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A few of us purchased the Dev Edition and it appears there are some things where clarification is required concerning the three "R's":
1. Rooting: I understand this wonderful rooting exercise is successful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798. I would think since the Dev Edition is unlocked, an owner would only utilize Step 3, and NOT the kernel exchange section. Correct?
2. ROMing: Since the ROMS were created using the Loki enabled system, does this affect ROMing the Dev Edition since it is already unlocked? What does a user need to do? Or, does it not matter? Do the Loki enabled ROMS work on a Dev Edition?
3. Recovery: Again, it appears TWRP and CWM are Loki adjusted, so does this affect recovery on the Dev Edition and restoring? Also, is there a Stock Factory Image which will NOT turn the phone back to a locked bootloader? Or, does the one which exists OK to use?
I only ask these questions since a few of us are somewhat confused.
Thanking you in advance!
markwebb said:
A few of us purchased the Dev Edition and it appears there are some things where clarification is required concerning the three "R's":
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I've been thinking about buying the Verizon S4 Dev Edition phone, but have been hesitant due to not knowing how simple it would be to root. Is it as simple as just running MotoChopper? Or is there a better way?
Being that the bootloader on this phone is truly unlocked, can you install the current versions of CWM or TWRP that are LOKI enabled, and will it work on this phone? I haven't seen any compiled versions that were non-loki (standard).
Same question goes for kernels too.
The first batch of Dev phones sold out in less than 24 hours, so I'd expect some of the people that have them would start posting their experience with it here soon. At least, I hope so!
Root failed when just applying the Motochopper step! It says it installs correctly and then it reboots and SuperSu is installed and then I checked for an upgrade which it took. However, it says it cannot install binary, there is a problem and closes.
I uninstalled SuperSu and tried a few times to root again but it doesn't work.
My phone states:
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-562219 dated May 15th
Build Number: JDQ439.I545OYUAMDK
Baseband: I545OYUAMDK
Must be something we can do....
markwebb said:
Root failed when just applying the Motochopper step! It says it installs correctly and then it reboots and SuperSu is installed and then I checked for an upgrade which it took. However, it says it cannot install binary, there is a problem and closes.
I uninstalled SuperSu and tried a few times to root again but it doesn't work.
My phone states:
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-562219 dated May 15th
Build Number: JDQ439.I545OYUAMDK
Baseband: I545OYUAMDK
Must be something we can do....
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I wonder if step 2 and 4 are still required? (swapping kernels)
Even though the bootloader is unlocked, the kernel may still have root blocked?
guyd said:
I wonder if step 2 and 4 are still required? (swapping kernels)
Even though the bootloader is unlocked, the kernel may still have root blocked?
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It sounds like it. But wouldn't swapping kernels render the Dev Edition to a retail version? Kinda defeats the purpose, no? Or, am I missing something?
The question is: Does the Dev Edition have the same kernel as the Retail Edition? If so, then it would make sense to swap kernels. I think we need the devs to weigh in.
markwebb said:
It sounds like it. But wouldn't swapping kernels render the Dev Edition to a retail version? Kinda defeats the purpose, no? Or, am I missing something?
The question is: Does the Dev Edition have the same kernel as the Retail Edition? If so, then it would make sense to swap kernels. I think we need the devs to weigh in.
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From what I've been able to gather, Samsung has put in place a SetUID restriction on the stock release kernel via CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_SETUID. Apparently the D2 prerelease kernel doesn't have this restriction in place. That seems to be why flashing that is required prior to using MotoChopper to gain root. What I can't figure out is why you can flash the release DK afterwards and still keep root?
On the T-Mobile and Sprint S4 they've been able to remove the SetUID restriction on their latest DL release kernel by recompiling the kernel source with the SetUID restriction commented out
Thanks for the thoughts and analysis. Hopefully someone will find an alternate
root method for the dev edition since it has been available for a week and it sold out in less than twenty four hours, somebody with know how must have purchased it and is tinkering as we speak.
