The lag reports are true... - E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've had the Moto E for 3 months and the headaches started after two weeks. I had been using the HTC 510 for about a year, rooted with a great ROM. I was fine with the ****ty camera and display, but I loved how snappy it was and of course HTC sense. If I ever spend more than $100 on a phonePHONE again, it will be an HTC. My favorite phone I've had was the Droid Incredible 4g LTE, an HTC variant of Big Red's flagship.
Any who, the digitizer for the 510 was getting on my last nerves, so I scooped up the new Moto E at Boost for $50. Great price, but after two weeks I was wondering if it was refurbished. The lag with merely 3-4 basic apps open was staggering. I could soon forget about making a call or text while using navigation. The 3 second lag was unbearable. I did a factory reset yet nothing changed.
I have maybe 10 apps on this POS, banking apps, budget, etc. Nothing heavyweight. The best new development has been the lag on the dialer or even answering calls!
I just cleared the cache, we'll see if this helps.
I'm out of patience and ideas. I really wish I would have gotten the moto G.... My dad has the ZTE Speed, which we all know is vastly inferior, and his phone is refreshing when I pick it up.
I'm going to do the unthinkable next week if this doesn't improve. I'm going to get the iPhone 5s. That's right, I said it. Well, let me clarify: I work for sprint, I get it for $49, unlimited talk text data for 35, twelve month contract. Say what you want about ios/apple, but the 5s is a solid, well built phone

Duanomatic said:
I've had the Moto E for 3 months and the headaches started after two weeks. I had been using the HTC 510 for about a year, rooted with a great ROM. I was fine with the ****ty camera and display, but I loved how snappy it was and of course HTC sense. If I ever spend more than $100 on a phonePHONE again, it will be an HTC. My favorite phone I've had was the Droid Incredible 4g LTE, an HTC variant of Big Red's flagship.
Any who, the digitizer for the 510 was getting on my last nerves, so I scooped up the new Moto E at Boost for $50. Great price, but after two weeks I was wondering if it was refurbished. The lag with merely 3-4 basic apps open was staggering. I could soon forget about making a call or text while using navigation. The 3 second lag was unbearable. I did a factory reset yet nothing changed.
I have maybe 10 apps on this POS, banking apps, budget, etc. Nothing heavyweight. The best new development has been the lag on the dialer or even answering calls!
I just cleared the cache, we'll see if this helps.
I'm out of patience and ideas. I really wish I would have gotten the moto G.... My dad has the ZTE Speed, which we all know is vastly inferior, and his phone is refreshing when I pick it up.
I'm going to do the unthinkable next week if this doesn't improve. I'm going to get the iPhone 5s. That's right, I said it. Well, let me clarify: I work for sprint, I get it for $49, unlimited talk text data for 35, twelve month contract. Say what you want about ios/apple, but the 5s is a solid, well built phone
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Did you really just imply the iPhone 5s is better than the moto e (2015)?
It's several times the price of course it's better.
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I've been experiencing nonstop lag ever since I took it out of the box. Tried many different system utils and they only slow it down worse. I'm so tired of this. If I could root (stupid locked bootloader) if definitely drop most of the system apps. But unfortunately, it isn't possible yet.
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Yes, they're true. I have a xt1527 and I always had lag until I reflashed a different stock firmware (not the one that comes with the carrier). After that, I used it a couple of weeks and lag started again. I'm unsure what could cause it but reflashing everything solves it.
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Well I can confirm. The issue with this phone is 5.0 which is horrible, 4.4.4 would make this phone fly.

i have been oke with my XT 1527 , yea at the begining there was some lag but since im still using the stock rom and i have xposed i downloaded a module called "Fix Lillipop Memory Leak" and that made the phone fly. There are other memory leak problems in LP but that module succesfully fixes one of the most important ones. Of course i will flash a ROM later but first i wanna make sure there is xposed support for 5.1 and the ROM is stable because right now they have alot of bugs .

ok. So I'm not the only one experiencing unacceptable lag time on the stock rom. I'm on 5.1 and it's running slower than my dad's iPhone 4, which was released in 2010, for the record. I'm seriously considering getting another iPhone 4 although that'll mean losing a number of things. But considering that I'll gain acceptable response times for something as basic as the dialer, I think I'll manage.

I don't know what kind of moto e you guys because mine is just fine and really faster (AOSP with Belive Kernel) So, maybe is an app, videogame or something like that because i don't feel lag at all

I'm using the Virgin Mobile Moto E, and I have a bit of lag on occasions, but not much. Keep in mind, my expectations are low. After using higher end, dev friendly devices for years (Nexus 4, G2, OPO), I experimented with some very basic FreedomPop phones (LG Viper, ZTE Force), but finally gave up.
