So will the DNA be getting sense 5 and android 4.2 or will they do us like the thunderbolt and forget about it cuz you can buy the one?
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This has been asked and posted countless times
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I think there is at least an attempt to give one Android update. If you are lucky you get 2. What I mean is aside from security or "fix" updates you will get an Android level update. For instance the Thunderbolt, shipped with 2.2, got an update to 2.3, was lucky to get one to 4.0. Rezound, shipped with 2.3, got an update to 4.0. Now the DNA, shipped with 4.1, should get a 4.2 update. Doubtful it will get a 4.3 (or 5.0) update, but possible. This is just from my experience and observations.
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I think there is at least an attempt to give one Android update. If you are lucky you get 2. What I mean is aside from security or "fix" updates you will get an Android level update. For instance the Thunderbolt, shipped with 2.2, got an update to 2.3, was lucky to get one to 4.0. Rezound, shipped with 2.3, got an update to 4.0. Now the DNA, shipped with 4.1, should get a 4.2 update. Doubtful it will get a 4.3 (or 5.0) update, but possible. This is just from my experience and observations.
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I think HTC will make 2 updates for the GLOBAL DNA phone and possibly one for Verizon, but Verizon will only officially put out 1 update IMO. They won't sink any more $$ into the DNA. But that doesn't matter since as long as the GLOBAL version exists, Verizon users will get theirs. After Moonshine, how can we not believe our DEV can do anything. The only thing that would hurt this phone is if Beaups leaves the DNA community. I've seen where just one strong dev left the community for my phone and the phone support practically all but dried up. He seems to be the king of the DNA. As long as he supports it, we'll be fine.
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I think HTC will make 2 updates for the GLOBAL DNA phone and possibly one for Verizon, but Verizon will only officially put out 1 update IMO. They won't sink any more $$ into the DNA. But that doesn't matter since as long as the GLOBAL version exists, Verizon users will get theirs. After Moonshine, how can we not believe our DEV can do anything. The only thing that would hurt this phone is if Beaups leaves the DNA community. I've seen where just one strong dev left the community for my phone and the phone support practically all but dried up. He seems to be the king of the DNA. As long as he supports it, we'll be fine.
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Beaups doesn't develop ROMs. If he left there would be no difference as far as that goes.
Personally I don't really care if verizon decides to push newer updates we have awesome devs and I'm sure they will do what they can to get us those updates
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Beaups doesn't develop ROMs. If he left there would be no difference as far as that goes.
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beaups runs on stock rom.
Somewhat related question. I recently moonshined and now have all the s-off goodness that comes along with it (still on stock ROM minus bloat). Question is, when Verizon starts pushing the next software update, do I need to worry about my phone trying to accept it? Does the customized hboot preclude us moonshiners from getting the update?
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Somewhat related question. I recently moonshined and now have all the s-off goodness that comes along with it (still on stock ROM minus bloat). Question is, when Verizon starts pushing the next software update, do I need to worry about my phone trying to accept it? Does the customized hboot preclude us moonshiners from getting the update?
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Do you have a custom recovery installed. At the least I believe (and its been a while since I go an update on the phone with a custom recovery) that the recovery will not automatically install it. But I think there should be something you can freeze or remove that would prevent the OTA.
The HTC rep I talked to yesterday claimed thatthe DNA is HTCs favorite device. Even more favored than the One. He also claimed that the DNA, for that reason, will be supported with various updates for years to come....carrier permitting.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed. At the least I believe (and its been a while since I go an update on the phone with a custom recovery) that the recovery will not automatically install it. But I think there should be something you can freeze or remove that would prevent the OTA.
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Yes, I have TWRP recovery installed.
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The HTC rep I talked to yesterday claimed thatthe DNA is HTCs favorite device. Even more favored than the One. He also claimed that the DNA, for that reason, will be supported with various updates for years to come....carrier permitting.
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He was trying to make you feel better by saying so. From VZ track records, we'll be lucky to see Sense 5 by the end of the year if HTC releases it in the next 3 months.
There's no reason it shouldn't get updated. It's still quite new, and hardware is top notch. Now when? Who frigging knows! Verizon hates it's customers.
