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Hey guys and gals, I am coming over to T-Mobile from Verizon on Thursday, and most likely getting the HTC One in the process.
Maybe this is a Verizon thing, but sometimes when you accept an OTA update, it will break root, relock the bootloader and you are stuck without root if you take the update.
Do I need to worry about that on T-Mobile and the One? In other words, when I'm in the store purchasing the phone, should I try and stop them from running any updates? Or can I root regardless?
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, I am coming over to T-Mobile from Verizon on Thursday, and most likely getting the HTC One in the process.
Maybe this is a Verizon thing, but sometimes when you accept an OTA update, it will break root, relock the bootloader and you are stuck without root if you take the update.
Do I need to worry about that on T-Mobile and the One? In other words, when I'm in the store purchasing the phone, should I try and stop them from running any updates? Or can I root regardless?
Thanks!
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If you root on tmobile then you won't get any OTA updates, so that's a moot worry. Luckily the updates pop on here pretty quickly so you can simply sideload them.
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If you root on tmobile then you won't get any OTA updates, so that's a moot worry. Luckily the updates pop on here pretty quickly so you can simply sideload them.
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I understand that and I totally intend to root my phone. But what if the sales rep runs the update on the phone while activating it? Will I still be able to root and s-off?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
I understand that and I totally intend to root my phone. But what if the sales rep runs the update on the phone while activating it? Will I still be able to root and s-off?
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Yes you will. No worries
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I'm happy without root. Only thing that I hate is that I can't get rid of kids mode, that water game, carrier iq, and lookout. However, because I have the premium handset protection I got the paid version for free recently which is nice.
As well as the T-Mobile apps visual voicemail (i want to use Google voice and can't) , T-Mobile tv, and the name id app that has since expired from the trial period which is stupid if you ask me. Spend $600 bucks and can't get something like that free.
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You can disable Lookout and the T-Mobile apps in Settings > apps > all
Scroll down and find them one-by-one, click on the app, click "disable"
wala!
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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Dubbsy said:
Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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+1. And yes locked bootloader sucks the big ones
Posted from my Outlaw(unlocked) XT926, Verizon can suck it.
warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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In most places Verizon has the best service. While traveling your less likely to experience drops with Verizon. AT&T also locked their bootloader. I'm not a Verizon fan but if I'm going to have a cell phone I'd like to have service wherever I go.
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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agreed
I switched to verizon from att and got this phone even with the bootloader locked its fine just a minor annoience hopefully they will unlock it at some point.
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sokrboot said:
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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Can someone explain to me the benefits of an unlocked bootloader? Custom ROMs have been a pleasure to run, but I guess a free bootloader adds to it?
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I love this phone long time.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Agreed. I just switched to Verizon from Sprint and fortunately I'm on MDK but I'm not down with these policies going forward. For the locations I spend 99.9 percent of my time in, T mobile has nearly equal coverage and fewer dropped calls in my area. I'll be migrating to T mobile at the end of my contract on in the event I hose my phone and can't stomach being on ME7.
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wish I never signed up with Verizon. After my two years I'm going back to tmobile they got unlimited data plan and all cheap.
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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decaturbob said:
Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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I don't know about "the norm." But I do agree that coverage and signal are most important and fortunately VZW isn't the only game in town with decent coverage. However, I've been modding phones since 11/2007 and it's something I enjoy. I'll be dammed if I stick with a carrier who aims to prevent me from enjoying one of my hobbies.
mlin said:
True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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With root you can debloat the stock install and move data apps to system to save previous data space.
But im unsure as to how much you can do to your safe partition with SS because it's intended to be your safety net when you screw up.
warchyld77 said:
I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wasnt talking bad. If you think I was you need your head examined. I personally don't want to use it but I feel it's an extremely valuable tool for many.
I only won't use it because I don't want or need a safety net. Id rather use that space myself. And since I am on mdk I have that option.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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I hate the lock too
I love my S4 personally, but that's because I got it early when the Loki exploit worked. I don't like Verizon, though, but I'm on a plan with my parents still so I can't complain since I'm not paying. I plan on switching to T-Mobile and staying off-contract after I leave my parents' plan.
It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
I AGREE...
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It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
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I agree 100%!
Winning. I was able to get an Advanced Tech support rep to admit they were wrong. She walked me through rooting my phone and voiding my warranty to freeze Carrier IQ. She then added insurance to my account free of charge and gave me a credit for $150 on my account to cover the insurance deductible if needed in the future. Attached is proof.
This has turned into a full on assault toward AT&T. Here is the link to file a complaint to the FCC. I have submitted my contract, the details page about the lg g2 from AT&T's website neither which states that carrier IQ or any other software is installed to monitor location or network data. Also attach was a chat log with an AT&T rep who admitted openly that it was not in my contract or listed anywhere that carrier IQ would be installed on our devices.I have also Filed a small claims complaint in with my local court which has a 500$ maximum claim amount. I am seeking the max with the reasoning that the only way to not be affected is to buy another phone.I expect AT&T to be a no show. Please unite and file an fcc complaint for concealing software capable of providing your location without consent.
https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form2000.action?form_type=2000B
Here is the facebook link. I need to do more work to it when I get time. https://www.facebook.com/supportpacs
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Posted this to the official lg mobile USA page.