My only issue with the Moto E is that 1 GB of RAM does not seem to be enough for Lollipop. Specifically the issue is when I'm driving. I have the phone connected via Bluetooth, which activates Car Dashdroid, and I have Waze and a music app running as well. With the Viper on 4.0.4 and the Force on 4.1.2, this would work, though at times be laggy. With the Moto E, there isn't much lag, but the phone can't seem to run all 3 at once, as it'll kill music (doesn't matter the app, I've tried Google Play, Pandora, and Spotify) if Waze is in the foreground, and kill Waze if the music is in the background. Sometimes its fine if I swipe away all the other apps beforehand, but even then I might have to restart music or Waze a couple of times.

I own this phone for less than a week and is slow to be frightening.
Chrome crashes almost always, the keyboard loses touch and is slow.
Using a micro sd 8gb formatted as internal storage and I moved all apps on it.
I disabled some apps and installed the necessary (twitter, telegram, netflix, spotify, whatsapp, postepay, shazam, coc, amazon, az sr, PicSay, my vodafone, safeincloud, google translate)

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DNA or Moto X - your thoughts?

Like a lot of you, I'm hanging onto unlimited data. My Galaxy Nexus' power button is losing elasticity, and its only a matter of time before the power button or the charging port die on me.
...and now is an interesting time to be on the market for a new phone.
I like the DNA over the X because of the look (I fell for the original Droid Incredible), water resistance, and antenna (it had full bars in my Verizon store when the S4, iPhone 5 and RAZRs had 2-3 bars).
I don't like the non-removable battery (I think I'll have to suck that up, really no new phones have that) or the 16GB of storage. On that note, how much of that is actually usable?
It's actually kind of a catch 22, I insist on at least 32 GB (like my Nexus), yet nothing is or has really ever been on my Nexus in terms of music or other media. I have a Mac so syncing has been.... Well not with HTC Sync if I get this phone.
I like the X in that it's always listening, that's badass, I think we can all agree on that. The downside I suppose is the locked boot loader (looking at $650 at least for the Developer Edition), and at present, no root or unlock method. You probably know how Motorola is.
I'm leaning towards the DNA (does it have 4.3 in the form of a custom ROM), partially because I want something that will get updates (officially or no) for years to come... I thought my Nexus would fit the bill there, but it just wasn't made to last, and it's lagging in 4.2.2 and 4.3... Not to mention the 5 MP shooter....
Anyway, thoughts on this, and used vs. new for the DNA (I'm thinking used since the screen apparently scratches easily and the phone in general just gets damaged easily...right?). Seems like new they're overpriced on eBay ($450+).
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Not owning an X, so I'm biased, but the DNA is a fantastic phone. There are tons of custom ROMs, CM appears to have a maintainer so official status is coming.
The battery isn't that big of deal... Depending on ROM and setup, you can squeeze decent time out of it. There is 11GB usable, but I use the cloud for everything so I barely touch the limit. I pretty much keep it open for games.
Hope this helps a bit.
Some people have managed to do an upgrade to the Moto X using the Edge plan and still keep unlimited data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423121
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If your buying cash get the DNA and try it out. They ought to be cheap on CL, I've seen them as low as $175.
I paid $325 for a NIB about three months ago.
It's still a good phone. We're about to get 4.3 officially which will be a great base for custom ROMs and when the One gets around to 4.4 that'll probably be portable as well.
I don't see there being big issues with the DNA degrading in performance since the specs are similar to the MotoX,we are pushing more pixels though.
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, like I did, it'll be a fantastic step and you might find you like Sense5. I love it!
DO NOT GET ANYTHING ON EDGE! It is a smoking hot rip-off of biblical proportions!

Apologies for typical "should I buy" thread

Sorry I know if everyone asked these general questions about what to buy the forums would be flooded. Hopefully posting in the general section I'm not getting in the way of any important development threads or anything. I wouldn't ask if I weren't really struggling with some indecision here.
I'm a Verizon customer, still have unlimited. Using a Droid Bionic with Carbon Rom. I'm planning to buy at full retail price to leave my data plan in tact.
LG wasn't really even on my radar. HTC One was originally what caught my eye for the styling and great reviews, then the new wave of Droids came out, and now the G2. I think I'm fairly decided in terms of currently available devices and don't need help there, I would get the G2 if it came down to what's on store shelves right now. I've seen comments on the HTC One camera ranging from amazing to garbage, and not sure I would like Blinkfeed. The One speakers would be nice but can't say I really need internal audio from my phone that much. Doesn't sound like the Droid Maxx battery is really thrilling anyone, plus with upgrading at full retail price it kinda isn't all that interesting to jump from one Moto Droid to another, it'll just feel like a differently shaped Bionic. Moto X seems interesting everyone keeps saying it's the best all around form factor and the most refined that an Android device has ever felt, but I think I'm ready for a bigger screen and battery.
