On the NExus7 there is the Timurs kernel that allows OTG+charging at the same time. Do we have anything like this for the HDX (7")?
I'm using the fire in my car (permanently installed) and I need the OTG connection to an arduino (that parses the GMLan CANBUS packets) and I need to charge at the same time.
You got otg to work on your hdx? Sweet. As for charging, I am not sure. Sorry.
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On the NExus7 there is the Timurs kernel that allows OTG+charging at the same time. Do we have anything like this for the HDX (7")?
I'm using the fire in my car (permanently installed) and I need the OTG connection to an arduino (that parses the GMLan CANBUS packets) and I need to charge at the same time.
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Whoa - OTG on an HDX? That would be a first! Please share how this was accomplished. Might provide a clue on how to enable simultaneous charging.
LOL, there is no OTG support running CM11 on it?
Honestly I just assumed that a modern tablet would have OTG support, guess I was wrong then. :/
lol, the guys are clearly too excited to read this properly; he was ASKING if OTG and charging were possible.
1) OTG - not at this time; there's been suggestions that it might be possible on WiFi devices but current kernels etc don't allow it and it's not THAT high on the priority list from what I've seen.
2) OTG on LTE models - there's been a suggestion that the power line usually provided to allow OTG might be diverted to the LTE module on those modules. Again, OTG might be possible with kernel support but devices attached would need to be powered on their own (or through a hub)
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I have a xbox 360 wireless gaming receiver and wondering if i could sync this receiver with my HTC flyer
Purpose:
So I can sync an xbox controller to my emulators
Something like what this person did
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Omyv6YzBmA
Only thing I need is an micro usb to standard usb adapter, but I am wondering if any adapter will work syncing xbox controller with the htc flyer
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-Male-Female-Adapter/dp/B0027YYMU6
You need to know if the Flyer supports OTG or not, the Xoom does. That's the cable that guy is using in that video. I'm not sure if it's supported on the Flyer.
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It looks like the Flyer doesn't support USB host, as some things would need modifying from the searches I've done. You could buy the $2 item and try it, but it most likely will not work.
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Lol, Ill get it and try it out.
But it doesn't make sense, how can HDMI out work from the Usb port but it cannot host material
I read the 3.1 honey comb port should enable usb hosting, any idea if thats true?
The two are not in any way related, however when I looked at the modules loaded it appeared that the HC rom would support usb host.
I sent an email to HTC this is what they said:
Unfortunately, your tablet cannot be used as a USB host at this time. You may want to download a 3rd party application from the Android Market that would allow you to monitor access points. Remember, HTC does not support any third party applications. When HTC documentation makes reference to third-party products or services, we do so on an "as is" basis with no implied warranty or guarantees about the functionality or suitability of the product. We offer such references merely as education for customers wishing to explore different options.Please consult the product vendor's written help materials, web site support resources, or contact representatives of the vendor for assistance.
Any idea what 3rd party aps could do this?
Honeycomb and ICS supports USB ports.
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I think the port does work in usb host mode but it is not powered, so you need to use a powered hub to get anything to work. This has been discussed before, do a search and see what you find.
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082909
Works in HC but you need a powered USB hub. Maybe it will work without a hub in the official HC release?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17562960&postcount=29
Yes it works in HC , you must use a powered hub
I would like to be able to hook up a hard drive if we ever get honeycomb. I have just enough knowledge that I am certain I would brick my device if I try the HC leak install on my BB Flyer, so I am impatiently waiting for the OTA update.
Anyway, can I hook up a hard drive with external power or do I have to have a powered hub? I have successfully used a portable usb drive and a Y-cable with power end plugged into a usb battery before where host was enabled on my Gen 7 Archos, but there wasn't enough power to actually run the drive. Do you think this setup will work on the Flyer with HC?
AS long as your hard drive will run without any power from the Flyer and is properly formatted (FAT32) it should work with or without a hub
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I would like to be able to hook up a hard drive if we ever get honeycomb. I have just enough knowledge that I am certain I would brick my device if I try the HC leak install on my BB Flyer, so I am impatiently waiting for the OTA update.
