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I have a Thunderbolt running Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3 and Imo's 2.7.0 kernel (I have tried going between Batt Saver/Normal, and now I am on Extreme). I adjusted my brightness of my display to about 20% (instead of automatic), and when I am home I try to be on my Wi-Fi. For some reason, I am not getting a full day's charge out of my Thunderbolt (when I first got the extended battery, I was getting at least 32 hours). I read about people's batteries and I feel people with the stock battery are getting more/equal amount as I am with an extended battery. I tried running Normal setting on Imo's kernel at one point and I did not even last 12 hours, and I was on 3G doing only minimal texting. I tried Batt Saver, and the first day I used it, it was really good (about 10 hours and I was down to 75%, but until I got to 18% or so and then within 3 minutes it was dead, which was weird). But the following day it was not as good as it was, and it died again less than a day. I even tried the Das BAMF kernels and they have similar results. I am also trying to switch between InteractiveX/SmartAss/OndemandX, but I am not seeing too much of a difference (unless someone can give hints on which is supposed to lend to a longer lasting battery). Any advice would be appreciated! (And if you need more specs on my phone, let me know... I generally only text, I do not play games or do very intensive internet things).
I have found the best battery life on bamf stripped v1.1, I get better battery life on that than any other Rom I've tried including stripped v1.7 and all the other bamf versions. I'm running the 4.4.6 kernel, I haven't tried the batt saver kernel from Imoseyon yet. I get 2-3x's the battery life as stock and almost twice the battery life as any other bamf Rom
There are lots of things to consider about your battery life. If you look at your batter use on your phone does it show anything that might be suspiciously draining battery more than normal? If you're using Imo's kernel you can type "12" into the terminal when you are changing governors to see the stats of how long your phone is staying at different frequencies, does it show a high amount of time spent at the higher frequencies? How long does your phones display stay on for?
There are so many things that can drain the battery its ridiculous and randomly I will have severe drains at times that are only solved by a reboot.
eraursls1984, do you have an extended battery? How much battery life are you getting?
Beastclaw, battery use seems normal - nothing out of the ordinary or suspicious is really eating at my battery. As I said before, I am currently running InteractiveX and at Extreme mode, and these are my states at different frequencies:
245760: 2102206
368640: 409810
768000: 58113
1024000: 263351
1222400: 12737
1408000: 72575
1593600: 0
1766400: 0
1920000: 0
Seems that nothing is really running too much on high frequencies, mainly on the lower end. My phone display is supposed to stay on for, I believe, 2 minutes, but whenever I am doing using it, I always lock it.
I heard Autostarts was a good app that could help with battery life and performance (and I was warned to not change any system settings), but I am trying to see if maybe there is anything else I can do to figure out why my battery seems to not last as long as other batteries.
You can try using an app from the market called "CurrentWidget" It allows you to log how much power your phone is using at different intervals of time. My phone generally runs at 40-60mA when the screen is off and its not doing anything and between 400-600mA when the screen is on and I am running tasks. You can use the log to check to make sure your phone isnt drawing too much power in the down state. It even shows you the stats in a nifty little graph form
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eraursls1984, do you have an extended battery? How much battery life are you getting?.
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I have a stock battery and with normal use I get 12-14 hours compared to about 4 when I was completely stock. When I use my phone heavily, constant browsing, I get about 4 hours compared to less than 2 stock. I always have my brightness all the way up except for when I'm in bed because this screen is not bright at all compared to my old phones. Unless you just have to have sense (which to me makes no sense, lol) then I would recommend trying bamf stripped v1.1. I am also not overclocked, I noticed a little increase in performance but not enough to justify the loss of some battery life., however I was going to experiment with it again since I haven't tested the performance and battery life of stripped v1.1 overclocked.
I mean, I have BAMF Remix 1.6.3, which I guess has Sense elements since I do not have BAMF Stripped? I mean, I do not think I use any Sense features or anything like that, so I have no reason not to get BAMF Stripped if it helps increase performance/battery life. Yeah, on Remix 1.6.3 and Imo's kernel at Normal, I had 12 hours on my extended battery... Haha.