I'm more a bit hesitant that I'll get the G2 and then the Nexus 5 or Note 3 is going to be amazing. Although I'm well aware of the crop of Nexus 5 rumors, apparently not having Verizon's LTE band (then counteracted by a newer rumor saying there may have been an FCC filing for a separate Verizon LG device that wasn't the G2 and could be their variant of the Nexus 5). Plus a rumored smaller battery for the Nexus compared to the G2 which would lower my interest in it. Note 3... I'm not really dying to own my first Samsung but it seems it might outdo the G2 in a few ways, more Ram, SD card slot, etc. Obviously anything compared to the Bionic I have will seem nice, 32GB (or the 20-whatever that's actually available after system install) on the G2 will be plenty, I am used to working with the 16gb I have on my Bionic and am used to having to send stuff to my PC harddrive if my phone gets too full.
I've owned LG in my cell phone history, had an LG Dare and then an Ally for my first Android phone. Their hardware is alright but if I recall correctly they are pretty iffy about timely updates and then just stop supporting devices once they hit a certain age. But then Motorola pulled the same stunt during my Bionic ownership and most of you will know about how long it took Bionic to get system updates. I don't think I ever really saw myself going back to LG as I've felt the same indifference towards them as the rest of the community for a while now, although it kinda says something about them that they're still good enough to keep getting contracted for the Nexus devices. And then this G2 landed on my radar out of nowhere.
G2 camera sounds great with a few reviews sprinkled in that suddenly didn't think it was all that amazing, but I take pictures like crazy, camera is important, I think I may even sell my Sony Nex 3 full size camera as a way to help pay for a phone upgrade, the big camera just sits here and collects dust when I can have a camera in my pocket all day in a phone.
Important aspects to me, battery life (sick of charging my Bionic constantly, I think my extended battery is wearing out because I can just watch the percentage drop like a rock as I use it), quality display would be nice after settling for the Bionic with it's blah pentile screen, camera as I mentioned above, other than that I browse, text message, need Tethering, and use Pandora in my car. And I do care about developer support, I like messing with Roms, but if the factory Rom is decent once you get it set up, I can live with not having as large of a dev community as S4 might have or whatever. So yeah with that said it seems like a no brainer saying display-battery-camera, G2 sounds to be the best at all of that right now, I'm just worried about what else is coming out this holiday season. I know the Nexus announcement is rumored for next month but I just hate to wait just to find out it's not coming to Verizon or is definitely going to have some lame 2300mah battery. You know how it is when you're ready to upgrade...
-I suppose we'd all be guessing, but how good are people feeling about the G2 getting a KitKat update in a reasonable time window? This is the LG flagship so I would hope for good support, but the LG skin and addons are so overwhelming and heavily skinned devices always take longer to get their updates out. I'd be thrilled to get this phone but that would quickly turn to disappointment if we're waiting for 4.4 longer than anyone else.
-How is developer support looking? Have any big names pledged to add the G2 to their supported devices? I really like Carbon Rom on Bionic. I suppose it's a good sign that root and loki happened right away but so far Rom releases, especially for VZW, looks slow.
-Speaking of ROMs, do we have any idea if any of the stock stuff like knock-on etc will ever be able to be pulled and applied to a custom ROM, or is it pretty much a guarantee that if you switch to anything but stock you're going to be sacrificing a lot of the factory features?
-I noticed the G2 doesn't even come up on the Top Devices window at the first XDA forum portal, is that a bad sign for community interest in the device? HTC One, Note 3, etc all show up as the top devices on XDA right now. Is there a community behind this device or not really? Does everyone dig the specs but shy away from LG with their heavy skin?
-It WiFi tethering working with the current root exploit? I use my Bionic as my home internet access, on the stock ROM it seems like FoxFi will stop working after a couple of days like it's detecting that I'm tethering, on Carbon ROM I can tether for gig after gig of data and no issue.
-I've seen more than one person gripe about thermal throttling and the G2 starting to run like utter garbage in certain conditions. That would certainly suck to spend 600 on. Is this widespread?
I don't think I'd regret buying it immediately but I see the potential that only a few weeks into ownership the "oh crap why did I go with LG" feeling will start.
For the awesome specs...yes. Its a great deal for what you get. I don't know if tethering is working yet but I do know pda net works. Top be honest with my wife and I we were concerned about going share everything but I got a music unlimited service for 50 a year and downloaded everything instead of streaming. We went from using 6+ gb a month to under 2. And almost all the music is ultra high quality which works perfect with the 24 bit DAC. I stopped using Pandora because of this...I can skip all I want no commercials and choose weekday I want. I am very happy with the lg UI MINUS the giant size. So fast there had been a fantastic dev community modding the stock rom. Coming from a GNex I am ecstatic to get TWRP already. I wouldn't be too sure that anything coming out from Samsung will be crackle since the S4 is locked down now. Battery is about 9-10 hours of straight screen and 24+ with normal usage including hours on and off of heavy use. The only thing I don't like is the weak out of the box speaker but they have already modded ATT gain to make it better. The Btooth audio and head phone quality makes for this Times a million. I don't see anything else coming close unless you are Andre the Giant and like the phablet Note type. The one is bigger with a smaller washed out color LCD. The speakers rock but it's not worth the lack of general power. Grey a quick window case it's s fantastic.
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Wow. There's about 5 minutes I can't get back.
Nexus5 will most likely never hit Verizon.
