Hi!
Will be the 8gb internal memory enough for some apps and ocasionally games (moves to sd if can)?
What is standard app size for lollipop? (i.e. facebook, instagram or something)
snopkowsky said:
Hi!
Will be the 8gb internal memory enough for some apps and ocasionally games (moves to sd if can)?
What is standard app size for lollipop? (i.e. facebook, instagram or something)
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with a bit clean up of apps you dont need (oem apps), you have about 1,8-2 gb of free storage....
at the moment i have a few installed apps (like ebay, amazon, dropbox and so on.... about 13 apps) and have 1,3 gb free storage...
its okay... but root & link2sd would make the whole thing easier
btw. sry for my bad english
M4Aqua said:
with a bit clean up of apps you dont need (oem apps), you have about 1,8-2 gb of free storage....
at the moment i have a few installed apps (like ebay, amazon, dropbox and so on.... about 13 apps) and have 1,3 gb free storage...
its okay... but root & link2sd would make the whole thing easier
btw. sry for my bad english
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thanks for reply.
what about lollipop's move to sd? how much data it can move on to sdcard?
and what size is i.e. this ebay or amazon, or dropbox app?
snopkowsky said:
thanks for reply.
what about lollipop's move to sd? how much data it can move on to sdcard?
and what size is i.e. this ebay or amazon, or dropbox app?
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it depends on the app you want to move to sd... i would say about 30-50% of the app size u can move to sd card...
all my apps i have added are about 600mb ... and at the moment i have about 1,3 gb of free storage...
I hope there will be a good root solution, since 8GB is not enough at all. My Xperia V has also 8GB (mid-range device from 2012! WTF Sony?!) and I suffered a lot, even if I used bloatware-free system (CyanogenMod), until I found a very useful guide which helped to re-partition my internal memory and increased my data partition from 2 to 4GB. I hope something similar could be done with M4 too in the future, or at least Link2sd, but we will need root, deadly.
In Vietnamese market, we get the Sony M4 aqua dual with 8Gb! We are all suffering a lots, mostly from those who want to play games with big data.
8 Gigs would be enough if they didn't put so much crap on it. Buy 16 Gig version if you have a chance.
I also sold my 8GB version and bought a new one from Amazon.fr with 16GB (dual-sim). Much much better...
I have one from the last 15 days and i'm very disapointed with it.
The phone already acuses lack of memory and said to uninstall apk and i already took of a lot of stuff from vodafone.
And there are a lot of bugs also.
The SD card is always disconecting, after only reboot everything stays ok without do nothing more.
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How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
Even on the OGVO I never had issues, but then again, I don't download the entire market.
When they start releasing roms I'm sure it will free up a couple more gb of internal storage BC were suppose to have 4. I think but I'm not sure a lot of rom was used for sense and the security they used to lock the phone.
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No problems here. I haunt even used a third.. there is no need to have hundreds of apps..
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* Pre-Honeycomb Android versions have a space limitation on installed apps.
* Froyo and Gingerbread grants the ability to move applicable apps to external media (microSD).
* Honeycomb takes advantage of all available space for application installation while removing the ability to move apps to external media.
ThaiM said:
How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
Well I was really worried to owned a EVO and only had like 400 mb left. And the Thunderbird like 2.5 gb free (out of the 8gb internal that they say it has) anyways most apps over 10mb will let you moved to SD card , I download a lot apps and games are the only ones with the big space , I was amazed the most 10 mb + in iPhone were only like 3mb in Android, so don't worry you'll be ok
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
A lot of the 4gb is the ROM and security features. Once we can install custom ROMs we will get a couple gigs back. I don't know why I just said that. A previous poster said that. LOL I fail at forums. ;P
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empiire said:
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
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+1 on this.
jj14 said:
Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
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It's internal in the sense that it is built inside the unit, but its more like a SSD setup. Another way to think about it is like the 16/32 you are talking about is a MicroSD and you can add a second MicroSD. I mean it's not, but for conceptual reasons, that is one way to understand it.
You are correct....however...this 1g is for sense...apps and memory management file and the 3vo has plenty unless you are going to load 600+ apps SD another user here does...600 hundred...my god...
I was a bit concerned at first coming from a Droid x. That thing was the king of space when it came out. I think apps to SD was just coming out then. Now almost all apps are s2d. I've got 50+ apps using 300mb on phone, a couple gigs app usage on SD. I don't think its an issue any more.
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What are the practical performance differences between the two configurations. I know more RAM is always better, but is it worth $100?
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Roger
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What are the practical performance differences between the two configurations. I know more RAM is always better, but is it worth $100?
Thanks,
Roger
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It isnt ram, its storage. All you 'gain' is more room to store apps, music, movies etc. The tablet as almost all honeycomb tablets come with 1 gig of ram. If you see yourself packing the tablets with movies/photos etc then yes the 32 gig one is worth it.