LG. I must say since I picked up the g2 life has been great. I have but one issue with my phone and I am on my knees begging you for help. My troubles all began when I powered on my at&t branded device. I struggled with a very annoying wake lock that would randomly deplete my battery. I have traced the culprit which I have found to be carrier iq also known as ciq. I understand this spyware was installed at the request of my carrier so they can track usage data and trouble shoot network issues. I just feel lg should allow customers to have the ability to opt out or disable this software. Did you know that if I have network location set to off carrier iq will turn on my GPS to obtain my location. Now imagine this, you work in a secure facility with metal doors and no windows in the basement of a government entity. Your GPS turns on constantly without your control eating away at your battery trying to obtain a location. So I ask you only for this lg. Please work with the American carriers to give your customers the freedom to choose. Isn't it bad enough we have Obama and the NSA spying on us. Sincerly Christopher
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If you are talking about US models, the T-mobile variant allows you to disable carrierIQ in the settings.
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I doubt it will do any good but I wanted to share my plea to lg in hopes for an option to disable carrier iq on the US models like AT&T. I know carrier iq Is installed at the request of the carriers but I believe LG will support us if we unite. The voice of one will not be heard. I will be reaching out to lg customers on other devices and carriers far beyond xda. I will keep this post updated with links for Facebook,YouTube and other social networking sites. Please support me as I fight for your freedom to choose weather or not to enable carrier IQ.
I am in the process of creating a Facebook page with the intention of raising awareness for all of the users who have no idea what carrier iq Is.
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You got my support. Where do I sign?
HeXaLox said:
You got my support. Where do I sign?
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You can simply share the Facebook page. When I finish it I will post the link. I am factory restoring my pc so probably in the morning. I will also create a web page.
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Got my support too
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Save that on Facebook's, I can tell you are a 911 dispatcher.
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xcaliburpcs said:
Save that on Facebook's, I can tell you are a 911 dispatcher.
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You are correct.
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You didn't really say Obama and the NSA spying on us did you? No ciq on my G2!
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If you are talking about US models, the T-mobile variant allows you to disable carrierIQ in the settings.
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I have the T-Mobile version, please elaborate. I can't find how to disable that. Thanks
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This isn't done at the LG level. This is done at the Carrier level.
The Verizon version doesn't even have CIQ.
This would be a plea to the carriers like ATT... and good luck w/ that.
digitard said:
This isn't done at the LG level. This is done at the Carrier level.
The Verizon version doesn't even have CIQ.
This would be a plea to the carriers like ATT... and good luck w/ that.
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LG installed ciq at the request of att. Lg is the one who can pressure att to give us the option to disable it like t mobile.
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Exactly. They installed it at ATT's behest. They don't install it by default. They installed it because it's part of ATT's custom package they load on top of the LG base.
Like all carriers they install their own custom bloat on top of the base, and that was part of ATT's. They're not going to pressure ATT to remove it because it's ATT's call. T-Mo chose to install it, but give a disable option. It's all controlled by the carriers installation package.
If anything it's ATT who needs to be pressured so the 4.4 build doesn't have it bloated in.
Intub8 said:
LG installed ciq at the request of att. Lg is the one who can pressure att to give us the option to disable it like t mobile.
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I have the T-Mobile version but can't find in settings where to disable it. WTH?
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bigox said:
I have the T-Mobile version but can't find in settings where to disable it. WTH?
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Sorry for the late reply
Per T-mobile:
Settings > Backup & Reset > Collect diagnostics.... then uncheck "allow diagnostics"
BetterBatteryStats recorded carrierIQ as a wakelock, but after doing the above method, that wakelock was no more.
One gripe I have w this phone is the CIQ. They should at least let us have the option to disable it.
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bigox said:
I have the T-Mobile version, please elaborate. I can't find how to disable that. Thanks
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System settings > backup and reset > collect diagnostics and turn it off.
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System settings > backup and reset > collect diagnostics and turn it off.
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We should rather ask for unlocked bootloader. CIQ can be easily disabled/removed
Does sprint use CIQ?
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Does sprint use CIQ?
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I don't believe they do , they discontinued using it after all the lawsuits started.
I'm sure there is some logical answer to this that someone can explain, but it is something that has been on my mind lately. Why do we even have fragmentation of Android on our devices? 4.4 just came out, and despite the rumors the chances we will ever go beyond 4.1.1 on our DNA without the use of ROMs is slim. This is because we have to wait for HTC to make the update, then Verizon to push it out.
