I'm sure there is some logical answer to this that someone can explain, but it is something that has been on my mind lately. Why do we even have fragmentation of Android on our devices? 4.4 just came out, and despite the rumors the chances we will ever go beyond 4.1.1 on our DNA without the use of ROMs is slim. This is because we have to wait for HTC to make the update, then Verizon to push it out.
But why don't we cut out Verizon? How about HTC, Samsung, Sony, etc push the updates directly to the device without Verizon? Maybe HTC has something like a HTC Device Manager that lets you select your device and OS, and shows you your version along with the latest with the option to update. It shouldn't be too hard... Apple does it. Even though I dislike iPhones, their updating structure is superior. Updating should be in the hands of the manufacture, not the carrier. That way only HTC is to blame.
It shouldn't be too hard for manufacturers to make updates for their devices since they should have people being paid to do such. Here on XDA we have a great community of people that seem to do more in their free time and it quicker than anyone employed by the manufacturer.
Last thing, Google can help with fragmentation by putting more features into the Playstore. A great example is the the Google Keyboard. Beforehand the only way to get it was on something like a Nexus, but now anyone can get it. Why can't Google put the new KitKat launcher and Dialer into the Playstore?
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Exactly this. The Apple thing is moot. Apple is the only company who releases iOS, so Apple has the choice if they want their phone on that carrier. Android manufacturers are a dime a dozen, so they have to sign contracts and follow what the carrier wants to keep their devices on that carrier.
What is more devastating? No Samsung phones on a certain carrier, or no iOS? The carrier has a handful of android devices to choose from if one manufacturer drops. If Apple drops, there will be no more iOS on that carrier.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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If i remember correctly it's Google that doesn't give them nexus
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Verizon did pick up a nexus phone. The Galaxy Nexus, and it was just as bad about updates.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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The Nexus 5 has CDMA support, but only on Sprint. It doesn't have support for Verizon's bands.
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Hmmm... Didn't know that. Even more reason for me to believe there's something more to it. I think it may have something to do with Verizon's effort to keep the bootloaders on all its devices locked down like a chastity belt, whereas Google wants the devices to be for unlockable.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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Why would it be illegal your not taking any paid apps or anything or breaking the law by doing what you want with your device.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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You are thinking of the law about unlocking the Sim lock. Not unlocking the bootloader. Our DNA's are sim unlocked out of the box.
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How will the ownership of Motorola by Google affect us users?
I love my Photon, Google may have direct access to make things different for future Motorola Android Devices and Updates...
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My Motorola Mobile Android experience from Droid ×¹ to the HTC Evo to Photon:
Comming from a Droid X on Verizon, I have experienced most of the features of my MoPho with the latest gingy update. This hasn't been challenging and I love the features of the "axed" motoblur, (Edit: Motorola Applications Platform, not Motorola Desktop Interface), but I love my MoPho.
I previously had an Evo 4G, and I liked the UI, but hated the phone, with its unbearable internal storage, I got rid of it, and got my MoPho.
(I had my Droid X, Evo 4G, then Photon)
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Well, back to my topic, , what do you all think this will do to us?
Is this a positive, negative, post your comments below...
Quick Question: Has anyone came from the Droid X, or Droid X², and what do you think?
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Hopefully some < $100 motorola cable boxes running Google TV
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Google doesn't care if you root. If they do at all, it's because the carriers hate rooting.
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Hopefully some < $100 motorola cable boxes running Google TV
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I hope so!!!!!!! That would be sweet, especially if you can buy them without getting into a cable contract!
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Google doesn't care if you root. If they do at all, it's because the carriers hate rooting.
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I used to think that Google didn't care if we rooted myself, but with the latest Android Gingerbread Updates, Google has blocked some methods, together with the manufacturer's and carrier's OTA Updates, we may not know...
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If you look at the Nexus phones, they have easily unlockable bootloaders. True, they are developer phones. Google will be running the company separately, not taking over whole operations if i read correctly. I think a push toward unlocked bootloaders and sooner updates. I think a slow death to Blur, probably around when Ice Cream Sandwich comes. Flagship phone perhaps?
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From the standpoint of rooting, google doesn't care about that, if they did would they let apps for root users in market ? I don'T think so. So you better forget that idea.
Now being a motorola/google phone owner, we should be much more optimistic than others about software. I personally think that google will take more care of us. Looking forward to see a Chrome OS instead of Weptop on our devices. officialy or unofficialy, i believe it will happen.