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It does have the hardware and specs. Take Verizon out of the picture and this phone would already be on sense 5 (maybe not 4.2.2 yet). I think once the HTC One drops on Verizon it won't be long before the DNA gets it. Kinda funny Verizon is the last major carrier to get the HTC One and S4. They gotta get their dirty little fingers in there first, just so beaups, adamoutler and crew tell them to suck it.
Honestly, the ONLY thing I like about Verizon is there data speeds. Other wise I'd never of jumped ship from sprint.
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I am with Verizon for the Coverage and my unlimited data. If they took that away I think I would go to At&t, they are close in coverage and we have LTE here.
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I am with Verizon for the Coverage and my unlimited data. If they took that away I think I would go to At&t, they are close in coverage and we have LTE here.
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I or my girlfriend have had every major carrier minus Sprint over the last year+ and Verizon was hands down the fastest and most reliable. AT&T's LTE is a joke.
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So will the DNA be getting sense 5 and android 4.2 or will they do us like the thunderbolt and forget about it cuz you can buy the one?
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The thunderbolt got a recent ICS update, how is that "forgetting about it"?
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The thunderbolt got a recent ICS update, how is that "forgetting about it"?
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Yes that's forgetting abbot it it took almost 4 years and the phone to be Obsolete for it to happen they stopped selling that phone b4 the update
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Yes that's forgetting abbot it it took almost 4 years and the phone to be Obsolete for it to happen they stopped selling that phone b4 the update
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Let's get the facts straight, it was just shy of 2 years from the phone getting introduced that it got ICS (Intro March 2011, ICS Feb 2013). Yes it was after the phone was EOL, but at least they did it.
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Let's get the facts straight, it was just shy of 2 years from the phone getting introduced that it got ICS (Intro March 2011, ICS Feb 2013). Yes it was after the phone was EOL, but at least they did it.
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Yep, that was exactly my point. We might not see a TIMELY update, but I am sure we will see one eventually.
TBH, if one is running the stock ROM, they are so far from stock Android it isn't funny anyways. I actually prefer Sense 4+ to Sense 5, HATE how they took away the animated lockscreen weather.
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What the heck is the deal with the new EVO V 4G on Virgin Mobile. This phone is literally the exact same that we are using and it comes with an OFFICIAL ICS update. We EVO 3D users still do not have a truly official ICS update, so what the heck? Why don't original EVO 3D owners have a ICS upgrade while owners of the exact same phone with a different name do. WTF HTC?!?!? First HTC phone and probably last; the lack of support(dev included, compared to other phones of the same calibre) is just ridiculous. Looks like the next google device is the way to go.
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What the heck is the deal with the new EVO V 4G on Virgin Mobile. This phone is literally the exact same that we are using and it comes with an OFFICIAL ICS update. We EVO 3D users still do not have a truly official ICS update, so what the heck? Why don't original EVO 3D owners have a ICS upgrade while owners of the exact same phone with a different name do. WTF HTC?!?!? First HTC phone and probably last; the lack of support(dev included, compared to other phones of the same calibre) is just ridiculous. Looks like the next google device is the way to go.
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Not htc at all, you can thank sprint for this.
I personally think our devs have done a fantastic job. Plenty of ics builds to, why so mad.
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Not htc at all, you can thank sprint for this.
I personally think our devs have done a fantastic job. Plenty of ics builds to, why so mad.
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Actually, this does in fact fall on HTC. You can't very well blame Sprint for the lack of official ICS for all the branded and unbranded/unlocked GSM 3d models now can you?
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What the heck is the deal with the new EVO V 4G on Virgin Mobile. This phone is literally the exact same that we are using and it comes with an OFFICIAL ICS update. We EVO 3D users still do not have a truly official ICS update, so what the heck? Why don't original EVO 3D owners have a ICS upgrade while owners of the exact same phone with a different name do. WTF HTC?!?!? First HTC phone and probably last; the lack of support(dev included, compared to other phones of the same calibre) is just ridiculous. Looks like the next google device is the way to go.
