Huawei informed us last year that they'll be releasing Lollipop in the second quarter of 2015. 5 months and 3 days have already passed and if wasn't for a glimpse they provided some months ago, I would have found it difficult that our HAM2 will ever be updated.
I received my 1+1 about a month ago and tried Lollipop on it. I am not particularly impressed by Lollipop. I had to reinstall kitkat. Lollipop is over-simplified and has lots of white.
Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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I got ya. I agree. I am still hopeful they release Lollipop soon. They aren't the best at this kind of stuff though. Their track record is fairly poor related to supporting existing devices. I think they are trying to be better, though. Time will tell.
Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
I asked them on Instagram and got the usual "Thank you, we don't know anything, we'll tell you something when nothing does everything." kind of comment.
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Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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Yes, thanks. I'm well aware that they have different hardware.
I said to moan as US customers were told an update would be released in the first quarter of the year..... That hasn't happened.
I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I actually bought the 1+1 after reading rave reviews about it almost everywhere. I initially intended to keep the 1+1 and give my dad my HAM2. For some reason, the mate 2 was too good to give up. It has everything I want in a phone; large screen, very long battery life, fast, smooth transitions and most importantly it doesn't get hot like a stove. Anyway, at the end, I kept the HAM2 and gave my dad the 1+1. Seriously, I gave up the 1+1 with all its laudatory specs for the HAM2 and I have no regrets.
This phone's screen is too freaking big for me. I already have a tablet, don't need another one thanks. Unfortunately I can't afford to upgrade it right now so I'm stuck with it. And now Xposed broke so now I'm stuck with the ugly grey nav bar and enormous DPI. (EDIT: Nvm, I fixed that.) Seriously, why did Huawei artificially raise the DPI, the native 240 looks so much better than the stock 320, makes everything look much smaller and crisper and gives you more real estate.
I just want Lollipop. Then I'll see if it's worth keeping this phone or if I should make upgrading a priority.
At least the battery life is nice, but that's about all I can say is going for this phone, and I'm willing to bet in part that's because of the lower res (720p) screen.
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Honestly, I love everything about this phone. It seems like an all around great phone with a great look and a very attractive price tag. The only thing that's putting me off is the fact that it's still stuck on 4.3 and with L coming out in the coming months, it's going to be two generations behind. Did the lack of Kitkat ever bother you guys who already have the phone? Do you think you'll regret not having Lollipop?
Originally I didn't care about anything but the battery life, which is still amazing (2-3 days of usage for me.) I thought root would definitely be an issue, since it seems approximately 15 people in the whole world have this phone (and they're all on this forum), but we still got root.
As with the OS updates, I knew the chances would be slim but hey, Huawei just gave out 15 Mate2's to ROM developers. Maybe we'll be getting ports soon! They even said it themselves.
Yeah me too, the only thing I care about is the battery. As for being stuck on JB I really don't care, I mean it works perfect. I'm sure we will get some Roms going soon enough.
Sent from my MT2L03
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Originally I didn't care about anything but the battery life, which is still amazing (2-3 days of usage for me.) I thought root would definitely be an issue, since it seems approximately 15 people in the whole world have this phone (and they're all on this forum), but we still got root.
As with the OS updates, I knew the chances would be slim but hey, Huawei just gave out 15 Mate2's to ROM developers. Maybe we'll be getting ports soon! They even said it themselves.
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What's about this giving out of ROM's? When did this happen?
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What's about this giving out of ROM's? When did this happen?
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15 Mate2's were given out:
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15 - Mate2's were given away at the Big Android BBQ event in Hurst. Paranoid Android, Cyanogen, SlimRom, TWRP, are just a few to name. Some of the best developers will have there hands on these units now and we'll start seeing some beta's floating around soon.
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That's awesome! I would love to have CM or PA, especially with Lollipop, on the HAM2. It would make us independent of Huawei USA's slow software updates. Hopefully this happens.
See my impressions of the Mate 2 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/initial-user-impression-ham2-potential-t2919887
Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Here's the link for more information! CONGRATS HUAWEI!!!
http://bit.ly/1HuK1jc
thanks
thanks for posting the link, as you can see from my number of post i am unable to do so at this time
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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http://blog.gethuawei.com/huawei-device-pleased-announce-android-lollipop/ there ya go
I kind of thought that this would happen. I mean, this is their (Huawei's) first venture into the U.S. phone market. They could screw over their entire fan base, or just update the phone. They made the right move.
