[Q] Downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 - Samsung Galaxy Alpha

Hi Guys. Has anyone tried to downgrade their 5.0.2 to 4.4.4? I'm not too happy with Lollipop -- I prefer the darker UI of Kitkat, I also get less battery and some lags in Lollipop.
I've been seeing tutorials for S5 devices in downgrading to 4.4.4 using Direct Flash of Odin. Do you think this is safe? I'm concerned that it may brick the device since it may trigger Knox and other factors such as baseband, etc.
Please let me know your process if you have successfully done a downgrade using Alpha Carrier device. (I have an 850L)
Thank you in advance.

I have already done this twice but at 850f. Full wipe before and after flashing. Everything was ok without any problems (knox etc). Remember backing up!

Thanks!
How do i backup without a custom recovery?
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Manually with your pc (photos, music etc) or by using kies

It worked. Thanks a lot! Am so glad to be back to kitkat!

I believe this will not work on AT&T phone.
I am still on KK.

Done also mine and rooted, remove sms limit

Cross flash 100% successful
SM-G850F rom with SM-G850L kernel and Modem

exaflare said:
Cross flash 100% successful
SM-G850F rom with SM-G850L kernel and Modem
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Nice. Do you have a link on how you flashed it? Is it straight flash using odin?
How is the performance, did it improve without all the korean bloatware?
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mykeldg said:
Nice. Do you have a link on how you flashed it? Is it straight flash using odin?
How is the performance, did it improve without all the korean bloatware?
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Nope, I flashed it thru twrp its a custom rom actually
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/development/rom-spacex-rom-stable-t2986310
Debloated no korean apps, no Korean language.
I just follow my instict and it works
Before I have an experience in flashing and converting korean to international rom from LG Optimus G and fortunately they almost the same.
As long as you have twrp recovery and back ups and still can boot up to download mode don't afraid to experiment, besides there'a Odin if your phone doesn't boot up

Alpha International Nicer on Kitkat with Dark Menus etc
suspected with Alpha 850M that upgrading to Lollipop would not be much of an upgrade- I like my dark menus and smooth performance.
I Android L improved Camera and enabled VoLTE ( once rumored probably not possible because Specific Carrier Software is still needed for VoLTE) would possibly make it worthwhile but Alpha was designed around 4.4 so performance less likely to be buggy IMO on Kitkat.
Also Samsung has a rule it seems that nothing beats the S series except the Note Series- so they intentionally dumbed down the S5 Sensor to 12 Megapixels and stuck it in Alpha.
With the Note 4 Camera and a slightly thicker design with 2600 Mah Battery and SD support- Alpha could have been a big international hit/ popular phone IMO.

pls help
pls help
after i updated it to lolipop and then downgraded to kitkat it bricked after that when i fixed it
it started to oveheating when im playing or watching videos and other...and im sure that it isnt batterys problem its CPU overheatingg

lashaofficial said:
pls help
after i updated it to lolipop and then downgraded to kitkat it bricked after that when i fixed it
it started to oveheating when im playing or watching videos and other...and im sure that it isnt batterys problem its CPU overheatingg
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Reflash with official stock rom from sammobile thru odin

bricked sm-a500fu after downgrade to KK
I had rooted my 4.4.4 with kingroot, changed to SuperSU with supersume and unrooted with SuperSU. Then Iwent back to stock (all official no Knox) with Odin (4.4.4 (A500FUXXU1AOB4_A500FUATO1AOB1_A500FUXXU1AOB4_HOME.tar.md5).
Then I went from stock to 5.0.2 (A500FUXXU1BOE6_A500FUATO1BOE1_A500FUXXU1BOE6_HOME.tar.md5) with Odin.
Actually after updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 (with odin) the phone converted a lot of apps during startup - Did this also take minutes for you guys ?
All fine and phone quite fast, but no chance to root with Kingroot.
So I wanted back to 4.4.4 I used Odin again and flashed the 4.4.4 as written above. And then: BRICK. Please tell me and others what I possibly did wrong:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3167400

gggg said:
I had rooted my 4.4.4 with kingroot, changed to SuperSU with supersume and unrooted with SuperSU. Then Iwent back to stock (all official no Knox) with Odin (4.4.4 (A500FUXXU1AOB4_A500FUATO1AOB1_A500FUXXU1AOB4_HOME.tar.md5).
Then I went from stock to 5.0.2 (A500FUXXU1BOE6_A500FUATO1BOE1_A500FUXXU1BOE6_HOME.tar.md5) with Odin.
Actually after updating from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 (with odin) the phone converted a lot of apps during startup - Did this also take minutes for you guys ?
All fine and phone quite fast, but no chance to root with Kingroot.
So I wanted back to 4.4.4 I used Odin again and flashed the 4.4.4 as written above. And then: BRICK. Please tell me and others what I possibly did wrong:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3167400
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You need to reformat via recovery.
Off your phone then press volume up + home button + power button to enter recovery.
Flashing thru odin wont format your data and thats the culprit those data from lollipop aren't compatible with kitkat