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Have you even checked out the dev section lately?
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Oh yea... I'm a *****. Haha!
Sprint did this to keep the production and life of the EVO 3D going, just on a "different" carrier. Even when I called Sprint to have my EVO 3D replaced a couple weeks ago, they were going to try and figure out a way to send me a Virgin Mobile 3D and get it working on Sprint (Yeah, they actually said that. Then I told them, 'I'm pretty sure you guys can't do that.')
This way the EVO 3D and WiMax lives on for a little longer, and they can usher in the LTE with their new lineup. WiMax will be a hand-me-down to Virgin Mobile eventually, just like the EVO 3D is to them, and the EVO Design is to Boost.
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Sprint did this to keep the production and life of the EVO 3D going, just on a "different" carrier. Even when I called Sprint to have my EVO 3D replaced a couple weeks ago, they were going to try and figure out a way to send me a Virgin Mobile 3D and get it working on Sprint (Yeah, they actually said that. Then I told them, 'I'm pretty sure you guys can't do that.')
This way the EVO 3D and WiMax lives on for a little longer, and they can usher in the LTE with their new lineup. WiMax will be a hand-me-down to Virgin Mobile eventually, just like the EVO 3D is to them, and the EVO Design is to Boost.
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The evo3d isn't even close to a hand me down for them. Considering they have ics, and well we don't.
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Have you even checked out the dev section lately?
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This is defeating the purpose of the OP. Again, I've said this before.. HTC fails when it came to this phone. The customer service is piss, they are boosting there PR, and making us suffer.
Oh hey you want ics too bad, root and install a Custom rom. Defeats the purpose of everything HTC. People complain that to make the iphone like a HTC they have to jailbreak it, we'll, HTC is doing the same thing with their phones.. People are to blind to see it.
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What the heck is the deal with the new EVO V 4G on Virgin Mobile. This phone is literally the exact same that we are using and it comes with an OFFICIAL ICS update. We EVO 3D users still do not have a truly official ICS update, so what the heck? Why don't original EVO 3D owners have a ICS upgrade while owners of the exact same phone with a different name do. WTF HTC?!?!? First HTC phone and probably last; the lack of support(dev included, compared to other phones of the same calibre) is just ridiculous. Looks like the next google device is the way to go.
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Can't blame the developers for the degree of difficulty it takes to make custom roms for this phone without sources. I can honestly say if it wasn't for the 3d camera stuff, this phone would have a hell of a lot more development. Now HTC has been sandbagging as far a source code and kernel information and this is making me look more and more at the Galaxy S3 vs the Evo Lte.
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The evo3d isn't even close to a hand me down for them. Considering they have ics, and well we don't.
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It does when it hits that 1-year mark, and Sprint starts releasing their next generation phones with next generation connectivity. It's a hand-me-down now...
Samsung drops support at launch for most devices
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I know there are ics roms available based on leaks... But the point is support your flagship devices first. That's in part why people buy them.
I am running a ics rom and there are some bugs. The one that bothers me is the front camera reversing pics. And then there was the fact no one knew the firmware messed things up for a lot of us. Sprint and htc need to support us first or we won't buy their flagship again.
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I know there are ics roms available based on leaks... But the point is support your flagship devices first. That's in part why people buy them.
I am running a ics rom and there are some bugs. The one that bothers me is the front camera reversing pics. And then there was the fact no one knew the firmware messed things up for a lot of us. Sprint and htc need to support us first or we won't buy their flagship again.
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I am running an ICS ROM and there are absolutely no bugs at all. The front camera reversing the pics was an instagram bug, not ICS and blaming anyone but yourself for flashing the VM firmware is just plain silly. If you want to blame anybody, blame sprint. The reason that VM got ICS is because Sprint didn't have to take a buttload of time adding their crapware to the image and then more time testing it. They should have done what they have done in the past and "leak" the image for us to "test" and find the bugs.
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Most truthful post yet.