I would hate to render it back to a retail version otherwise.
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markwebb said:
Thanks for the thoughts and analysis. Hopefully someone will find an alternate
root method for the dev edition since it has been available for a week and it sold out in less than twenty four hours, somebody with know how must have purchased it and is tinkering as we speak.
I would hate to render it back to a retail version otherwise.
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I think I may have found a solution. With the Developer Edition we have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use loki. I was looking for a non-loki patched (normal) recovery that could be flashed in Odin. I think I found one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322675. Look for the "Latest version can be found here" link, not the "loki patched" link. The filename is : Philz_touch_5.06.6-jfltevzw.tar.md5
If this works like it did in previous unlocked Samsung devices, then we should be able to flash the custom recovery in Odin, and then boot into recovery afterwards to flash SuperUser. From there, we're rooted.
If I had my dev edition S4, I'd test it out myself. But I'm still waiting for them to get back in stock!
Great..am somewhat game to try. Well report back. Thanks!!
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IT WORKED...somewhat!!! When it boots, I now get Samsung Custom and unlocked symbol and I am in Philz Touch Recovery backing up the image.
As expected, the backup image is 4GB+ (saved on external card of course).
However, I can't update binary for root.
You, sir, are a genius...thanks so much..almost there!
Not really rooted though. Can't update binary and when in Root Explorer I can explore most folders but Root checker says I am not rooted.
Now what do I do? LOL
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IT WORKED...somewhat!!! When it boots, I nLet me know how it goes ow get Samsung Custom and unlocked symbol and I am in Philz Touch Recovery backing up the image.
As expected, the backup image is 4GB+ (saved on external card of course).
However, I can't update binary for root.
You, sir, are a genius...thanks so much..almost there!
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Did you flash SuperSU from recovery via the zip file? (from this thread) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053. Look for the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.41.zip file in the download section.
This should give you root after flashing in recovery! If you can't get root in a root app after flashing this file, then the kernel is blocking root. You can thank Samsung for adding that in the DK kernel.
You can easily work around this by flashing a custom kernel!
Let me know how it goes.
guyd said:
Did you flash SuperSU from recovery via the zip file? (from this thread) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053. Look for the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.41.zip file in the download section.
This should give you root after flashing in recovery! If you can't get root in a root app after flashing this file, then the kernel is blocking root. You can thank Samsung for adding that in the DK kernel.
You can easily work around this by flashing a custom kernel!
Let me know how it goes.
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
Now we need a thread/tutorial started for the Dev Edition Owners on how to do this!!
markwebb said:
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
Now we need a thread/tutorial started for the Dev Edition Owners on how to do this!!
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Do you now have root with the stock DK kernel, or did you flash a custom kernel?
Root with stock kernel.
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Root with stock kernel.
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Now I know exactly what I need to do when I get mine!
Thanks for testing it out on your device
guyd said:
Now I know exactly what I need to do when I get mine!
Thanks for testing it out on your device
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You are welcome. Now, the next question: Can we flash the ROM's which are Loki adjusted?
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You are welcome. Now, the next question: Can we flash the ROM's which are Loki adjusted?
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Good question. From what I have seen thus far, the recovery is the piece that has to be Loki adjusted to allow it to be flashed on a locked bootloader. I don't think the ROM cares one way or the other. The only thing I still have questions about is the kernel. Is the kernel in the Developer Edition different than the carrier version?
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Good question. The only thing I still have questions about is the kernel. Is the kernel in the Developer Edition different than the carrier version?
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How do I/we find out? If you have any suggestions, let me know. I have gone this far and sweated.
markwebb said:
How do I/we find out? If you have any suggestions, let me know. I have gone this far and sweated.
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If we could get an MD5 of the Developer DK kernel (boot.img), and compare it to the MD5 of a completely stock DK kernel (boot.img). Or maybe compare the kernel build numbers? I dunno, just throwing some ideas out.
I found this from Google.