exaflare said:
You need to reformat via recovery. Off your phone then press volume up + home button + power button to enter recovery.
Flashing thru odin wont format your data and thats the culprit those data from lollipop aren't compatible with kitkat
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I was on stock LL ... I think stock recovery can only wipe data/factory ... does this reformat as well and if so, wouldnt it reformat it the way LL needs it to be (it doesnt know about my wish to odin KK afterwards
I thought this could only be done by custom recovery or a PIT in Odin ???

gggg said:
I was on stock LL ... I think stock recovery can only wipe data/factory ... does this reformat as well and if so, wouldnt it reformat it the way LL needs it to be (it doesnt know about my wish to odin KK afterwards
I thought this could only be done by custom recovery or a PIT in Odin ???
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Based on my experience downgrading from 5.0.2 to kitkat via odin without factory reset will cause boot loop, the only solution was to wipe data factory reset thru stock recovery.
I manage to root my galaxy alpha 5.0.2 via CF-auto root + kingroot.
Kingroot will serves as your superSU because the SU installed by cf-auto root wont run or give root access. Then install twrp recovery.
In twrp recovery we can wipe data, system, without wiping internal storage which contains our files.
Then after wiping.... reboot to download mode or reboot to switch off in twrp then enter download mode manually.
Then downgrade to kitkat, it wont cause boot loop because I already wiped the data from twrp.
Only downgrading from a different OS version needs factory reset.
Any same Kitkat but with different builds won't cause boot loop even downgrading or upgrading thru odin without the need of wiping data.

Hello, can anyone write down step-by-step how to downgrade to KitKat? I've just bought my Alpha and it came with Lollipop. I have a valid warranty, so I don't want to loose it.
Oh, and I don't have a Windows PC, so I think Odin isn't a solution in my case.

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[Q] Android Jelly Bean update

Hi Guys, I have looked high and low but cannot seem to find a definitive answer so to what to do.
Basically I have a Samsung S3 which about 5 months ago I rooted to enable me to use any network. Basically O2 who I used to have a contract with messed up somehow and on their records they could not find a IMEI number and so couldn't unlock, I was going round in circles and as I was moving abroad I had no other option.
Everything went fine and it is only now that I would like to update the OS to its latest version that when I go to the settings and update it says something about having a modified firmware (I think, another story altogether but I now broke the screen and so waiting for a replacement to fix it).
My questions are:
Will I ever be able to update normally via the settings menu again?
What is the latest stable Android update that I could use? KitKat?
Where is the best place to source the most recent Android distributions?
Basically I am just looking for a bit of advice on how to go about keeping my phone up to date with the latest features. I am not really interested in adding hacked functionality etc at this point.
Thanks
If you unlocked your phone using the 'free' methods then updating to the latest rom will return the network lock or corrupt your efs folder, depending on how the unlock was achieved.
You can't use ota updates as you've modified your phone.
Sammobile is where you obtain the latest rom.
Also, questions go the q&a forum and all the above information is posted many times.
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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bmouthboyo said:
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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As said, you wont get any updates via OTA if your phone is rooted,
Go to Sammobile.com, find the latest UK / Europe (BTU) generic rom it will be the version ending MJ9.
Download Odin and Guide here
Flash the rom using Odin, doing this will remove root access, once you have installed the rom, enter recovery mode and clear Cache / Dalvik Cache then factory reset (be aware this will wipe your phone and internal storage so copy any files to your PC first)
Boot the phone and set it up, then go to software updates on your phone and update the MJ9 version to MK6,
Now your phone will be fully stock and get OTA updates in the future plus you will have the generic UK and Europe firmware version (BTU) Android 4.3.
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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bmouthboyo said:
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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No wait for the next full build .
Read the faqs and guides as you wait .
Had a good read about, thanks for that.
Does anyone know or hazard a guess when next official jellybean release may be? Do they run on development cycles, or is this more an advice patch?
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
bmouthboyo said:
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
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Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
bmouthboyo said:
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Factory reset will not wipe the internal sd card. So if u back up whatsapp conversations without ext sd card, factory reset will not wipe it.
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ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
bmouthboyo said:
Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
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Yes, my phone was Stock o2 when I got it in May 2012, first thing I did was flash the Generic BTU firmware to get rid on o2 stuff, I have never had to do a Factory reset nor wipe Cache, Dalvik Cache on my phone, it has always been rooted and apart for the MJ9 issues that Samsung had late last year it has worked fine, no lag, no random reboots, no freezing.
If you don't root you will get OTA updates, if you root you wont but you can still use Kies or Sammobile to update to any latest version releases, the factory reset will wipe pictures, music and your app data from your internal storage so if you back them up to your PC before a Factory reset you can replace them afterwards, but if you have not had any custom roms on your phone the need for a factory reset would be highly unlikely.
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
bmouthboyo said:
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
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Choice on that is yours really.
Just because there is a higher number version doesn’t mean its an update from what you have unless it is based on the same version (eg BTU) if you have BTU MK6 and there was a BTU MK7 then that is an upgrade.
Where Isreal has MK7, India has ML4 this generally relates to how long and how many attempts they have in getting that country specific version ready for release, not an upgraded version of MK6.
You need to ensure that the rom you do install has multi CSC’s otherwise you could end up with no network signal or data.