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I am running an ICS ROM and there are absolutely no bugs at all. The front camera reversing the pics was an instagram bug, not ICS and blaming anyone but yourself for flashing the VM firmware is just plain silly. If you want to blame anybody, blame sprint. The reason that VM got ICS is because Sprint didn't have to take a buttload of time adding their crapware to the image and then more time testing it. They should have done what they have done in the past and "leak" the image for us to "test" and find the bugs.
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Yes, the firmware was my fault but to be fair some of the first leaks said to flash it for the rom to work. I don't want to offset the blame, but at the time we didn't know much about it and i was impatient (my fault for that).
Anyway... I don't have instagram, never installed it... yet still have that bug. i've had it since a full wipe. Tried 3 different roms... exists in all. so not sure why I have it if others experience it.
I've had that reversed front camera issue for awhile. Doesn't bug me though, it still remains on my current Rom (MikVirgin). Certain camera apps allow you to flip that ffc image, apparently this happens on plenty of other devices also.
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Ok, I'm new here so this may be way off the subject.... There are a few folks that have posted a full odexed and deodexed versions of the new ICS rom on our HTC Evo V's. Can't you just flash that rom to your phone and have everything working like it's supposed to? Just asking.
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Ok, I'm new here so this may be way off the subject.... There are a few folks that have posted a full odexed and deodexed versions of the new ICS rom on our HTC Evo V's. Can't you just flash that rom to your phone and have everything working like it's supposed to? Just asking.
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Yeah...have no idea how these people have so many problems with these ROMS. Must be doing it wrong.
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get this then virgin is also getting the iphone
go look at there site
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get this then virgin is also getting the iphone
go look at there site
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Yeah, but it will probably be at full contract price...who the hell wants to pay $600-$800 for a iCrap.
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Yeah, but it will probably be at full contract price...who the hell wants to pay $600-$800 for a iCrap.
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not me but i did get the evo v i like it
I've complained to Sprint on the delay of ICS for the EVO 3D. They have told me that they don't have the software and are unable to send it. Also they have told me that they have no control when HTC will send the upgrade to them.
Now, this makes no sense to me. I would think that Sprint has something to do with this and it's not just a HTC issue. In fact, HTC told me that it's a joint effort between them and Sprint, which makes sense to me.
This BS with the update is really making me consider getting a Galaxy Nexus for my next phone. But, I have concerns about Sprint just refusing to let the update happen, which is what I think is going on with the EVO 3D ICS update.
So, to my question, how do system updates work?
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I truly don't believe its a sprint issue at this point. HTC has been less than forthcoming about updates for the 3d (or any HTC phone, for that matter).
I'm sure sprint has to QC check and approve/push the update (and probably has final say as to whether or not the update gets pushed at all) but I'm fairly certain the ball is in HTCs court right now.
Then again, this is 100% opinion and speculation on my end - I'm probably completely off base.
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I truly don't believe its a sprint issue at this point. HTC has been less than forthcoming about updates for the 3d (or any HTC phone, for that matter).
I'm sure sprint has to QC check and approve/push the update (and probably has final say as to whether or not the update gets pushed at all) but I'm fairly certain the ball is in HTCs court right now.
Then again, this is 100% opinion and speculation on my end - I'm probably completely off base.
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Actually, no. Look on there blog and they have dates listed for ICS release on many different phones.
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Actually, no. Look on there blog and they have dates listed for ICS release on many different phones.
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Whose blog? Sprints our HTCs?
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Whose blog? Sprints our HTCs?
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HTC, Sprint hasn't officially announced anything.
www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
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HTC, Sprint hasn't officially announced anything.
www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
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Oh yeah, that. That's been known for a while.
Regardless, that still gives HTC 25 more days before they have to provide sprint with software to test (assuming that is, in fact, the way it works - I still don't know) just to be compliant with their own schedule. On top of that, sprint will have to test and approve the update before pushing it out.
IMO, I think we'd see leaked RUUs for sprint if they actually had a functional ROM in testing right now. But at the same time, we've got the leaked ROM from virgin mobile, so who knows?
Either way, I'm glad I jumped ship and left sprint
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Ok, so I just revisited the 3d forums for the first time since jumping ship.