All credits to Himanshu Rawat, http://www.handheldwar.com/htc/root-htc-one-max-without-loosing-stock-rom/
Rooting
1. Download One Click Root to your computer or laptop, after download extract it.
2. Open One Click Root Button.
3. Click on Root Now Button.
4. After Few minutes your HTC One Max would restart.
5. After the Restart your HTC One Max will be rooted.
I HAVEN'T TRIED THIS MYSELF! Have anybody else tried and confirm it to work?
I don't think it works.... refer to the same blog http://www.handheldwar.com/htc/root-htc-desire-601-without-loosing-stock-rom/
This blogger seems to just post the same thing for attracting traffic.. the oneclickroot application might even be some kind of maware.
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There is a comment under the other blog post which says it does not work
pradeepvizz said:
I don't think it works.... refer to the same blog http://www.handheldwar.com/htc/root-htc-desire-601-without-loosing-stock-rom/
This blogger seems to just post the same thing for attracting traffic.. the oneclickroot application might even be some kind of maware.
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There is a comment under the other blog post which says it does not work
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Oh, that sucks... I only need a root, dont want to unlock BL yet, because i dont want to lose fingerprint scanner. Thanks mate about telling that!
zige said:
Oh, that sucks... I only need a root, dont want to unlock BL yet, because i dont want to lose fingerprint scanner. Thanks mate about telling that!
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my pleasure mate, this seems to be the original site - http://www.oneclickroot.com/
You can give it a try though. Tried to install it on my pc, does not seem to be a malware.
pradeepvizz said:
my pleasure mate, this seems to be the original site - http://www.oneclickroot.com/
You can give it a try though. Tried to install it on my pc, does not seem to be a malware.
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Yeah, but i'm afraid to try it if someone say that it doesnt work I dont want brick my new One Max right away..
I would try it however mine is soffed and rooted already... I won't worry about trying it out.. There are not much tool which can brick our phones without s off or atleast bootloader unlock.
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It´s not working already tryed. I have the same Problem wan´t to gain s-off without unlocking bootloader, but there for i need a rooted stock rom. But i find no way to root my stock rom without unlocking the bootloader. If someone find a why please tell me.
I am afraid there won't be any methods to root it without boot loader unlock. Google is making android secure enough that root does not happen until bl unlock, which is good for us. If I am not wrong Samsung phone still get a method without bootloader unlock, I suppose that's because if Samsung or the extreme number of ppl could be working on it.
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told silvnsu
This didnt work for me. i would use the method that uses rumrunner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550559&page=2
hasnt worked for me quite yet, but its worked for many people.
logikzzz said:
This didnt work for me. i would use the method that uses rumrunner.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550559&page=2
hasnt worked for me quite yet, but its worked for many people.
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is your phone Verizon or sprint? The international variant is quite straight forward to root.
1. Unlock Bootloader via HTC Dev
2. Flash custom recovery from the recovery thread CMW/TWRP.
3. Download SuperSu.zip from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
4. Flash the zip in recovery.
If you use runrunner for the international version, you have to be rooted/unlocked first.
pradeepvizz said:
is your phone Verizon or sprint? The international variant is quite straight forward to root.
1. Unlock Bootloader via HTC Dev
2. Flash custom recovery from the recovery thread CMW/TWRP.
3. Download SuperSu.zip from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
4. Flash the zip in recovery.
If you use runrunner for the international version, you have to be rooted/unlocked first.
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Sprint - i am rooted fine, i need S-Off so i can reset tampered flag and relock bootlocker. to re-enable my fingerprint scanner.
logikzzz said:
Sprint - i am rooted fine, i need S-Off so i can reset tampered flag and relock bootlocker. to re-enable my fingerprint scanner.
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This the thread for it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
i don't see posts which mention sprint, however it ain't anything difficult. scotty should be able to help you there.
pradeepvizz said:
This the thread for it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
i don't see posts which mention sprint, however it ain't anything difficult. scotty should be able to help you there.
