Hey so I've read up a lot on the Nexus 9 (been debating to get it since before christmas) and whenever I go to Best Buy I check it out and I'm still strongly debating getting one. I have the money for it no problem but my problem is if something better is right around the corner? I could really use a tablet, I miss having a tablet for multiple reasons every day. Since switching to Android I just can't bare pulling out an old iPad - I was glad to be out of the Apple ecosystem a good 8 or so months ago and I don't want to have anything to do with it again.
Does anyone know if a new premium Android tablet is around the corner? Is their anything better than a Nexus 9 right now? I know about the Shield Tablet but it doesn't seem to be faring any better and I want a tablet to be a tablet, not a slightly bigger than a phablet, tablet. Otherwise I would've bought a Nexus 6 instead of an S6 Edge and use it for everything.
Thanks in advance, just want to hear some opinions and get some insight!
There will ALWAYS be something better coming around the corner.
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There will ALWAYS be something better coming around the corner.
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not all the time
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I'm worried about them unveiling a new tablet at Google I/O. This isn't a cheap tablet and if they unveil a new one a month or two after I buy a Nexus 9 I'll be insanely pissed lol. Was the Nexus 7 not announced right after Google I/O last year?
if something in the back of your head is talking you out of it.. then wait. and frankly you can pick up a windows 8.1 for less cost. that said.. there are things like using ezpdf, SW-KOTOR, or Tapatalk over the browser version of forums like this, that make it so much more appealing.. its time to break out a piece a paper and make a pro/con list.
announced, and actually being sold are two different things.. the N9 was never really announced, it was preceded by so many inaccurate rumors I became very pissed with all of the clickbait droid news sites around October of last year.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab A on the way if you want to buy it, lol.
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Sorry but I disagree. The idea that a newer and better product will never come around is crazy talk. The phone / tablet market is completely built around the idea of something better always coming around to get people to desire something else. I bought my Droid Turbo right after the Nexus 6 came out so I could do a side by side. It wasn't that long afterward that the G4 and S6 were out. Something is always coming around the corner.
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if something in the back of your head is talking you out of it.. then wait. and frankly you can pick up a windows 8.1 for less cost. that said.. there are things like using ezpdf, SW-KOTOR, or Tapatalk over the browser version of forums like this, that make it so much more appealing.. its time to break out a piece a paper and make a pro/con list.
announced, and actually being sold are two different things.. the N9 was never really announced, it was preceded by so many inaccurate rumors I became very pissed with all of the clickbait droid news sites around October of last year.
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I'd get a Windows 8.1 device for cheap if I knew it would actually work well enough for me. I have a good laptop but it weighs a ton so I only ever use it for work as a "portable desktop." I'm just tired of sitting down and wanting to browse the web, watch Youtube/Netflix etc on a tiny phone screen but I'm not sure if that justifies a cost of almost $500 for the 16GB version of the Nexus 9.
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Sorry but I disagree. The idea that a newer and better product will never come around is crazy talk. The phone / tablet market is completely built around the idea of something better always coming around to get people to desire something else. I bought my Droid Turbo right after the Nexus 6 came out so I could do a side by side. It wasn't that long afterward that the G4 and S6 were out. Something is always coming around the corner.
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I just don't want a new Nexus tablet coming out that has less problems for around the same price with a revised magic cover or something within a few months. There isn't always something better around the corner (for me) because I bought an S6 Edge knowing it was exactly what I want until a better phone of it's caliber comes out. Yes, the G4 is coming out in June but to me it isn't nearly as good as my S6.
There's always something new coming out but not necessarily better for your tastes. I'm just trying to avoid that as a $500 tablet is a pretty decent purchase and I don't want it to be a bad one.
picked up a Toshiba 10" tablet with win 8.1. it does the basics, and then some.. can't play new games, but it is an Atom chip, didn't expect to.
for YouTube, Netflix, VLC. it works very good. the one I got only has 1G of ram, look around, you can find a much higher spec win 8.1 at the same price googleHTC want for the N9
is the N9 and its being left behind by its makers making me regret my purchase? yeah, kinda.
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I'm worried about them unveiling a new tablet at Google I/O. This isn't a cheap tablet and if they unveil a new one a month or two after I buy a Nexus 9 I'll be insanely pissed lol. Was the Nexus 7 not announced right after Google I/O last year?
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If they introduce a new one then you sell it and take a $50 loss. So you got to play around with the 9 for four months for $50 look at it that way.