Bump - does anyone have Autostarts? Or any other program/app that will help with the battery life, or any other suggestions? I will test the CurrentWidget app tomorrow when I am actually up and using my phone and see if I get similar results or if I find another program is using up my memory... I also recently installed Advanced Task Killer today to help with this battery problem, but I heard mixed things about using it and how it can actually negatively impact the phone instead of helping.
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Bump - does anyone have Autostarts? Or any other program/app that will help with the battery life, or any other suggestions? I will test the CurrentWidget app tomorrow when I am actually up and using my phone and see if I get similar results or if I find another program is using up my memory... I also recently installed Advanced Task Killer today to help with this battery problem, but I heard mixed things about using it and how it can actually negatively impact the phone instead of helping.
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Before 2.2 they were useful on some phones if used right, but its not needed nor does it work on the thunderbolt. If its set to autokill then it will drain the battery faster by running and killing apps, then the phone using juice to reopen the apps that were killed. If you root you can use autokiller (not a task killer) to set parameters for ram memory but I haven't found it to be necessary on the t-bolt, it was needed on my old droid X to keep it from lagging. I would suggest uninstalling the task killer.
Took your advice and uninstalled the task killer - thanks! Anyone else have any other suggestions or advice about my battery problem?
Autostarts is definitely worth $1. If you are familiar with Windows, it's kinda like msconfig for android. It prevents nonessential apps from starting in the background and wasting battery & network bandwidth. If you want to do everything you possibly can to minimize resource hogging, you should get Autostarts.
I downloaded Autostarts - I hate to be asking this sort of question but I am sort of cautious when changing these sorts of settings (because I heard a person who had to boot into recovery because he shut off system applications by accident), which programs should/shouldn't I turn off? I am a little confused how to use this program - did it automatically shut off some programs, because as I look through I see some programs are crossed off in a green line... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Bump - can anyone help me with Autostarts? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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Sigh, Autostarts isn't a "task killer"
I stay away from any proccess that's needed to run in the background. Things in yellow, leave alone. IMO pandora has no business running in the background at start up. If there's no valid reason, I kill it.
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I realize Autostarts isn't a task killer (it cannot kill a task if it never opens up, hehe). Thanks for your advice though! The more I was looking at it last night, the more I was understanding, but you just reassured what I was assuming. Hopefully this helps my battery a bit... Or I figure what else makes my extended battery drain faster than others.
Even with Autostarts, my battery life has not improved that much... I have been experimenting a bit with different governors and settings, but now I am back with the extreme Imo kernel and on InteractiveX. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Any help would be appreciated!
I was having trouble with my battery also. I've been lucky with Gingeritis but still the battery was killing me. This may not be an option but the extended battery is amazing. I got the case to go with it and I'm not disapointed. This OS with heavy use also and display at 50% and all animations enabled. Also running 4g all day!
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The problem is, I DO have the extended battery and now seeing some of the battery life that others are getting (a lot say 30+ hours, I am barely pushing my phone and I am getting less than 20 at a time).
BAMF 3 RC2, imo 3.3.4, 245/1593, LTE Only mode, auto brightness, twitter sync every 15 minutes, facebook every hour, gmail push, weather every hour, 4 hours of music streaming, another couple of playing, a lot of twitter and facebook, and doing a bunch of other things with the phone, and I rebooted about 3 times. I think I could hit 50+ hours if i didn't OC or reboot.
Oh yeah, I have the extended battery
g00s3y, which governor are you using?
i'm on the same kernel, but using gingerremix w/ a std battery. the phone drains 40% overnight with it being on wifi. (that's with just gmail pushing and gtalk on).
Has anyone else had battery drain issues with the Eclipse ROM on the Verizon Galaxy S4? I just came from an S3 on CyanogenMod I'd been using for a little over a year and I could still make it a whole day without having to charge it, but it seems like I can only make it half a day on the S4 before the battery gets low. So far I've:
-Used Titanium Backup to remove all bloatware listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797600
-Minimized screen brightness as much as possible
-Turned off all unnecessary functions (Gestures, AirView, etc)
-Turned on Power Saving Mode
-Replaced the original (used) Samsung battery with a brand new OEM battery (with no positive change in battery life)
I mostly use the device for email, web browsing, etc. and still find the battery draining faster than I think it should be (about 10% every 15-20 minutes during use). I do have Avast Antivirus and My Data Manager running, but they only contribute to about 2-3% of total battery usage. The display, on the other hand, is responsible for anywhere between 30-50% of the total battery usage. (I can post screenshots of my device's battery usage later, if necessary).