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I was able to get S-OFF - and fingerprint working again... I was using the verizon rumrunner instead of .5 universal....... :silly:
logikzzz said:
I was able to get S-OFF - and fingerprint working again... I was using the verizon rumrunner instead of .5 universal....... :silly:
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+1
As I was running through the numerous One Max reviews researching whether I would take the plunge or go for the Note 3, I ran across the following article:
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-rooted-unlock-bootloader-soff-rumrunner.html
It's dated for 9 December, but I can't totally verify that it works however as I was "lucky" to find one on eBay already S-Off, Rooted, and Bootloader Unlocked. Figured the seller's asking price of $675 was essentially the same as going to VZW and dropping $599 + tax. (Holding on to my unlimited data plan is getting increasingly more expensive with each phone upgrade.
Hello
Please i need Your help
If i will use One click root to my HTC Max 809d it will root it without stops the fingerprint ?
I need to know this before i make it if you please .
Thanks.
*deprecated*
for a non-vzw experience, check out my gpe rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...0-google-play-edition-4-t2715488#post51857643
Thanks man
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Wow ..... Nice
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just realized i posted this in the original android development thread, oops. mods please feel free to move to appropriate thread.
made a small change in the updater script to wipe cache.
after realizing that all apks and jars on 4.4+ have classes.dex files, even the odexed ones, i edited the updater-script to remove dalvik-cache entries for the vzw odexed files. this *should* be the final release of this mod afaict, at least for this build version.
Flashing now to give this a whirl. thanks
Just the fix I was looking for .... Beautiful
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here's a small flashable zip i made that removes the vzw bloat and branding, and unlocks tethering (thanks dymmeh!).
it also replaces the moto setup process with the aosp one, which is only noticeable if doing a factory reset after installing; a side effect of hiding the setup launcher icon.
http://batakang.com/ftp/?dir=devs/mhous33/xt1060
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Can't say enough about how nice this all aspects of this.zip work. I've been running it over a day now and have absolutely no issues! It's so nice to have a tool that removes the VZW BS and enables native tethering all in one package. I hope future development on this package might include a "Return to stock .zip". with 4.4.2 ota in the near future.
Assuming this is only for the DE?
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Rebel908 said:
Assuming this is only for the DE?
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Yes ... I believe .... I installed on my VZW DE edition thru custom recovery
hartv427 said:
Can't say enough about how nice this all aspects of this.zip work. I've been running it over a day now and have absolutely no issues! It's so nice to have a tool that removes the VZW BS and enables native tethering all in one package. I hope future development on this package might include a "Return to stock .zip". with 4.4.2 ota in the near future.
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thanks, and that is a good idea.
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added an undo zip to the folder linked in op.
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Assuming this is only for the DE?
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there's no reason this shouldn't work on stock rooted device.
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this should work fine installing on a stock 140.45.5 safestrap rom, if there are any available. afaik hashcode never made the primary partition flashable in safestrap, not sure though as i have an unlocked device and haven't really messed around with it.
Q9Nap said:
thanks, and that is a good idea.
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added an undo zip to the folder linked in op.
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Perfect I assume the
data/dalvik-cache/.dex , /data/data/com., /system/app/.odex and /system/priv-app/.odex "files" would be rebuilt on the first boot after flashing the xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-undo-s.zip ?
The "undo" .zip will have you back to stock in a flash ... If need be
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Perfect I assume the
data/dalvik-cache/.dex , /data/data/com., /system/app/.odex and /system/priv-app/.odex "files" would be rebuilt on the first boot after flashing the xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-undo-s.zip ?
The "undo" .zip will have you back to stock in a flash ... If need be
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dalvik-cache entries will be created on first boot, not the odex files; but they are included in the undo zip.
interestingly, odex files are not needed on 4.4+ as each apk and jar has a classes.dex file. you can safely delete all odex files, though there isn't really anything to gain by doing so unless you want to modify the smali code. also, deleting odex files will probably break ART capability.