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But this time, better devices have been there long before. N9 is absolutely low end in every way, except price. [emoji17]
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But this time, better devices have been there long before. N9 is absolutely low end in every way, except price. [emoji17]
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I do thank my N9 for one thing. I've learned my next tablet will also be a 4:3. I'd love the N9 a lot more if it didn't have an nVidia chip in it. Hopefully Google learns a lesson from this whole thing.
There are so many other issues, the back, the display, the display flickering, the sharp edges, that make holding the device really uncomfortable, etc. The n9 is just an expensive disaster. I would not buy it again, but think about getting a cheap Galaxy tab 3 and installing cyanogenmod.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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The original nexus 10 is made by Samsung, not Asus. Asus is purported to be the manufacturer of the new one. The build quality on the original is decent. The back is kind of wonkey, but it feels solid over-all. I'm certain there's loads of support for ROMs. It is a very popular tablet. I doubt they will give a lot more speed though. It's not like there was an abundance of bloatware on the original. When I rooted my Galaxy S3, I saw massive gains in speed, but that was bloat heaven. I just don't see that being the case for this tablet. Maybe I'm wrong, don't know, haven't researched it.
If you don't like Asus, then don't wait around for the next one though. All signs and rumors say they are the manufacturer. Remember though, this is Google overseeing the manufacturer, so the build quality may end up surprising you. We'll just have to wait and see.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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Part of the problem with this and any device, outside the initial release time, you rarely see individuals post about how much they like the device.
That said, I like my N10. And even with the rumored release of a new 2nd gen, I'd purchase the N10 again at the recent discounted pricing.
Samsung had improved the build quality as time went by, so you see a lot less posting about light bleed issues. The memory leak from the Mali GPU has been solved with the 4.3 release.
Mine also doesn't flex on the back, so it doesn't have the cheap feel that has been reported in the past.
If you don't require cutting edge, get the Samsung Google Nexus 10.
That said, the 2nd generation is almost any time now, I think it's worth waiting to see what it's like and the reviews from users in the forums.
I'm still having memory issues with mine, even after 4.3. (Reboots once a week, and if I try to load it like I did my original Prime it reboots more often) so I'm waiting for the 2013 Nexus to see if it's good enough to replace my current Nexus 10.
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I agree with the one of the previous posters in that most of the threads that you will see are regarding help and problems. If everything is working well, people generally tend not to make posts.
I love my N10. I even got it refurbished from Walmart and have no problems with it at all. I have rooted and installed custom ROMs as well. I love the feel, the speed and resolution. I use it daily. Since I got it, I rarely use my laptop anymore.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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I don't think you'd regret it. Its a great tablet though a lot of the models have light bleed so its something to watch out for and make sure it isn't too bad on yours. Usually it isn't very noticeable unless u look for it though
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You wont be disappointed. Nexus 10 is my first tablet, tho I have tried/used many. The screen is amazing, and the tablet is very responsive. Never had any problems with it. The day I got it, I unlocked it, rooted it, and installed CyanogenMod. Currently using a nightly build of CM 10.2 (4.3). The build quality isnt that bad either. The speakers are huge compared to what other tablets have, so you can expect good sound quality too.
My Nexus 10 has been great from day one. Now on 4.3 and have never had a problem.
No problems or complains with mine. The screen is excellent especially for reading which is a reason I bought it. I don't calibrate for color or look for light bleed, its a good tablet for the money and just as good if not better than the ipad4. I guess if I could suggest one improvement, it needs extended battery life.
That said, we're pretty sure the new Nexus 10 will be released in a week or two, I'd wait. The current model will be discounted if you see nothing you'd like with the new one.
So are you? I keep looking online for information to the new Nexus 10, but no one seems to care. All I can find is information related to the new Nexus 5, and although it's a great looking device, I'm gonna wait a bit to see if I want to change carrier just to get it. What really has me excited is the concept of a far more powerful Nexus 10 device.
Yet, no one seems especially interested. So am I gonna have any competition at all buying this device? If no one cares I guess it'll make it that much easier to waltz in and buy it. I even sold my old one before the new one was announced so that I could get a good price for it.
I am with you. Looking forward to it. If it ever sees the light of day.
not really ... my nexus 10 is already perfect
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not really ... my nexus 10 is already perfect
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As someone who owned a Nexus 10, perfect does not describe it accurately. It may be perfect for you but I would like to see the new one improve on some things. Holding out for more news, but there doesn't seem to be any :/
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As someone who owned a Nexus 10, perfect does not describe it accurately. It may be perfect for you but I would like to see the new one improve on some things. Holding out for more news, but there doesn't seem to be any :/
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Agree. A good device but not perfect.