The S4 is on the NC5 bootloader (thus I used the Safestrap method to install Eclipse), if that makes a difference.
Im on eclipse nc5 and i actually get great battery thanks to xposed and greenify. Go install greenify, And grant it root access. Then any apps you dont need notifications immediately, select them to hibernate so they dont use as much battery. That should help, and with brightness. Use lux lite. It can make your screen as bright as 100% or as dark as -80%. I change it depending on my lighting, and it seems to work fine.
When you say you get great battery life, just how much are you getting out of it? I've got greenify installed, hibernated all apps I don't need notifications for, etc and I still average only about 4-5 hours of battery life. Surely the screen alone can't be draining the battery THAT fast?
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When you say you get great battery life, just how much are you getting out of it? I've got greenify installed, hibernated all apps I don't need notifications for, etc and I still average only about 4-5 hours of battery life. Surely the screen alone can't be draining the battery THAT fast?
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You may have wake lock issues with some of your apps Android Basics 101: Understanding Wakelocks: http://youtu.be/fG8tghj0AYM that is a very good and short video explaining what exactly a wake lock is and there is a good X posed module that will help you manage them.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
I'm no pro or anything but I do know that eclipse should definitely last at least a day. If greenify or freezing busy apps isn't doing it, then you have some other problem. If I were you, I would reinstall the eclipse rom, check the md5, and reflash it. Even preferably, I would do a clean restore of the s4... This is a ton of work but that means that anything wrong will be fixed, its the solve all solution.
*assuming you're not streaming videos constantly off 4g while running your gps in the background and having 10 emails pushing in a hot car . then u might have some bad battery life, just maybe.
I have basically the same setup, but I use One Power Guard as well. I also used Titanium Backup to freeze anything to do with Google since I use Aqua Mail and CalenGoo, neither of which need Google services. Mostly email, phone and texting. Probably much less use than you, but I get two days easy, One day I'll have to use just the phone for a day and see what happens.
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I'm no pro or anything but I do know that eclipse should definitely last at least a day. If greenify or freezing busy apps isn't doing it, then you have some other problem. If I were you, I would reinstall the eclipse rom, check the md5, and reflash it. Even preferably, I would do a clean restore of the s4... This is a ton of work but that means that anything wrong will be fixed, its the solve all solution.
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Sorry for the late reply, but I finally got around to doing a clean restore of the S4 followed by a reinstall of the eclipse rom (including redownloading the rom and checking the md5). A few days later and my device's battery life is still terrible. I know there's always the possibility that the brand new OEM battery I purchased a month or two ago could be a dud (I did buy it off eBay, knowing full well the risk I was taking). Any suggestions on where I could get a good battery for a reasonable price? Or can anyone think of anything else that might be draining the battery so fast?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I finally got around to doing a clean restore of the S4 followed by a reinstall of the eclipse rom (including redownloading the rom and checking the md5). A few days later and my device's battery life is still terrible. I know there's always the possibility that the brand new OEM battery I purchased a month or two ago could be a dud (I did buy it off eBay, knowing full well the risk I was taking). Any suggestions on where I could get a good battery for a reasonable price? Or can anyone think of anything else that might be draining the battery so fast?
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Buy an Anker or Zerolemon! Both are great.
Download wakelock detector or better battery stats to check what apps are using your battery.
it seems that samsung firmware is becoming worse and worse. I have a 75000mAh extended battery and it would last me about 3 days with the MK software. i updated to the NC5 one, and batteyr life took a dump at most a day with the same usage. I dont even dare to put the original battery as it lasts me 5 hours. I though it was the battery so i replaced it, but same thing. I am now on NG6 and not much improvment. Besides the screen, ANDROID SYSTEM and ANDROID OS are using the most battery resources. WTF are these damn things? what is the difference between SYSTEM and OS. To me they should be the same. Has anyone noticed this, or is there something that I can do to improve it? thanks.
If you select them, they will display what is included in those packages.