At $100 for a 16gb increase it is far less expensive to just add a $20 16gb microSD card to expand to 32gb from a 16gb model.
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At $100 for a 16gb increase it is far less expensive to just add a $20 16gb microSD card to expand to 32gb from a 16gb model.
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Probably is til Sony patches it (and i hope they do) the sd slot is basically just a file transfer/media storage rather then true storage.
And keep in mind that the 16GB version only offer 8.9GB of storage !
piflechien said:
And keep in mind that the 16GB version only offer 8.9GB of storage !
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that of course isnt counting the 3.8 gigs to install apps on
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Probably is til Sony patches it (and i hope they do) the sd slot is basically just a file transfer/media storage rather then true storage.
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with the correct 3rd party apps on the market you can use an sd card as true storage!!i got a 32gb sd card full of movies working with mx video player pro which you need for divx/xvid/avi movies anyway!! Got the card for £29.99 and its a class 10!
jkr284 said:
with the correct 3rd party apps on the market you can use an sd card as true storage!!i got a 32gb sd card full of movies working with mx video player pro which you need for divx/xvid/avi movies anyway!! Got the card for £29.99 and its a class 10!
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what app is it?
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what app is it?
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Well you can use File manager HD to look for and open files, or say if you have movies use MX Video Player. On both apps the sd card shows as sdcard2
Pretty much every single 3rd party none sony/asus/google/htc apps can play/view file directly from the SD card.
Only thing you need to know is that your SD card is located at:
/mnt/SDCard2/
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what app is it?
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I really hope you can gather data from SD card with stock music and video apps.
Like ken says 599 us dollars,
Get it my 32gb have 8gb left
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hi - could someone please explain the storage setup?
I swapped my 16GB Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a 16GB Sony and as mentioned previously, it only shows 8.92GB internal storage (USB) plus 3.94GB internal storage so that's approx 3GB for the OS and sample files!
I assume this is just the way Sony split up the 16GB?
On the Samsung it showed approx 15GB from new
Just trying to clarify....
thanks
AirwolfUK said:
I assume this is just the way Sony split up the 16GB?
On the Samsung it showed approx 15GB from new
Just trying to clarify....
thanks
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The storage is splitted between storage for application installation and data such as files, videos, photos, etc..
Hi All,
There seem to be several different Galaxy S III boards here so I just picked one at random (if it's the wrong place would somebody be good enough to move it to the correct place? Thanks)
I was in a phone shop here in the UK the other day asking about the SIII, and specifically the differences between the three types 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB the salesman said instead of getting one of the bigger ones, I should just get the 16GB model and buy a larger sd, I said that isn't how it worked, but he called another guy over who 100% agreed with him. Still not convinced I came home and had a quick sniff around on-line. This did not help clarify things, there seems to be just as much confusion out there.
Can I ask the experts here at XDA to give a definitave answer on this.
Thanks.
~S
Added later to clarify: I currently have a rooted HTC Desire with a 4GB a2sd partition. Even though the a2sd partition is practally empty the phone keeps complaining that I don't have enough space to install/update things. Although there are thing I want installed that aren't because of this it isn't a HUGE problem, but it's happening more and more as apps get bigger and bigger.
I'm not a big gamer (I pay some but not that frequently), I am a big app nut though. Yes 16GB is more than enough space for me right now, and I know there are options to move some files elsewhere, but if these options are as unreliable as a2sd am I going to be stuck for space again in 12 - 18 months time like I am now?
If you are not a gamer, 16gb model should fit well for daily usage.
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You can always use the mod internal2external by Mattiadj in developnent section. Root is required.
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Their is no definitive answer.
All depends upon what you want versus cost .
jje
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If u are a gamer and u don lik to root ur phone( love stock) thn u should go for 32 or 64gb..
If u are a gamer and u lik rooting then u can go for 16gb version +64gb SD card.
If u are a regualr user..without gaming..16gb is sufficient.
Well since the phone has an SD slot you really can just buy a 16GB phone and buy a 64GB SD card..
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You can only install apps on internal memory on the S3 also apps can also only use internal memory, which is why people said if you are a mobile gamer to get the 32 or 64GB version.
If you are just a normal user the 16GB will be absolutely fine, just use an sd card, I would say the store staff were half right, they probably don't know we can't install apps to sd.
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I best his confusing RAM with non-volatile storage...
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Game apps themselves don't use that much data, but it's the game data which can be massive. 9mm itself has about 2gb of data.
Game data can be moved to external storage so even if you are a gamer, 16gb is still good enough. I use 'gl to sd' from the play store which allows me to move data to the external card. There are other options as well, like 'directory bind'.
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Clarification.