Q9Nap said:
dalvik-cache entries will be created on first boot, not the odex files; but they are included in the undo zip.
interestingly, odex files are not needed on 4.4+ as each apk and jar has a classes.dex file. you can safely delete all odex files, though there isn't really anything to gain by doing so unless you want to modify the smali code. also, deleting odex files will probably break ART capability.
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Thanks for explaining that:good: The undo.zip will be a quick fix to revert back to stock in the event another user or I might take the upcoming OTA but odds are I'll wait for the .sbf to be released
This is great. I mean, why does the Dev Edition even ship with Verizon crapps.
SwiftLeeO said:
This is great. I mean, why does the Dev Edition even ship with Verizon crapps.
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because vzw are control freaks :/
Q9Nap said:
because vzw are control freaks :/
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Also the reason why Verizon customers can't have the Nexus 5. I mean I love my Moto, but originally I was going to buy a Nexus 5 and i read about how they screwed Google over with the Galaxy Nexus (they said they wouldnt, then they did load verizon crapware). If I could get out of my contract right now, I would
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Also the reason why Verizon customers can't have the Nexus 5. I mean I love my Moto, but originally I was going to buy a Nexus 5 and i read about how they screwed Google over with the Galaxy Nexus (they said they wouldnt, then they did load verizon crapware). If I could get out of my contract right now, I would
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I understand and agree with you completely, if not for the awesome unlimited plan i have our family on and Verizon's perfect coverage in my area, i would consider dumping them also
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So the Verizon Developer Edition is shipped with the Verizon bloat etc too? That's interesting, since you think that it would be similar to a Google Play edition phone, coming from Moto and all. Eh. Can't wait for my Moto X VZW Dev Edition (even tho im in Aus )
Q9Nap said:
there's no reason this shouldn't work on stock rooted device.
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this should work fine installing on a stock 140.45.5 safestrap rom, if there are any available. afaik hashcode never made the primary partition flashable in safestrap, not sure though as i have an unlocked device and haven't really messed around with it.
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Here's a link to the only Safestrap friendly stock VZ ROM I could find. It works perfectly on the stock slot (primary partition).
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/108826-[ROM][Safestrap][XT1060]-Stock-Rooted-Vzw-140.45.5-KitKat
[ROM][Safestrap][XT1060] Stock Rooted Vzw 140.45.5 KitKat
Also, the dev asked that we only link to the thread, not the ROM itself.
Anyway, glad to see this MOD. It's exactly what I was looking for and likely what others wanted after the Eclipse ROM drama from a couple days ago... Stock and Xposed Framework friendly.
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Hey all,
I got the ATT one M8 from the US. its has some nonworking features (like tethering\hotspot). I really need that option and I understand that flashing the Viper ROM will help.
However - my work requires my phone not to be rooted to get emails.
Is it possible to unroot viper ROM after I install it (meaning keeping the viper ROM installed but unrooting it)?
thank you in advance
Could try [email protected] xposed module not sure itll work but worth a shot
mishumashu said:
Hey all,
I got the ATT one M8 from the US. its has some nonworking features (like tethering\hotspot). I really need that option and I understand that flashing the Viper ROM will help.
However - my work requires my phone not to be rooted to get emails.
Is it possible to unroot viper ROM after I install it (meaning keeping the viper ROM installed but unrooting it)?
thank you in advance
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I saw on a thread a couple weeks back about a flashable zip that unlocks wifi tethering. Im sure a simple search will dig that thread back up for you. it seemed pretty simple to do.
I flashed a RUU on mine that installed factory att software (bloated of course) but wifi tethering worked on it.
I think i got it from Mr. hoffs
chevyjohn01 said:
I saw on a thread a couple weeks back about a flashable zip that unlocks wifi tethering. Im sure a simple search will dig that thread back up for you. it seemed pretty simple to do.