Android System and Android OS are NOT the same. Not at all.
since my last full battery recharge, android os has used 64% of my battery, screen 9% android system 7%. this is ridiculous that the OS is using that much battery. forget about what people are saying that screen consume the battery is the damn android or whatever verizon is putting into it
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since my last full battery recharge, android os has used 64% of my battery, screen 9% android system 7%. this is ridiculous that the OS is using that much battery. forget about what people are saying that screen consume the battery is the damn android or whatever verizon is putting into it
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That is not normal...sounds like you have some type of wake lock or some background app that isn't shutting off. I cant remember off the top of my head but I think theres an app called better battery stats or somethung like that and it hwlps you track down what specifically is draing you battery...as in what specific part of the android os.
usually a reboot will fix these issues, however if that fails then I would look Into the better battery stats...and then a full factory reset/or odin if possible
Too bad that those apps require root to work in kitkat due to google's change in permissions. This sucks.
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it seems that samsung firmware is becoming worse and worse. I have a 75000mAh extended battery and it would last me about 3 days with the MK software. i updated to the NC5 one, and batteyr life took a dump at most a day with the same usage. I dont even dare to put the original battery as it lasts me 5 hours. I though it was the battery so i replaced it, but same thing. I am now on NG6 and not much improvment. Besides the screen, ANDROID SYSTEM and ANDROID OS are using the most battery resources. WTF are these damn things? what is the difference between SYSTEM and OS. To me they should be the same. Has anyone noticed this, or is there something that I can do to improve it? thanks.
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I had the same issue. My battery used to last me about 17 hours (two work shifts). After some updates it would be at about 5% after an 8 hours shift. I replaced the battery thinking it would help but it made no difference. I finally got fed up enough and installed Safestrap and the Hyperdrive Rom. The difference is night and day. After one shift my battery has been 50% - %70 depending on my usage. Not being familiar with Safestrap it took a little work, but it was well worth it.
As indicated above, most battery life issues are caused by apps failing to allow the phone to sleep properly.
Get better battery stats, root your phone, and allow it to run for a at least half a day. Wake lock detector works well too, also requires root.
Google location services is a big culprit of background activity.
Tracking down the actual causes takes time, lots of it.
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I got replacement phone with NG6 already on it. The battery life sucks. For some reason when it goes sleep, sometimes the battery will go up a 1 or 2% , have No idea how it's doing it
I was thinking about moving over to a G3.
But from the reviews the battary life seems to be horrible on the phone.
Has that improved with the lollipop update? Or still about the same?
Thanks
I have zero issues with battery. Rooted and removed bloat and get all day into the next. Also I love greenify, with nova and a gesture to double tap to sleep and hibernate apps I get sick battery life.
Depending on lollipop. Running unofficial lollipop ive experienced between 5-7 hours of SOT. I've gotten up to 9 hours SOT on kitkat with battery saver apps. Try it out for a few days and see how it goes. Every phone doesn't respond to the same changes.
I've been absolutely impressed with the battery life in this device. Every once in a while, I'll have a day where it seems to drain faster than normal, but I'm sure it's a rogue app syncing. I get about 3.5hrs screen on time, and 17hrs off charger. Average. And it sleeps really well. When not in use, virtually no power drain. All of this is on custom ROMs. Can't speak to stock ROM, never ran it. Closest I've come is modified stock with root and with bloat removed.
Running stock lollipop now. The battery isn't anything special but its not horrible either. The standby time is very good.
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Hello guys,
My question is which ROM seem to be best for you in battery life? Im talking about my R3Pro(ido) device. I've been using xiaomi.eu's stables from beginning which has great 8h SOT, but now experiencing like 3h SOT with LineageOS 14 always updated with Xposed and all day data/WiFi on. Any ideas? Should I change back to MIUI?
Thanks
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May be you should buy a new battery?
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Hello guys,
My question is which ROM seem to be best for you in battery life? Im talking about my R3Pro(ido) device. I've been using xiaomi.eu's stables from beginning which has great 8h SOT, but now experiencing like 3h SOT with LineageOS 14 always updated with Xposed and all day data/WiFi on. Any ideas? Should I change back to MIUI?
Thanks
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U can try:RR,SudaMod,Lineage OS 15 Unofficial or PixelExperience 8.1.
The UNTEST-20171122 version of Resurrection Remix N has the best battery life for both screen on and off time, hands down. Was a lifesaver in a recent job where I listened to hours of podcasts per day to keep sane. Keep away from Oreo ROMs for the time being, theyre still largely broken apart from PixelExperience (which instead has the fun problem of ridiculously fast battery drain.)
