is it still 4.4.2
Does towelroot work on this update? I want to know before I take the plunge...
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Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
MedleHed said:
Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
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Towelroot is guaranteed not to work. A better option is to grab the update from your cache/fota folder and post so that we can make a workaround to keep root.
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Lol, I remember and don't blame you at all.
It's confirmed that towelroot doesn't work. The version is still 4.4.2. The first thing I noticed was the GPS toggle in the notification area is now a Location toggle.
Any method of rooting?
Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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I could give you guys the OTA if you tell me how to do it. I'm by no means an expert at rooting, but I've had a few years experience. So basically you'll modify the new kernel to allow downgrading to NC5, root, then update again? I had Towelroot before I updated, had OTA survival mode enabled in SuperSU, and had it installed as a system app, but I still lost root on this latest update. :crying:
muniz_ri said:
There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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When they finally block us from doing this, it will be a dark day lol.
Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
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Yesterday Verizon posted information about the lollipop update 5.0.1.
I'm assuming that the current 5.73 SafeStrap will not work with the stock 5.0.1 firmware. Do any devs have an idea how to load Roms onto the s4 after the update? Or do we assume that anyone not running an MDK bootloader is stuck in 4.4.x based or with the stock 5.0.1 TW?
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I would say wait and see. I have been seeing other updates to 5.0 also updating the bootloader. Maybe a new exploit in there? I would wait to take the update until either A: It is confirmed that SS will/will not work or B: they find a new exploit to use.
Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
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Currently, there is no new exploits for lollipop, and there is no rooting method to lollipop. If you REALLY want lollipop, I suggest you flash NC5 and then use software update to update all the way to lollipop.
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Waiting on a boot.img so we can get the 5.01 GPE rom to run under safestrap ...
I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
mcbeat257 said:
I gotta say, they did update the recovery modules, and the boot modules too. The only downside is that they did not implement certain features that the galaxy s5 right now has, but overall probably the best update yet. Plus it is pretty smooth.
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touchwizz is still crap tho
I can agree with that. I updated this morning. I'm disappointed that the s5 camera and the favorites in messenger didn't make it into the update, but I can't complain. It's still lollipop.
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I presume that this update loses (unpaid) WiFi tether?
Currently on rooted NG6 with tether modules on VZW unlimited. Keeping tether is the only mandatory feature for me.
Wait?
There are guides out there to upgrade and keep root.i would advise using one of those.
If you upgrade to the OTA OC1 you will be on another locked boot loader with no way to downgrade back to Kitkat if you don't like it.
Currently as it stands, there's no root for OTA OC1. There's also no Safestrap that will work with it and no way to Odin back to nc5 once you do the OTA upgrade.
Development Forums are for developers to share their work and post their Roms and Mods.
Questions belong in the Q&A section.
Thread has been moved to correct section, please pay attention to XDA rules.
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I have the note edge, still on kit Kat, it's rooted. But it's got a stock rom. I was thinking about upgrading to lollipop, but read I'd have to unroot kitkat, install the official lollipop, then root lollipop?
Are there step by step instructions, or maybe even an easier way out there?
I miss the days when we could just flash radio updates and any rom we wanted without doing anything else. Ha.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2943993
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2943993
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Thanks but that thread is for T-mobile?
You have to Odin back to stock firmware. .. Let the OTA take place then re-root ..
Werd.
primo523 said:
You have to Odin back to stock firmware. .. Let the OTA take place then re-root ..
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I assume that this hasn't changed at all?
OK2 isn't rooted yet, so flash the OG1 stock rom for lollipop and root that one. Don't take the OTA though cause you'll lose root.
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I have the note edge, still on kit Kat, it's rooted. But it's got a stock rom. I was thinking about upgrading to lollipop, but read I'd have to unroot kitkat, install the official lollipop, then root lollipop?
Are there step by step instructions, or maybe even an easier way out there?
I miss the days when we could just flash radio updates and any rom we wanted without doing anything else. Ha.
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Would you happen to have a nandroid of your KitKat have a friend who's battery can hardly last the day due to the constatnt drain issue on 5.1.1
cRiMiNaL_Genius said:
Would you happen to have a nandroid of your KitKat have a friend who's battery can hardly last the day due to the constatnt drain issue on 5.1.1
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I'm sure I do somewhere. But it isn't a fresh install. It has my hacks and my own settings and my everything including any personal info they it stores? I. E. Google wallet info and lte encryption keys.
Thats no problem if you're still on KitKat make a new backup excluding the data and cache partitions, hopefully thas not too much for a friendly request lol
nobody here is responsible in any way if you break your phone. It was your fault. Figure it out yourself.