Im also looking forward to the 2nd gen Nexus 10. However, I really hope that its not Asus that makes the next N10. They seem to f**k up every device they release.
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Yup I am looking forward to it. The current Nexus 10 is good but you can tell that it has not really been optimised and it does lag. Because the new tablet will be using the 800 snapdragon (well hopefully) then it will sure be a hell lot smoother and stable.
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Yup I am looking forward to it. The current Nexus 10 is good but you can tell that it has not really been optimised and it does lag. Because the new tablet will be using the 800 snapdragon (well hopefully) then it will sure be a hell lot smoother and stable.
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That's what I felt about mine the whole time I had it. It was smooth... sometimes. Even with the subsequent updates it never really felt like it was "there" yet. I knew going in that it was a first gen device and that there may be problems. Perhaps they just couldn't find a CPU/GPU at the time that would handle the level of power needed. Overall I choose Android over iOS for the functionality, and wouldn't balk at a few stutters. However, there were many things that just seemed to really bother me.
Browsing the web was a complete chop fest on many of my favorite websites, most likely because the Nexus has to re-scale just about everything, every time, because of its very high resolution. Also, playing games was fun, but only til the tablet got really hot and throttled itself and the game started to slow down. Even the relatively simple game "Dungelot" had this problem. Stuttering abounded after that happened. It was other games too but that one I remember vividly.
In other words... I loved it, but I would also really love an updated version of it. One that doesn't have the problems present with the first.
Well it definitely looks like it'll be manufactured by Asus and not Samsung.
That doesn't really bother me - I came to the Nexus 10 from the Nexus 7 (first gen). Nexus 7 was awesome until 4.2 was released and it never recovered from that. It annoyed me that to get a decent experience from it I needed to use an outdated version of Android...
I sold my Nexus 7 and bought a 2nd hand N10. I do love my N10 but yeah obviously I would love an updated faster version, but for me money is an issue and I already got a great bargain for the 2nd hand N10 (for £185) (this was in July), so i wouldn't be able to afford a new N10. Same with the Nexus 5. Would freaking love one but no way I can afford it, I've got a 2nd hand HTC One X (for £145).
Yeah I agree Google need to sort out performance on android. Nexus 7 first gen was brilliant but after the 4.2 update it has been bad, and even with 4.3 with trim it is still laggy.
Nexus 10 on the other hand has got better with updates, it is just the kernel and driver which is letting it down in my opinion.
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Would be nice if ANY information on the N10 version two was available.
Hard to get excited about a new device with zero info...
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Would be nice if ANY information on the N10 version two was available.
Hard to get excited about a new device with zero info...
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Right? Where's the new Nexus 10 spec leak? Come on, they've already pretty much shown us the whole Nexus 5. Specs, images, hell they even put it up on Google Play for a short time. I have looked through the roster of available tablets, and a new Nexus 10 is what I wanna go with, despite the absence of info. The new Note looks alright, but it also looks bloated and confusing.
Why can't the other tablet manufacturers understand that maybe the user actually wants to use some of that power for important things, not 100 background processes that slow the entire thing down. Oh sure you could root it and put a different ROM on, but why would I pay $550 for a tablet with all these special features I don't want and am going to just throw away? It's like pissing $150 down the drain.
Google needs to get on the ball with these new releases.
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Right? Where's the new Nexus 10 spec leak? Come on, they've already pretty much shown us the whole Nexus 5. Specs, images, hell they even put it up on Google Play for a short time. I have looked through the roster of available tablets, and a new Nexus 10 is what I wanna go with, despite the absence of info. The new Note looks alright, but it also looks bloated and confusing.
Why can't the other tablet manufacturers understand that maybe the user actually wants to use some of that power for important things, not 100 background processes that slow the entire thing down. Oh sure you could root it and put a different ROM on, but why would I pay $550 for a tablet with all these special features I don't want and am going to just throw away? It's like pissing $150 down the drain.
Google needs to get on the ball with these new releases.
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I personally don't believe the Nexus 10 2 will be released on same day as Nexus 5. I think it might be released closer to xmas.. I hope im wrong.
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I personally don't believe the Nexus 10 2 will be released on same day as Nexus 5. I think it might be released closer to xmas.. I hope im wrong.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I too hope you are wrong. I can't wait that long....
