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Beelink/ROOFULL UBOX S812 ANDROID TV BOX
I am taking a long and pretty hard look at the latest generation of what is colloquially termed as TV Sticks AKA Smart Media Players. Before we get there, lets take a short history lesson to put us all in perspective.
TV STICK EVOLUTION -
The first generation pretty much consisted of devices based either around Arm Cortex-A9 or Amlogic's A9 processor. Those were single core and started typically with Android ICS (4.0.4) @1 GHz. They carried a small form factor, typically looking like a slightly larger USB drive. Tronsmart and Favi are among many some or little known manufacturers. Connectivity wise these typically only had Wireless connection and sometimes Bluetooth.
Then came second generation from the same manufacturers. Those are typically dual core devices with Cortex-A9 Dual core @1.5 GHz. Bluetooth is more common among these devices and so is RJ45 LAN Connector port. However this is led to a slightly larger form factor. MK808 based on Rocketchip RK3066 is one of the more popular in this class. Although I personally bracket the Chromecast into this category, I am very well aware, it does not run on Android and is more of a DLNA Client without original setup.
The 3rd generation has been introduced in last year or two. Those devices seriously focused on media delivery and hardware acceleration. In order to deliver home theatre experience, these devices focused HDMI 1080p Video and possibly DTS or Dolby surround sound. So you'd find hardware decoders plenty with these devices. Also in addition, serious effort is being put into GPU arena with bigger and better GPUs appearing as compared to the traditional phones and tablets with their tiny screens. Now these devices have fairly bigger canvas (as big as your tv), so a monster-house of a GPU is a distinct possibility.
However, more manufacturers and makers started to tap into this niche area and you will see an explosion of devices into this arena. Primary Processors, you are likely to see here are from Amlogic, Intel, Arm and Rockchip. However Arm Cortex A9 being a Juggernaut, Intel has decided to exit from this scene. So in short, we are seeing a multitude of devices now with each trying to find its own niche. They have taken different directions and the fact that there are quiet a few unbranded devices out there, our choice or decision for the right device has just become wholly complicated. Some of the good examples of 3rd generation are Minix X8H, Tronsmart Vega S89 and U Box S812, the device of this review.
DISCLAIMER - I want to clear some things up front. I was approached and offered this device for review. This was due in part to my work with the JASS Rom.
Since I follow XDA Code of Conduct, I have made every effort to provide honest, impartial and non-judgemental review of the device at hand. As you might imagine, I have done significant research into the field of Android TV sticks. And my intention is to combine review of the device with a review of this category of devices in general.
This Review is going to focus on Beelink UBox S812 4K device. There are quiet a few names for this device depending on which retailer/reseller you are looking at. However, the one I will be reviewing here looks like the picture in OP. The Package as I received was fairly compact. Came via DHL unlike Hongkong Post Office.
Packaging as shipped -
The packaging was pretty nice and the unit comes in a nice little package.
This actually turned out to be box within a box. Here is an actual side view for reference,
So the inner box is,
Inside this box happens to be the actual unit.
First Impressions -
It appears like you have all the necessary basics included in the package. Here's what we have.
The device has predictably larger form factor than the first generation Android Sticks. Its reminds me of Roku's form factor. It is understandable that the device is larger now with so many connectivity options as well as more powerful processor. Comparing to its predecessor, the UBOX S805 MXIII, you can see the form factors are fairly identical. The IR sensor for the remote is still up front. However, this time the blue/red power led is moved to be next to the IR Sensor and the power button is gone.
There are a set of connectivity options along the back with Power and HDMI(1080p) being Key features. There is RJ/45 to compliment Wireless Support for A/B/G/N. There is also A/V out as well as S/PDIF out as well for those who are interested. Along the right edge, we have additional ports. Those are USB OTG, two full size USB and one MicroSD slot. Giving ample choices for extended storage options. The two USB slots are particularly appreciated as one is likely taken by external device connectivity (Joystick/mouse/trackpad) leaving the other for USB Drives. Of course there's Bluetooth 4.0 as well so you can easily connect that way for peripherals. The S812 does come with a remote, which is not only intuitive, but also pretty handy and easy to use. Although I have a Favi Wireless Keyboard with track pad, I found myself relying more on the included remote.