Big name devs? This phone is like a week old. Time will tell.
Wi-Fi tethering not currently working.
Buy it. If you don't like it inside of 14 days, return it. By that time, news of the nexus 5 should be out.
Thank you Devs. From my LG G2.
Wifi tether wasn't working on the S4 or One, I just had both phones on Sprint and T-Mobile with various roms and kernels. The only other phone I considered was the Note 3 but I can't stand the home button, would have liked the extra real estate but the G2 is still manageable for me to use one handed and a stylus would have been wasted on me.
This phone doesn't even need roms tbh.
I'd buy this phone all over again. No other phone feels like this one a atm.
LG G2
I was following every phone to come down the pipe for the last six months or more. I had an LG Nitro HD for my last phone and my first was the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. The nitro was terrible. The only time that phone ran right was on stock gingerbread. The development was fairly slow and the community small because it was att only and wasn't popular at that. I was about as put off by LG as they come.
Two days ago, I bought the G2, and I absolutely love it. The battery life really is phenomenal. I say this because it had kept up with my initial high usage love for a new phone. I plugged in last night with 34% left after having almost six hours of screen on time at 80% brightness. The note 3 might be great,but then again it might not. Only 100mah larger battery with a .5in larger screen concerns me a bit. The processor is already insane in the G2 so that will likely not make a difference for a bit. The ram shouldn't be an issue for at least an upgrade cycle at minimum.
Honestly, the biggest difference between this and the nexus is battery and screen. Nexus is 5 in and only had 2300mah so unless Kit Kat has major battery improvements that phone was no longer a option for me. The tipping point for this phone over the moto x in my case? Development and community. This phone already has a larger forum Than the moto x. That's not the only determinant but helps significantly. Go check the nitro forum, this phone is already almost as large... this phone had root on day one I think it was and boot loader bypass within a week of launch. And a Rom 2days later. It may not be as fast some devices but that is still damn fast. Will this be a great dev phone? Too early to tell but it looks promising. And with the nexus being nearly identical hardware wise, that could help too.
Hope that helps.
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HTC [Q]ONE X+ - usage problems and dissapointment

Dear dear dear people,
I must have registered here, in Mekka of smart people, cause of last reasons.
I've just bought a brand new HTC ONE X+, I've been gathering money for it for some period of time.
Moreover I'm a huge fan of HTC devices, because before this pfone I had HTC ONE V, HTC DESIRE X, HTC ONE SV (+ 2 more)
BUT when I got this phone Im continously like a WTF WTF WTF, and Im still looking for my fallen jaw.
I never said even one bad word on HTC devices, but I cant understand whats going on with this crappy HTC ONE X+.
Firstly I've been complaining about battery life on my polish android forum and that I've made 5 minutes of calling, 5 sms sent, 0 gaming and 10 minutes of surfing on the net and the phone was capable to stand 11 hours in this usage, BUT i said OK I can handle this !
But also from very beginning I was strong complaining that telephone is very laggish, first ICS was installed and transistions between screens (or desktops) werent smooth at all. Next I upgraded to 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 and still some frames lagging in simple activities, in phonebook, contacts, messaging etc.
Now, the thing which killed me and threw my balls out of the window was when I installed games like ShadowGun and Subway Surfers.
Every phone which I had before wasnt so crappy lagging like this one ! I was playing SS on desire X and ONE SV SUPER SMOOTHLYa nd this phone has quadcore 1.7 GHZ and cant handle such simple game ? Its not unplayable but its far away from smooth and fluent playing...
Damn Im really frightened cause of all this... First time I was considering buying LG Optimus G but Ive chosen this as I have always had HTC devices.
Can some intelligent person explain me whats happening, am i doing sth wrong ? or Im sentenced on always lagging simple games ? So where's that quadcore Nvidia Tegra 1.7 advantages ? Beacuse cmparing simple usage this phone is far behind much older HTC phones.
Now after a week Im thinking about selling this phone
ehhhhhh.....
Paul
Keep power saver mode on at all times. I keep it on even when I play games and it does not lag at all. As another user on this forum said, that option should actually be reversed, as in to keep the phone using only one CPU core at all times, and activate all of them using "Performance Mode".
Are you 100% sure your phone is HTC original? (if it was bought from a well-known retailer that wouldn't be a problem)
Check the IMEI and SN on http://sndeep.info.
Also, go to www.whatismyscreenresolution.com and check if the reported resolution is 1280x720. (most fakes can look, feel and perform almost like the original, but they don't have the exact resolution).
If you don't have any apps running and it still lags, even without power saver (although it shouldn't either way), i'd recommend to return it to the shop, it might be defective.
It is a great phone, I would not change it for anything except the One.
AFAIK the lag in non-tegra/easy cpu-loading games should have been fixed on android 4.2.2, it is related to the tegra SoC scaling the gpu only with the cpu, so if the cpu load is not high enought the gpu power is also smaller, but as fara as I have read most people said it was not happening anymore after the 4.2.2 update.