We get 2.4 faster than anyone else.
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I used to think that Google didn't care if we rooted myself, but with the latest Android Gingerbread Updates, Google has blocked some methods, together with the manufacturer's and carrier's OTA Updates, we may not know...
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That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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You are my +1
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That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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Root is at a software level while the bootloader is closer to a hardware level and requires access to the phone. Just clarifying that for people..
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If you look at the Nexus phones, they have easily unlockable bootloaders. True, they are developer phones. Google will be running the company separately, not taking over whole operations if i read correctly. I think a push toward unlocked bootloaders and sooner updates. I think a slow death to Blur, probably around when Ice Cream Sandwich comes. Flagship phone perhaps?
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Yes, you are correct about the takeover, it will be ran as a separate company, as I have read, I will edit my post.
I wouln't say a slow death of blur, for our Photons, but that is quite possible for newer Motorola Android devices, but at the same time, Motorola may work with Google's android developers to make a better blur-esque UI. Who knows?
Remember, if all goes as reportedly planned, then Google has the Blur patent...
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I dunno about you guys, but the new blur is not so bad for me. I came from a Cliq and this ghost blur or interface is a major improvement.
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I hope so!!!!!!! That would be sweet, especially if you can buy them without getting into a cable contract!
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That would all depend on the cable provider as well, however most (if not all) cable companies offer just a cable card that I'm sure future Motorola cable boxes will accept, if you purchase the box from an official retailer. Though you'll of course at least have to have the tv service through satellite/cable provider.
The acquisition, though, makes me wonder if I should get the Photon, or keep using my X10 Mini Pro for a while to see what comes next
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I dunno about you guys, but the new blur is not so bad for me. I came from a Cliq and this ghost blur or interface is a major improvement.
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I agree. I like this blur, a lot. It's not bad at all. Good job Motorola!
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The acquisition, though, makes me wonder if I should get the Photon, or keep using my X10 Mini Pro for a while to see what comes next
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The ultimate decision is entirely up to you, but I personally think the photon is a great choice for all.
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That would all depend on the cable provider as well, however most (if not all) cable companies offer just a cable card that I'm sure future Motorola cable boxes will accept, if you purchase the box from an official retailer. Though you'll of course at least have to have the tv service through satellite/cable provider.
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Well Agreed.
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Be skeptical of course, since this is coming from a support email instead of an official statement by HTC.
I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I wouldn't blame it entirely on HTC. No way was Vzw about to let an HTC device get an ICS update before the RAZR.
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Yeah, my blame should have been toward Verizon mostly. I really do hate Verizon between forcing us off our grandfathered plans, loading their phones with bloat and delaying updates.
I'm most likely waiting till the new iPhone and new Nexus devices come out (later this year most likely) and then buy one outright and hand my phone to my mother so we can stay on unlimited data. Nexus because of AOSP, iPhone because Apple usually gets what Apple wants and doesn't let the carriers load their phones with rubbish (Same with the nexus).
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Yeah, my blame should have been toward Verizon mostly. I really do hate Verizon between forcing us off our grandfathered plans, loading their phones with bloat and delaying updates.
I'm most likely waiting till the new iPhone and new Nexus devices come out (later this year most likely) and then buy one outright and hand my phone to my mother so we can stay on unlimited data. Nexus because of AOSP, iPhone because Apple usually gets what Apple wants and doesn't let the carriers load their phones with rubbish (Same with the nexus).
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Why does everyone think the new nexus will be on Verizon?
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Chyrux said:
I wouldn't blame it entirely on HTC. No way was Vzw about to let an HTC device get an ICS update before the RAZR.
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Exactly. Also they wouldnt let it get ICS before the HTC Incredible 4G LTE came out. That is their new top of the line HTC phone they sell. If the Rezound had ICS it would be more desirable than it because of the HD screen.
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Why does everyone think the new nexus will be on Verizon?
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Then I would get an iPhone. I'm waiting for both to drop before I make my decision. I'm either going to end up with a no fooling around Nexus that does not come preloaded with VZNavigator, Golf, NFS, Blockbuster and whatever other guff Verizon chooses to put on the device or an iPhone.
