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Edited - problem solved for now. Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, that will last.
How long do you have and what is the next level of bandwidth cost?
Just tell me about another free server and how I can transfer all my crap there. I don't know how long I have. I just got their notice.
Just thought I'd throw this out there but it sounds you should sell some add space. It is a great site and the traffic is only going to increase, especially once you get all the "how too's" posted. Then you'll get return "business". You could finally make a little $ for your time and effort. Good job, keep up the good work. In the meantime, I'll figure out how to make a donation using paypal and hope others follow my example.
Sorry, I don't have any information for you on a different web hosting service.
How do I "sell" ad space?
Ya, the first day of launch it got 500 people visiting it. It's increasing daily. I basically used up my monthly bandwidth limit in less than a week's time. And my website doesn't even show up on google yet.
Check this out. I found it after a quick google search. There were tons of others but this one was very infirmative and offered several different methods of how to do it. Think about who your perspective clients are and I believe that your site will sell itself. Show them the numbers and make it attractive for those that get in on the ground level. Then as it gets more traffic you can change your method of billing or charge more, or even have some length to your contracts. Check this out:
http://www.websitetoad.com/sell-advertising-space.htm
If this is not appropriate to post this link please delete it.
Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, this will last.
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Just bought more bandwidth. Hopefully, this will last.
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Put up a PayPal donate button on the site. I am sure people will share the love.
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Put up a PayPal donate button on the site. I am sure people will share the love.
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It's there - he's got it at the bottom of "Start Here".
Just donated - that site is a really big help to direct users to the usual questions that come up.
Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
Do an adfree version. Some of us don't like ads may I ask what app you made?
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Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
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You're right ads are the way to go. Do you have any methods of sharing the app? That will bring more users and that means more income from ads.
Edit: I offer professional mobile marketing consulting if you're interested.
Questions should be asked in Q&A forums, not Development forums.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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Yes sharing. By just putting on the market you are doing passive marketing. By switching to active marketing you can get a higher number of active users and a higher income from ads.
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers
Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
~dylan
Adesense
You can use Google adsense in your app
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You can use Google adsense in your app
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No Adsense is for website not for apps
use Admob or other ad-Networks.
Also, you can try to add some InApp Purchases.
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Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
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Will you share results somewhere?
ps. admob ftw
Lots of great tips in this thread! I am currently making an app as well and plan on attending the Crowdfund Global Expo in San Diego, Jan. 30th-31st. I heard there will be lots of great investors at this event and wanted to take a look for myself. I highly suggest visiting crowdfundweeklynews.com to find out lots of great info about crowdfunding and how it can help people like us!
Probably thru admob first? Then try in-app purchases and stuff like that?
Revmob
Besides google admob, revmob also providing similar service $ too.:good:
http://www.revmobmobileadnetwork.com/
I'm displaying admob ads and using in-app purchases (IAP) to unlock additional levels. After 100 game downloads (it's my first game for android, just released), IAP considerably outperforms ads.
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I'm displaying admob ads and using in-app purchases (IAP) to unlock additional levels. After 100 game downloads (it's my first game for android, just released), IAP considerably outperforms ads.
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You will get higher revenue from ads when you will have more users. But remember you will need active users because they will see your ads(earn by CPM) or they will click on it(earn by CPC) unless you will earn in other way like PPC/CPI or something else.
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Hi! I'm Dylan, the xda intern :victory:
I'm doing some research on how devs monetize their apps. We're currently exploring ways to help you make more money from your apps and we'd like to find out about what you currently do. If you could please, please take this short survey, it would be much appreciated! We promise to keep everything confidential; in fact, the survey is anonymous.
Thanks again! :laugh:
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Hi Dylan that link is not working
PM when you get it up and working, I will do the survey
Interesting stats regarding the e-Commerce. What sort of thing are we talking here, bigger companies re-selling through apps?
Paid app and also ads network. But today is very difficult to monetize app for such competition. you should have very unique and useful app that can pay attention.
edwardchan123 said:
eomobi si a good choice,-Smartwall out ad with High Payment up to 60$ per 1000 new install ! For In-app ad they're paid by CPM not ecpm . what's more they're paid by weeks! if u r interested u can contact me for more info , here is my email address [email protected], or u can send me private messages
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lately heard about eomibi... how long do you work in this field, May we trust the system? ...60$ for 1000 new downloads is not bad if you try to monetize the app via IAP
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we've already had clients earned lot money through our platform
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information of your website is not comprehensive.
you tried to keep the website in a corporate style, but it looks like cheap imitation imho. you should provide more professional and conprehensive information to developers, especially for those who already use other services.