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That mod requires root.
chevyjohn01 said:
I flashed a RUU on mine that installed factory att software (bloated of course) but wifi tethering worked on it.
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Tethering will work on a stock device (or device which official RUU was installed) if your AT&T account permits tethering. But its a network based verification. So if you try to use the stock AT&T ROM on another carrier (which is sounds like the OP is doing) it breaks the WiFi tethering feature (unless you mod the phone).
The OP is in kind of a Catch 22, where root is needed for tethering, but his work doesn't permit root. So it seems WNC's suggestion (if it works) is the best bet.
Couldn't he just unlock bootloader and boot TWRP without flashing custom recovery or rooting device and run flashable zip?
chevyjohn01 said:
Couldn't he just unlock bootloader and boot TWRP without flashing custom recovery or rooting device and run flashable zip?
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Most custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
Thank you all for the replies.
I have given up on trying to find a stock ROM and just flashed the Viper.
Cant get work emails now - will try the root cloak .
and thanks again for AT&T for being so square as to not let people from other countries and carriers use their own phones features!
Its time for an upgrade and I am eyeing the G3. Its currently $.99 on upgrade, and the price is playing a big part in my decision as money is tight right now and my older S3 is falling apart.
The thing that draws me to this phone is its unlocked bootloader. I have tried to research on my own, and what I have found is that you can get a custom recovery and ROM on a G3 from most stock OOB configs.
However, I cant find any super recent talk of it. That doesnt mean there isnt, it just means I havent found it on this forum or elsewhere and my Search-Fu is probably weak.. I believe I read that the G3 was recently updated OTA to lolipop, and my question is does the CURRENT, brand new G3 from verizon still have the capability to install custom roms? I am no smartphone expert, ive rooted and custom rom'd an old tablet and I am confident in my technical skills, and I just want to make sure that the phone (which i probably will go pick up from the VZW store tomorrow) is still viable because if its not, ill probably get a different phone. I will go deeper into research mode once I know for sure, I am worried though that the bootloader has been locked as this happened to the S3 later in its life after the Kitkat upgrade.
TLDR is a new G3 from verizon still ROM'able and such?
Thank you for your help, this is a pretty awesome site/forum and I hate to bother you all with noobish questions!
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Its time for an upgrade and I am eyeing the G3. Its currently $.99 on upgrade, and the price is playing a big part in my decision as money is tight right now and my older S3 is falling apart.
The thing that draws me to this phone is its unlocked bootloader. I have tried to research on my own, and what I have found is that you can get a custom recovery and ROM on a G3 from most stock OOB configs.
However, I cant find any super recent talk of it. That doesnt mean there isnt, it just means I havent found it on this forum or elsewhere and my Search-Fu is probably weak.. I believe I read that the G3 was recently updated OTA to lolipop, and my question is does the CURRENT, brand new G3 from verizon still have the capability to install custom roms? I am no smartphone expert, ive rooted and custom rom'd an old tablet and I am confident in my technical skills, and I just want to make sure that the phone (which i probably will go pick up from the VZW store tomorrow) is still viable because if its not, ill probably get a different phone. I will go deeper into research mode once I know for sure, I am worried though that the bootloader has been locked as this happened to the S3 later in its life after the Kitkat upgrade.
TLDR is a new G3 from verizon still ROM'able and such?
Thank you for your help, this is a pretty awesome site/forum and I hate to bother you all with noobish questions!
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I have a Verizon g3 but mine didn't come with the boot loader unlocked! And also it's a great phone, the only downside is the battery life with the new lollipop update but if you root it, you can fix that problem
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salvabigboy said:
I have a Verizon g3 but mine didn't come with the boot loader unlocked! And also it's a great phone, the only downside is the battery life with the new lollipop update but if you root it, you can fix that problem
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O really? So you are unable to install a recovery and ROMS?
Forgive my ignorance, I might be misusing the terminology.
Carmelized_FUNTIME said:
O really? So you are unable to install a recovery and ROMS?