Highly doubt Verizon will want the next Nexus considering it stands against everything they stand for and they dragged their feet with the GNex.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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I'm switching carriers either way at least when my contract ends. Im not going to buy a phone full price and sure as hell not going to fall into their share everything plan.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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Where ya going? Sprint? Lol. T-Mobile?
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Where ya going? Sprint? Lol. T-Mobile?
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All carriers have their drawbacks. The only one I would consider it would be at&t because you can use most any gsm phone.
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All carriers have their drawbacks. The only one I would consider it would be at&t because you can use most any gsm phone.
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Try telling that to AT&T's support people. I have a co-worker who has been dealing with them for a week because they dropped her data plan when she got a Galaxy Nexus (unlocked) to replace her Atrix which got stolen. Their system doesn't recognize the phone, so it apparently refuses to let them set it up with a smartphone data plan. I told her she should try going into the store and see if they can fix it (and refuse to leave until it is).
I ran into something similar when I was with them a couple of years ago. I bought an unlocked Nokia E63 (technically a smartphone), but their system insisted on letting me keep my $30 unlimited data + text plan at the time, instead of making me upgrade to more expensive separate data and text messaging plans. I'm guessing in order to force people who get smartphones onto smartphone plans, they have to program their billing system to know which phones are considered smartphones. If you bring your own device, it throws a monkey wrench into that process. The US carriers take a good idea (portability, which is inherent in the way GSM works) and completely screw it up.
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Then I would get an iPhone. I'm waiting for both to drop before I make my decision. I'm either going to end up with a no fooling around Nexus that does not come preloaded with VZNavigator, Golf, NFS, Blockbuster and whatever other guff Verizon chooses to put on the device or an iPhone.
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I'm in the same boat. I might just sell my Rezound on Craigslist and buy a nexus.
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I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I just wanna defend HTC here. If I remember correctly, June-July was the estimate HTC officially gave us. Somebody done lied to you, son.
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Going to TMobile when my contract expires in 2014, riding unlimited until then.
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Yeah I guess if they wait until the end of july to give us ICS then JellyBean will be just our of reach... what a shock.
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Going to TMobile when my contract expires in 2014, riding unlimited until then.
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That's what I am thinking as well. I really like the sound of T-Mobile's $30 a month plan.
I already switched to AT&T. Sold the rezound and picked up a one x. cheaper bill, and same service? Yup!
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I just wanna defend HTC here. If I remember correctly, June-July was the estimate HTC officially gave us. Somebody done lied to you, son.
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When the Rezound came out, HTC announced that the Rezound would one of the first phones to receive ICS in I believe January or February. That was later changed to Mayish and then changed to July. Granted this is likely Verizon's fault but its still unfortunate that HTC has to bend to Verizon's will when Google and Apple basically say **** you to them which is why I'm likely going to either the iPhone or next Nexus depending on which hardware is more enticing.
So will the DNA be getting sense 5 and android 4.2 or will they do us like the thunderbolt and forget about it cuz you can buy the one?
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This has been asked and posted countless times
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I think there is at least an attempt to give one Android update. If you are lucky you get 2. What I mean is aside from security or "fix" updates you will get an Android level update. For instance the Thunderbolt, shipped with 2.2, got an update to 2.3, was lucky to get one to 4.0. Rezound, shipped with 2.3, got an update to 4.0. Now the DNA, shipped with 4.1, should get a 4.2 update. Doubtful it will get a 4.3 (or 5.0) update, but possible. This is just from my experience and observations.
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I think there is at least an attempt to give one Android update. If you are lucky you get 2. What I mean is aside from security or "fix" updates you will get an Android level update. For instance the Thunderbolt, shipped with 2.2, got an update to 2.3, was lucky to get one to 4.0. Rezound, shipped with 2.3, got an update to 4.0. Now the DNA, shipped with 4.1, should get a 4.2 update. Doubtful it will get a 4.3 (or 5.0) update, but possible. This is just from my experience and observations.
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I think HTC will make 2 updates for the GLOBAL DNA phone and possibly one for Verizon, but Verizon will only officially put out 1 update IMO. They won't sink any more $$ into the DNA. But that doesn't matter since as long as the GLOBAL version exists, Verizon users will get theirs. After Moonshine, how can we not believe our DEV can do anything. The only thing that would hurt this phone is if Beaups leaves the DNA community. I've seen where just one strong dev left the community for my phone and the phone support practically all but dried up. He seems to be the king of the DNA. As long as he supports it, we'll be fine.