I wonder just how fugly Huawei L will be...
I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
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They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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I, for one, will let others be the early adopters of this upgrade, when and if it becomes available! If, after a few weeks, it seems stable and reliable, I might try it.
Won't really matter to me one bit. If it never gets an update, I'm keeping it.
4.3 is flat stable, and I'll take that over the newest OS any day.
I'm sure 5.0 will do nothing but improve the HAM2, but, I'm sure it will have to
be patched a few times to work out the inevitable bugs. Bless the ones that will
jump at the alpha, beta versions, leaks etc...but once it is released, I'll let you early
adopters play with it. This thing is my work device away from the office, and I don't
have time for FC's & reboots.
There outta be some kind of medal for you guys that flash the newest OS... :good:
I know some of you don't care if you're still using froyo, but...
JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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Theoretically, everything you say is correct, and if it turns out to work that way in reality, I'll welcome the upgrade, when and if it comes. But I've been burned in the past by upgrades, so I'll be very happy to hold back while you go first and find out if there are any nasty surprises lurking behind that fancy interface.
I like what I've seen of Lollipop so far, but if it doesn't work well on this phone, I'll be perfectly content to stick with JellyBean and have a phone that actually works.
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Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
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Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
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If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
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If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
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Thanks p51d007. I don't necessarily need the latest OS. but I also don't want to miss out on new features being added to new versions of Android. But I think I am gonna go ahead and pick one up! thanks for the feedback
so they said first quarter.... Has there been any news on if/when? Should we just assume April?
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so they said first quarter.... Has there been any news on if/when? Should we just assume April?
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They actually said first half, not first quarter. Honestly I'll be shocked if it gets updated.
At this point, I don't even care about Huawei's Lollipop. I'm starting to doubt it will happen.
I'll just wait quietly for CM12. :good:
Won't matter. I'm sticking with what mine came with. It's fast & STABLE. Unless the time comes an app REQUIRES
5.x, I'm leaving mine alone. You know that if/when 5 is released, it will probably take a couple of updates to fix bugs that
will pop up, plus, Huawei, like any other device manufacturer wants people to buy new devices, so it is always in their best
interest, be it a manufacturer, carrier provider or whoever, to not push updates, but talk people into throwing away a 1 year
old device, and buying a new one. It's just business...not saying its right, but that is the way it is.
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Won't matter. I'm sticking with what mine came with. It's fast & STABLE. Unless the time comes an app REQUIRES
5.x, I'm leaving mine alone. You know that if/when 5 is released, it will probably take a couple of updates to fix bugs that
will pop up, plus, Huawei, like any other device manufacturer wants people to buy new devices, so it is always in their best
interest, be it a manufacturer, carrier provider or whoever, to not push updates, but talk people into throwing away a 1 year
old device, and buying a new one. It's just business...not saying its right, but that is the way it is.
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Not true actually. People won't buy from a manufacturer that doesn't release updates. Plain and simple as that. It's in their best interest to update to new version. If you watched what happened when they said they wouldn't release KitKat you would know that.
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Not true actually. People won't buy from a manufacturer that doesn't release updates. Plain and simple as that. It's in their best interest to update to new version. If you watched what happened when they said they wouldn't release KitKat you would know that.
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I'm starting to suspect this guy might be getting some sort of kickback from Huawei or something . He consistently pops up in any thread about updates to quickly disregard it and sing the praises of the current build. He always throws that little hint of doubt that the new build might be buggy and won't be as stable or good as it currently is. It's just a little fishy.
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I'm starting to suspect this guy might be getting some sort of kickback from Huawei or something . He consistently pops up in any thread about updates to quickly disregard it and sing the praises of the current build. He always throws that little hint of doubt that the new build might be buggy and won't be as stable or good as it currently is. It's just a little fishy.
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I don't think Huawei would endorse what he just said, nor would they be likely to give him any sort of kickback for saying it! Seriously, read it again and ask yourself if that's really likely.
He's a bit of a missionary, but what has he said that isn't true? Does anyone seriously think that new builds are not often buggy? As someone who moved to Huawei and the Mate 2 because of dissatisfaction with the bugginess of KitKat on the Nexus 4, I'm in agreement with him. When and IF Huawei releases Lollipop for this phone, I'll let the eager early adopters dive in first while I wait until (and if) it's been shown to be stable and reliable before I'll consider installing it.
