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Hi guys!For the last few days(that I have my Hero rooted that is) I'm using VillainRom 10 as my everyday ROM and have tried some others.Anyway,that's not the point!
Being one of the lucky ones whose Hero can happily overclock to 768 I came to use RaduG's extremekernel and ben39's no-bfs no-whining kernel.With the second,while configuring OverclockWidget I saw that it gives a 848MHz option with auto-detect frequencies.Is it possible?I'm not asking about stable daily use,but even for some minutes for benchmarking?Has anyone achieved it?Without making their phone catch on fire that is!
And secondly,why are we all using linux 2.6.29(for total newbies I mean the kernel) while there is 2.6.32-33-34?Can't a newer kernel be compiled for use with the Hero?Newer kernels would provide native ext4 support and would probably prove to be better overall.
Oh,forgot one more!I am currently running on minimum 176MHz-maximum 749MHz(after I got a couple reboots with 768 I abandoned 19MHz for stability) with screen on and minimum 123MHz-maximum 384MHz with screen off.Should I give it a higher minimum frequency?Sometimes it lags when waking up,the screen turns on but shows nothing but black and turns off again or it turns on and everything is distorted,colors are completely distorted,background is upside down and some other unnormal things,but everything is alright when turning the screen off and back on again.Does it have to do anything with the frequencies I am using?I am running on VillainRom 10.3.
Now I have set the minimums to 160 and 190 MHz to see what happens!
Thanks in advance!
About the high MHz... I have done it with over 800 but don't max it out at 848 or your phone will freeze but anything below works And that screen **** I've also had and it has something to do with the high MHz (don't know why) but it helped me to set the MHz lower when the phone sleeps in SetCPU And at last about the kernel... It runs on the old one on Android 2.1 but in 2.2 it will be upgraded to ....33 or ....32 don't remember which...
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Thanks for your reply C0mpu13rFr34k!
I know Eclair is running on the old kernel.I just would like to know if it is possible to compile a newer kernel for it.
As for the frequencies...Are my settings alright?Some too high or too low?The way I see it there is a big gap between maximum and minimum frequencies when screen on which results on the CPU working at low frequencies most of the time,thus sacrificing performance.But it helps with battery life and presumably this and the screen-off underclocking reduce the overall damage caused to the CPU by the overclocking,which is said to reduce the CPU's total lifetime by 50% or more,depending on how much you overclock it.Working at 749 I sometimes get a nice 43 degrees Celsius while charging,but that's only when charging.Average temperatures are 30 for standby and 37 with screen on(average,can be lower or higher).
And one more question.At 800+ how hot does it get?Will it be stable for some minutes to do some basic benchmarking or nah..?
Thanks!
tolis626 said:
Thanks for your reply C0mpu13rFr34k!
I know Eclair is running on the old kernel.I just would like to know if it is possible to compile a newer kernel for it.
As for the frequencies...Are my settings alright?Some too high or too low?The way I see it there is a big gap between maximum and minimum frequencies when screen on which results on the CPU working at low frequencies most of the time,thus sacrificing performance.But it helps with battery life and presumably this and the screen-off underclocking reduce the overall damage caused to the CPU by the overclocking,which is said to reduce the CPU's total lifetime by 50% or more,depending on how much you overclock it.Working at 749 I sometimes get a nice 43 degrees Celsius while charging,but that's only when charging.Average temperatures are 30 for standby and 37 with screen on(average,can be lower or higher).
And one more question.At 800+ how hot does it get?Will it be stable for some minutes to do some basic benchmarking or nah..?
Thanks!