I revise my opinion. Based on the fact that pretty much every other carrier seems to be receiving OTA updates (based on the massive number of threads in the general forum), I'm gong to go ahead and assume that sprint has, in fact, dropped the ball on this one.
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I would assume that once HTC finally developes the updates, Sprint test it and adds/deletes anything they want to before it is released to the end user.
Ok, yes, we agree that Sprint sucks on getting the upgrade out.
However, my question still stands. How Do Updates Work? I'm presuming that Google sends the upgrade to HTC, they make it work on their OS. Then they send it to Sprint, which makes their changes to work on their network and then they deliver the update.
Anyone got a clue?
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Be skeptical of course, since this is coming from a support email instead of an official statement by HTC.
I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I wouldn't blame it entirely on HTC. No way was Vzw about to let an HTC device get an ICS update before the RAZR.
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Yeah, my blame should have been toward Verizon mostly. I really do hate Verizon between forcing us off our grandfathered plans, loading their phones with bloat and delaying updates.
I'm most likely waiting till the new iPhone and new Nexus devices come out (later this year most likely) and then buy one outright and hand my phone to my mother so we can stay on unlimited data. Nexus because of AOSP, iPhone because Apple usually gets what Apple wants and doesn't let the carriers load their phones with rubbish (Same with the nexus).
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Yeah, my blame should have been toward Verizon mostly. I really do hate Verizon between forcing us off our grandfathered plans, loading their phones with bloat and delaying updates.
I'm most likely waiting till the new iPhone and new Nexus devices come out (later this year most likely) and then buy one outright and hand my phone to my mother so we can stay on unlimited data. Nexus because of AOSP, iPhone because Apple usually gets what Apple wants and doesn't let the carriers load their phones with rubbish (Same with the nexus).
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Why does everyone think the new nexus will be on Verizon?
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I wouldn't blame it entirely on HTC. No way was Vzw about to let an HTC device get an ICS update before the RAZR.
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Exactly. Also they wouldnt let it get ICS before the HTC Incredible 4G LTE came out. That is their new top of the line HTC phone they sell. If the Rezound had ICS it would be more desirable than it because of the HD screen.
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Why does everyone think the new nexus will be on Verizon?
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Then I would get an iPhone. I'm waiting for both to drop before I make my decision. I'm either going to end up with a no fooling around Nexus that does not come preloaded with VZNavigator, Golf, NFS, Blockbuster and whatever other guff Verizon chooses to put on the device or an iPhone.
Highly doubt Verizon will want the next Nexus considering it stands against everything they stand for and they dragged their feet with the GNex.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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I'm switching carriers either way at least when my contract ends. Im not going to buy a phone full price and sure as hell not going to fall into their share everything plan.
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If Verizon doesn't have the next Nexus then I'm switching carriers, I'm tired of their bull****.
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Where ya going? Sprint? Lol. T-Mobile?
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Where ya going? Sprint? Lol. T-Mobile?
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All carriers have their drawbacks. The only one I would consider it would be at&t because you can use most any gsm phone.
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All carriers have their drawbacks. The only one I would consider it would be at&t because you can use most any gsm phone.
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Try telling that to AT&T's support people. I have a co-worker who has been dealing with them for a week because they dropped her data plan when she got a Galaxy Nexus (unlocked) to replace her Atrix which got stolen. Their system doesn't recognize the phone, so it apparently refuses to let them set it up with a smartphone data plan. I told her she should try going into the store and see if they can fix it (and refuse to leave until it is).
I ran into something similar when I was with them a couple of years ago. I bought an unlocked Nokia E63 (technically a smartphone), but their system insisted on letting me keep my $30 unlimited data + text plan at the time, instead of making me upgrade to more expensive separate data and text messaging plans. I'm guessing in order to force people who get smartphones onto smartphone plans, they have to program their billing system to know which phones are considered smartphones. If you bring your own device, it throws a monkey wrench into that process. The US carriers take a good idea (portability, which is inherent in the way GSM works) and completely screw it up.
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Then I would get an iPhone. I'm waiting for both to drop before I make my decision. I'm either going to end up with a no fooling around Nexus that does not come preloaded with VZNavigator, Golf, NFS, Blockbuster and whatever other guff Verizon chooses to put on the device or an iPhone.