SGH-M819N (Metro PCS) Mega update via Kies

I'm seeing an available firmware upgrade via kies (MK7).
I'm a little skeptical to try it. Has anyone else upgraded to this firmware?
If so, have you been able to root your mega and install a custom recovery after the upgrade?
I don't want to install this firmware upgrade only to find out that afterwards that knox is on it and prevents me from rooting the phone or unlocking the bootloader.
By the way, I tried downloading the firmware without my phone connected but kies keeps force closing on me before the download is complete.
I'm afraid to connect my phone and try the download because I think it will automatically install the upgrade which I don't want to do until I'm sure I can re-root it and re-install TWRP.
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Installed Update, Re-rooted, re-installed TWRP
curgervending said:
I'm seeing an available firmware upgrade via kies (MK7).
I'm a little skeptical to try it. Has anyone else upgraded to this firmware?
If so, have you been able to root your mega and install a custom recovery after the upgrade?
I don't want to install this firmware upgrade only to find out that afterwards that knox is on it and prevents me from rooting the phone or unlocking the bootloader.
By the way, I tried downloading the firmware without my phone connected but kies keeps force closing on me before the download is complete.
I'm afraid to connect my phone and try the download because I think it will automatically install the upgrade which I don't want to do until I'm sure I can re-root it and re-install TWRP.
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I bit the bullet and gave it a shot. I am happy to report that the firmware upgrade was successful using Kies, I was able to root the device via the Kingo Root app, and was able to re-install TWRP. I am now on firmware M819NUVUAMK7. It is still Android version 4.2.2, and the baseband is also M819NUVUAMK7. The kernel version is dated Fri Nov 22, 2013
I installed superSU and when I ran it, it asked me if I wanted to disable knox (YES OR NO). OF COURSE I DISABLED KNOX!!
I afterward performed a nandroid backup in TWRP (the first order of business).
I am more comfortable now deleting, freezing, uninstalling system apps now because (in the event of a softbrick or bootloop) I can always revert to my nandroid backup or in extreme cases, restart all over again by re-installing the firmware via Kies, re-rooting the device via the kingo root app, and reinstalling TWRP via ODIN.
Not sure what changed from the original firmware (no change log). In any event, the device is snappy and I'm not experiencing any lags.
curgervending said:
I bit the bullet and gave it a shot. I am happy to report that the firmware upgrade was successful using Kies, I was able to root the device via the Kingo Root app, and was able to re-install TWRP. I am now on firmware M819NUVUAMK7. It is still Android version 4.2.2, and the baseband is also M819NUVUAMK7. The kernel version is dated Fri Nov 22, 2013
I installed superSU and when I ran it, it asked me if I wanted to disable knox (YES OR NO). OF COURSE I DISABLED KNOX!!
I afterward performed a nandroid backup in TWRP (the first order of business).
I am more comfortable now deleting, freezing, uninstalling system apps now because (in the event of a softbrick or bootloop) I can always revert to my nandroid backup or in extreme cases, restart all over again by re-installing the firmware via Kies, re-rooting the device via the kingo root app, and reinstalling TWRP via ODIN.
Not sure what changed from the original firmware (no change log). In any event, the device is snappy and I'm not experiencing any lags.
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never mind I got it. I had a brain fart and was doing the process back words. I put it in download mode for the root.
hotspot mod
I am rooted with stock rom just looking for a hotspot mod for my sgh m819n been searching and searching
reesemtk60 said:
I am rooted with stock rom just looking for a hotspot mod for my sgh m819n been searching and searching
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as far as i know. there isn't a mod for Metro's phone. there are a few custom ROM's you can use that have free tethering built in. This one is the closest to stock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110
It works fine on my M819N :good:
Deodex or odex
thanks one more question how can i tell if my phone is deodex or odex
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thanks one more question how can i tell if my phone is deodex or odex
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well easiest way is. if its your stock ROM that came with the phone when you bought it. it is odex.
if you are rooted, you can use root explorer to go into your system/app file and see if it shows odex settings for apps
I did and had no problem rooting with kingo. What I cannot find is a way around sim lock without going through metro and that sucks.
curgervending said:
I'm seeing an available firmware upgrade via kies (MK7).
I'm a little skeptical to try it. Has anyone else upgraded to this firmware?
If so, have you been able to root your mega and install a custom recovery after the upgrade?
I don't want to install this firmware upgrade only to find out that afterwards that knox is on it and prevents me from rooting the phone or unlocking the bootloader.
By the way, I tried downloading the firmware without my phone connected but kies keeps force closing on me before the download is complete.
I'm afraid to connect my phone and try the download because I think it will automatically install the upgrade which I don't want to do until I'm sure I can re-root it and re-install TWRP.
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bnb25 said:
as far as i know. there isn't a mod for Metro's phone. there are a few custom ROM's you can use that have free tethering built in. This one is the closest to stock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110
It works fine on my M819N :good:
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is that rom odex of deodex because my is odex
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is that rom odex of deodex because my is odex
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deodex
curgervending said:
I bit the bullet and gave it a shot. I am happy to report that the firmware upgrade was successful using Kies, I was able to root the device via the Kingo Root app, and was able to re-install TWRP. I am now on firmware M819NUVUAMK7. It is still Android version 4.2.2, and the baseband is also M819NUVUAMK7. The kernel version is dated Fri Nov 22, 2013
I installed superSU and when I ran it, it asked me if I wanted to disable knox (YES OR NO). OF COURSE I DISABLED KNOX!!
I afterward performed a nandroid backup in TWRP (the first order of business).
I am more comfortable now deleting, freezing, uninstalling system apps now because (in the event of a softbrick or bootloop) I can always revert to my nandroid backup or in extreme cases, restart all over again by re-installing the firmware via Kies, re-rooting the device via the kingo root app, and reinstalling TWRP via ODIN.
Not sure what changed from the original firmware (no change log). In any event, the device is snappy and I'm not experiencing any lags.
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Almost had a heart attack from this upgrade. My phone was already rooted when I applied the update from Kies. Everything went through fine except when it restarted, I couldn't turn on Wifi at all and I was getting an E in the cell signal. I managed to download the TWRP tar file and Kingo app to root again. I was able to restore my previous backed up image and everything was when I last left it! WHEW!
That's strange. I had no problem. wifi worked and I haven't seen E at all (only 4g lte or 4g). My signal appears to be stronger and more stable with this update than with the original firmware (most of the time I have full bars). As mentioned I don't know what changes were made (no change log around) but this is my observation so far.
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Can somebody running MK7 please boot into download mode quickly to check whether this update has a new Knox bootloader?
(Vol - , Home, Power)
Need to know if the following strings are present or not:
KNOX KERNEL LOCK:
KNOX WARRANTY VOID:
BOOTLOADER RP SWREV:
Thanks in advance.
[QUOT1.0razykipa;50763526]Can somebody running MK7 please boot into download mode quickly to check whether this update has a new Knox bootloader?
(Vol - , Home, Power)
Need to know if the following strings are present or not:
KNOX KERNEL LOCK:
KNOX WARRANTY VOID:
BOOTLOADER RP SWREV:
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This string is present on my phone in download mode:
BOOTLOADER RP SWREV: 3
I have no lines displaying anything about KNOX.
In titanium backup I froze knox 1.0, knox notification manager 1.0, and knox store 1.0.
So it appears that knox is in the rom somewhere but it's had no impact on me. I'm rooted, have twrp installed and have flashed multiple custom roms on my device (both tw and aosp based roms).
Perfect, thanks! Glad you guys got spared from the horrid new Knox bootloaders. There's a small chance that the M819 can be downgraded to the older bootloader to remove Knox entirely, but if the update came with the newest bootloader (I got stuck with it on my i527M) there is no hope at all of downgrading.
Thanks to whoever posted this and the creator of this rom
bnb25 said:
as far as i know. there isn't a mod for Metro's phone. there are a few custom ROM's you can use that have free tethering built in. This one is the closest to stock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110
It works fine on my M819N :good:
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I have the sgh-m819n metro pcs model running the mk7 firmware. This was the only rom that worked 100% for me. Im running twrp recovery,super user and free hotspot. Not to mention all the extra cool apps that it comes with. Big props to the developers of this software may your days be blessed with many more hacks.
Must be unrooted to perform update thru kies without errors..
Galaxy Mega 6.3 On Liquidsmooth rom posted this
question to everyone....
ok not sure if am in the right area to post this but. I have a metro galaxy mega 6.3 (sgh m819n) successfully rooted with kingo. what im trying to find is how to put a custom recovery like twrp and how to do it like step by step. help would be greatly appreciated. or to point me in the right direction. thanks guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110 this is a great rom for our mega(metropcs) imho. now in order to install CWM or TWRP you simply need to download the version thats for meliusltexx which is for the i9205 version of the mega.. These Roms and procedures are compatable with the M819n(metropcs) mega
thanksss
[email protected] said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110 this is a great rom for our mega(metropcs) imho. now in order to install CWM or TWRP you simply need to download the version thats for meliusltexx which is for the i9205 version of the mega.. These Roms and procedures are compatable with the M819n(metropcs) mega
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ok thanks and this will work correct.... also before I add a new rom on the m819n I have another question... I used to get 4LTE every where and now I get only 4G or edge after rooting with stock rom. signal apps dont do crap. is there a way to fix this... I miss my LTE data speeds. if you know how to fix or anything please point me in the right direction thanks.