Also are you sure you are on the ONE X+ and not ONE X or a fake X+, cause the ONE X+ comes with android 4.1.2 JellyBean and not with ICS (android 4.0.x).
I changed mine for a brand new Nexus 4. Best desition I made in terms of mobile technology.
I owned the hox+ for a while, tried android revolution, cm, slim rom and finally I felt in love for aokp.
But the lag and embarrassment still there.
The material quality of the hox+ is by far superior, but the Nexus 4 performance is incredible.
I was really disappointed too, considering the Nexus 4 is older than the hox+.
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Hey again,
Thank you very much guys for participating in this topic, I appreciate it.
@thecybo - I've checked the sites youn recommended me and everything is OK, the sites show me it is original ONE X+ and the screen is also OK.
Yeah guys my telephone comes from a big retailer in my country so no doubt its original. It was bought as a BRAND NEW.
Honestly i truly cant believe that a brand new phone can have malfunction or something, I've never had such situation before.
When I first took the phone in my hands there was installed ICS or JB, I'm not sure because I didnt checked it. I just fastly upgraded it to newest software as I wanted check the new Sense 5. So before I upgraded it there were some microlags just from time to time, but even that I was like a "huh ?" In this phone class its unexectable for me. And because of fact that I've loved this phone so much (for design, specifications etc) its even sadder for me. Damnnn....I wanted this phone soo much and now I'm quite dissapointed.
Guys, Im not game type of person but in that situation Ive decided to test some games and see how telephone will handle them and here are the results:
1. Shadowgun: deadzone - medium lags, bigger than on my old HTC ONE SV
2. Real Racing 3 - hmmm I think the game works smoothly, just a small lag from time to time
3. Dead Trigger 2 - this game works the smoothest among all games in my phone; it works great
4. Modern Combat 4 - nice and OK
5. Iron Man 3 - games works weakly, very weakly
6. Asphalt 8 - almost unplayable
When I turned off Asphalt 8 the phone was hugly lagging for 3-4 seconds.
When I was playing these games, the battery consumption was like 1% per minute. Quite big I think.
Guys, can you confrote these with your usage ? Also when I use youtube, internet, facebook then IMHO its not as smooth as it should be.
Damn, Im confused right now, dont know really what to do, Im considering selling this phone (thanks Davirus849 for that Nexus 4 mention, I think I would choose his nearest brother LG Optimus G).
But HONESTLY comparing HTC with LG is like a "pffff" to me, but I think I have no choice now. Ehhhh
It shouldn't behave as you describe. There may be some corrupt user data somewhere particularly considering you have upgraded the OS. Many experienced Android users recommend a factory reset after a system upgrade as there can occasionally be a compatibility issue. These can manifest themselves as lags or poor battery life.
I would recommend you try a factory reset which will wipe all user data. Remember to back up anything you need (contacts, sms messages) first.
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Y u do dis?
HedPlanet said:
Dear dear dear people,
I must have registered here, in Mekka of smart people, cause of last reasons.
I've just bought a brand new HTC ONE X+, I've been gathering money for it for some period of time.
Moreover I'm a huge fan of HTC devices, because before this pfone I had HTC ONE V, HTC DESIRE X, HTC ONE SV (+ 2 more)
BUT when I got this phone Im continously like a WTF WTF WTF, and Im still looking for my fallen jaw.
I never said even one bad word on HTC devices, but I cant understand whats going on with this crappy HTC ONE X+.
Firstly I've been complaining about battery life on my polish android forum and that I've made 5 minutes of calling, 5 sms sent, 0 gaming and 10 minutes of surfing on the net and the phone was capable to stand 11 hours in this usage, BUT i said OK I can handle this !
But also from very beginning I was strong complaining that telephone is very laggish, first ICS was installed and transistions between screens (or desktops) werent smooth at all. Next I upgraded to 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 and still some frames lagging in simple activities, in phonebook, contacts, messaging etc.
Now, the thing which killed me and threw my balls out of the window was when I installed games like ShadowGun and Subway Surfers.
Every phone which I had before wasnt so crappy lagging like this one ! I was playing SS on desire X and ONE SV SUPER SMOOTHLYa nd this phone has quadcore 1.7 GHZ and cant handle such simple game ? Its not unplayable but its far away from smooth and fluent playing...
Damn Im really frightened cause of all this... First time I was considering buying LG Optimus G but Ive chosen this as I have always had HTC devices.
Can some intelligent person explain me whats happening, am i doing sth wrong ? or Im sentenced on always lagging simple games ? So where's that quadcore Nvidia Tegra 1.7 advantages ? Beacuse cmparing simple usage this phone is far behind much older HTC phones.
Now after a week Im thinking about selling this phone
ehhhhhh.....
Paul
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You just bought a One X+ now? WHY?! The One is newer and superior in every way, and most carriers have stopped supporting this phone for a while now. Why you would think to get a "new" phone that is already about a year old is beyond me. You should have gotten a One or waited for the new M8 (Current One successor).