Hardware and Software configuration -
The device runs of Android Kitkat 4.4.1 and it appears to be fairly Stock version with minimal bloat. There are some preinstalled apps that offer you access to Movies and apps and then there's Kodi. The unit I received has 1 GB Ram with 8 GB internal storage. There is a choice of getting 2GB Ram and 16 GB internal storage as well.
HARDWARE -
CPU: Amlogic S812 Quad Core 2.0 GHz
RAM: 1GB or 2GB option.
GPU: Mali-450 Storage: 8GB or 16GB
External Storage: Up to 32G via MicroSD.
Interface: Micro USB, OTG, HDMI, AV, RJ45,
WiFi: IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.5 Ghz only)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
Hardware Decoders : H.265/AVC
Video Format: MKV, MPEG, RM, AVI, MVC, MP4, DAT, WMV, MPG
Audio Format: OGG, FLAC, MP3, RM, WMA, AAC, WAV
Photo Format: JPG
Power Supply: External Adapter with Dual support 110v/230v and 50 Hz/60 Hz
Other Features: Support Miracast / DLNA
In Depth Look -
Once Powered on, the S812 took approximately 10 to 12 seconds to go through the boot animation and present me with this home screen.
Of course they have a custom Launcher. Kind of looked like Windoz 8 home screen to me. Didn't like it very much for the convoluted way to add favourite apps to this screen. I am sure some might like it. Possibly its convenient to choose app with the included remote.
I didn't like it in SmartStick where I had included Apex Launcher in my Rom. Since I didn't like it, here in this case, I went poking under settings. Thankfully they had left Kitkat stock launcher alone and in the firmware. So I got this screen instead, which is an improvement.
I did change the wallpaper and add the Clock to the screen, but you get the idea. (So Kodi's included from the beginning ? That's nice.) Thank God for the Screenshot button! Also notice the Power Button. Let's take a look at what else we have here, hoping not much bloat.
Yeah not much bloat. There was one game in there for Catch Fish. I removed it before taking screenshot. Antutu and ES File Explorer are my additions. So next up, check to see if it is rooted or needs rooting. If my experience with other devices, is any indication, it would be pre-rooted. So I checked and yes it is! I had to install SuperSU, since the binary was old and there wasn't a gatekeeper. I had pushed the 2 Screenshot apps for this review. I guess redundant now. I had let my netflix account expire, so included app is of no use to me. But it will be handy to others.
PERFORMANCE -
I do however have Amazon Prime and played a movie from there. Apart from initial buffering, which is Amazon's doing, I did not have any interruptions whatsoever. I played the movie 1080p Full HD. No issues. It did support Dolby as well as DTS. So, that piece works as advertised. As I said, I removed the one game app and am not going to be playing any games on here. So Can't speak to that. You can see the Youtube video I have included bellow for that.
I did run AnTuTu Benchmark. Mixed bag of results.
Hmm. Not too bad. Here's how it stacks up to other Comparable devices.
Notice it says Unverified. Per AnTuTu's Clarification, that indicates some tweaking by manufacturer to beat AnTuTu's benchmarking tools. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Under the hood tweaking -
So me being me, and that the audience is android savvy, I did what any of us do. Went looking at what kernel is supporting that can boost the actual performance even better. Say hello to [APP][ROOT] Trickster MOD [Kernel Settings]!
Looking under the hood, I see that the kernel supports, two TCP/IP Compression Algorithms, Cubic and Reno. Of these, cubic a default. That's a decent choice too. I found, that the buffering if any was reduced with cubic over WiFi. This factor is particularly important that with Full HD streaming, you have to have best network throughput or you will see buffering. Although cubic was better for me, your mileage may very.
As far as Governors and Schedulers are concerned, there are two choices for scheduler, cfq and Row. Cfq is default. For governers, we have more choices, HotPlug, Ondemand and Performance. I found that performance governor was bit unstable and the S812 kept shutting down intermittently. Ondemand on the other hand, increased the overall AnTuTu score. So I'd stick with it. Although it is possible to use any of these governors for the GPU as well, I personally don't prefer to do it. Since we are not trying to save battery here, I don't even want to talk about undervolting.
Oh and if you are looking for a refresher or a crash course on these governor names and scheduler names, then look at the Overclock and undervolt link in my signature for reference.
Other Items Of Interest -
It seems that there is flashable firmware to be found here with Flash Tool to be had here. I can mirror those google host links myself as well.