How do I update software on a rooted Note 3?

I have a rooted Sprint Samsung Galaxy note 3.
my current Android version is : 4.3
Build number: JSS15J.N900PVPUBMJ4
I received a notification for an update but since my device is rooted, I can't do OTA updates.
so my questions are; Is it worth going through the trouble of updating, and if so, how do I go about doing it???
And as always, thank a lot guys, for your help.
likeminas said:
I have a rooted Sprint Samsung Galaxy note 3.
my current Android version is : 4.3
Build number: JSS15J.N900PVPUBMJ4
I received a notification for an update but since my device is rooted, I can't do OTA updates.
so my questions are; Is it worth going through the trouble of updating, and if so, how do I go about doing it???
And as always, thank a lot guys, for your help.
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Since you are rooted, you can just goto the Android development forum and use rwilco's one step to go back completely stock and then take the ota (may or may not work to get the ota) or just goto the Android development forum and use one of the methods there to upgrade to KK.
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likeminas said:
I have a rooted Sprint Samsung Galaxy note 3.
my current Android version is : 4.3
Build number: JSS15J.N900PVPUBMJ4
I received a notification for an update but since my device is rooted, I can't do OTA updates.
so my questions are; Is it worth going through the trouble of updating, and if so, how do I go about doing it???
And as always, thank a lot guys, for your help.
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1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657828
2. Flash this next via Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469904 this will root your device
3. Then either (philz) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 or (twrp) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471564
4. Flash your rom of choice or run stock
MrWicked1 said:
1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657828
2. Flash this next via Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469904 this will root your device
3. Then either (philz) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 or (twrp) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471564
4. Flash your rom of choice or run stock
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thanks for this. fixed my problem
MrWicked1 said:
1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657828
2. Flash this next via Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469904 this will root your device
3. Then either (philz) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 or (twrp) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471564
4. Flash your rom of choice or run stock
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Thanks, I rooted my friend's N3 and now he wants to update to kk.
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I read that rooting a phone changes the KNOX counter and, after unrooting, the KNOX counter remains changed so that updates are not possible OTA. Unfortunately, I cannot post the link but it is on the galaxynote3root.com website.
Would someone care to comment on this, please?
My Note3 is rooted at the moment and, before unrooting to update, I would like to know whether after unrooting, the update problem still exists or not
Hope you understand and someone can help. Thanks.
apex2000 said:
I read that rooting a phone changes the KNOX counter and, after unrooting, the KNOX counter remains changed so that updates are not possible OTA. Unfortunately, I cannot post the link but it is on the galaxynote3root.com website.
Would someone care to comment on this, please?
My Note3 is rooted at the moment and, before unrooting to update, I would like to know whether after unrooting, the update problem still exists or not
Hope you understand and someone can help. Thanks.
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Just flash back to stock using Odin then reboot into stock recovery and wipe data .... you will need to have your SD card removed for it to work also .... you may then have to reflash the Odin rom again and you will have official status and be able to accept ota or just use the nc5 Odin tar and you are good
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The KNOX counter has nothing to do with it ... it's the official status
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Epix4G said:
Just flash back to stock using Odin then reboot into stock recovery and wipe data .... you will need to have your SD card removed for it to work also .... you may then have to reflash the Odin rom again and you will have official status and be able to accept ota or just use the nc5 Odin tar and you are good
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The KNOX counter has nothing to do with it ... it's the official status
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Thanks very much for your answer. Please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject.
I guess that I can flash back to stock using Odin quite easily, but how do I "reboot into stock recovery and wipe data"?
And, what is "the nc5 Odin tar"?
This is the latest ota nc5 .... it has directions in the op for using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205
After flashing this volume up home key and power from the off position will get you into stock recovery
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updating without unrooting?
Sorry if the answer is here, but I can't seem to find it. I want to be able to record conversations on my phone, but can't because it was Android 4.4.when I rooted. I absolutely do not want to unroot. So, my question is, can I update without unrooting and if so, how do I do it?
Steve01351 said:
Sorry if the answer is here, but I can't seem to find it. I want to be able to record conversations on my phone, but can't because it was Android 4.4.when I rooted. I absolutely do not want to unroot. So, my question is, can I update without unrooting and if so, how do I do it?
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No you have to be unrooted to take an OTA update. But there are other options. First what version of KitKat are you on ? If you are on say 4.4.2 NC5 and you want to get to 4.4.4 NH7 or 4.4.4 NK4, you can unroot your device and take the OTA. Or you can flash a complete new version of KitKat 4.4.4 with odin, and then root your device again.
However, if you are rooted on 4.4.2 NC5 with TowelRoot, and no custom recovery installed. Chances are you have not tripped KNOX yet. So, if you update to 4.4.4 NH7 or NK4 or install a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM you will trip KNOX. Here is my thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/samsung-note-3-rom-flashin-basics-t2896440 .
As for recording conversations have you checked the play store for an app here is a link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.killermobile.totalrecall&hl=en Enjoy !!!
Many thanks. All I really wanted was to be able to record conversations. I tried 4 of the apps listed in the Play store. 2 of them recorded just my side of a conversation with blanks where the other side should be - and the other 2 just recorded static. Total Recall works like a charm though. Thanks again.
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MrWicked1 said:
1. Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657828
2. Flash this next via Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469904 this will root your device
3. Then either (philz) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 or (twrp) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471564
4. Flash your rom of choice or run stock
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I'm in the same boat, I've got an app I need to run, but can't due to the version difference. I used Odin with one click flash (no data loss) to root. Awesome because I didn't loose any apps or any data whatsoever. My question is this, being I'm already rooted with MJ4 by TWRP. Is there a way to upgrade without losing my data (apps , contacts or any sort of complete reset that loses everything) or having to unroot?
My apologies on not knowing this well enough, can I flash the newer version as it is, or will that cause an issue? I'm not even sure what version we're currently on.
Thank you for your work and all that has gone into creating these tools and available sources for us to work on our phones.
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Any thoughts?