Moynia said:
You just bought a One X+ now? WHY?! The One is newer and superior in every way, and most carriers have stopped supporting this phone for a while now. Why you would think to get a "new" phone that is already about a year old is beyond me. You should have gotten a One or waited for the new M8 (Current One successor).
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The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
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AndroHero said:
The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
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In my case, I bought the one x+ in march, just when the latest ONE was launched. If you ask me WHYYYEEE?
Well mate, non removable battery is one thing, but limiting the storage for a high end smartphone is just unacceptable for my wallet! When travelling a lot and 3g not being sufficient + 4g not being deployed everywhere, people need storage. Not only for media consumption but for apps too. I have 25gb of apps installed, (tomtom + navigon anyone, each of them serving in different case scenarios). Add to that my emulator roms + multimedia + the pictures i take and there you have it.
Never have I been able to go below 48gb of used memory out of 64gb (knowing that the one x+ has only 57gb user accessible memory).
I harrassed htc at the time about the availability of the 64gb version of the ONE by mail, phone, Facebook and twitter. The only reason I could get is "selected market" and s#!t.
So where was this damn 64gb version available? 1 carrier exclusive in the US, the developper edition (also us), the removable back model for japan with a sim slot + sd slot and another one with 2 sim slots + 1sd slot (one for china at launch and the other recently announced for the UK).
There you have it, when you buy htc since 2007 and you need a phone that can manage, you don't buy the One, but the one x instead. Sadly, my experience is the same as the OP's (lags and whatever).
My guess, we can blame the processor + unoptimized apps + Google "core" apps updates which get heavyer each time (nothing changed in my usage but the phone lags more overtime no matter how many factory resets I did).
Also, the battery does NOT deliver and there's nothing around it!!! Seriously, even 2d games make the phone get hot as hell and drain the ***** out of juice in no time, 1% of battery per minute doesn't even begin to cover it.
AndroHero said:
The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk
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Even still there are many good cheap android phones that you can buy new such as the Moto X and Moto G, and there are older phones that receive more love like the S3.
I got my One X + yesterday.
Been at it today reading on Rooting to make my attempt later, as well as installing apps.
My first impression, it seems to be quite quick, I'm upgrading from HTC Doubleshot (myTouch 4G Slide) and iPhone 4s.
Free RAM seems to be quite low stock, I have about the same free RAM as in the mt4gs. Not much of a mobile game player, the mt4gs handled everything fine especially with the oc (had to remove the original battery cover and use the case cover instead to get rid of some of the heat) including probably the most hungry game I've played which is Need For Speed Most Wanted.
I would be disappointed a bit if the One X+ doesn't perform as well at that. Or lags alot.
I was installing apps on battery *all* day. Where I expected I would have to plug in at some point, the battery is now 63% it was about 76% when I unpacked it. Battery seems to be pleasing for me.
I would have stayed with the mt4gs if I didn't have charging port (battery read /reporting) issues which I will repair as soon as I get the time.
So far though I'm happy with it.
I hope OP get's issues resolved.
PangOS said:
I got my One X + yesterday.
Been at it today reading on Rooting to make my attempt later, as well as installing apps.
My first impression, it seems to be quite quick, I'm upgrading from HTC Doubleshot (myTouch 4G Slide) and iPhone 4s.
Free RAM seems to be quite low stock, I have about the same free RAM as in the mt4gs. Not much of a mobile game player, the mt4gs handled everything fine especially with the oc (had to remove the original battery cover and use the case cover instead to get rid of some of the heat) including probably the most hungry game I've played which is Need For Speed Most Wanted.
I would be disappointed a bit if the One X+ doesn't perform as well at that. Or lags alot.
I was installing apps on battery *all* day. Where I expected I would have to plug in at some point, the battery is now 63% it was about 76% when I unpacked it. Battery seems to be pleasing for me.
I would have stayed with the mt4gs if I didn't have charging port (battery read /reporting) issues which I will repair as soon as I get the time.
So far though I'm happy with it.
I hope OP get's issues resolved.
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Ram can get low, but there are custom kernels which allow you to use some space of your regular memory as ram, but I have not tried that out cause I got a Rom with Sense5 (custom kernels are only available for stock rom or roms with sense 4+, so think twice before updating it.
Playing games is not really my thing, but I noticed that it has quite many fps drops in apps which actually don't require that much power (like Rayman jungle run). That's why I have to change my cpu settings to performance (it's an option in the tweaks of the ViperX+ rom, dunno how to do this on stock). The phone also gets pretty hot, especially when charging it + using it at the same time.
Nevertheless I'm very happy with the OneX+ and I hope you willbe the same
I would hate to go through a factory reset again but I'm getting a bit disappointed myself now. I find the phone does lag a lot and behaves weirdly like slow WiFi connections. Every other device I use magicjack and the calls are good. With the one x + it sounds like a really slow connection. When streaming videos it pauses for buffering like every 10 seconds or so. Only device I experience this with.
I will do as suggested and backup my stuff and do the wipe. Also interested in trying that custom kernel.