Custom Rom Development -
My search for the Source continues. Bee-Link ignored my email.
Video Review -
The following is not mine but with the myrid confusion of devices, I wanted to point out that it comes fairly close. Do understand that the case is different in this case. We don't have the Full SD card slot on the side but have usb ports and microsd slot as discussed above. But gives pretty good idea otherwise. The video is in Spanish but youtube can translate English subtitles.
Thank you for the review. The illusion on the box is so funny :laugh:.
Could it passthrough DTS or Dolby surround sound to receiver?
My Review is still in progress. I will be finishing it in a day or two. To answer your question, yes certainly possible to pass the sound. I'd recommend to do so out of your TV as much as possible.
Here's my device! (Ubox S812 2GB / 8GB version)
This is not Beelink MXIII Plus?
114K4 was installed at the factory. I had hoped to arrive in 4.4.4, but it is at least 4.4.2.
I upgraded the 116K4, but still stutters sometimes bounces sound (HDMI output). I was hoping to help you, but not. There is a new firmware for the device?
A few more questions:
- What alternative Launcher you recommend it?
- Xbox 360 Controller (USB) is used by someone? Native mode works simulators and fps, other games do not. App was not found him. ;(
Thank you!
tomimidi said:
Here's my device! (Ubox S812 2GB / 8GB version)
This is not Beelink MXIII Plus?
114K4 was installed at the factory. I had hoped to arrive in 4.4.4, but it is at least 4.4.2.
I upgraded the 116K4, but still stutters sometimes bounces sound (HDMI output). I was hoping to help you, but not. There is a new firmware for the device?
A few more questions:
- What alternative Launcher you recommend it?
- Xbox 360 Controller (USB) is used by someone? Native mode and unfortunately FPS simulator works. App was not found him.
Thank you!
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I have linked the firmware I have. Not sure if that's what you have. This device IS NOT MXIII Plus. What was the type of media you were playing when sound stuttered ?
I haven't used XBOX Controller. But it should be possible to use.
Perseus said:
I have linked the firmware I have. Not sure if that's what you have. This device IS NOT MXIII Plus. What was the type of media you were playing when sound stuttered ?
I haven't used XBOX Controller. But it should be possible to use.
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But all the same parameter as MXIII plus. The PCB should MXIII about the photo. I think it is NetXeon.
Xbox 360 controller can be used, but only with that support. Not all programs will be recognized.
Not the movie, but the menu stepping sometimes come up with a strong voice crackling. Similarly a blank white noise. The input switching disappear.
Thanks for the extensive review. I do have a question:
Does it supports connecting an external Hard Drive and if so, does it supports a 3TB hard drive and how do I search its contents?
Many thanks,
Ice
Ice_machinE said:
Thanks for the extensive review. I do have a question:
Does it supports connecting an external Hard Drive and if so, does it supports a 3TB hard drive and how do I search its contents?
Many thanks,
Ice
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There are 2 USB Ports for this purpose. Those are mounted into /storage/xxxx Partition. You can use any File Explorer program such as ES File Explorer to navigate to that directory. The same program will allow you to search as well.
I am not sure if it supports up to 3 TB Storage. I'd think Kitkat does. So give it a try.
Thanks, if like to be sure before I'd buy it. I wouldn't want to buy it and only then to discover that I can't use my hard drive.
Ice_machinE said:
Thanks, if like to be sure before I'd buy it. I wouldn't want to buy it and only then to discover that I can't use my hard drive.
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I have a Passport 2 TB. If you want I can try that with my unit to see if it reads.
I'd love that, thx
Ice_machinE said:
I'd love that, thx
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Ok will revert.
EDIT - @Ice_machinE My passport connected flawlessly. I didn't test a lot but played one mp3 song off it. The drive mounts into /storage/ExteSD/sdo
Just remind me, is it 3TB or 2TB hard drive?
Ice_machinE said:
Just remind me, is it 3TB or 2TB hard drive?
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2 TB. But then its my assumption that 3 TB won't be any different. Android would be able to mount the partition if FSTAB is set to mount one.
thanks, I've ordered the box
Perseus said:
2 TB. But then its my assumption that 3 TB won't be any different. Android would be able to mount the partition if FSTAB is set to mount one.
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thx, with your help, i've made a decision and ordered the box
Related
hi guys,
I need a media player and rather than get a wdtv live, i'm thinking of purchasing an android stick as it has the bonus of apps etc.