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I'm in the same boat. I might just sell my Rezound on Craigslist and buy a nexus.
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I just love how HTC completely gives everyone the run around. We were supposed to have ICS months ago. Thank god the devs were able to give us awesome stable ICS roms literally months before this OTA.
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I just wanna defend HTC here. If I remember correctly, June-July was the estimate HTC officially gave us. Somebody done lied to you, son.
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Going to TMobile when my contract expires in 2014, riding unlimited until then.
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Yeah I guess if they wait until the end of july to give us ICS then JellyBean will be just our of reach... what a shock.
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Going to TMobile when my contract expires in 2014, riding unlimited until then.
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That's what I am thinking as well. I really like the sound of T-Mobile's $30 a month plan.
I already switched to AT&T. Sold the rezound and picked up a one x. cheaper bill, and same service? Yup!
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I just wanna defend HTC here. If I remember correctly, June-July was the estimate HTC officially gave us. Somebody done lied to you, son.
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When the Rezound came out, HTC announced that the Rezound would one of the first phones to receive ICS in I believe January or February. That was later changed to Mayish and then changed to July. Granted this is likely Verizon's fault but its still unfortunate that HTC has to bend to Verizon's will when Google and Apple basically say **** you to them which is why I'm likely going to either the iPhone or next Nexus depending on which hardware is more enticing.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/jelly-bean-sprint-galaxy-s3/
While they may be getting it now, HTC will be releasing to the One X this month (as far as what they said). I would imagine we'd get it shortly thereafter for the EVO. I think they're stepping up their game, and this just proves it. They're the first US carrier to drop Jelly Bean for a phone that's available on almost all of the US carriers.
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While they may be getting it now, HTC will be releasing to the One X this month (as far as what they said). I would imagine we'd get it shortly thereafter for the EVO. I think they're stepping up their game, and this just proves it. They're the first US carrier to drop Jelly Bean for a phone that's available on almost all of the US carriers.
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I hope so!!! kinda shocked samsung didnt let the note 2 come out first before this upgrade though
Unbranded One X's seem to be getting it tomorrow. We'll see when we get it based on that info.
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And 4.1.2 is already in the works to be released before end of the year on sgs3
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knotcw said:
I hope so!!! kinda shocked samsung didnt let the note 2 come out first before this upgrade though
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actually note 2 comes out today on sprint
I didn't get an update for JB on my mom's SGS3. Manually checked too.
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Cool, nice to see Sprint not slouching on the updates, I just hope that means the same for our phone very soon.
Genjinaro said:
Cool, nice to see Sprint not slouching on the updates, I just hope that means the same for our phone very soon.
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I've seen an HTC rep with JB on his EVO 4G LTE. As in , verified in hand. It's being worked on. That's all I'm going to say.
Robbzilla said:
I've seen an HTC rep with JB on his EVO 4G LTE. As in , verified in hand. It's being worked on. That's all I'm going to say.
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I'll be the one to ask. What type of representative from HTC was this?
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I've seen an HTC rep with JB on his EVO 4G LTE. As in , verified in hand. It's being worked on. That's all I'm going to say.
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Yeah, and I know you asked him 'when' we should expect to see the rollout?
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a22matic said:
Yeah, and I know you asked him 'when' we should expect to see the rollout?
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Yeah, like he'd/she'd tell me....
Even if JB was at 100%, it still has to go through Sprint testing you know. HTC won't know until Sprint tells them.
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Yeah, like he'd/she'd tell me....
Even if JB was at 100%, it still has to go through Sprint testing you know. HTC won't know until Sprint tells them.
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I know, I know, but it would've been good to at least try!
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The problem isn't Sprint it's HTC.
Droiddinho said:
The problem isn't Sprint it's HTC.
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It's not Sprint's problem, yet. It will become Sprint's problem after they get it and take forever to do their work to make it worse.
Of course I just had to whip mine out and show him/her the lovely 4.1.2 from CM10.... :angel:
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It's not Sprint's problem, yet. It will become Sprint's problem after they get it and take forever to do their work to make it worse.