I want a release already but then again if they release it on the same day as the nexus 5 (Oct. 24th) then I'll be spending around $1000 by Oct. 31st... So let's hope for a quick release but not so quick..
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The new Note looks alright, but it also looks bloated and confusing.
Why can't the other tablet manufacturers understand that maybe the user actually wants to use some of that power for important things, not 100 background processes that slow the entire thing down. Oh sure you could root it and put a different ROM on, but why would I pay $550 for a tablet with all these special features I don't want and am going to just throw away? It's like pissing $150 down the drain.
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I'm with you. I've never been a fan of Samsung TouchWiz - it's just a bunch of unnecessary fluff as far as I'm concerned.
I purchased my current cell phone (Galaxy Nexus) from Amazon for just that reason.
Hopefully by the time the new Nexus 10 is out the Asus TF701T will be available as well - would be nice to have another choice at time of purchase!
Nope won't be upgrading as mine is perfect too
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I'm definitely intrigued about getting the next one. I like mine, but certain things like the creakiness, random reboots, light bleed, and slowdown keep bothering me.
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Needs to look more square like the Nexus 7 2013 and come in around £300.
Otherwise ipad air for me.
Hope they announce it soon.
Google is out of stock on the 16 Gb version. Since I doubt these things are selling like hotcakes now, I hope this means that they have stopped resupply in anticipation of the new one launching.
Pure conjecture.
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Would be nice if we had some info on it. I've got the original wifi xoom mz604 and I'll say its held up nicely and it does everything I ask it to do, but I've upgraded my phone twice since getting it and I'm ready for the nexus 10 2 (nexus 10 2013?) to drop...or just some info to drop so I can make a decision whether to wait or not.
What I don't understand about product releases is that I would think manufacturers would want to release information as early as possible so that buyers can decide whether to wait and buy their device or to go ahead and buy an available device. I'd think that if someone wants a new tablet and wants to get the newest one available (that suits them), they would research whats available or coming up and make a decision. If i'm gonna buy a tablet today, but I know the nexus 10 2 is coming out in 2 weeks. I'm more likely to wait the 2 weeks and get the newest tablet out there. If theres no info on release date and I need a tablet now, I'll just go buy whats available now instead of waiting indefinitely.
Get the release date and price out there so I can decide to wait or not. Otherwise I'll buy something else today and you'll lose my business. I'm sure there are reasons to not release the info, but as a buyer...I want to know how long I have to wait.
At any rate, I want to switch to Nexus devices...but I'm on Verizon and won't be getting a nexus phone anytime soon I bet. So at least tell me when I can get the tablet...I mean, its my birthday today and I could tell my family just to give me some cash to save up for it instead of asking for something else just to be asking for something...i.e. mom is getting me a briefcase...exciting!
Lay out the release roadmap so I know what to do...please.
Hi I'm absolutely new to these forums but have owned nexus phones since the nexus 5. And the sole reason I left other OEMs is the software availability with fast updates. And that's how it's been these past few years. ... And now I just bought the Nexus 6P from moving in from Nexus 6. And I've read that Google is abandoning it's nexus lines on certain EOL dates and unfortunately nexus 6P isn't so far away.
But it isn't what has me mad. It's the fact that nexus devices are not going to receive fast updates anymore or receive the same treatment the Pixel phones are going to get ( updates )... I can care less about Google exclusive features for the Pixel but don't delay our updates. Especially when we bought our phones cause of this reason ... Not a lot of people can afford to buy a new phone every year. So I don't want Google to do us dirty.
So if you agree with me and don't agree with Google's decision then let's rebel and refuse to buy Google's Flagship and comment showing your ideas and support... let's start putting some control in consumers hands.
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My plan is,
I will buy 2nd hand 128GB XL next year.
I'm sitting on my Nexus 6P for one more year, then I think I'm going for the 10th anniversary iPhone.
Getting a bit sick and tired of Google's shenanigans after six years with Android.
Im Back to 6P a week ago before this bad news because this phone is great. I would like stay with him for next year and abandon android.
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I will buy 2nd hand 128GB XL next year.
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I can see that, but with the price it's keeping me away
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Im Back to 6P a week ago before this bad news because this phone is great. I would like stay with him for next year and abandon android.
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I'm not leaving for awhile , eventually ill experiment and try porting Pixel rom over to our device..
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Just got my 6P a month ago. I will keep it for as long as it will work. Later on probably either get a 2nd hand Pixel XL or as I did with this 6P , I will get a new PIXEL XL when the next phone on that line will be released.