I've seen loads of different sticks, such as MK808, MK809, MK809ii, MK809iii, MK908.
To be perfectly honest, I'm confused as to which is the BEST stick in terms of hardware/stability/software.
I want to be able to watch hd movies, play games and connect external storage. such as usb stick or hdd.
Which make/model is the latest so far? What can you recommend?
cx-919 IMO
thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
wowandroid said:
thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
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cx918 and mk908 are from the new generation of pen-TV based on RK3188 chip, all the others you cited in yur original message are based on RK3066 chip.
RK3188 is a 1.6-1.8ghz quad core chip, RK3066 is a 1.2-1.5ghz dual core chip, thus the first is a lot faster.
cx918 has a slightly better wifi than mk908.
Rasperry PI is A LOT less powerfull than both but its also a lot better optimized so it actually outperform both sometimes.
Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
wowandroid said:
Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
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for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
NixZero said:
for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
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Well in that case it leaves me with a dilemma. Just to clarify, I would be more than happy to stick with 720p movies as it's mainly for kids (whom can't tell the difference between 720p or 1080p, lol!), if the R3188 can handle them smoothly...what would you say? If it definately can handle them smoothly, then what about compatibility of file formats?
File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
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plznote said:
File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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Thanks plznote. You said your MK802 has ran everything you've thrown at it, which is great, but what about smoothness of movie playback in 720p???
Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
mrplowdan said:
Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
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I don't watch netflix movies...it's mainly mkv, mp4 and youtube videos.
So what is 720p movie playback like on the android stick(s)? Is it smooth? Any minor issues?
Hi wowandroid,
If you are only interested in video playback, we have a clear winner! Check out devices with Allwinner A31 + powervr sgx544mp2 like this one:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/yatow-U4K-An...0?pt=Netzanschluss&hash=item56573ed2be&_uhb=1
It is only 1GHz, but the GPU plays 4k video with 120Mbps bitrate and 3D blueray output.
Have a look at this pages too, specially the first:
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...-tablet-quadcore-arm-cortex-a7-allwinner-a31/
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/index.php/powervr/allwinner-a31-soc-with-powervr-graphics
If you play from a usb disk it should work like a real charm, but I don't know about the wifi speed, it doesn't have an external antenna. I'm sure playing that 4k file through wifi won't be so smooth.
If you can get a device with this chipset and a gigabit wired connection, go for it.
To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
wowandroid said:
To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
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If your main concern is video, I think this is hands down the best device.
It is a quite new chip, so maybe that's why you haven't heard about it.
Here is another review of a tablet with this chip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299688
All reviews agree that video performance is amazing. But I'm not sure if XBMC fully supports it yet.
It seems that it is all GPLed
http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner/a31/orders/
Thanks very much. I'm not sure if we can get this in the uk. How much are the sticks? Also how much are the tablets?
i've had no problems so far with cx-919
Thanks theregkid,
can you recommend where i can buy one from?(link?) Also will i be able to attach an external hdd?
For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
Just google on 'Imito QX1 Review' and you'll see some offers right away...
Shoarma1998 said:
For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
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Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
wowandroid said:
Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
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I can't posts links here, but see my former remark for offers... there is an usb 2.0 connection on it... just google on specs and you'll find out yourself. But yes, every stick has the ability to attach an external hdd and even more, you can connect it to your NAS.
Don't let things like weak wifi reception on other models fool you. You can order a usb to rc45 cable for 4 euro's.
XBMC is possible, but as mentioned before, it has been optimized for machines like the rbpi. All rk 3188 sticks suffer from the fact that HW accelleration is not YET supported...
The only downside from this stick, for what I've seen now that it is a pain to hook up to your stereo, since there is no audio out connection on the device... Few sticks have it, but the android media boxes have more connections. So you won't have to buy a seperate powered usb hub.
Please be aware that a 2 amp converter is desired, when running this device.
Last thing... the Imito stick has a separate bluetooth and wifi chip. for what I know, this is kind of unique, because most devices have a 'two-in-one' chip. But not sure on this one. Anyone?