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The UNTEST-20171122 version of Resurrection Remix N has the best battery life for both screen on and off time, hands down. Was a lifesaver in a recent job where I listened to hours of podcasts per day to keep sane. Keep away from Oreo ROMs for the time being, theyre still largely broken apart from PixelExperience (which instead has the fun problem of ridiculously fast battery drain.)
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I've installed this version you're talking about on my friend's phone and he cannot go over 3 hours of SOT, he must charge the phone before going to bed.. did you install some kernel too or anything else?
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I've installed this version you're talking about on my friend's phone and he cannot go over 3 hours of SOT, he must charge the phone before going to bed.. did you install some kernel too or anything else?
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No. The only things I flash on my device are the ROM, GApps and Magisk. The battery usage when the screen is off is the prizewinner here. It rarely goes down more than 2% after being left for more than 2 hours, which is ideal for me. Still though, I'm pretty sure I get more than 3 hours of screen on time. Learn to use some basic battery saving methods; turn the brightness to 50% or lower, turn off wifi or data when you're not using it...or better yet, learn to restrain your usage of it when out and about
When I go out, the phone is generally being used consistently all day via me using Bluetooth headphones along with some occasional use of 4G data. It usually never gets past the 40% mark by time I'm back home and I'm usually out for more than 5-6 hours per day. Honestly I'm not personally sure what the issue with having to charge it daily is...I've never had a phone which didn't require such a task, with the exception of things like the original Nokia 3310.
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No. The only things I flash on my device are the ROM, GApps and Magisk. The battery usage when the screen is off is the prizewinner here. It rarely goes down more than 2% after being left for more than 2 hours, which is ideal for me. Still though, I'm pretty sure I get more than 3 hours of screen on time. Learn to use some basic battery saving methods; turn the brightness to 50% or lower, turn off wifi or data when you're not using it...or better yet, learn to restrain your usage of it when out and about
When I go out, the phone is generally being used consistently all day via me using Bluetooth headphones along with some occasional use of 4G data. It usually never gets past the 40% mark by time I'm back home and I'm usually out for more than 5-6 hours per day. Honestly I'm not personally sure what the issue with having to charge it daily is...I've never had a phone which didn't require such a task, with the exception of things like the original Nokia 3310.
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I did the same on my friend's phone: Rom, gapps mini and Magisk. I can't tell you about his usage of the phone, but I've seen battery stats and it just can barely reach 3 hours of SOT, the usage is mostly of socials and music.. This rom here and latest LOS builds are just very battery draining, I don't know what to do with that phone! Anyway, thank you for the reply and the tips, I'll let him know!
What about MIUI? Maybe the EU version? Somedoby that tried that out can tell which will be the pros and the cons? Is it still on Lollipop?
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I did the same on my friend's phone: Rom, gapps mini and Magisk. I can't tell you about his usage of the phone, but I've seen battery stats and it just can barely reach 3 hours of SOT, the usage is mostly of socials and music.. This rom here and latest LOS builds are just very battery draining, I don't know what to do with that phone! Anyway, thank you for the reply and the tips, I'll let him know!
What about MIUI? Maybe the EU version? Somedoby that tried that out can tell which will be the pros and the cons? Is it still on Lollipop?
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Ahh, social media apps can very easily drain the battery from what I remember. The Facebook app is especially bad for it if I recall correctly. Perhaps grab a Wakelock detector app, see if anything is keeping the phone awake and then use Greenify to stop the apps from doing that.
With regards to MIUI, I seem to recall stock MIUI (from the official Xiaomi site) definitely having the best battery life out of every other rom I've used, with MIUI.eu not being as good but better than other custom roms. In terms of pros and cons, there isn't much. It works a little differently to regular Android so there's some bothering aspects to it (such as the Files/Documents app being disabled by default for some unexplained reason, meaning you have to re-enable it after every reboot.) And yes, It's still on Lollipop sadly, meaning apps like password managers etc can't use the fingerprint scanner.
Honestly I'd say wipe everything on the phone, clean flash RR-UNTEST and then slowly re-add all the apps and see if one in particular causes heavy battery drain.