Anyway, can I hook up a hard drive with external power or do I have to have a powered hub? I have successfully used a portable usb drive and a Y-cable with power end plugged into a usb battery before where host was enabled on my Gen 7 Archos, but there wasn't enough power to actually run the drive. Do you think this setup will work on the Flyer with HC?
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It should work with any device that that does not require that it be powered by USB for example the external powered hard drive you mentioned. For directly connected devices only low power devices such as pen drives would work, rotational disks will most likely require a powered hub/battery to operate.
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AS long as your hard drive will run without any power from the Flyer and is properly formatted (FAT32) it should work with or without a hub
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so no support for NTFS or EXT3?
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so no support for NTFS or EXT3?
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It depends on drivers, and how vold works. Ext3 should work, or could definitely be made to work. I've never tried NTFS so can't comment on that.
It is my understanding that android natively supports usb. My question is, if I get a micro usb to usb adapter, and then plug in a usb keyboard, I would be able to use the keyboard to type documents. Any thoughts?
(I have a rooted nook, but I got the update before I could block them, will revert back soon)
currently no. The android or in this case nook skinned android kernel has to support usb host and usb keyboard inputs which it doesn't. But it probably will in the future when the devs release android 4.0, because ICS needs a different kernel then the current nook tablet kernel. But anyway what keyboard do you have, because you can only connect bluetooth keyboards and also only if the developers can enable bluetooth on the nook.
It also depends on the hardware support. I don't know if the TI chip has a host-only port, or if it supports OTG (On-The-Go) dual mode operation. It probably does, but I've not seen anybody verify that.
it doesn't support USB keyboards. I have a female USB to micro USB for my galaxy S2. I tried to get a USB sick and 2.4GHz mouse and keyboard on the nook but nothing worked, and yes it both works on my galaxy with the stock ROM
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The NT can support usb gadgets and usb hubs but it need to be enabled in the rom and the must have the module, the NC has this feature and i hope our great devs can implement this on the NT.
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im looking to use a usb 3g modem myself with my tablet ,
ive read a bit on the latest engadget article about the other older e paper nook that was done with a usb keyboard i even went as far as to contact the guy who did it and he told me what to look for , hardware wise to see if the NT could do it ,
yet without kernel support or the module being compiled into the kernel we have already on the tablet , theres not much hope , but i believe it can and will be done , if not im gonna have to get an ipad with a 3g data card in it cause i have to have data access wifi hotspots just not cutting it..
I'm going to a part of Japan where there's more wired internet than wireless.
Can I connect my Galaxy S3 straight to wired internet? I have an OTG USB cable with which the S3 works fine with hubs, mice, keyboards and storage. I have a Hawking USB to wired ethernet (RJ45) adapter. When I plug it all together the adapter lights up green but nothing happens. Is this a software/driver issue and is there an app which overcomes it?
I'm NOT interested in lugging a netbook with me, or any stuff about tethering, or expensive 3G. I will take my Netgear wireless travel router WGR101 "hotspot" if I have to.
Mainly I just want to connect the S3 to an ethernet cable.
Thank you.
Mod
There might be a mod out there, i know the transformer tablets support this, but it will be intresting to find out...
My tablet connects to wired internet first time using its OTG connector and the Hawking USB/RJ45 adapter. It's a 7" Eken MB702C using Allwinner Tech Boxchip ARM Cortex™-A8 1.2GHz and running Android 2.3.4. If it can do it, why can't an S3? Is it hardware or drivers and rom? Thanks.
Have you tried using the usb tethering option?
It's purely drivers. USB-OTG has backward-compatibility to standard USB2.0 so it can use any USB-device it can provide enough juice for.
However the kernel has to recognize the USB device and load/activate the corresponding drivers. Then the uerland scripts configuring the (DHCP) IP-address and other settings have to kick in.
Of course ur right d4fseeker, but now what drivers to install? My kernel is 3.0.15 and I really want the eth0 (ethernet interface from cable) in backtrack 5 on my phone... so what can I do??? I have a usb OTG connector that works perfectly with mouses and joysticks but that isnt working with any of my two ethernet to usb (the ethernet to usb shows a light but on the s3 it doesnt show anything because the kernel doesnt recognize it) How to enable the recognition of the ethernet by the kernel ? WHAT DRIVERS?! Thank you.