Hi,
Just added this to the OP to (hopefully) clarify a little:
I currently have a rooted HTC Desire with a 4GB a2sd partition. Even though the a2sd partition is practically empty the phone keeps complaining that I don't have enough space to install/update things. Although there are thing I want installed that aren't because of this, it isn't a HUGE problem, but it's happening more and more as apps get bigger and bigger.
I'm not a big gamer (I play some but not that frequently), I am a big app nut though. Yes 16GB is more than enough space for me right now, and I know there are options to move some files elsewhere if needed, but if these options are as unreliable as a2sd am I going to be stuck for space again in 12 - 18 months time like I am now?
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Anybody want to add anything else?
Yes app2sd sucks a bit, I'm using something somehow similar, but more reliable (at least for my opinion)(also additional ext4 partition [20gb], but only mounted at /sdcard/Android to have the game data somewhere else and also because ext4 is way better for such big folders than messy fat32 or exfat).
But I would say go at least for the 32 gb, I'm not that heavy gamer, but I have some high-end games installed and the space is pretty tight at my 16gb device (if iwouldn't have put it to another place and also because I got some other stuff on it which I haven't moved yet).
Yes all is movable somehow, but why should you if you can get more space from the beginning.
16gb are for sure ok and I'm still happy with the device the same way i would with more internal, but I would have taken at least 32gb if it has been available when I bought the device.
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so this is the reason they have 16 and 32g models. lock app installs to physical storage so people don't buy large SD cards and rather buy the larger 32gb or 64gb models.
too bad i didn't know this or i would of bought the 32gb.. i figured i could get 16gb and use sd card for extra apps but based on reading it looks like it requires hacking or apps that make symlinks..
why bother putting an SD slot if they're going to restrict what you can put on it.
Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
Mystery? said:
Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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You might as well just use apps2sd
@ted619
No wonder my sister's 16GB Iphone 4S get's slow when she put too many apps on her phone. She will be back with android soon
ted619 said:
What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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I don't like apple devices as iOS is a locked operating system. Its like living in a communist country. I want more space for gaming as I am a gamer. Someone modded the Note II to do that, so I was wondering for the Amaze. I have bought many games on Google Play and I, in no way, want to spend twice for the same game on the iPod, plus Apple overprice their ridiculous products (I know Samsung does so, too, but at least they give more freedom and features).
One 2 GB game like NOVA 3, Modern Combat 3, Amazing Spiderman, or Dark Knight Rises will fill it up, then you are left with insufficient space.
I have found an experimental fix as idk if removing the external sd would crash the system:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874485
Not sure if this is what you're lookin for. But I've read THIS thread a while back. It's only for GameLoft games.
You won't be able to download it from the Play Store so you'll have to retrieve and install it manually but it still works.
I bought a 16GB Galaxy Mega, under the settings > more tab > storage it shows total space 16GB and under system storage shows 11.22GB being used. I don't have enough space anymore to install app updates. I have about 400MB free atm and it still says insufficient storage every time I try to update an app.
I read the 8GB should have about 4.8GB user accessible, that would make more sense, but I can't understand how my system storage is so huge. Any idea how to reduce it?
Thanks!!!
Yours must be the 8GB version like mine. Because I have a Hong Kong ROM the total space says 16GB even though it's actually 8GB. If I put a UK ROM on I'd get a very different reading. Does yours have native app2sd support like mine?
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waynester21 said:
Yours must be the 8GB version like mine. Because I have a Hong Kong ROM the total space says 16GB even though it's actually 8GB. If I put a UK ROM on I'd get a very different reading. Does yours have native app2sd support like mine?
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Oh no! I thought I bought a 16GB version and had a feeling something was wrong. I'm on a French Rom set to English and yes it supports app2sd.
When I goto application manager and sort by size, my biggest app is gallery with 1.2GB taking up space. I'm not sure why I see that because all of my gallery photos are on SD card. When I try to delete the data and disable the app I don't get that 1.2GB back, is it because those are auto generated thumbnail photos? I can't figure out where all that used space is going, because even if I add all my biggest apps together (not including the gallery) they take less than 1GB. If I have 2GB being used by my gallery and apps, where is the other 2GB being used? Do you have any ideas to free up space?
Does yours say 16GB on the box? Mine is an import from Spain and says 8GB on the box even though the phone reports back as 16GB.
Anyway, I'm not familiar with the French ROM at all. I'm sure if you flashed the Hong Kong ROM you'd get 4.9GB of space available like I did.
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I've got a 16gb I527m
16 GB total
System -4.06 32gb (bastards for counting this in the 16 GB)
Used -266 mb
Cache- 8mb
Miscellaneous - 290
11.39 GB free
You can compare that to yours.
That is phone internal storage, NOT memory for apps to run.
in your mud with my stick