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I think HTC will make 2 updates for the GLOBAL DNA phone and possibly one for Verizon, but Verizon will only officially put out 1 update IMO. They won't sink any more $$ into the DNA. But that doesn't matter since as long as the GLOBAL version exists, Verizon users will get theirs. After Moonshine, how can we not believe our DEV can do anything. The only thing that would hurt this phone is if Beaups leaves the DNA community. I've seen where just one strong dev left the community for my phone and the phone support practically all but dried up. He seems to be the king of the DNA. As long as he supports it, we'll be fine.
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Beaups doesn't develop ROMs. If he left there would be no difference as far as that goes.
Personally I don't really care if verizon decides to push newer updates we have awesome devs and I'm sure they will do what they can to get us those updates
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Beaups doesn't develop ROMs. If he left there would be no difference as far as that goes.
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beaups runs on stock rom.
Somewhat related question. I recently moonshined and now have all the s-off goodness that comes along with it (still on stock ROM minus bloat). Question is, when Verizon starts pushing the next software update, do I need to worry about my phone trying to accept it? Does the customized hboot preclude us moonshiners from getting the update?
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Somewhat related question. I recently moonshined and now have all the s-off goodness that comes along with it (still on stock ROM minus bloat). Question is, when Verizon starts pushing the next software update, do I need to worry about my phone trying to accept it? Does the customized hboot preclude us moonshiners from getting the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed. At the least I believe (and its been a while since I go an update on the phone with a custom recovery) that the recovery will not automatically install it. But I think there should be something you can freeze or remove that would prevent the OTA.
The HTC rep I talked to yesterday claimed thatthe DNA is HTCs favorite device. Even more favored than the One. He also claimed that the DNA, for that reason, will be supported with various updates for years to come....carrier permitting.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed. At the least I believe (and its been a while since I go an update on the phone with a custom recovery) that the recovery will not automatically install it. But I think there should be something you can freeze or remove that would prevent the OTA.
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Yes, I have TWRP recovery installed.
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The HTC rep I talked to yesterday claimed thatthe DNA is HTCs favorite device. Even more favored than the One. He also claimed that the DNA, for that reason, will be supported with various updates for years to come....carrier permitting.
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He was trying to make you feel better by saying so. From VZ track records, we'll be lucky to see Sense 5 by the end of the year if HTC releases it in the next 3 months.
There's no reason it shouldn't get updated. It's still quite new, and hardware is top notch. Now when? Who frigging knows! Verizon hates it's customers.
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It does have the hardware and specs. Take Verizon out of the picture and this phone would already be on sense 5 (maybe not 4.2.2 yet). I think once the HTC One drops on Verizon it won't be long before the DNA gets it. Kinda funny Verizon is the last major carrier to get the HTC One and S4. They gotta get their dirty little fingers in there first, just so beaups, adamoutler and crew tell them to suck it.
Honestly, the ONLY thing I like about Verizon is there data speeds. Other wise I'd never of jumped ship from sprint.
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I am with Verizon for the Coverage and my unlimited data. If they took that away I think I would go to At&t, they are close in coverage and we have LTE here.
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I am with Verizon for the Coverage and my unlimited data. If they took that away I think I would go to At&t, they are close in coverage and we have LTE here.
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I or my girlfriend have had every major carrier minus Sprint over the last year+ and Verizon was hands down the fastest and most reliable. AT&T's LTE is a joke.
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So will the DNA be getting sense 5 and android 4.2 or will they do us like the thunderbolt and forget about it cuz you can buy the one?
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The thunderbolt got a recent ICS update, how is that "forgetting about it"?
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The thunderbolt got a recent ICS update, how is that "forgetting about it"?
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Yes that's forgetting abbot it it took almost 4 years and the phone to be Obsolete for it to happen they stopped selling that phone b4 the update
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Yes that's forgetting abbot it it took almost 4 years and the phone to be Obsolete for it to happen they stopped selling that phone b4 the update
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Let's get the facts straight, it was just shy of 2 years from the phone getting introduced that it got ICS (Intro March 2011, ICS Feb 2013). Yes it was after the phone was EOL, but at least they did it.
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Let's get the facts straight, it was just shy of 2 years from the phone getting introduced that it got ICS (Intro March 2011, ICS Feb 2013). Yes it was after the phone was EOL, but at least they did it.