PS: Does anyone know how to enable monitor mode on samsung galaxy s3 ive seen this post :
bcmon.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/working-monitor-mode-on-nexus-one.html?m=1
but it didnt work for s3 ...
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you could use the command-line dmesg in Backtrack to show which module is loaded
it's hard to find and explain it on a forum but if you've got skype et al we could try it live
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Are you answering to the first or to the second question ? Im sorry but im lost my main vocation is cracking, not programming...
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Take a look at the SiyahKernel (www.gokhanmoral.com). It allows you to add additional drivers to the kernel, if it has not already.
the problem is finding the proper driver and build it to specs.
Of course, thanks for the link
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I wish someone will create a .ko file to insmod on the kernel 3.0.15 of my s3... a ko file that enables the ethernet... who can build it?
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you could use the command-line dmesg in Backtrack to show which module is loaded
it's hard to find and explain it on a forum but if you've got skype et al we could try it live
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I want to do it on my S3, I am from India & want to connect my office Ethernet Cable to it to access my office site.
Can we do it thru skype, will you pls help me in this regard
my Kernel version is : 3.0.31 - 488302
I'm keen to see this progress too - but i wouldnt know where to start with compiling it into the kernel or inserting the mods. The drivers are present in the tablet builds - for example I have it working on the nexus 7 - so porting shouldnt be too hard. Just hope that one of the kernel dev teams has the time and interest to look at this......
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I'm keen to see this progress too - but i wouldnt know where to start with compiling it into the kernel or inserting the mods. The drivers are present in the tablet builds - for example I have it working on the nexus 7 - so porting shouldnt be too hard. Just hope that one of the kernel dev teams has the time and interest to look at this......
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Yes exactly..
kingofcracking said:
Yes exactly..
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Any kernel devs out there willing to give this a go and compile the common android tablet Ethernet drivers into an S3 kernel?
gingerneil said:
Any kernel devs out there willing to give this a go and compile the common android tablet Ethernet drivers into an S3 kernel?
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Yeah
You can buy an adapter on eBay, it is about the size of a pack of cards / cigarette pack. Plug the ethernet cable from the hotel into the unit and it then makes the adapter a wireless access point. I bought one about a year ago for exactly a similar reason - traveling to hotels where there is only wireless in the lobby, not the rooms. Unit cost be £15 / $22 - the link in my eBay account has now expired, but search away on eBay.
Jeff
Here is a similar device - even cheaper than I paid - on eBay UK.
Item number: 200795424968
jthspace said:
You can buy an adapter on eBay, it is about the size of a pack of cards / cigarette pack. Plug the ethernet cable from the hotel into the unit and it then makes the adapter a wireless access point. I bought one about a year ago for exactly a similar reason - traveling to hotels where there is only wireless in the lobby, not the rooms. Unit cost be £15 / $22 - the link in my eBay account has now expired, but search away on eBay.
Jeff
Here is a similar device - even cheaper than I paid - on eBay UK.
Item number: 200795424968
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Thanks for the reply, but I want to be able to use Ethernet directly to my s3 for speed and reliability when streaming and transferring large files.
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Thanks for the reply, but I want to be able to use Ethernet directly to my s3 for speed and reliability when streaming and transferring large files.
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any updates? i am interested too in wired ethernet for the s3...
Hey Guys
First post here....
I am looking for info on how to set up a Xbox 360 wired (USB) controller on my Motorola Photon 4g. While searching around, i came to the conclusion that i'll need a Kernel that supports USG OTG or USB Host Mode, and, i think in theory,
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15806590/diagram2.png (also attached)
the above diagram should work. (Courtesy [Guide] USB Gaming on Nexus S Thread )
The problems are
i) my photon is on its way home, so i cant test anything here atleast for the next 3-4 days.
ii) I do not know of a kernel compatible with photon that supports USB Host mode.
iii) in the above diagram, the supply from the USB charger/Adapter goes to both the Phone's USB, as well as the Controller's USB power lines. Would that not be a problem for the phone? i mean why should i be inputting +5V on the power lines of the phone's USB? could it potentially damage the phone? I've played with an iPod's USB, and i am scared.