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If your phone is stable your settings are just fine even though your phone might have problems waking up if the low freq is under 246MHz (something like that) Also if you want better performance you might want to test some other freqs and then benchmark... Sometimes it makes a BIG difference if your phone is running at 691MHz or 710MHz For me my phone works like **** if it runs at 749MHz but it works like a dream at 729MHz (I think the difference was 0.5-0.8MFLOPS) Im also pretty sure your temp is fine (OC shouldn't make your phone that much hotter since the voltages in all ROMs are adjustet). If you should compile a newer kernel you would first of all need a .32 (.33?) from HTC because of hardware capabilities and im sure there's is A LOT more things devs need to compile such a kernel but i don't know to much about kernels I don't really know that much about 800+ because I only did it once and benchmarked it (MFLOPS was **** and i couldn't get them high at all) actually it slowed down my phone but you should test it. Maybe your very lucky and your phone can take it
Well,I have set it to 653min-749max with screen on and 160min-352max with screen off.Testing only!But it runs like a dream if we don't take into account a small lagging when I turn the screen on and it has to change frequencies!But it's great so far.Will see how battery life goes!By the way,tried 800,806 and 848MHz,but none worked.It didn't crash or something,it just wouldn't change to it and stayed at lower frequencies(low as 246).
Thanks for your time anyway!
And a small question...How bad does overclocking affect the CPU's life?I asked around and was told that the maximum overclock for desktop PCs is 20-25%,depending on the CPU,while needing special cooling systems,and that it can reduce the CPU's life up to 50%.Given that we overclock over 40%,how bad do we damage our CPUs?
tolis626 said:
Well,I have set it to 653min-749max with screen on and 160min-352max with screen off.Testing only!But it runs like a dream if we don't take into account a small lagging when I turn the screen on and it has to change frequencies!But it's great so far.Will see how battery life goes!By the way,tried 800,806 and 848MHz,but none worked.It didn't crash or something,it just wouldn't change to it and stayed at lower frequencies(low as 246).
Thanks for your time anyway!
And a small question...How bad does overclocking affect the CPU's life?I asked around and was told that the maximum overclock for desktop PCs is 20-25%,depending on the CPU,while needing special cooling systems,and that it can reduce the CPU's life up to 50%.Given that we overclock over 40%,how bad do we damage our CPUs?
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I haven't heard to much about that actually but from what I've heard it shouldn't damage the CPU at all because of the voltage adjustments but i find that very hard to believe... Talking from personal experience my phone runs as smooth now as it did when i bought it so my CPU has probably taken minamal- or no damage at all and I got it when it had just come out here in Denmark (Europe) which is about 8+ months i think? So I wouldn't care to much about the lifetime since It's probably like 1-2 years and by that time I don't think people are using the Hero anymore Keep up the good work with optimizing and your welcome
i have recently flashed the Floyo 1.01 rom for hero, it come with flykernel 11 smartass, with default speed at 528/176
what speed should i overclock it ? whats the best speed for this rom ? does it drain much more battery with higher speed ?
I haven't had much battery drain using overclocked kernels, just remember to set up sleep profiles to underclock when screen off to maximise battery.
Start off with the FlyKernel-11 (Generic), crank upto 710, see if its is stable or it crashes,... If you crash, worry not, pull your battery, lower your overclock by one notch, try again. If it runs fine, try even putting the clock speed up.
Have I been clear?... Shout me if you need more help.
Am on Froshedyo Vanilla + Green minimal theme and was wondering does the min CPU of 245mhz and 19mhz eat up the amount of battery? Do they run the same voltage? Any of you guys see a difference as far battery life running 19? I know it makes the phone take a little longer to wake up when a call is coming in. Thoughts?
Currently I have it 528/245 Smartass with a charging profile
I always had problems with lag when I clocked down to 19. I never really felt that it provided any extra battery life, but others feel that it does.
+1 on the lag. We run 245 and its smooth.
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There have been occasions, possibly the particular combination of ROM, the apps installed, and what app or method I'm using to overclock which have resulted in 19 working fine sometimes, but most of the time at least 160 or 210 (?) would be a necessary happy medium so that waking the screen or answering calls wouldn't be downright excruciating, so my short answer is yes, at least 210 or 245. I forget and am too lazy to look if 210 was an option, and I'm tired. LOL.
FroShedYo runs Conap's CFS kernel, and, IIRC, it was made quite clear in that thread that the kernel runs best at a minimum of 245 MHz.
I'll say this - last month I spent a lot of time going back and forth between xtrSENSE and xtrROM, both running at 604.8 max and as low as 19.2 min (I tried all steps from 245 down to 19.2), and CELB, running at 710 max and 245 min, and I get much better battery life with CELB. In fact, with xtrROM I had to set some of my update times for apps that I use to longer intervals just to get through the end of the day with 20% battery life left. With CELB I never finish the day with less than 40%, and it's often over 50%.