Clearly the part of manufactures niy releasing updates is good for them. As my post clearly states. Customers do not buy from manufactures that don't update their products.
Every device has bugs. Feel free to run a logcat and see for yourself. The goal is to minimize them and eliminate the ones which are or could become a threat to the operating system.
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I'm starting to suspect this guy might be getting some sort of kickback from Huawei or something . He consistently pops up in any thread about updates to quickly disregard it and sing the praises of the current build. He always throws that little hint of doubt that the new build might be buggy and won't be as stable or good as it currently is. It's just a little fishy.
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He's just voicing his opinion. And what he says is obviously true. All Android releases have had bugs. Even iOS releases.
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Clearly the part of manufactures niy releasing updates is good for them. As my post clearly states. Customers do not buy from manufactures that don't update their products.
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You may well be right about that, but I don't see a lot of evidence. Everyone of us with a Mate 2 bought a device from a manufacturer with a history of not providing updates. Either we did it knowingly, or we didn't bother to check.
One thing I haven't said, and I should, is that I do appreciate the adventurous users and developers who charge into unknown territory while those of us who are timid are holding back, waiting to find out just how bad the new bugs are this time. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from trying the latest and the greatest, as long as they understand the risks.
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I'm starting to suspect this guy might be getting some sort of kickback from Huawei or something . He consistently pops up in any thread about updates to quickly disregard it and sing the praises of the current build. He always throws that little hint of doubt that the new build might be buggy and won't be as stable or good as it currently is. It's just a little fishy.
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I wish I was getting a kickback! I just am happy with the device being STABLE. On my old Note1, even though Samsung never officially supported anything past 4.1.2, I was happy with it because it was STABLE. There were threads on XDA with build after build of this rom or that rom with 4.4.x and they all had this or that issue. When I find a build that is flat stable, unless another build is as stable, and all of my apps and features are working, I LEAVE IT ALONE.
I work on machines and when I was in my 20's (now in my 50's) a manufacturer came out with some new software, that was on 12, 32 pin e-proms. I promptly went out that day and updated all of my customers machines, 14 of them, with 12 chips per machine. 2 days later, the manufacturer issued a recall, and I had to go out, tear them all down, load the old chips back into them, restore all the user information back into them. THAT was my earliest lesson in "if it ain't broke, DON'T fix it.
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I wish I was getting a kickback! I just am happy with the device being STABLE. On my old Note1, even though Samsung never officially supported anything past 4.1.2, I was happy with it because it was STABLE. There were threads on XDA with build after build of this rom or that rom with 4.4.x and they all had this or that issue. When I find a build that is flat stable, unless another build is as stable, and all of my apps and features are working, I LEAVE IT ALONE.
I work on machines and when I was in my 20's (now in my 50's) a manufacturer came out with some new software, that was on 12, 32 pin e-proms. I promptly went out that day and updated all of my customers machines, 14 of them, with 12 chips per machine. 2 days later, the manufacturer issued a recall, and I had to go out, tear them all down, load the old chips back into them, restore all the user information back into them. THAT was my earliest lesson in "if it ain't broke, DON'T fix it.
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I guess my skepticism comes from your repeated insistence that the current build is so perfectly stable. It has it's fair share of bugs. The audio cutting out is a pretty common one that I've had to work through a couple times. Any time I have a Google Calendar reminder pop up, calendar crashes over and over again until I dismiss the reminder. It reboots randomly about once a week. Switching from portrait to landscape is slow and inconsistent at best. Let's not forget about that looping reboot that occurred during a random Amazon update a few months back (that did not affect any other phone). I had to do a factory reset because of that which is a major pain. Not to mention the bugs with Emo, which is just a hot mess of an Android skin, make it practically mandatory that you put a new launcher on it. This phone is the buggiest Android phone I've ever had. Its only saving grace is the ridiculous battery. I want an update to make it less buggy, and yet I keep seeing you drop into threads talking about how stable the phone is. Can you see why I might not trust that your intentions are on the up and up?