As of now, Google has become Apple #2 for me.
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Just got my 6P a month ago. I will keep it for as long as it will work. Later on probably either get a 2nd hand Pixel XL or as I did with this 6P , I will get a new PIXEL XL when the next phone on that line will be released.
As of now, Google has become Apple #2 for me.
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I'll only get it when I can get a 128gb cheaply
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Same here. I mean I see no reason to switch my device of practically the same one i've already got. So I guess I'll either get me a used one for a cheap price OR, get a bran new one as I did with the 6P , like a Month or two before the new PIXEL XL will be launched.
I would love to own a new pixel xl but i cant justify the price. Ill stick with my 6p as it is the best phone ive ever owned. Maybe next years gPhone, if they learn their lesson.
Google is getting worse than Apple. It'd be nice to know if you could buy one device and it get timely stock Android updates for years. Old iPhones still getting updates, albeit they might be missing some features.
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That is completely unfair to Apple. Their hardware is gorgeous and robust, and the software just works (as long as you only use it as "uncle Steve" intended) and is, usually, far far more polished than anything available on Android. Case in point - the gyro and compass. Why do I need to manually recalibrate the compass on all Android phones I have ever owned to have the arrow pointing in the direction I am facing? And why do I never need to do this on my wife's iPhone, going back to at least one day he iPhone 3? Why do so many of us install the ios emojis over the grossly ugly ones from Google? These may seem like small things but they are part of the overall user experience.
Google is far more like Microsoft from the late 90s than Apple. Me too approaches, rough around the edges, and best suited for the pocket protector crowd that is willing to deal with the occasional BSOD for the sake of the ability to dink around.
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That is completely unfair to Apple. Their hardware is gorgeous and robust, and the software just works (as long as you only use it as "uncle Steve" intended) and is, usually, far far more polished than anything available on Android. Case in point - the gyro and compass. Why do I need to manually recalibrate the compass on all Android phones I have ever owned to have the arrow pointing in the direction I am facing? And why do I never need to do this on my wife's iPhone, going back to at least one day he iPhone 3? Why do so many of us install the ios emojis over the grossly ugly ones from Google? These may seem like small things but they are part of the overall user experience.
Google is far more like Microsoft from the late 90s than Apple. Me too approaches, rough around the edges, and best suited for the pocket protector crowd that is willing to deal with the occasional BSOD for the sake of the ability to dink around.
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Google are like a "beta" company. Scrapping hangouts for Allo and Duo is crazy as well it all feels very rough around the edges and scattergunned. I mean having Allo and Duo locked to one device.... WTF?!
I'm passing on pixel and if Google continues to dink around I'll either move to another Android maker or go back to Apple.
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I'm passing on pixel and if Google continues to dink around I'll either move to another Android maker or go back to Apple.
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See I won't. Longs my Nexus stays running fast and gets updates I rather stay with the phone I have. I'll wait till they come out with better looking pixel phones.
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See I won't. Longs my Nexus stays running fast and gets updates I rather stay with the phone I have. I'll wait till they come out with better looking pixel phones.
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The Nexus will get (official) updates until September 2017 and that's it. Not long away, sadly. I'm not even sure it'll get official "O".
B3501 said:
The Nexus will get (official) updates until September 2017 and that's it. Not long away, sadly. I'm not even sure it'll get official "O".
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We should get 1 more major Android update. ("O") when released
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We should get 1 more major Android update. ("O") when released
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Hopefully, yeah. Depends also if we get the whole 8 then 8.1 on the Pixel 2.
I cannot believe how pissed everyone is over this. You all act like Google has 7.1 complete for this phone and they're just not sending because of pixel. I highly doubt it's complete....it's not done and it might not be done because of pixel but who cares. Didn't we just get 7.0? We need major updates monthly now? Everyone is talking about going to Apple, go for it, if you don't end up back on Android I'd be surprised. I recently bought my wife and iPad pro for her birthday, it froze twice during setup....it doesn't "just work" any better than Android and it's boring as hell. The screen on my phone seems 100x better than it is on the iPad. If you want Apple to keep updating your four year old device making it unusable that's up to you.