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Yep, that was exactly my point. We might not see a TIMELY update, but I am sure we will see one eventually.
TBH, if one is running the stock ROM, they are so far from stock Android it isn't funny anyways. I actually prefer Sense 4+ to Sense 5, HATE how they took away the animated lockscreen weather.
Did Verizon and HTC break up?
The only HTC phone available on their site is the Incredible 4G and its for pre-owned only.
In store they have nothing.
I found it interesting.
Edit: Nevermind. Found out why.
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Did Verizon and HTC break up?
The only HTC phone available on their site is the Incredible 4G and its for pre-owned only.
In store they have nothing.
I found it interesting.
Edit: Nevermind. Found out why.
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Why is this?
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Why is this?
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The arrival of the HTC One
Thurs
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The arrival of the HTC One
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HTC changed from creating several phones each year to just focusing on a single phone and selling it on each carrier. Your question is interesting that you are just a day early. The HTC One is set to be released Thurs (along with a Motorloa phone.)
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HTC changed from creating several phones each year to just focusing on a single phone and selling it on each carrier. Your question is interesting that you are just a day early. The HTC One is set to be released Thurs (along with a Motorloa phone.)
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Probably for the best since they couldnt seem to hold up the support on so many phones.
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Probably for the best since they couldnt seem to hold up the support on so many phones.
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Just got an email from Verizon, the One is available now!
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Just got an email from Verizon, the One is available now!
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And to celebrate, a day later Verizon Wireless forced HTC to take the bootloader unlock down from htc.dev site.
Yea looks like Verizon certainly has a firm grip around HTC and Samsung's balls. Both flagship devices are now locked down with the latest softwares.
And with VZW locking down the bootloader on the One, it is now time that VZW and I break up.
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With great devs on here I'm sure there will be workarounds soon...granted I'm using a Verizon rezound I'm not on their carrier...thanks to the devs....if not I wouldn't of been able to use the gsm capabilities to just go prepaid on this phone with straight talk...ya data is a little slow and could go with other sim carriers but I'm happy where I'm at
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REV3NT3CH said:
With great devs on here I'm sure there will be workarounds soon...granted I'm using a Verizon rezound I'm not on their carrier...thanks to the devs....if not I wouldn't of been able to use the gsm capabilities to just go prepaid on this phone with straight talk...ya data is a little slow and could go with other sim carriers but I'm happy where I'm at
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Are you able to get 3g/4g on your current GSM carrier?
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Found this and I'm not sure if it's real...
http://**********.website/upgradeupdate-sony-xperia-z3v-to-5-0-lollipop/
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Anyone confirm?
sookieball said:
Found this and I'm not sure if it's real...
http://**********.website/upgradeupdate-sony-xperia-z3v-to-5-0-lollipop/
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Anyone confirm?
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link is invalid
Its fake
Yeah I thought it was too good to be true. Lol
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I think we're getting to desperate for our own good before we could even get some common sense grounds to pop in. A link looking like they is too suspicious and couldn't possibly be trustworthy. Just rely on the ones that are well known.
As a matter of fact, it's really all on the hands of Verizon. Whenever they release it, they do it. Either them or though the Xperifirm software...
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/5...es-imminent-for-t-mobile-verizon-z3v-next.htm
lollipop is coming guys. :fingers-crossed:
Holy crud, went through this with the old LG Spectrum, at least we finally got custom ROMs for them.
Another reason for VZW to allow bootloader unlock, it would keep the masses happy and the masses would not have to wait for VZW to add all the bloatware to the ROMs.
With lollipop being more locked down and root exploit resistant we need the bootloader unlock more than ever now.
Oh, VZW Droid Turbo to receive lollipop in June.
xuanphucn said:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/5...es-imminent-for-t-mobile-verizon-z3v-next.htm
lollipop is coming guys. :fingers-crossed:
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My big questions are:
1. When (of course)?
2. Will it include VoLTE?
3. Will it include functional Visual Voicemail?
4. Will it fix auto-bluetooth functions?
I'm back to using a *@#% iPhone 6 for now...when connected to bluetooth in my 2015 Volvo the damned Z3v would call the wrong number. I'd pick someone from my "recent" call log and it would dial some random person in my address book instead about a third of the time. Not even someone I'd called in years. That's just totally unacceptable.
I really want my son's LG G2. Maybe I can trick him into a trade?
verizon blows... this device is tight, verizon is not.