It may be different for you, but that's what happens on my phone.
I use 19.2.
122 and 19.2 both use the same voltage though I believe. I only use 19.2 because it keeps the average down.
I listen to pandora with 19.2 min 480max smartass with no lag.
I'm looking for a good baseline to see what works best on this phone.
list everything, screenshots prefer and please specify your rom, kernel, and theme.
Mine are as follows...
all info in my sig. I use 500-1400 conservative with a 500-500 power save profile set for when the screen is off.
My battery lasts between 28-42 hrs pending my usage level from high - low. YMMV.
Miui
200 to 1200
Conservative
Noop
Using no-frills
Same settings when using perception. Awesome battery life, almost two days.
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CM7
200-1400 On demand
nothing else changed in setcpu
using red drop them for theme changer
CM7 launcher (ADW)
Widgetlocker for lockscreen theme
So, I'm heavily themed, but not much in widgets.
Seems good on battery, can last ~14 hours with moderate to high use.
Stable as well, no major crashes other than the usual browser and market.
I use Voltage Control myself and I've UV'd all across the board by -50. I've also dropped max speed to 1000Mhz. The rest should be pretty self explanatory...
Oh and I can't really list battery life because my usage really varies day to day, by quite a bit. I will say that I definitely get through an entire day with very high usage with no problems at all. Much... MUCH better than when I was running stock.
Default voltages and frequencies, ondemand, ignore nice load
llescaflownell said:
CM7
200-1400 On demand
nothing else changed in setcpu
using red drop them for theme changer
CM7 launcher (ADW)
Widgetlocker for lockscreen theme
So, I'm heavily themed, but not much in widgets.
Seems good on battery, can last ~14 hours with moderate to high use.
Stable as well, no major crashes other than the usual browser and market.
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Do you notice any difference at all in performance? How much display time do you get?
Cansomeone tell me the stock voltages I think mine are messed up
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roadrash7 said:
Cansomeone tell me the stock voltages I think mine are messed up
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Add 50 to each of the ones in my picture posted in the reply up above.
Simba501 said:
Default voltages and frequencies, ondemand, ignore nice load
Do you notice any difference at all in performance? How much display time do you get?
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Day to day performance, there really is no difference than stock, but to compare quadrant, I got ~3300 stock, but at this OC I get ~4400. It's gonna be smooth as butter either way, I just like numbers
Display time, I'm not too sure, but my settings are at its 1/3 highest (so not too bright, but not too dim either for me). If I were to approximate, I would say a good 2 hours of the display being on, give or take an hour or too (not the best estimate, but Ill try and keep track next time and report back).
Rooted stock
No themes
I get a good 14 to 18 hrs (minimal usage during the day and heavier usage evenings/nights - lots of wifi or data intensive apps)
Kadin said:
Add 50 to each of the ones in my picture posted in the reply up above.
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thanks but it looks like that is not stock settings, turns out if you click revert in setcpu it tells you how to get back to stock. they are...
1200-1275
1000-1175
800- 1075
500 - 975
200 - 950
my new settings are...
1200-1175
1000-1100
800 - 1000
500 - 925
200 - 850
all is well so far. stress test with no probs.
Here's my settings
Main Profile: 200Mhz Min 1Ghz Max running conservative governor. During the day. Conservative is performing better than ondemand for me.
I've also been toying with the up and down thresholds on the conservative governor to find a difference. Haven't really experienced any lag unless I set the up threshold to 90 or over.
Screen Off: 200 Min 500 Max also conservative
Charging: 200 Min 1400 Max ondemand
Battery <25% 200Min 800Max conservative
I've been finding the phone is just as good running at 800mhz max on the main profile. It's amazing how much faster this thing is then my captivate.
As far as voltages
1600: 1450
1400: 1325
1200: 1225
1000: 1100
800: 1000
500: 900
200: 825
Been getting amazing battery life. Been on battery for 10 hours now. Still 65% battery. Not bad.