Frustrated at this point.
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Tazmaniiac said:
Ram can get low, but there are custom kernels which allow you to use some space of your regular memory as ram, but I have not tried that out cause I got a Rom with Sense5 (custom kernels are only available for stock rom or roms with sense 4+, so think twice before updating it.
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Nevertheless I'm very happy with the OneX+ and I hope you willbe the same
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Oy. Where can I find such a kernel for my stock Rom with sense 4+ ?
After very tiring searching I only ended up being very confused. All I could come across were ones for sense 5 and others I just can't find links for.
I feel really retarded
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Hi, I bought my HOX+ from a friend a couple of months ago. If you ask why, Because she needed the money and sold it for a very cheap price, not to mention it is still under warranty.
When I got the phone it is already running on 4.2.2 Stock rom and so far it runs pretty smooth
What I like about HOX+ is its solid build, the beats audio and its UI which is better than my previous S3.
I also play games (Injustice, asphalt 8, clash of clans, etc) and so far I never experienced any lags even on power saving mode.
Two things I didn't like about it is the overheating issues (which I never experienced with iphone 4 and S3) and poor battery life.
I'm planning to send it over to HTC regarding the issues but I heard (here in our country) that they have very crappy service. Right now I'm thinking of rooting it instead.
Anyway I hope OP's HOX+ should be fixed soon
PangOS said:
Oy. Where can I find such a kernel for my stock Rom with sense 4+ ?
After very tiring searching I only ended up being very confused. All I could come across were ones for sense 5 and others I just can't find links for.
I feel really retarded
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I'm sorry for you but I can't find the thread anymore, only the one for Sense 5 (Android 4.2.x)
EliteKernel OXP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012320
To the time where I wrote my reply there was a Sense 4+ version of the kernel, but I think the old thread got deleted by the time Nik3r
released the newer kernel.
Just as an update, I installed MagioROM R1.1 on Sunday. It was easier to do the update than many other tasks that are usually performed on the phone.
As I expected, it turned into an amazing, awesome device. All issues were resolved! Definitely have my donation & seriously the manufacturers should have these guys putting together these devices.
After installing I noticed an update was
Released probably at the same time I was installing. I grabbed that too. Perfect!
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What's your opinion of the Umi Z Pro???

I just had my Moto g4 plus 64 stolen, I've used Moto G' for a few years now and they're brilliant, running stock android and no need to root.
I just ordered an unique z pro from eBay after watching a few YouTube reviews who all thought the phone was brilliant, now after looking on this forum there are a few saying do not buy.
If you have one, are you happy with it with official software? (I don't plan on routing a new phone)
I haven't receive it yet and am beginning to regret the purchase so it may have to go back!
I was looking at the Moto Z play but this is £130 cheeper.
I received mine from Gearbest five days ago. I also read all forum topics and was skeptic about the phone, even thou made a video of unpacking it.
First of all - the phone is absolutely brilliant - I have NONE of all problems people talking here: battery life is good - more than 5 hours with display switched on, apps orientation is fine, display is perfect - no scratches or anything else, my SD card working just perfect.
I got the phone with V3.01_20170321 ROM, 2 days ago it receives the v.3.01_20170408 as OTA update - NO problems at all.
Charging is slow, even using standard charger (I usually charge my phones while they are connected to PC).
Sound of the speakers is gorgeous, loud enough.
The phone is using pure Android which is good.
The camera is simply outstanding.
Also NO problems with Wi-Fi or 4G(LTE) - in my country Bulgaria all mobile operators are using 1800MHz for 4G. The coverage and the signal is on a maximum level.
For the money I've paid - this phone is super!
Thanks, have you got a link to your video?
I didn't upload it. The video is for my personal use - in case something wasn't OK when I got it, it would be easier to claim for money back or replace the phone.
More or less I can report the same. So far after a week, I have no hardware or software issue with the phone. Seems to be working as advertised. The only issue I had was with a few applications which simply refuse to run, but I didn't dig further to see why they FC. If intending to run it with no root and unmodified they it should be perfectly fine. Even though the os is AOSP based, I'd still prefer to have the possibility to run anything I'd like, such as Lineage for example. When it comes to charging, Im not sure what should be classified as slow or fast, but I think the phone charges in about an hour if I'm not mistaken. And one thing I'd like to see improved is the final quality of photos, since in the preview everything seems sharp and detailed but the captured photos seem somewhat pixelated for my taste but on the other hand I haven't explored that much the settings. In general it appears to be a good phone.
I have my Phone since a Week.
Very good sound
Good screen(thank's to Sharp! Real good Japanese quality)
The hardware is perfect
I received the Phone with V 3.01_20170321
I had some problems with the OTA Update 3.01_20170408:
- had to reset and recalibrate the gravity and compass sensors. Easy to do
- I had more problems with the radio 3G/4G. It lost a lot of times the GPRS connections and the modem had very big difficulties to reconnect it back on network. I can partially understand, my provider share his networks and frequencies with an other provider. But no excuse for Umi(digi ) i had never problems with other phones. Umi have to follow clearly the established protocols and do more tests !!