I got my Nexus 9 32gb lte a few months ago from a local retailer (JBHIFI) and there has been a few issues that have since popped up and i'm looking for advice on what i should do. I should start out by saying that it was a floor model with literally nothing else besides the tablet. No charger, no box, no Htc manuals or warranty cards (i know what they look like thanks to my Htc one x and Htc one M9) but at half the retail price i thought it was a good deal. The screen looked good with very little backlight bleeding ( only at the top and bottom and you can't really tell if you're not looking for it) and the housing looked to be in good shape as well but after a few months the issues started to pop up. The first issue i noticed was the tablet gets pretty hot to the point where i can't touch it, I'm not sure if it's a nougat issue but i doubt it, it's specifically hot around the top half and there's a crunching sound when i press down around the top 1/4 of the tablet which leads me to believe the copper shield is having issues. Second issue is the battery life has also taken a pretty big hit, i used to be able to get 6+ hours sot (managed 7 hours once) and now I'm barely able to get 4 hours sot with it frequently only getting about 3 1/2 hours sot before i have to charge it. Third issue is the air bubbles in the corners of the screen. I've got 3 separate bubbles along the top of my nexus 9, one in the top left and one in the top right corner and a small strip very close to the right corner air bubble. I know i have consumer laws on my side in case JBHIFI decide to do nothing to help me and i could force the issue if i wanted to. I'd like to get it fixed but these issues are making me look at other options like a new tablet (not much to choose from though). Any advice would be a great help.
Cheers Mrbtree98
My advice (having one of the finicky ones for nearly 2 years) is to return it. I don't think mine has any actual hardware issues but requires frequent wipes (at least every 8-12 weeks) to avoid lag, freezes, and reboots. The back of the tab-near camera-does get hot especially when using Chrome but the bubble issue would concern me.
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ritchea said:
My advice (having one of the finicky ones for nearly 2 years) is to return it. I don't think mine has any actual hardware issues but requires frequent wipes (at least every 8-12 weeks) to avoid lag, freezes, and reboots. The back of the tab-near camera-does get hot especially when using Chrome but the bubble issue would concern me.
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Thanks for your reply. I went back to the store, spoke with the manager and they'll be taking it back with a full refund in the new year because of a massive hardware fault in his opinion. He asked if I could come back after the Christmas/Boxing Day madness which is fine with me. Thank you again for making up my mind on this.
I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better. I actually love the form factor, and when it's working well, the display is remarkable.
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I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better. I actually love the form factor, and when it's working well, the display is remarkable.
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I loved my Nexus 9 when i got it but these issues have put a serious dampener on my love with the nexus line, Especially when I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2012 and the 2013 (2012 died from either a mobo failure or a nand failure but the thing served me and later my dad well. The 2013 was easily my best tablet experience to date and still is). Like you said the screen is amazing (minus the bubble issue) and i love the form factor, it's just a shame that google went with the "lets price everything higher" approach which screwed over Aussies with $1000+ Pixels. (128gb Pixel XL comes in at almost $1500) I'll be keeping an eye out on CES and MWC to see what comes out on the tablet scene but i'm hoping for a Galaxy Tab S3 to get announced or for Lenovo to come out with something amazing as they're really the only players in the Australian market outside of windows 2 in 1's from Asus, Hp, etc, Ipads and the Surface lineup.
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I wish I could help with a suggestion for another tablet. The reason I still have mine is because I've found nothing better.
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Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
(Which is why I find my OnePlus 3 for instance with its 6gb of memory a godsend. It might be overkill but atleast I never ever have issues apps force closing etc due to no more memory available)
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I loved my Nexus 9 when i got it but these issues have put a serious dampener on my love with the nexus line, Especially when I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2012 and the 2013 (2012 died from either a mobo failure or a nand failure but the thing served me and later my dad well. The 2013 was easily my best tablet experience to date and still is). Like you said the screen is amazing (minus the bubble issue) and i love the form factor, it's just a shame that google went with the "lets price everything higher" approach which screwed over Aussies with $1000+ Pixels. (128gb Pixel XL comes in at almost $1500) I'll be keeping an eye out on CES and MWC to see what comes out on the tablet scene but i'm hoping for a Galaxy Tab S3 to get announced or for Lenovo to come out with something amazing as they're really the only players in the Australian market outside of windows 2 in 1's from Asus, Hp, etc, Ipads and the Surface lineup.
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My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
Pixel kosts around € 950,- for the 32gb version and around € 1175,- for the 128gb version in Europa). Which translates to around 1000~ 1250 dollars. Still not as bad as 1500 dollars but I will never ever in my life lay down that much money for just a phone.