MXIII - G TV Box 2GB RAM 8GB ROM 4K x 2K H.265 Decoding Google TV Player Android 4.4 Quad Core Amlogic S812 1000M Ethernet HDMI 2.4G 5G WiFi Bluetooth Connectivity
Hi all here we have my New MXiii G. The device arrived in 6 day's including the weekend from China via DHL with £4.46 custom fees to pay (Different every time)
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Quick facts
2GB RAM 8GB ROM
The S812 device is more or less the same as the S802 apart from the the S812 is the upgraded version & has the H.265/HEVC video decoding up to 4K and Gigabit Ethernet.
The S812 device's are the device to own right now. The Amlogic S812 Quad Core processor has the Octa Core ARM Mali-450 graphics engine which will provide awesome performance for multitasking,video's & games ect ect.
Internal photos
Main Features:
● Comes with a RJ45 jack for 1000M Ethernet which provides a strong network extension.
● In a follow-up OS, it can be upgraded to Android 5.1 (We will see about this time will tell)
● True 4K x 2K resolution which delivers best audio and video quality for you.
● Powerful Amlogic S812 Quad Core CPU and Octa Core ARM Mali-450 GPU: Stable and reliable.
● XBMC supported. XBMC can be used to play almost all popular audio and video formats.
● Android 4.4 KiKat: Rapid and stable, gives you access to over 800,000 apps including
Facebook, Youtube, Picasa and more.
● Professional H.265 video decoding technology and 2.4G + 5.8G WiFi, offering a more stable WiFi
signal to enjoy a higher quality video experience.
● 2GB RAM + 8GB ROM, 32GB maximum extended capacity gives you more space to
download your favorite apps and caches to browse websites, play games, run apps, watch
movies more smoothly.
● Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity: Easy pairing with most Bluetooth-enabled devices (computer,
mobile phone, keyboard, and others).
● HDMI 1.4 connector: You can go directly to let your TV and MXIII-G are connected through a
HDMI cable and set up your home cinema for the best 4K x 2K Full HD multimedia experience.
● 2 x USB host ports and 1 x OTG port: Connect with your mouse and keyboard to help you
operate more convenient.
● Infrared remote control let you enjoy your wonderful life which the wireless brings to you.
● Support Miracast, DLNA.
Device
The device itself is very much the same as my Tronfi MXiv apart from the Tronfi having the bigger storage space of 16GB but for anyone not needing the bigger space the MXiii G should be worth conciddering as the S812 device's really do do every task at a great speed.
It comes with two launchers installed, The launcher3 (standered android launcher) & the media
box launcher.
Standard launcher
Mbox launcher
Display
Advanced
Other
The MXiii G also has the 1000M Ethernet so it should be able to easy tackle being used as a home server with its fast data transfer speeds
Ports
Two Full sized USB ports & one small OTG port,One micro sd card slot,SPDIF,AV socket with secret recovery button (i like this),Power port,Ethernet port,Power button on the top & of course the HDMI port on the rear.
Wifi
2.4ghz + 5.8G Wifi which is very strong picking up my neighbours wifi network no problem also im getting a fast download speed.
Bluetooth 4.0
Kodi.
The MXiii G comes with Kodi 14.1 preinstalled with some addons too but if your buying this item for a child there are some adult addons which will need to be removed.The speed of kodi is outstanding 3 seconds to load from the app screen,Iv been streaming 1080 from the web with no video stuttering whats so ever.
Games
Iv tested beach buggy blitz with graphics set to high it played perfect as expected
I was using my ps3 controller with the sixaxis app (Need to be v8.0 or above)to avoid segmentation fault.
Also the tronsmart Mars G01 Game pad works well
Misc
Logitech c270 camera works fine
External powered 1T HD works fine
Tronsmart Mars G01 game pad works
The MXiii G gets warm but not hot so i dont think modding the box is required as you can see from the photos there is lots of venterlation holes on the bottom to help draw in the cooler air & some side vent slots for the hot air to escape.