SAFE Updating - Upgrading - Downgrading - Custom ROM Flashing to 5.01 Lollipop OC1

SAFE UP/DOWN GRADING THE EZ WAY
this is a continuation of my SAFE UP/DOWN GRADING TO 4.4.2 thread where I developed a few safe ways to upgrade/update/downgrade to various versions of 4.4. This thread will be aimed at Lollipop. I apologize for the wait I had this ready on the 29th but muniz beat me to the punch while I was still uploading by releasing his odex'd stock OC1 which apparently had broken wifi but is now fixed. however our methods are different and my method will allow you to very quickly upgrade to a Custom ROM 5.0 or fully downgrade back to 4.4.2 NK1-NC2.
Please Note for now I recommend not using Flashfire but if all else fails when attempting this method keep in mind you can use it as an alternative until you can get Safestrap installed again. Flashfire will let you use only your Android to upgrade nothing more is required which can be nice/necessary for those without PC available or a broken USB port.
Pre-Installation Requirements:
You'll need a PC with Windows, OSX or Linux unless opting to upgrade using Flashfire in which case just a phone and the app is required.
Download my UP/DOWN Grading Packa .rar which you unpack includes 4 tars for flashing in Odin
Download Odin 3.10.6 for Windows or dl JOdin if your using OSX or Linux
A Custom ROM or a Prerooted Stock ROM (I'm uploading a Deodex'd debloated stock ROM shortly otherwise you can use muniz's stock release too)
Newest Safestrap 3.75 A03, Towelroot v3+, SuperSU and Busybox apk files are handy to have available on SD CARD I've uploaded a zip containing these here.
If downgrading you'll need a custom ROM (like Echoe v49 VZW for 5.0) for that firmware or an Odin Stock image.
We'll basically be using the same workaround for safestrap that I had used pre 4.4.2 safestrap only in 5.0 and this time were going down to 4.4.2 instead of 4.3. That is in condensed form: were downgrading to 4.4.2 boot.img in order to use Safestrap then modifying ROM or installing a new ROM on Stock Slot then reupgrading boot.img to 5.0!
Steps to Upgrade from 4.4.2 Rooted with Safestrap:
1. Connect phone to PC. Open Odin on PC and boot phone into Safestrap.
2. Load CustomROM_Upgrade_Lollipop_VZW_wNK4-NoSys-gogolie.tar into Odin AP slot on PC. On your Phone in Safestrap install 5.01 TW ROM.
3. Restart Phone to Download Mode when installation of ROM is finished.
4. Now On PC press flash and flash the tar to phone.
5. Your Done. Odin will restart the phone and you'll have to skip through 3-4 Boot Screens for Safestrap before ROM will load. To avoid having to skip these screens after 1st boot install Safestrap and Busybox on phone. Open SS and Uninstall Recovery. Then the phone will boot into ROM without hesitation. However I wouldn't recommend this personally as you'll need SS installed and ready in order to modify the ROM in Safestrap.
From 5.0: Modify ROM / Install different ROM / Downgrading back to 4.4.2
1. Connect phone to PC. Open Odin on PC and in Safestrap's App press Reboot to Recovery only hold down Vol Down. This will bring phone into Download Mode 1st.
2. Load Custom_ROM_Downgrade_Lollipop_VZW_wNK4_Boot-only-gogolie.tar into Odin AP slot on PC and Press Flash.
3. Phone will restart to Safestrap if it doesn't it will display boot option for Safestrap which you should enter the recovery.
4. Now in Safestrap you're able to modify the currently installed 5.01 ROM or install a new ROM for either 5.0 or 4.4.2.
5. After install / modification you'll need to reupgrade if intending on running a 5.0 ROM or finish downgrading if youre reverting to a 4.4.2 ROM. Which means restart phone to Download Mode!
6. Back on your PC load Custom_ROM_Re-Upgrade_Lollipop_VZW_wNK4_Boot-only-gogolie.tar into AP Slot to reupgrade to 5.0 or load Custom_ROM_Re-Upgrade_Lollipop_VZW_wNK4_no-BL-gogolie.tar if you think you possibly need to rewrite the recovery-kernel-modem-etc to 5.0 otherwise VZW-I545VRUFNC2_FULL4.42-ODIN_UPGRADE-NO-PARTITIONS_989434_REV06_user_low_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.tar.md5 or I545VRUFNK1_ALL_UPGRADES_W_NO_SYSTEM-CACHE-USER-PARTITIONS.taror similar modified Odin package can be flashed in Odin to finish Downgrading to any 4.4.2 Firmware.
7. There is no step 7, you were done at 6!
Good day!
- gogolie
v1-4-29-15
Please thank the OP if you're inclined.
Ask questions in thread those not answered can be assumed have been before and your just too lazy to search before asking which mean's I'll be to lazy to answer / search for you!
special thanks: dgutierrez04 for capture OTAs
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as always,
enjoy
So @gigilie, I've already installed using @muniz_ri 's method and used FlashFire. Can I now install Safestrap and use it to install your rom for testing? (Omega v41 VZW)
Thanks gigilie, your method worked for me. I installed OC1 to my stock rom slot in Safestrap, and to be clear... Safestrap does not function after updating the rom. I expected that. Maybe soon we will have Safestrap back, or something like it.