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well,first thank you for your advice, we are actually a new platform in this field which dominated by English corps and a lot of works need to be done, But the good thing is i think we're on our way of growing better and there are achievements which prove that.
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I am happy for your achievements, hope you'll grow both in quantitative and qualitative aspects. And one thing also should be mentioned re website homepage as an advice .. please upload another pic of Fannie Fang (Advertisers affairs) - without that tea cup
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or sell your game
There are lots of ways to make money from the apps. By Adds, CPI Network (cost per install) ,sponsorships and app upgrates
I have an excellent idea that will help you to make huge amount of money from your apps try
http://www.yooarticles.net/article/how-to-make-money-from-ipad-applications
Hi all,
I was investigating different ways to promote my app and I was thinking on appszoom. I thought those reviews were only under payment but I just found out that you can also apply for a free review! However, unders those conditions: "You can also request your review for free and you'll get it published within 60 days"
Has anyone tried a free review with them?
appszoom.com is a very good apps review site
appszoom.com have reviewed two of my apps
* NewsDrift
* Africa Safaris
I really liked the way they did the reviews. You don't have to wait for 60 days. For instance, NewsDrift was reviewed within 48 hours of submitting the app. The reviews were also very well done - I also got to be featured on their home page under Latest Reviews.
I would recommend appszoom any day.
A good way to promote your app/game
I also ad my app/game listed and reviewed by Appzoom.com :
Konbo Monsters
I really think they did a fair review and my game was featured in its Latest Reviews section.
If you want a good way to promote your app, choose the AppZoom.com
Thanks for your answers! Indeed those reviews look pretty professional.
Did any of you use a paid review (specially since you mentioned within 48h) or you took the free option? If so, how much does it cost?
Yes, the reviews are very professional...I did not have to pay anything. Both of my apps were reviewed for free... I was really impressed.
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Hi all,
I was investigating different ways to promote my app and I was thinking on appszoom. I thought those reviews were only under payment but I just found out that you can also apply for a free review! However, unders those conditions: "You can also request your review for free and you'll get it published within 60 days"
Has anyone tried a free review with them?
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I had used their free review service, and got a quick response.
Also, the review process took shorter than expected and was very well done.
I'd used their service for my Android Game.
richardsd1985 said:
Yes, I have tried to submit an app on Appszoom but didn't succed. At last they ask to pay a fixed amount to publish my app review on their website. You should try some other website to publish a free review about your app. You should also consider App store optimization to increase app downloads from app stores.
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Hi Richard,
I'm sorry to hear you were unable to submit your app for review. Did you get in touch with the AppsZoom support? [email protected]
I work there and I'm sure they can work something out for you, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to get a free review, AppsZoom always offers free reviews unless the app is not available in their testing country, or it is not a free app, but in both cases you can send them an APK or promo code so that they can review it, and you don't have to pay. Sorry if there was any confusion!
Tell me if you notice a big increase of downloads after they've reviewed your apps? Many people told me that it is not worth to buy reviews.
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Tell me if you notice a big increase of downloads after they've reviewed your apps? Many people told me that it is not worth to buy reviews.
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Hi! I just want to clarify that the point of reviews is not to get installs, but to increase visibility. If your app is good, people will install it and in AppsZoom reviewed apps receive 4x more installs than those without reviews. While the reviews are not app promotions, but the benefit of the Premium review is that the app appears in a Premium position in the homepage and for a longer period of time than free reviews. The other benefit of Premium reviews (besides being published within 48 hours) is that the developer approves it before it is published, so if you're not happy with the review you can block it from being published. Hope that helps clarify!
monicalorrainemccoy said:
Hi! I just want to clarify that the point of reviews is not to get installs, but to increase visibility. If your app is good, people will install it and in AppsZoom reviewed apps receive 4x more installs than those without reviews. While the reviews are not app promotions, but the benefit of the Premium review is that the app appears in a Premium position in the homepage and for a longer period of time than free reviews. The other benefit of Premium reviews (besides being published within 48 hours) is that the developer approves it before it is published, so if you're not happy with the review you can block it from being published. Hope that helps clarify!