I reinstalled the firmware with flashtool with full formating. Since, it seems ok.
In all cases, I'll waiting a few days before I authorize the upgrade on Nougat(as soon it coming )
Some good non-sponsored reviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UAkAU02cU&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Bxa2Sy9Ck
I think those cover the bases pretty well.
One note is that the wifi radio is worse than my nexus 4 which is pretty sad. Wifi is really important.
Overall I'm happy with my $234 phone but it's definitely not the 'best budget phone.'
Disappointed with the Camera
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
Jhadial said:
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
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4G works just fine so it's supported
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I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
Just ordered...GearBest just shipped it from EUwarehouse to replace my worn down S4active
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chebsy said:
I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
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Cough cough 7.1.1 cough
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I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
ZeroZorro said:
Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
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Mx player works fine and pro version try the free version and see if same issue exists
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marco.deluxe said:
I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
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umi super user here. would you say that the Z pro is a good and worthy step over the super or are the differences too small to upgrade?
Same with the free version of MXplayer
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ZeroZorro said:
Same with the free version of MXplayer
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Must be a bug when does this happen
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Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
ZeroZorro said:
Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
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Does it happen on the beta version?
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Realme 7 Pro Performance issues.

Hi all, after using for 3 years my trusty Moto G5 plus decided to purchase 7 pro, UK version, using it for a week now. My first Realme phone, good specs. for a mid ranger, was very excited and it ticks all the right boxes for my daily use but there is one, my opinion major issue and Realme needs to address it. All the same apps downloaded to the new phone as I was using in my Moto phone, from day one I have occasional and completely random hang-ups of the phone, it can be any random action, browsing through the settings, opening any random app, once it froze on me even during phone unlock. It becomes completely unusable for about 30 seconds or more, cannot go back or go to the home screen, it just completely locks up. And of course I tried restarting the phone, clearing recent apps, I even re-installed latest build update file from Realme website (RMX2170EU_11_A.26). I also ran benchmark apps like Antutu and Geekbench 5, getting similar results as other user tests.
No difference. It happens every day and it can happen more than once, all random. With much higher specs than my old Moto phone (8GB RAM vs 4GB on Moto, faster CPU, Android 10 vs Oreo...) I did not expect that at all and I think it is not acceptable for this behavior for a brand new phone.
I am thinking of returning the phone unless someone out there has a solution for this, I would really appreciate it as otherwise I like the phone an I would like to keep it. Thanks.
Looks like some unoptimized app is causing lag in background, check assecibility service disable which you don't use. Check battery what are the apps draining
Visma_2011 said:
Hi all, after using for 3 years my trusty Moto G5 plus decided to purchase 7 pro, UK version, using it for a week now. My first Realme phone, good specs. for a mid ranger, was very excited and it ticks all the right boxes for my daily use but there is one, my opinion major issue and Realme needs to address it. All the same apps downloaded to the new phone as I was using in my Moto phone, from day one I have occasional and completely random hang-ups of the phone, it can be any random action, browsing through the settings, opening any random app, once it froze on me even during phone unlock. It becomes completely unusable for about 30 seconds or more, cannot go back or go to the home screen, it just completely locks up. And of course I tried restarting the phone, clearing recent apps, I even re-installed latest build update file from Realme website (RMX2170EU_11_A.26). I also ran benchmark apps like Antutu and Geekbench 5, getting similar results as other user tests.
No difference. It happens every day and it can happen more than once, all random. With much higher specs than my old Moto phone (8GB RAM vs 4GB on Moto, faster CPU, Android 10 vs Oreo...) I did not expect that at all and I think it is not acceptable for this behavior for a brand new phone.
I am thinking of returning the phone unless someone out there has a solution for this, I would really appreciate it as otherwise I like the phone an I would like to keep it. Thanks.
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Hi Visma_2011, did you manage to figure out what caused the issue on your phone? I'm having similar issues with my Realme 7 Pro. And I also migrated all my apps from my previous phone so it is difficult to know exactly which one might be the culprit, if any.
Curious to know if you had your issues resolved.
Hello PakkaZA,
Sorry to hear that, I really wanted to like the Realme phone, and I did like most of the things about it, I would have used it for two or three years but no matter what I've tried, nothing worked and I eventually I gave up and sent the phone back to Amazon for a refund.
Went back to using Moto phone ,not the old one but bough myself a Moto G 5G plus. It has a better chip set (Snapdragon 765), but I think the main reason Realme kept locking up because of their clunky UI, Moto phones are near stock (Vanilla) android and very little of their own gestures and stuff, of which I am a big fan and never had an issue with freezing so far. And I am using same apps as before....I am just surprised that very little users have similar experience as us, it might be that only some phones are somewhat faulty?
Hopefully you will a solution. Good luck .
I have the same issue as you, for me when phone does apps updates through google play store, the phone hang up. my model is the indian Realme 7 PRO with android 10

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