Now, as far as recommended tablets go. I cannot recommend Samsung (We have a Tab Pro here aswell), simple verdict on that. Its slow, sluggish, comes with far too many un-installable system junk apps and Samsung can F*** right off with their locked bootloaders, anti-flash policies, KNOX and instant-warranty void if attempt to flash remotely anything.
If I were to count I'd say our Samsung Tab came with atleast 3~4 news apps which it will try to shove down your throat. (As they are baked into the default launcher so you can't even remove or disable them)
Maybe Sony/Lenovo comes out with a good tablet. The only other good aspect about N9 is that it features only Google default apps and very little to no bloat. So its rather clean.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
(Which is why I find my OnePlus 3 for instance with its 6gb of memory a godsend. It might be overkill but atleast I never ever have issues apps force closing etc due to no more memory available)
My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
Pixel kosts around € 950,- for the 32gb version and around € 1175,- for the 128gb version in Europa). Which translates to around 1000~ 1250 dollars. Still not as bad as 1500 dollars but I will never ever in my life lay down that much money for just a phone.
Now, as far as recommended tablets go. I cannot recommend Samsung (We have a Tab Pro here aswell), simple verdict on that. Its slow, sluggish, comes with far too many un-installable system junk apps and Samsung can F*** right off with their locked bootloaders, anti-flash policies, KNOX and instant-warranty void if attempt to flash remotely anything.
If I were to count I'd say our Samsung Tab came with atleast 3~4 news apps which it will try to shove down your throat. (As they are baked into the default launcher so you can't even remove or disable them)
Maybe Sony/Lenovo comes out with a good tablet. The only other good aspect about N9 is that it features only Google default apps and very little to no bloat. So its rather clean.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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The only reason i'm looking at a Galaxy Tab right now is because my mum and step dad came to visit and they both have a galaxy s7 edge and the thing bloody flies so i'm hoping that carries over to a future Tab S3 release if it ever comes out but you're right about the bloatware damn things came packed full of crap I wouldn't use but I think Samsung have actually bothered to optimize their skin more than in the past (before they upgraded, they had a galaxy S3 3g 1gig ram version and a og note and those things were turds) but i'll wait and see what happens as i'm not rooting or running custom roms anymore except on my old htc one x. (i'm alpha testing cm13 on it and it's going ok but damn are there issues we need to iron out). I don't think Sony is going to be doing another tablet even thought the z3 compact and the z4 were really good tablets from user and reviewer reports just from the amount of time between releases. It's been well over 18 months since the z4 tablet came out so i'm thinking they've pulled out of the tablet arena because of how poorly their mobile division is doing at the moment. I'm wary on lenovo because my dad had a bad experience with one of their recent 8" yoga tabs. Thing would constantly freeze, lockup then dad would have to reboot it manually so not the best experience there from a hardware point but the software is pretty bare bones and stock like but with lenovo icons, you get the standard google suite of apps and some lenovo additions, some are good and some are horrible (why they changed the look of multitasking and put in their own gallary i don't know but they ruined the look of the os and did not follow material design at all) but they're a more budget option so you get what you pay for. Asus is out as they don't sell their zenpad line here in Australia but i wouldn't have gone there anyways as their update support is absolutely woeful and i think their bloatware situation is worse the Samsung considering they let anyone buy there way in to get their apps installed. I would have looked at a pixel c but it's out of stock at google and some eBay sellers are asking $1000+ so that's out. I'm not in a hurry to get a new tablet thanks to my dad giving me the nexus 7 2013 i gave him back so I've got something to use in the meantime until something comes out at CES or MWC.
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Likewise, (and I think most people who use the N9 share this opinion)
When it works, its great. Sadly.....it doesn't always work great, biggest reason for this is that its a 64-bit android with only 2 gigs of memory. thus, your memory is 90% of the time near full capacity.
totally agree
My first nexus was the Nexus 5, after which I bought the N9. The N5 was a remarkable phone....the N9 also managed to kill my love for the nexus line.
I've owned Galaxy Nexus, N4, N5, both N7's. So, the N9 killed any trust for HTC, not Nexus. I got my older son 6P as his N4 was ageing out. Great phone! Too big for my hands, though. As my N5 was slowing down, I bought a 5X (after replacing DH's i4S with one and discovered I liked it). My first android was a pandigital novel which still works. I then got a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive.