However, I'm noticing after install that I have only 2 GB free out of 16 GB device memory. So I suspect that my former Slot 1 rom is still present and eating up lots of space. Any suggestions on how to reclaim the rom slot storage?
PMac10000 said:
Thanks gigilie, your method worked for me. I installed OC1 to my stock rom slot in Safestrap, and to be clear... Safestrap does not function after updating the rom. I expected that. Maybe soon we will have Safestrap back, or something like it.
However, I'm noticing after install that I have only 2 GB free out of 16 GB device memory. So I suspect that my former Slot 1 rom is still present and eating up lots of space. Any suggestions on how to reclaim the rom slot storage?
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your former Slotted ROM is probably still intact and accessible. if you flash my downgrade pack in odin and restart you'll be able to access Safestrap. There you can either try and boot into the slot rom, delete the ROM or Modify any ROM you have installed on the Stock slot. Yes even 5.0 ROMs
rp1226 said:
So @gigilie, I've already installed using @muniz_ri 's method and used FlashFire. Can I now install Safestrap and use it to install your rom for testing? (Omega v41 VZW)
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if your on stock u should be able to install su, busybox and then safestrap. reboot to safestrap but while the phone is restarting hold vol down and boot into download mode. flash the downgrade pack in the OP of my Safe UP and Down thread for 5.0 then install ROM.... I'd try Echoe v49 VZW posted in the Development section first as I know the ROM works flawlessly with this method then explore other custom ROM options after that!
Can I use this method from 4.2.2
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iansamz said:
Can I use this method from 4.2.2
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no sorry. what BL are you currently on i'll give you proper instructions
I don't know what BL means ...sorry am a newbie
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iansamz said:
I don't know what BL means ...sorry am a newbie
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BL is your bootloader
I've got Echoe Rom v49 installed via this method. Very nice so far... one exception: all outgoing SMS fails. Tried pulling battery/SIM/SD, many restarts, and safe mode. None of these fixed outgoing SMS.
First outgoing SMS after a restart takes about a minute to try... then fails. Subsequent outgoing SMS messages fail immediately. I can make calls and receive SMS, however. Any ideas?
Also, tried your suggestion to access Safestrap by downgrading with Odin using "Custom_ROM_Downgrade_NC5Lollipop_VZW_wNK4_Boot-only-gogolie.tar" in AP. This resulted in a bootloop. I got back up again by flashing "Custom_ROM_Re-Upgrade_Lollipop_VZW_wNK4_Boot-only-gogolie.tar"
Thanks
My outgoing sms is not working either. Able to receive sms and mms.
I can get into safestrap no problem.
So if I took the new OTA update to lollipop, can I use this to downgrade then root and update again with the root?
thank you!
For SMS, change the "SecMMs_Candy" and "SecTelephonyProvider_Candy" in /system/priv-app with correct permission.
Copy these 2 files from any known good VZW ROM.
For me, any international ROMI used had this issue and that's how I got the SMS and MMS to work.
meazz1 said:
For SMS, change the "SecMMs_Candy" and "SecTelephonyProvider_Candy" in /system/priv-app with correct permission.
Copy these 2 files from any known good VZW ROM.
For me, any international ROMI used had this issue and that's how I got the SMS and MMS to work.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Couldn't find them in hyperdrive or kitpop. Muniz_ri's stock rooted oc1 didn't have a system folder to explore when I unzipped it. Grabbed them from a lollipop ROM in the s5 forum, replaced the respective files, and set permissions. After, messaging app wouldn't open.
If you took the OTA, then no way to do it. Sorry. Don't take the OTA.
notonmdk said:
Thanks for the feedback.
Couldn't find them in hyperdrive or kitpop. Muniz_ri's stock rooted oc1 didn't have a system folder to explore when I unzipped it. Grabbed them from a lollipop ROM in the s5 forum, replaced the respective files, and set permissions. After, messaging app wouldn't open.
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Try wiping the cache for message in application manager and reboot.
Should I uninstall my Xposed Framework and all the modules before updating? And why should I not use the FlashFire method?
meazz1 said:
Try wiping the cache for message in application manager and reboot.
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Didn't change anything for me.
In addition to the outgoing SMS problem, I'm noticing my phone running hot with Echoe rom v49... battery life is about half what it was before. Exchange service seems to be a big culprit.
So from what I am reading, this is aimed at those who took the 5.0 OTA correct?