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I guess my skepticism comes from your repeated insistence that the current build is so perfectly stable. It has it's fair share of bugs. The audio cutting out is a pretty common one that I've had to work through a couple times. Any time I have a Google Calendar reminder pop up, calendar crashes over and over again until I dismiss the reminder. It reboots randomly about once a week. Switching from portrait to landscape is slow and inconsistent at best. Let's not forget about that looping reboot that occurred during a random Amazon update a few months back (that did not affect any other phone). I had to do a factory reset because of that which is a major pain. Not to mention the bugs with Emo, which is just a hot mess of an Android skin, make it practically mandatory that you put a new launcher on it. This phone is the buggiest Android phone I've ever had. Its only saving grace is the ridiculous battery. I want an update to make it less buggy, and yet I keep seeing you drop into threads talking about how stable the phone is. Can you see why I might not trust that your intentions are on the up and up?
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Thanks for this. It's a good reminder that we can have very different experiences with the same device. I haven't had these problems. If I did, I'm sure I'd be very eager for an update, or anything else that might offer hope of improvement.
Of course, there's no guarantee that an update will fix your problems. In my case, Lollipop did solve my problems with the Nexus 4. I could go back to that phone now, if I had to. But I like the Mate 2 (Jelly Bean notwithstanding) too much. Meanwhile, I see lots of Nexus 4 owners complaining of bugs in Lollipop and saying that KitKat was much better.
FWIW, I do experience a few bugs in Jelly Bean on the Mate 2. But the ones I have are minor and I've learned to deal with them. So, like p51d007, I regard it as a stable, working system. I understand your viewpoint much better now.
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The audio cutting out is a pretty common one that I've had to work through a couple times. Any time I have a Google Calendar reminder pop up, calendar crashes over and over again until I dismiss the reminder. It reboots randomly about once a week. Switching from portrait to landscape is slow and inconsistent at best. Let's not forget about that looping reboot that occurred during a random Amazon update a few months back (that did not affect any other phone). I had to do a factory reset because of that which is a major pain. Not to mention the bugs with Emo, which is just a hot mess of an Android skin, make it practically mandatory that you put a new launcher on it.
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I have experienced/still experience these things. Every single thing in every single sentence here. Except for the Amazon app.
I only have a few issues. Since the update my camera screen focuses but the picture is blurry... it use to be the screen was blurry and the picture was good. I'd rather go back
I also think it might help with even better battery life, and also activate the "OK Google" hot-word from any screen....
That's about all my complaints. And I'm an early adopter so I'll give it a go when/if it ever comes out.
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I guess my skepticism comes from your repeated insistence that the current build is so perfectly stable. It has it's fair share of bugs. The audio cutting out is a pretty common one that I've had to work through a couple times. Any time I have a Google Calendar reminder pop up, calendar crashes over and over again until I dismiss the reminder. It reboots randomly about once a week. Switching from portrait to landscape is slow and inconsistent at best. Let's not forget about that looping reboot that occurred during a random Amazon update a few months back (that did not affect any other phone). I had to do a factory reset because of that which is a major pain. Not to mention the bugs with Emo, which is just a hot mess of an Android skin, make it practically mandatory that you put a new launcher on it. This phone is the buggiest Android phone I've ever had. Its only saving grace is the ridiculous battery. I want an update to make it less buggy, and yet I keep seeing you drop into threads talking about how stable the phone is. Can you see why I might not trust that your intentions are on the up and up?
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Yes, completely understandable. I suppose I "got lucky" and got one free of bugs. I do have one annoyance though.
That once a day pop up not to listen to loud music :cyclops:
Got to remember we are posting on XDA. Which is here exactly for modding and developing android.....
This is no way to penetrate the US market. Huawei
I heard rumors that Huawei was inline to build the next Nexus device. I really doubt that is the case now..
If they are not going to update there phones they might as well leave the US market or just build cheap $99 phones.
Only Moto or Nexus for me from now on!
Also I was highly pissed at Moto for not updating my old Phone but they changed my mind with the Moto X 2013 that they have kept up to date so far!
Huawei Go home! My
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I heard rumors that Huawei was inline to build the next Nexus device. I really doubt that is the case now..
If they are not going to update there phones they might as well leave the US market or just build cheap $99 phones.
Only Moto or Nexus for me from now on!
Also I was highly pissed at Moto for not updating my old Phone but they changed my mind with the Moto X 2013 that they have kept up to date so far!
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They are working on a Nexus, as well as LG again (possible 2015 Nexus 5?). Huawei wants to expand to the west. The best way to do that would be in a Nexus phone, since most people cringe at the idea of Chinese software, as if their own government doesn't spy on them. And since the Mate 2 was supposed to be their break in America, it only makes sense to build good relations using it.