Protective circuit design
Another cool feature is the the device comes with is (Protective circuit design) it will save the device if you use the wrong power adapter.(lets hope no one will ever need to see if it works)
Firmware: Android 4.4
Edit: Stock Fw 316k4 Android 4.4 kitkat quicker download link
http://www.filedropper.com/mxiii-g316k4sdcard
MXIII_116k4
USB: link:
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jGIh65o
password:vor9
another: link:
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1bndesPp
password:sx9k
I hope soon to be running android 5 on this as this is what has been promised, an OTA update to lollipop
Edit:Its here Lollipop beta rom
Android 5 lollipop Beta FW MXIII-G(S812+1/2G+GigaEthernet)
Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vc01k2nftpp7u4f
Tool:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jy7q7auwsa8zksy
Boot time from when the power button is pressed: 41 seconds
Shut down time: 3 seconds
Antutu Bench mark
Score 41757
Antutu Video Tester played every video
Cpu Z info
Whats in the Box
1 x MXIII-G TV Box
1 x Power Adapter
1 x HDMI Cable
1 x AV Cable
1 x IR Remote Control
1 x English Manual
View My Unboxing Video Here
To view more about the MXiii G
I recently purchased a Matricom Gbox Q and it was ok. Weren't any custom ROMs I could find for it. I have also worked with the MXQ with the S805 quad core. I'm just getting into these boxes. Once you figure them out they're pretty nifty. Let me know if there's any custom ROM development for this one. Thanks.
Update: Had mine for about a week. It's actually pretty freaking awesome. Way better than the Matricom Gbox Q. Much faster, no streaming issues. Great box.
Beta Lollipop Firmware - MXIII-G(S812+1/2G+GigaEthernet)
Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vc01k2nftpp7u4f
Tool:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jy7q7auwsa8zksy
Hi there,
thanks for the review, but I have one question.
in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY0f4o6pmBA the person is unboxing the S802 device (at least that what he says) and on the box there's an H.265 HEVC codec support. is this right or does the person doing the video has the S812 device?
the reason i'm asking it, is the price difference, the S812 costs about £70 while the S802 costs £39.
thanks
Stock Fw 316k4 Android 4.4 kitkat quicker download link
http://www.filedropper.com/mxiii-g316k4sdcard
Ice_machinE said:
Hi there,
thanks for the review, but I have one question.
in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY0f4o6pmBA the person is unboxing the S802 device (at least that what he says) and on the box there's an H.265 HEVC codec support. is this right or does the person doing the video has the S812 device?
the reason i'm asking it, is the price difference, the S812 costs about £70 while the S802 costs £39.
thanks
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Hi as far as I no the mxiii is H.264 NOT H.265 but I don't own that box so I can not say for sure (My guess is wrong box)
also the mxiii don't have the 1000M Ethernet where as the mxiii G does
MXiii G
Sneak peek at BETA Android 5 Lollipop Rom
The rom flashing process went with out any problems very easy to do, it takes about 4/5 mins on first boot though
Home screen
Cpu z
Antutu
Antutu Video
The Rom is running very nice indeed iv not came across anything thats not working yet.
Its not rooted but easy to root with iroot
Nova Launcher working like a charm snappy as hell
More to come
Got mine today. Ordered Friday night, arrived Wednesday all the way from china via DHL shipping. Pretty quick turn around from China to to Indiana, USA. So far, no complaints. I went ahead and threw the lollipop rom on there. Now I own 3 amlogic boxes.
MK808BPLUS
MXQ (HD18Q/ OTT TVBOX)
MXIII-G
thx, you've helped me make a decision and to order the S812 model
Does anyone know if there is a working twrp for this yet?
Takenover83 said:
Got mine today. Ordered Friday night, arrived Wednesday all the way from china via DHL shipping. Pretty quick turn around from China to to Indiana, USA. So far, no complaints. I went ahead and threw the lollipop rom on there. Now I own 3 amlogic boxes.
MK808BPLUS
MXQ (HD18Q/ OTT TVBOX)
MXIII-G
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was the flashing hard to do, can it be done without rooting the device first and is the rooting process easy?
thanks
Pretty easy. A quick run down. No root needed.
1: Install USB Burning tool
2: Plug in mini usb cable to box/pc
3: Hold the tiny pin button while powering the box on (this puts in in flash mode)
4: Click a couple buttons in the app, wait a few minutes and presto.
Is it better to flash Stock Fw 316k4 Android 4.4 kitkat and then Android 5 lollipop Beta FW MXIII-G(S812+1/2G+GigaEthernet), or i can flash Android 5 lollipop directly?
Can I use my skype in order to make video calls?
I've connected my webcam but there was no option to make a video call on it and every time I've picked to make a video call, the app crashed.
Is there something I'm missing in the configuration?
thx, Ice
is the Lollipop beta stable enough? Or should I stick with KitKat?
Hello!