Before I begin, I would like to explain the usage of build numbers. There are 4 Kitkat firmwares and 2 Lollipop firmwares. The last three letters of the build number are used to identify the specific build (everything before that is device code stuff)
Kitkat builds are as follows:
NC5
NG6
NK1
NK4 (generally unused, as this was a preparation update for Lollipop)
Lollipop builds are as follows:
OC1
OF1
The easiest way to root is by being on a kitkat firmware and root the firmware itself using a kernel swap method, or downgrading to NC5 and using Towelroot.
OF1 IS ROOTABLE. CLICK HERE FOR INFO
OC1 is rootable through the usage of Kingroot (desktop version only): LINK HERE
YOU CAN NOT USE ANY CUSTOM RECOVERY (TWRP, CLOCKWORKMOD) WITH LOLLIPOP. NOT EVEN SAFESTRAP (it's too buggy and requires flashing the nc5 kernel to even get into)
(mdk users need not apply)
ROM info available in 2nd post.
Flashing ROMs
You can not flash CyanogenMod or any ROMs based off of its source code! Those are only for the MDK bootloader.
UPDATE: If you are on the OC1/OF1 bootloader, you can only flash TouchWiz Lollipop ROMs.
Two pretty solid ROMs for lollipop are:
[PORT][ROM] Albe95 S6 FULL PORT 4.6 [S6/Edge Plus/N5 FEATURE PORT] (UPDT 31/10/15)
stang5litre Ediition 5.0 OC1 MDK,SS,FF/OC1/OF1
I surely appreciate this post. Kit Pop was the only one that peaked My interest but after seeing this I will be back at it. The o.p.s often don't list if the rom is Safestrap compatible so I shy away.
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Nice write up and in for future updates on OC1 roms. Really hoping for an eclipse-style update to OC1. I hate touchwiz.
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I can not get this goddamn Kingroot to work on OC1 Lollipop. Any suggestions guys? I've tried it a dozen times.
thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...
Nice.
I don't see Kitpop(I finally got my APN issues sorted out)
Someone Sticky this. I think I opened 15 threads with people saying they boned themselves with OC1... People need to know how cruel Verizon is.
hey guys
so Samsung has had this program for a while where they automatically update the security policy (specifically, SELinux, things relating to root privileges, etc) and they may have updated that system component to make kingroot not work. I was patient enough to stay on KitKat until some rooted lollipop ROMs came out, thus having the older bootloader so I can downgrade to nc5 and root that way. next time, all of you oc1 people who tried kingroot but failed, be patient!
if you are rooted and for some reason get a security policy update, you won't lose root. if you're not rooted and an update got rolled out to you, you're SOL. Samsung usually rolls these out without user intervention in the background
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thesame here... i cannot get this Kingroot to work on my phone...
I read in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/rooted-galaxy-s4-t3158098/page1 that it is possible, but nothing for me...
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So the PC version of king root worked for me. You'll have to guess what the buttons mean though because it's all in Chinese
will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)
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will any of these roms work with flashfire and the oc1 update?
Eclipse (a TouchWiz KK ROM with a really thorough AOSP theme, my personal favorite)
HyperDrive RLS21 (TouchWiz Kitkat, super customizable
Empty Galaxy (you might like this guy's theming to TW, it's pretty awesome!)
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no unfortunately. eclipse and hyperdrive are based off of KitKat and empty galaxy only works on the mdk bootloader at this time.
your options on oc1 are stang5litre edition and muniz_ri's stock/deodexed ROMs
So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?
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So basically if I (actually a friend of mine) is on NK4 4.4.2, the best way to root is to upgrade to lollipop via the verizon OTA update, then use Kingroot to root?
But what if I want cyanogenmod on the phone? Should I root a different way...how?
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Don't do that!
There is a method to downgrade to NC5, gain root, and upgrade without losing root. Search the Dev forum.
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If you're past MDK (which NK4 is past MDK) you can't use CM. You can only use Safestrap ROMs for KK, and OC1 ROMs for locked bootloaders using Flashfire.
updated OP to reflect new OF1 update.
OF1 (minor update that mainly fixed the Stagefright bug) is not rootable and the qfuse counter has been increased, meaning no downgrading to OC1 (yet)
Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:
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Almost October 2015, and still no hopes for an AOSP-styled Lollipop. :sad:
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Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..
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Agreed. Lollipop was a game changer, but seemingly in a bad way..
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in my opinion, touchwiz became more usable, but for people who have locked bootloaders who want custom roms (like me) are basically stuck on KitKat. oh well at least I have a choice, sorry for those who don't.
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