They aren't doing a great job, but at least they are trying. I didn't expect this phone to get any updates when I got it.
I just got done reading the 1+1 vs HAM2 and it confirmed that the screen size and resolution and specs is solid deal with this phone. I am coming from a SGH-i727.
But I am still worried about the longevity of the HAM2 and it's community. I fear we won't get any roms or only a few will come and that will be it and then it will die off. Am I wrong for believing this? It's been almost a year since this device was release and Huawei hasn't release anything and we only have one really good developer working on Kitkat, good bless you. But other than that, that's it.
Carrier wise, I don't see much for Byo Wireless and this device, but I assume it will work because they are based on verizon's network and that's supported with them. I am currently on At&t but I will probably be leaving for the above mentioned carrier. Has anyone used them before with this phone?
The large screen, unlocked phone, and a great community with lots of roms is a big deal to me. Is the HAM2 the right choice for me? Thanks for all future replies.
I own both 1+1 64 GB and HAM MT2L03. Both the devices are fabulous in their class and honestly I will not be able to pick one over the other.
For battery life, HAM beats OPO hands down. So if that is important, go for it.
On all other areas they are close contenders. I have the same apps loaded on both and they run as well as each other. Of course. Opo has more ram and a faster CPU.
The stock email app on HAM is very basic. OPO has the kitkat version which supports swipe to delete etc. and I prefer that version.
Other than the stock email app downside, HAM has upsides in terms of great power mgmt app built in and phone cache cleaner etc. that are so best in class.
I find these more important than the Android version on HAM. So while it would be nice to get lollipop sometime, the phone is very much functional without it. Go ahead and get one!
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to my thread. I am just worried we won't get any custom roms at all, but dang, HAM2 seems so amazing. The screen size alone is one of the best features of this extremely mid-range phone. The battery life is really nice as well. This means a lot coming from someone that owns GS2, which eats up batteries for snacks.
Where would you recommend getting one? I think, Amazon is the best best. I haven't read great things about WalMarts' or Targets' cheaper version.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Mate-Factory-Unlocked-Black/dp/B00JPIAGW0/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t
We've got a few developers working on bringing KK and L to our phone. Huawei has said we will get a Huawei version of Lollipop, though that is still yet to come. If it ever will. We also have another developer who brought TWRP to our phone, and our phone is even officially supported by them.
It's not much, but it's still much better than where we were a few months ago. It can only get better. :good:
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We've got a few developers working on bringing KK and L to our phone. Huawei has said we will get a Huawei version of Lollipop, though that is still yet to come. If it ever will. We also have another developer who brought TWRP to our phone, and our phone is even officially supported by them.
It's not much, but it's still much better than where we were a few months ago. It can only get better. :good:
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I talked to one of Huawei's customer care workers yesterday about the release date for Lollipop update. As usual he didn't commit himself. He said first half of 2015! At least they haven't reneged on their promise.
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I talked to one of Huawei's customer care workers yesterday about the release date for Lollipop update. As usual he didn't commit himself. He said first half of 2015! At least they haven't reneged on their promise.
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Well we're already almost halfway through the "first half of 2015". Hopefully we get some news soon.
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I have already bought the phone and a case, because of everyone's great advice. I may get another cxase though. But I have no faith in Huawei's support team getting us our updates. We were suppose to get KK and that never came even though they made the promise when the phone was release. Our awesome devs will come through though! Do you have their G+ or other social media outlets?
We should pool together to support their time and effort. We could do this by a new thread and gathering important information and support for them and linking to their paypale. I believe this within the forum's rules as individuals can leave a donate link at the end of their postings. It will help out the whole Ham2 community. What is everyone's thoughts on this idea?
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We should pool together to support their time and effort. We could do this by a new thread and gathering important information and support for them and linking to their paypal. I believe this within the forum's rules as individuals can leave a donate link at the end of their postings. It will help out the whole Ham2 community. What is everyone's thoughts on this idea?
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This is the developer's G+ page [https://plus.google.com/app/basic/+TomMarshall/]. He has explicitly stated that his work is courtesy of cyanogen, so he doesn't take donations.
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This is the developer's G+ page [https://plus.google.com/app/basic/+TomMarshall/]. He has explicitly stated that his work is courtesy of cyanogen, so he doesn't take donations.