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The fact that they don't have it as yet is proof enough as to where the problem lies. The SIII is a newer phone yet it gets an OS update before the One X/ EVO? HTC's ship is about to capsize.
Droiddinho said:
The fact that they don't have it as yet is proof enough as to where the problem lies. The SIII is a newer phone yet it gets an OS update before the One X/ EVO? HTC's ship is about to capsize.
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Don't forget, Samsung's manpower size is like >>>>>>>>>> than HTC's. Samsung is a much huger company.
I'm dying for Sense to be updated to JB cuz I REALLY like the Sense camera and a few other things. JB stock is a speed demon and all, but even the AOSP camera sucks compared to Sense. I bought this damn phone mainly for the camera's prowess, but that's stripped without Sense. Yet, with the current Sense, I hate using my phone cuz it's crap performance. DAMN YOU, TRADE-OFFS! I JUST WANT TO HAVE MY CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO!
Saw that the 1x was getting 4.12 in Taiwan. Probably why it's taking longer.
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Saw that the 1x was getting 4.12 in Taiwan. Probably why it's taking longer.
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That's good on them if they decided to wait for 4.1.2, but it has to come out like SOON.
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Droiddinho said:
The fact that they don't have it as yet is proof enough as to where the problem lies. The SIII is a newer phone yet it gets an OS update before the One X/ EVO? HTC's ship is about to capsize.
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Also, look at the differences in HTC and Samsung as far as overlays. There's a lot more work going into Sense than there is for Samsung's phones.
I'm sure there is some logical answer to this that someone can explain, but it is something that has been on my mind lately. Why do we even have fragmentation of Android on our devices? 4.4 just came out, and despite the rumors the chances we will ever go beyond 4.1.1 on our DNA without the use of ROMs is slim. This is because we have to wait for HTC to make the update, then Verizon to push it out.
But why don't we cut out Verizon? How about HTC, Samsung, Sony, etc push the updates directly to the device without Verizon? Maybe HTC has something like a HTC Device Manager that lets you select your device and OS, and shows you your version along with the latest with the option to update. It shouldn't be too hard... Apple does it. Even though I dislike iPhones, their updating structure is superior. Updating should be in the hands of the manufacture, not the carrier. That way only HTC is to blame.
It shouldn't be too hard for manufacturers to make updates for their devices since they should have people being paid to do such. Here on XDA we have a great community of people that seem to do more in their free time and it quicker than anyone employed by the manufacturer.
Last thing, Google can help with fragmentation by putting more features into the Playstore. A great example is the the Google Keyboard. Beforehand the only way to get it was on something like a Nexus, but now anyone can get it. Why can't Google put the new KitKat launcher and Dialer into the Playstore?
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Jaggar345 said:
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Exactly this. The Apple thing is moot. Apple is the only company who releases iOS, so Apple has the choice if they want their phone on that carrier. Android manufacturers are a dime a dozen, so they have to sign contracts and follow what the carrier wants to keep their devices on that carrier.
What is more devastating? No Samsung phones on a certain carrier, or no iOS? The carrier has a handful of android devices to choose from if one manufacturer drops. If Apple drops, there will be no more iOS on that carrier.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Jaggar345 said:
Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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If i remember correctly it's Google that doesn't give them nexus
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Jaggar345 said:
Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Verizon did pick up a nexus phone. The Galaxy Nexus, and it was just as bad about updates.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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jamiethemorris said:
According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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The Nexus 5 has CDMA support, but only on Sprint. It doesn't have support for Verizon's bands.
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Hmmm... Didn't know that. Even more reason for me to believe there's something more to it. I think it may have something to do with Verizon's effort to keep the bootloaders on all its devices locked down like a chastity belt, whereas Google wants the devices to be for unlockable.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
t1gartist said:
well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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Why would it be illegal your not taking any paid apps or anything or breaking the law by doing what you want with your device.
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t1gartist said:
well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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You are thinking of the law about unlocking the Sim lock. Not unlocking the bootloader. Our DNA's are sim unlocked out of the box.
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