Forgive my ignorance, I might be misusing the terminology.
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That's correct. I rooted my phone but I was unsuccesful on unlocking the boot loader and now I updated my phone so I lost root. Although I heard about an app called autorec in the play store that will install the custom recovery for you. There is a Verizon g3 variant too
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Carmelized_FUNTIME said:
O really? So you are unable to install a recovery and ROMS?
Forgive my ignorance, I might be misusing the terminology.
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Plan on kdz'ing or tot'ing back to the stock firmware (10B), and then root, unlock, and install TWRP (custom recovery), and you'll be good to go to install custom roms! All OOB firmwares from Verizon can be kdz'ed or tot'ed back to the stock firmware, so yes that's a HUGE plus.
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Plan on kdz'ing or tot'ing back to the stock firmware (10B), and then root, unlock, and install TWRP (custom recovery), and you'll be good to go to install custom roms! All OOB firmwares from Verizon can be kdz'ed or tot'ed back to the stock firmware, so yes that's a HUGE plus.
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So just to clarify you are saying is that all G3's regardless of stock firmware, even the latest VZW version G3, can be rooted, unlocked and custom rom installed, it just make take a little extra work on some of them?
Carmelized_FUNTIME said:
Its time for an upgrade and I am eyeing the G3. Its currently $.99 on upgrade, and the price is playing a big part in my decision as money is tight right now and my older S3 is falling apart.
The thing that draws me to this phone is its unlocked bootloader. I have tried to research on my own, and what I have found is that you can get a custom recovery and ROM on a G3 from most stock OOB configs.
However, I cant find any super recent talk of it. That doesnt mean there isnt, it just means I havent found it on this forum or elsewhere and my Search-Fu is probably weak.. I believe I read that the G3 was recently updated OTA to lolipop, and my question is does the CURRENT, brand new G3 from verizon still have the capability to install custom roms? I am no smartphone expert, ive rooted and custom rom'd an old tablet and I am confident in my technical skills, and I just want to make sure that the phone (which i probably will go pick up from the VZW store tomorrow) is still viable because if its not, ill probably get a different phone. I will go deeper into research mode once I know for sure, I am worried though that the bootloader has been locked as this happened to the S3 later in its life after the Kitkat upgrade.
TLDR is a new G3 from verizon still ROM'able and such?
Thank you for your help, this is a pretty awesome site/forum and I hate to bother you all with noobish questions!
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If the phone ships with the latest 24B update you can root with my script but TWRP will not work yet.
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NBreunig3 said:
If the phone ships with the latest 24B update you can root with my script but TWRP will not work yet.
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Whats your root script? And have you tried autorec for recovery?
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salvabigboy said:
Whats your root script? And have you tried autorec for recovery?
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My root script will root 24B. Autorec works with 23C and only 23C. So 24B = Root only but 23C = Root + TWRP. Check out my toolkit which will do all of this for you. bit.ly/VZWG3Toolkit
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NBreunig3 said:
My root script will root 24B. Autorec works with 23C and only 23C. So 24B = Root only but 23C = Root + TWRP. Check out my toolkit which will do all of this for you. bit.ly/VZWG3Toolkit
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Thanks! I'll check it out. I really don't want a new Rom anyway. Just interested in the battery saving apps
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Carmelized_FUNTIME said:
So just to clarify you are saying is that all G3's regardless of stock firmware, even the latest VZW version G3, can be rooted, unlocked and custom rom installed, it just make take a little extra work on some of them?