My phone absolutely blows for overclocking. anytime i try the settings posted here it locks up
Also using No Frills here. Settings are:
Max: 1200
Min: 200
Conservative and Noop
I unplug it at 7am and by the time I get off of work at 5:30ish I still have 60%+ of my battery left. Running MIUI with quite a few widgets and I leave wifi on all the time.
roadrash7 said:
thanks but it looks like that is not stock settings, turns out if you click revert in setcpu it tells you how to get back to stock. they are...
1200-1275
1000-1175
800- 1075
500 - 975
200 - 950
my new settings are...
1200-1175
1000-1100
800 - 1000
500 - 925
200 - 850
all is well so far. stress test with no probs.
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Thanks for this!
DJSLINKARD said:
My phone absolutely blows for overclocking. anytime i try the settings posted here it locks up
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Might have to Overvolt. I had to overvolt 1400Mhz by 25mv in order to get it stable.
Also I've noticed lately when it's not happy with the setCPU settings I'm using the phone seems to emit a high pitched frequency when you put your ear to the back cover. When I get stable it appears to stop.
roadrash7 said:
thanks but it looks like that is not stock settings, turns out if you click revert in setcpu it tells you how to get back to stock. they are...
1200-1275
1000-1175
800- 1075
500 - 975
200 - 950
my new settings are...
1200-1175
1000-1100
800 - 1000
500 - 925
200 - 850
all is well so far. stress test with no probs.
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Not sure what to tell ya. I just installed SetCPU and this is the default settings showing - the same as Voltage Control and what I was referring to. I deleted the boot and profile settings first from Voltage Control and then rebooted, then installed SetCPU.
The only thing I can think of is that since I'm running UnNamed with Entropy's daily driver, maybe the voltage was tweaked from him? I'm only assuming because reading through his thread doesn't seem to indicate that he upped the default voltage on all levels. Unless I missed it somewhere.
This is in Entropy's Daily Driver thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18433190&postcount=213
Kadin said:
Not sure what to tell ya. I just installed SetCPU and this is the default settings showing - the same as Voltage Control and what I was referring to. I deleted the boot and profile settings first from Voltage Control and then rebooted, then installed SetCPU.
The only thing I can think of is that since I'm running UnNamed with Entropy's daily driver, maybe the voltage was tweaked from him? I'm only assuming because reading through his thread doesn't seem to indicate that he upped the default voltage on all levels. Unless I missed it somewhere.
This is in Entropy's Daily Driver thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18433190&postcount=213
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Thanks for the clarification
I'm still trying to find settings that give the most performance and give the best battery life
bump...
No one cares to share?
Stock voltages and frequencies - on demand
Charging - stock frequencies - on demand
screen off - 200-500 conservative
I flashed the cm7 1.4 240-325-300 Kernel.
In my settings what should I keep my min and max at for all time usage?
I max them and my quad score is like 5501
don't know if your supposed to keep those certain.
Also does decrease or increase battery life.
I left mine at the default values. Was wondering this myself though. How do you test quad scores?
Download quadrant standard from market
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You want the lowest value to be at the lowest(216 i think) because this allows the processor to idle at that low speed, if you keep the minimum speed at 1ghz your processor will ALWAYS be running 1ghz at the lowest, and that will be an obvious way to kill your battery in no time. So set that to the lowest, and for the maximum i personally run mine at 750 for CM9, think i had it at 800 for CM7 but cannot remember for sure. This is limiting how fast the processor can run so the lower the better as far as battery goes. It comes down to you personally, if you game and do processor heavy tasks often then having the processor underclocked like i run mine will affect your gaming/app/overall experience. Its always like 2 clicks away to bump it up to a higher speed and i have a link on my home screen so if i do decide to do anything processor heavy i can bump it up quickly. But in general it takes more power for your processor to run higher so if your really concerned about battery life try bringing it down. I can still score a solid 1,500+(with a bunch of crap installed on my Photon mind you) on CM9 with my max at 750 and min and 216. Benchmarks are honestly just a number, it comes down to how if performs for you and what you are doing with your phone.
Awesome, I'm lowering it now and battery is dropping slow so its good, thanks for the detailed reply.
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