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Ok I see what you mean, but at the end I would like to have more active users. I have to pay for review so i can use ROI to do some calculation. I want to earn so if this investment won't make any profits I don't want to pay for it. Review at good App Review Site = Increase Visibility = More Active Users = Higher Revenue. Right? I just want to know what Review Site is worth to pay.
How long did you wait for an answer?
So guys, those of you that used Appszoom, did you notice any increase in sale at all, or just a nice review?
Update from Appszoom
Hi guys!
A quick update since some things have changed at Appszoom. We've redesigned our homepage, added a few new services, and due to really high demand for reviews, we've removed the free review request, but you can still email us (hello at appszoom dot com) about your app and let us know you'd like a free review. We may not always be able to guarantee a review, but we'll do our best to help you!
Keep in mind that there's a big difference between free and Premium Reviews:
Premium Reviews are ready within 2 work days (free reviews take much longer) and you pre-approve the review before it's published (free reviews are published when ready). The Premium Review also gets featured for up to four days in our homepage and in our "more reviews" section.
If I missed something, just ask away! Happy apping guys!
Hi today i got email from appszoom and i have some questions but i am did not have time to study it yet so sorry if I ask something twice or senselessly. When I want to use Appszoom I have to remove the AdMob SDK? I am make money on google account or appszoom? Because I've found my application to Appszoom but I did not do anything and it seems that it is linked to google.play. Thank you for answers and appszoom for opportunity.
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Hi today i got email from appszoom and i have some questions but i am did not have time to study it yet so sorry if I ask something twice or senselessly. When I want to use Appszoom I have to remove the AdMob SDK? I am make money on google account or appszoom? Because I've found my application to Appszoom but I did not do anything and it seems that it is linked to google.play. Thank you for answers and appszoom for opportunity.
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Save your time and money, your app will drown in millions of other apps, besides, who sits and watch that site anyway
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Save your time and money, your app will drown in millions of other apps, besides, who sits and watch that site anyway
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Okey it's nice but I'd like to know how they work as payments and making money,
On which account the money go? As paid, etc.
When I want to use Appszoom I have to remove the AdMob SDK? I am make money on google account or appszoom?
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Since Appszoom's SDK also displays banners, it's advisable to remove AdMob SDK if you prefer to use Appszoom's SDK, however it is not mandatory. We recommend you only use one banner provider, since otherwise you could overwhelm your app with banners, which doesn't make for a nice user experience. You can make money from the SDK too - it works through cross promotion, which is a free exchange of banner impressions with other apps, or also through monetization, whereby your app displays paid ads for apps and you receive money when someone installs the app from the ad. They are all interstitial banners, meaning they don't appear permanently in any position. You can manage all the SDK stats from your Appszoom dashboard and it's a very flexible service. You can use both cross promotion and monetization or just one or the other.
Regarding your app in Appszoom - it is linked with Google Play (or the app store, depending on the app) meaning when a user clicks to download they are sent to the corresponding market. Appszoom is an app discovery site and app, driving more installs to the markets.
Hope that helps!
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Since Appszoom's SDK also displays banners, it's advisable to remove AdMob SDK if you prefer to use Appszoom's SDK, however it is not mandatory. We recommend you only use one banner provider, since otherwise you could overwhelm your app with banners, which doesn't make for a nice user experience. You can make money from the SDK too - it works through cross promotion, which is a free exchange of banner impressions with other apps, or also through monetization, whereby your app displays paid ads for apps and you receive money when someone installs the app from the ad. They are all interstitial banners, meaning they don't appear permanently in any position. You can manage all the SDK stats from your Appszoom dashboard and it's a very flexible service. You can use both cross promotion and monetization or just one or the other.
Regarding your app in Appszoom - it is linked with Google Play (or the app store, depending on the app) meaning when a user clicks to download they are sent to the corresponding market. Appszoom is an app discovery site and app, driving more installs to the markets.
Hope that helps!
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Thank you very much! It helped. I decided to try it but I'm still waiting for appkey (I clicked on the button), or when I want to get appkey I have to send an email with banners? Thanks again
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Thank you very much! It helped. I decided to try it but I'm still waiting for appkey (I clicked on the button), or when I want to get appkey I have to send an email with banners? Thanks again
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Glad it helped! Could you tell me which app the request is for and I'll make sure we reply to you ASAP. Thanks!
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Glad it helped! Could you tell me which app the request is for and I'll make sure we reply to you ASAP. Thanks!
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