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I found several listings of good used unlocked v10s for less than $250. With all the variants there are, which one do you guys recommend me getting? I am one who likes to root and have xposed and custom recoveries. I know currently the T-mobile is unlocked bootloader, but is there any development for any of the other v10s? International? AT&T? Verizon? Any hope for those phones or should I stick to an unlocked T-mo. variant?
Edit: Sorry guys, delete this thread. I have MetroPCS and I just now learned that a T-mobile device can work on Metro without being unlocked. So I will be buying a T-mobile LG V10 instead of an unlocked one.
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
Adooda said:
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
jcsww said:
I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
sic0048 said:
Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....
I know the locked version will for sure, but what about the unlocked version? If you have any official info, please post it here.
Thanks!
Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
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Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
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Model US997 does not have wifi calling. Yes to Volte, but no wifi calling!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
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I did have wifi calling enabled as well as VoLTE on my unlocked G6. I'm not sure why you don't have that option but I did.
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So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better.
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Ok thanks! Maybe after it comes out I'll make sure. I could care less about Wi-Fi Calling though I have used it once or twice. VoLTE is very important though. Hopefully it has both.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
ChazzMatt said:
It's coincidentally the U.S.model also, as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Ok, interesting.
So the U.S. Unlocked G6 had VoLTE for sure then it seems. Cool, thanks for sharing this info!! :good:
I will probably still wait for verification on here from someone before I buy the Unlocked one. I want the unlocked one cuz it will be cheaper than the T-Mobile variant.
Do you know anyone who has T-Mobile and also plans to get the Unlocked U.S. variant of the V30 as well?? lol
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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Well it appears that T-Mobile actually IS having a promotion (or promotions) for the locked V30 after all. So I guess I'm just gonna buy the locked one. No sense in waiting. I can just sell the Plus tablet for prob at least $180 on eBay so F it. lol Plus I'm gonna sell my Topaz Gold HTC 10 for maybe $250? and then pay off the remaining $140 I owe on it. They ran out of the Topaz Gold one months ago, so I'm guessing that's why it's going for higher than the other colors (selling for around $200 vs. $300) which they still had available more recently.
Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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One thing, the locked T-Mo V30 will have that Band 71/600 MHz capability (first one ever on their network). Do we have any idea if the unlocked V30 will have that too? VoLTE seems pretty likely given your findings on the unlocked G6, but what about this?
Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
VeixES said:
Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
Thanks for checkin' into this VeixES!
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
Thanks for checkin' into this VeixES!
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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Well then I'm VERY glad I got the T-Mobile locked version. lol
Verizon LG V30 or Verizon LG V30+ i am thinking of getting this phone if either or both are Rootable-----but i cant seem to get a clear answer looking through the forms to confirm a yes or no i am U.S.A, VERIZON --Thanks for any help.--
You’d need to buy the unlocked version for it to be rootable.
B&H has preorders for it.
Verizon LG V30 is not rootable and probably never will be.
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Verizon LG V30 or Verizon LG V30+ i am thinking of getting this phone if either or both are Rootable-----
but i can't seem to get a clear answer looking through the forms to confirm a yes or no i am U.S.A, VERIZON --
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We've been pretty clear.
There's a 34-page thread called:
LG V30: Unlock bootloader and Root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/unlock-bootloader-root-t3665927
Right now it's buried down below other threads (because there's no root yet), but really the posts on the first page are all you need to read, particularly posts #6, #7 and #9. (That was written in early September -- a full month before the U.S. carrier branded versions of the LG V30 were released, for anyone who wanted to research before buying.)
Yes, a lot of that discussion seems to center on the T-mobile variant, but if you read you see it covers ALL the carrier-branded LG V30 models. They are all ADB-crippled and may never receive root.
Yes, there are efforts to overcome this, but the best theory so far will still need to wait until the open market US998 is released and hopefully use files from that model?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74557506&postcount=76
Probably with something like a custom patched LGUP file:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74561087&postcount=78
And even then that's only for the T-mobile variant, which doesn't need bootloader unlock exploit.
Only the "open market" officially carrier unlocked US998 (North America) and H930 (Europe) will receive LG-sanctioned bootloader unlock and have full ADB flash commands. Those phones will receive root, TWRP, ROMs, kernels. GUARANTEED -- just like the open market LG G6 models. The US998 will be released in early December and a few weeks after that will be placed on LG's bootloader unlock list. The H930 for Europe has already been released in early November, but has still not been place on LG's bootloader unlock list.
This US998 is NOT NOT NOT U.S. Cellular's model. (Yet, no matter how many times I say that, someone will reply, "That's the U.S. Cellular model." Please do not be that person who can't read. ) The "open market" US998 is not sold by any carrier, only by authorized 3rd party retailers, like B&H Photo. In the past, also Best Buy and Amazon, but only B&H Photo right now has a pre-order page up.
The North America US998 has all the bands CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE to work with all the North American carriers. And the question everyone asks, "Will it also have LTE band 71?" We don't know, there's evidence both ways.
Hey guys, i had this LS993 G6 Sprint unrooted and sim card locked for about a year. Months ago a few fellas here on XDA thrown away the idea that you could flash unlocked Canadian variant LG H873 firmware and you were going to be sim unlocked, Sprint debloated and maybe rootable. And it was a royal success:good::good:
I've just got this LG G5 Sprint LS992 from eBay for a buddy's birthday gift and i was thinking if can i do the very same process. With let's say flashing H831 (Canadian unlocked variant firmware) to achieve SIM unlock, Sprint debloat and probably root.
I've seen this very same conversion has been done with newer Sprint models like V30+ and a couple others so fingers crossed it can work. Please let me know if anyone has tried it.
****, i just realized the tittle of the thread says "converted" but i had in mine "can it be converted"... My apologize if anyone comes thinking i've already done it. It's a gift for a buddy so i would prefer not to risk bricking it.
Maybe someone has an already cracked or old one that can be risked.