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I wanted to donate Google Play credit or something like that but it turns out they don't do that.
He deserves it though! Throw us amazon wish page or something similar. Haha! Without this development, our devices might be, and probably will be left behind!
Well to be frank I would have a lot of fun developing for this phone but I haven't found a hack successful at unlocking the bootloader for this device and support from Huawei has been an epic fail so my wife and daughter uses it more than I do :-/
Well bear in mind that it's still the Spring Festival over in China now. I wouldn't expect much until that's over. Try getting the boot unlock code after that and you might have better luck!
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:crying: I just got this email to fill out to beta test Nougut.
Looks like we should get it on February or March.
Received email, completed survey. In a supreme cosmic coincidence, I got the email moments after picking up my Daydream VR. The universe is sending me a sign!
I think that they might be releasing Nougat without Daydream initially. If the new questionnaire is any indication because they asked a lot of questions about Daydream capability.Also, it takes, at least, 7 days to verify a rom with Google. So unless they already have a nougat rom cooked (maybe without daydream?), it's definitely slipping to February.
Paging @DrakenFX. I told you we won't be getting nougat
Truly disappointing. Glad that I sold my A7 today.
Yes, very disappointing if true! That nearly borders on false advertising, in fact. It would be a shame to buy a 'daydream ready' phone when in fact it is not daydream ready.
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I think that they might be releasing Nougat without Daydream initially. If the new questionnaire is any indication because they asked a lot of questions about Daydream capability.Also, it takes, at least, 7 days to verify a rom with Google. So unless they already have a nougat rom cooked (maybe without daydream?), it's definitely slipping to February.
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Eh...Long update. But at least the beta testing proves that they care about bug testing. THAT, I can get around.
At this rate, it seems like end of feb might be a possibility. I'm suspecting probably end of q1..
This sucks big time.
Anyone looking to buy an A7? My Huawei Mate 9 arrives today.
Filled the form out. Found the "Is your phone rooted" question interesting. I don't remember that being on the first one.
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Filled the form out. Found the "Is your phone rooted" question interesting. I don't remember that being on the first one.
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Yeah I got that too and answer yes. Figured I don't really care if I get in or not, cause my ? will be running LinageOS 14.1.
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Yeah I got that too and answer yes. Figured I don't really care if I get in or not, cause my will be running LinageOS 14.1.
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Yeah, Answered yes too. Hoping maybe they are looking for some rooted users to test updating from a rooted device or something. Ether way LOS looks like they will be releasing soon so not worried.
All you people complaining, wouldn't you rather wait longer for a bug free update? A lot of OEMs are having trouble with Nougat and if it takes them till March then so be it because I want MiFavor to be fixed.
All the people are complaining here, but hey Motorola also did this. The Moto Z Play was scheduled for Nougat update in December but latest updates point to a feb-march release. If you really want those updates so much buy a Pixel for twice the price.
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All the people are complaining here, but hey Motorola also did this. The Moto Z Play was scheduled for Nougat update in December but latest updates point to a feb-march release. If you really want those updates so much buy a Pixel for twice the price.
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Exactly. I don't get why people are acting like Nougat is the Holy Grail and they'll die if they don't get it.
Android has changed a lot. I remember the wait for Lollipop when the newest Android version was 4.x, and for a good reason: Lollipop changed a lot about Android, and I'd lay a claim that it changed more than the M->N update. I don't have a lot of hope that ZTE would give the Nougat on Axon 7 a top notch UI flow, but I do hope silly stuff get fixed (ie excessive background killing due to app battery consumption, big ugly "clear all" button that gets mistakenly pressed all the time). Daydream... I'm not sure. Depends on the headset and also more importantly, actual good games that get released on the platform.
Here it goes
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-android-nougat-update-delayed-745386/
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Here it goes
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-android-nougat-update-delayed-745386/
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I saw that story today, looked at the calendar and realized one big contributing factor: Chinese New Year is on Saturday. A billion people are currently taking trips to their home towns to celebrate for two weeks, then travel back to the city. Not much gets done for about three weeks around the holiday. Hopefully around the middle of February they'll be back to parse what the second round of beta testing brings up, in which case... maybe end of Feb, early March we'll get Nougat, if all goes smoothly.
I'm a little disappointed, but it's not a big deal for me. I'm pretty happy with the phone as is.