But why don't we cut out Verizon? How about HTC, Samsung, Sony, etc push the updates directly to the device without Verizon? Maybe HTC has something like a HTC Device Manager that lets you select your device and OS, and shows you your version along with the latest with the option to update. It shouldn't be too hard... Apple does it. Even though I dislike iPhones, their updating structure is superior. Updating should be in the hands of the manufacture, not the carrier. That way only HTC is to blame.
It shouldn't be too hard for manufacturers to make updates for their devices since they should have people being paid to do such. Here on XDA we have a great community of people that seem to do more in their free time and it quicker than anyone employed by the manufacturer.
Last thing, Google can help with fragmentation by putting more features into the Playstore. A great example is the the Google Keyboard. Beforehand the only way to get it was on something like a Nexus, but now anyone can get it. Why can't Google put the new KitKat launcher and Dialer into the Playstore?
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Jaggar345 said:
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Exactly this. The Apple thing is moot. Apple is the only company who releases iOS, so Apple has the choice if they want their phone on that carrier. Android manufacturers are a dime a dozen, so they have to sign contracts and follow what the carrier wants to keep their devices on that carrier.
What is more devastating? No Samsung phones on a certain carrier, or no iOS? The carrier has a handful of android devices to choose from if one manufacturer drops. If Apple drops, there will be no more iOS on that carrier.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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danjull said:
If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Jaggar345 said:
Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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If i remember correctly it's Google that doesn't give them nexus
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Jaggar345 said:
Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Verizon did pick up a nexus phone. The Galaxy Nexus, and it was just as bad about updates.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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The Nexus 5 has CDMA support, but only on Sprint. It doesn't have support for Verizon's bands.
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Hmmm... Didn't know that. Even more reason for me to believe there's something more to it. I think it may have something to do with Verizon's effort to keep the bootloaders on all its devices locked down like a chastity belt, whereas Google wants the devices to be for unlockable.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
t1gartist said:
well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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Why would it be illegal your not taking any paid apps or anything or breaking the law by doing what you want with your device.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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You are thinking of the law about unlocking the Sim lock. Not unlocking the bootloader. Our DNA's are sim unlocked out of the box.
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I have been hearing around the xda community that this wonderful device will be joining the blacklisted devices over at at&t and Verizon. I am referring to the bootloader. Any good news out there?
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Oops. Does this belong in questions and answers ?
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Yes it does go in Q&A.
There are working models at best buy. I'm not 100% sure how you would check...probably just boot into the bootloader and see what it says.
The T-Mobile version boot loader is usually unlocked.
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Think we will have to wait and see really.
Not sure when pre orders will ship, but we should be able to find out April 11th
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I'm not buying until I know for sure. Even then I might go with HTC since KNOX Security sucks.
I'm gonna tell T-Mobile as soon as I get mine that everything's working fine, don't want a replacement, but note that knox was already tripped when I got it. Ha ha
Not sure how they can dispute that later for warranty issues.
Even though I'm probably not going to root it or anything for a while.
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T-Mobile WILL have LOCKED BL
Guys here
This time around it looks like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile will have S5 with locked bootloader. (Only Sprint's S5 will have unlocked BL).
1. AT&T started with S4 and continued the tradition there after (G2, N3 etc.) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
2. T-Mobile started with LG G Flex and looks like it will continue the tradition with S5. (Source) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
3. Verizon started who knows when? (At least verizon is nice enough to have Dev edition, albeit expensive as hell).
What does all this mean?
Well you can't have "traditional" custom recovery so that means NO ASOP, NO custom Kernels etc.
You can have a recovery called "Safestrap" which will allow you to flash only TW based ROMs and simple MODs such as bootanimations but nothing more.
That is possible.
Not a confirmation that the T-Mobile variant with be locked though.
With the most recent update to the s4 they could have made it locked but they didn't as far as I can tell. Just has knox on it.
Still will need to wait and see I guess.
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coming from a you s4
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Yup. I like the idea of a faster processor. Even if marginal. The finger print reader and water resistance.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Or anyone who has taken the S4 MF3 or later updates...safestrap only. I dont know why ppl do OTA's these days its never anything to help us only to hinder us.
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I got a tmobile s4 and note 3 both with updated 4.4.2 bootloaders and they are not locked. what att do or verizon has nothing to go with tmobile. as far as the lg flex that was lg decision not tmobile as they are all locked. knox has nothing to do with a locked bootloader. I do not see tmobile locking the bootloader
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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chrisram88 said:
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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T-Mobile made Alcatel lock the OneTouch Fierce and they'll do it some more apparently.
T-Mobile Secure Lock.
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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TheArtiszan said:
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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Alcatel OneTouch line are because of Secure Lock, and are still modern phones they are selling. You have the burden of proof on your hands. I for one wouldn't buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5 before knowing 100% it's unlocked or unlockable. Besides... the Note 3 is still unlocked and quite a comparable device!
We'll see in a few weeks.