Never thought I'd say this but, If you really need a good tablet. Personally, I'd recommend just getting an iPad instead (Coming from someone who uses 100% Android at all times)
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I even tried that as we had two in the family. I replaced older son's ipad 2 with Samsung Tab pro 12.2-both sons got one as they have 1000's of digital comics, and that tab was the best for that. Even after jailbreaking the iPad, it was far too restrictive for me. Loved the display on the iPad. I'm just really picky [emoji20]
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Well i took it back and the manager give me a full refund so that's the end of the nexus 9 experiment. Now to play the waiting game to see if any new tablets come out that are interesting.
Good luck.
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The presentation is really boring me. Was hoping apple would shake things up, who think they have? Tempted to return the note? I'm not at all. I await the mate 10, I think that might win the phone of 2017
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Yes!
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Definitive answer lol. Fair enough. What will they do in 2 years? They have to go straight to iPhone 11 lol. 9 will never be. Can't believe they pronounced it iPhone 10 lol
Mist definitely!! I mean, I just unboxed my Note 8 literally two hours ago, but i'm such a fanboy, that I just HAVE to have the newest, bestest things in life, even if my current device might be better than the newest bestest one that I'm jumping to. L.O.L.
No way in he*l. I'm never going back to the Apple eco system!
Try as I may, with each yearly unveiling of an Apple phone, I don't see anything that would yank me away from Android. Now I can't say the same for their accessories, because those always look cool and that wide size battery pad looks great, but the phones themselves, eh. Not enough to pull me away from Android. Especially if you compare any of those shown today with the Note8. The stylus on the Note8 is simply the best.
Taken with my note 8. This shouid answer your question I don't abandon I just add to the family lmao btw pictured g6 iPhone 7 plus s8 plus
I'm going to buy the iPhone x on day one, go straight home and put it on eBay for double the price
The cut out on the top of the X is very ugly
Wish note 8 could do 4k 60fps though....
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Wish note 8 could do 4k 60fps though....
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Would be nice. Wish note had upgraded hardware, just would have differentiated it from 6 month old s8! Samsung was lazy this time. Saving money from note 7 problems?
Anyway the benchmark for iPhone x are crazy powerful, but pointless. Current android hardware is powerful enough for anything. Battery technology should be what they concentrate on from now on. And new innovations
http://bgr.com/2017/09/12/iphone-x-benchmark-test-leak-a11-chip-performance/
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Taken with my note 8. This shouid answer your question I don't abandon I just add to the family lmao btw pictured g6 iPhone 7 plus s8 plus
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Baller...:fingers-crossed: :victory:
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The cut out on the top of the X is very ugly
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I agree! It looks ugly as s**t, I don't know what crApple was thinking with that move lol.
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Would be nice. Wish note had upgraded hardware, just would have differentiated it from 6 month old s8! Samsung was lazy this time. Saving money from note 7 problems?
Anyway the benchmark for iPhone x are crazy powerful, but pointless. Current android hardware is powerful enough for anything. Battery technology should be what they concentrate on from now on. And new innovations
http://bgr.com/2017/09/12/iphone-x-benchmark-test-leak-a11-chip-performance/
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The article doesn't say much other than iPhone is faster
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vadimo said:
The article doesn't say much other than iPhone is faster
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Heck even Apple won't tell you battery size. Wtf?
iPhone 7 WOW'd me more than the X...easily the ugliest phone of the year lol. looks like a iPhone 3 with a ugly full screen. every other phone company who decide to go with edge to edge screens made a good looking phone. I would be embarrassed to walk around with that thing on my ear. plus the price tag???????damn
Just seems really silly to all of a sudden decide to switch. If someone was that much on the line about which phone, why even bother pre ordering/buying the Note 8. The iPhone still to this day can't do what I need, its why I buy android. I can appreciate it from a distance but until I can install apps from unknown sources it will always be a no go for me. Lets not forget the pen and everything that goes with that. I dont have to screw with itunes, I can manage my files like a COMPUTER. I need something versatile, not shiny and new. I probably wouldnt have gotten the Note 8 if I didnt get half off the price to own it.
Stupid top bezel, No USB C, Hit and miss Face ID with no other biometric option, crappier screen and more expensive. No thanks. If anyone wants it, they you might wanna shell out £1200 for the 256GB iPhone X as the [email protected] will eat your storage in seconds lmao.
Can't wait for my Note8
I heard that T-Mobile is doing a BOGO offer for the iPhone X, so that comes out to be $500 per phone, which isn't bad, providing one wants to get the X. Personally, I'll stay with my Note8. I really love that thing.
How would one go from the Note8 to that? That's like moving backwards.