Can u guys help me in the points above?
P.S the above image was taken from Nexus S USB Gaming Thread on xda forums.
Also, i wont be buying a 99USD HD Docking Station to use the Controller or other Peripherals.
Regards
USB Host is not the issue as the Photon supports USB Host out of the box so any blur based rom should work just fine. Not sure about the CM7 or CM9 family of roms. I remember having to push pretty hard just to get BT mouse support for CM7 on the Evo.
The main issue you will run into is driver support for the controller. The XBox controller gives a device not recognized. PC controllers may be hit or miss but I've tried four or five with no success. Your best options are WIImote w/ classic controller or PS3 controller running over Bluetooth. If cost is a concern then look at off brand WII and PS3 controllers or get one used.
Another thing you will need to consider is game support. You would think a game like Galaxy on Fire 2 would support controllers but it does not. Only a handful of games support controller input directly the rest require custom input mapping and third party apps like "Sixaxis Controller" or "Wiimote Controller", to name a few. You will also find that proper analog mapping is generally limited to pay apps and when using the controller it acts as you input for the phone and not just games.
I guess I could put together a "Photon as game console" guide but am a bit buried in projects right now.
@Lokifish Marz,
does that mean even in USB Host Mode, the Photon 4G would require Device Drivers to be ported for android first and then it'll be able to work with the device? Its a little strange because i have read a lot on these forums, and none pointed out that we needed any drivers, all the posts said was that USB OTG/ USB Host Mode is required. (all the Nexus S gaming threads just ask one to install a particular kernel having USB Host Support, which the Photon already has, and plus an app in market namely USB Host Controller by SzTupY)
Game support ofcourse has been taken in mind.A few Tegra 2 games support Controllers, i mean the ones that actually need a controller (as in it would be better to play them with a controller)
Apart from the drivers (which with all due respect to u, i need to be reassured about, because of what i have read in the posts, plus, on other Android phones, specially the Nexus S, people have reported other Controllers working too) what about the Schematic diagram i made above? would it work fine according to you?
Please don't mind if i said anything offensive in the post, i respect all you are doing for the projects you are working on, especially the photon projects and u must be knowing way better than me
Regards
Plug an XBox360 controller into the USB port on a lapdock or HD Dock. Result, "USB Device not recognized. Supported devices includes USB Storage, keyboards and mice." In short, no drivers. If you see somebody using a usb controller on a phone, pay close attention to the phone that's being used. Example, the GS III is a freak of nature. I'd kill for 500GB external drive support.
Different phones support different things. The original Nexus had a mod that allowed for use of usb graphics cards. The original Evo's hardware supported usb host but drivers were never written for it.
Again, your best and most trouble free option is a bluetooth controller.
If it helps give you an idea as to where I'm coming from. I've been trying to get a phone/tabletdock/lapdock/mediapc/carpc/gameconsole built since about 2003 so I feel your pain.
@Loki
Would a build of CM9 help me getting the controller working? i mean the CM9 beta builds or CM7.2 ? as i already have a Wired controller, i'd want support for that only.
plus what can be some other controllers supported?
Now i want the Photon 4G gaming guide u know....I bet everyone who has a Photon would be glad if u make one.
Regards
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plus what can be some other controllers supported?
Regards
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I believe he already answered this when he said to use bluetooth controllers. Use a p3 or a wii controller.
@rexxxgg
when i asked him what others are supported, i meant what controllers else than the PS3 bluetooth and the WIImote controller are supported. On IM it was clarified that any Generic/non Sony but -for PS3- controller should be working fine with this phone, and that was what i was precisely asking.
Right now, I'm using an HTC EVO 4G LTE, running ICS. Now the source code is out, however, no one has yet to add USB host capabilities to their kernel, so I figure I might as well do it myself. I read on kernel development, and I have a surface level understanding, but I'm just interested in adding the USB host capabilities. So how would I go about doing that? Thanks.
IIRC ICS should have OTG that works for keyboard and mouse. Of course the microUSB port on your phone needs to have the hardware to support OTG and also may or may not supply power.
Yeah, the hardware on the EVO supports it, it's just that HTC never enables it in their kernel.