[Q] Root for SM-G900T 5.1.1?

Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
I am need also root
karneychen said:
Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
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eli7897 said:
I am need also root
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Hurry up and wait
Any official word on if someone is actively working on trying to get root working?
.Root 5.1.1 T- mob S5???
[I would be pretty pleased if someone could help us out with thisQUOTE=karneychen;61618862]Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to give it another month and if no root method is out for 5.1.1, gonna have to revert to 5.0 since I can't get the debloater for OF6 to work. The forum here seems so inactive, makes me wonder if anyone is even working on a root method.
Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
Truth6199 said:
Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
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When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
MortTheBeast said:
When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
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I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
Truth6199 said:
I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
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I don't want to say for sure it's 100% possible as I am no expert and haven't done my research. I know some OS's don't allow for downgrading and not sure if this is one of them. I just made an assumption that if advance wipe takes out the entire OS... then why wouldn't it be possible. I could be wrong though and haven't tried yet... wanted to wait a month and see if there is any progress on root for 5.1.1. If you find out anything let me know if you don't mind.. or if someone else with more experience in these matters could comment, that would be helpful.
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
esjames said:
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
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Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
MortTheBeast said:
Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
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I was on 5.1.1, didnt like it and did odin back to 5.0 with no issues.
Same problem with OTA 5.1.1
Same problem with Samsung s5 T Mobile after the upgrade. SOOOOOO Lagggggy. T Mobile support told me to remove SD card, that seems to work, but I need the sd card... so I format it and put it back again and guess what.... it is lagy again. I also reset twice the phone and the same thing... So I think we are stuck, I can not root it, can not downgrade, can not use the phone!
Is there even a way to revert to 5.0
Ill say maybe a month since 5.1.1 was realesed. Testing some rooting mmethods myself so ill get back to yu all if I found a way
Should have waited for a dev to get hold of it, never do a ota. I have never took an ota yet, not planning to either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61852944
have also twp recovery? for 5.1.1
I did brick my SM-G900T trying to go from 5.1.1 to 5.0. I read that Samsung added "protection" to 5.1.1 to prevent reverting & possibly rooting (not sure about that). I took the phone to a repair shop - it now has 5.0 and the OTA 5.1.1 is trying to download again.... I'm going to attempt to root 5.0. As I am new to rooting, really don't know what I'm doing & and am relying on internet posts, wish me luck!

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