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That's correct. And whether or not you want a custom ROM, I would still root AND unlock, that way you can install TWRP, take nandroid backups, etc. and thereby make it easier on yourself if you ever jacked up the phone doing something with root. I figure if you're gonna go to the trouble of rooting, might as well unlock too. Just my 2 cents
hello, I tried using your method but it tells me " cannot stat "busyboy" no such file or directory" and I tried using the other method you said to use incase that happened and I tried both the root.bat and send command option but still no success! please tell me what to do! I'm on 5.0.1 24B
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NBreunig3 said:
My root script will root 24B. Autorec works with 23C and only 23C. So 24B = Root only but 23C = Root + TWRP. Check out my toolkit which will do all of this for you. bit.ly/VZWG3Toolkit
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hi, I tried your method but it did not work and I got the message "cannot stat "busybox" no file or directory" and then I looked at the forum andsed the other method it said to use incase that happened and used both the root.bat and send command option but it still didn't work! I really need help!! I'm on 5.0.1 24b
Carmelized_FUNTIME said:
So just to clarify you are saying is that all G3's regardless of stock firmware, even the latest VZW version G3, can be rooted, unlocked and custom rom installed, it just make take a little extra work on some of them?
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Technically, it's not unlocked. There is an exploit that allows you to flash custom ROMs and kernels as if the bootloader was unlocked. On the surface, yes. You could say it's unlocked, but it it were truly unlocked, you could flash TWRP without having to be rooted. But you can't replace the recovery correctly without being rooted first. Hence, it's an exploit that skirts around the locked bootloader. It's still locked, but an exploit allows you to flash TWRP after you are rooted.
Here's what I know:
The first thing you must do is root the phone. You can root 24B as stated earlier by an earlier post.
Once rooted, you can flash TWRP but only if you are not on 24B. If you are on the latest OTA (24b), you can still flash TWRP, but it requires some extra steps. However, there is an app for this that you can install and run and it will prep your phone for TWRP and then install TWRP. It's basically a one-click TWRP install. You can get it in the Google Play store at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=b007.autorecvs985. Saves a lot of headaches.
So, I can one-click root my phone. Then install the LG G3 AutoRec-LP app to flash TWRP for me and I'm done!
You're bootloader is not unlocked, but TWRP is a "bumped" version. Bumping is the term they use for taking advantage of the exploit. But, you can't just flash any ROM out there for the G3. ROMs are specific to the model of the phone you have. For instance, you cannot take a D855 version (UK version of G3 I believe) of a ROM and flash it on your VS985 version. You'll brick it. ROMs have to also be "bumped" in order to work and be flashed, hence that is why the ROMs are specific to each model of the G3.
So if the AT&T version of the g3 has a ROM but the Verizon doesn't have that particular ROM, it's because the dev hasn't bumped their ROM for VS985. So, you can only flash those ROMs that are bumped for VS985.
But, the bumped version of TWRP and the ROMs act the same as if you had an unlocked bootloader, but it's an exploit that could be patched in the future. For whatever reason, LG and Verzion have not done that. Not sure why. But, caution on blindly taking any future OTAs. I would wait until you hear whether you can either revert back to a previous version to exploit and still root and bump on that previous version or not. Otherwise, you will be SOL.
As for unlocking the bootloader, that has only been allowed for overseas variants of the G3, but there is one issue that many might now like. When you truly unlock the bootloader with LG's unlocking tool, DRM is removed (which many would love), but then that means, some movie streaming services you use might not work any more because of the DRM removal. So, my feeling right now is, bumping is the best way to go.
Here's LG's description of what happens when you unlock it officially using their tool (mind you, as I stated, this is only for overseas variants of the G3):
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS
salvabigboy said:
hello, I tried using your method but it tells me " cannot stat "busyboy" no such file or directory" and I tried using the other method you said to use incase that happened and I tried both the root.bat and send command option but still no success! please tell me what to do! I'm on 5.0.1 24B
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hi, I tried your method but it did not work and I got the message "cannot stat "busybox" no file or directory" and then I looked at the forum andsed the other method it said to use incase that happened and used both the root.bat and send command option but it still didn't work! I really need help!! I'm on 5.0.1 24b
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Download the root separately
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Download the root separately
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How do I do that!? Sorry but it's like my second time ever rooting
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salvabigboy said:
How do I do that!? Sorry but it's like my second time ever rooting
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197