I have installed Lollipop firmware on mine and have added a new remote.conf in order to have more buttons working with a Logitech Harmony remote.
But now, I would like to root the ROM by installing TWRP.
I have copied the recovery at the root level of a µSDcard and rename it 'recovery.img' and try to reboot the box but no chance to boot in TWRP :??:
Is something special to do to get working the recovery?
Even the command 'adb reboot recovery' is not working
Many thanks in advance!
Edit: I have tried to adb shell the box and tried the command 'dd if=/path-to-recovery/recovery.img of=/dev/block/recovery' but no luck...
john_matrix said:
Hello!
I have installed Lollipop firmware....
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I 'm sorry but i can't help you...but i would like to know if Lollipop is ok on this android Box.
Can you tell me something about it?
Thank you very much
This ROM is very good!
I don't have any issue with it and the new launcher is more wise.
The only problem is this ROM is not prerooted and I can't install TWRP... I only see the default recovery (3e)
john_matrix said:
This ROM is very good!
The only problem is this ROM is not prerooted and I can't install TWRP... I only see the default recovery (3e)
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please let me know ; Why to install TWRP? which benefit you take?
thanks and sorry for the questions from noob .
No problems
I would like to install TWRP to root the Lollipop ROM.
Because I can't get working the root by using the default recovery.
And I want root to add the ability to Kodi to shutdown the box directly with its interface.
For this you can tell me: why not using the "PowerToggle" button of the remote?
Because I use an Harmony Universal Remote and I would like to have the "Play/Pause/Stop" buttons to work, and with the logitech MXIII-G profile, these buttons don't exist (obviously also on the default remote).
So I have added a modified file 'remote.conf' in the box with these features, but this file don't have a "PowerToggle" button
Edit: new link for 316k4 OTA update:
https://mega.nz/#!dcghwaSI!N3_4z6bewyQsC9XXcSDdXik-7V4crDbHKeHKJlop2bY
I see that many people is interested in Android boxes lately, so because of that I want to share my thoughts of Rikomagic MK68 which is newest media player from this company. For me this device is good choice because it is not too expensive and at the same time it offers good hardware and very good software optimization.
The Rikomagic MK68 is based on 64-bit SoC Octa-core CPU RK3368 with the maximum speed 1.5 GHz. It has also 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB internal memory, if you need more space than you can upgrade it with memory card maximum 32 GB where the GPU is PowerVR G6110. As you can see it has enough strong hardware for any activity.
Many people bought or is interesting in these kind of devices mostly because of KODI. Because these application offers many useful features for watching movies. I've watched several movies in HD and some in SD quality and I can freely say that everything worked perfectly normal. Talking about software or to be precise OS, the Rikomagic MK68 comes with Android 5.1.1 which does not have any unwanted software. So this is good because you don't need to spend your time for deleting trash.
It has 3 x USB ports where the one USB port is for OTG function, but it has also 1 x HDMI port, 1 x optical output, 1 x microSD and 1 x LAN port. LAN supports 10/100/1000M connectivity where the WIFI supports 2.4GHz / 5GHz dual band. So you can see that you have two available choices in which you can choose how you will connect your box to your home network.
Until now I did not find any problems during use so I am very satisfied with this Android box, for more information you can visit their official website. Also for benchmark test, pictures you can go to the site: Rikomagic MK68
very good android box in general, but the only problem i found its relative to mac adress, always changing on every single boot. very weird seems like a firmware bug
Introduction
Together with many other Android Mini PCs, also Minix decided to release an up-to-date device with many interesting features, most of them exclusive from this Company. This is an huge upgrade of their previous Minix X8-H Plus, only the Chassis hasn’t been redesigned.
This is the Minix NEO U1 Media Hub
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Unboxing
Most of you will receive two packages when you order it, the Minix NEO U1 Package and the Minix A2 Lite (Air Mouse/Keyboard) package.
NEO U1 package comes with many accessories: 1x HDMI Cable, 1x Power Supply (5V/3A), 1x WiFi Antenna, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Micro-USB OTG Cable, 1x Remote Control (no Air Mouse), 1x Multi-Language Setup Guide, 1x Product Brochure and the Mini PC (of course).
No Air Mouse/Keyboard is included in the main package, but the Minix A2 Lite Air Mouse/Keyboard is provided separately without any Extra Cost. Just two different packages.
The NEO A2 Lite is absolutely a great Air Mouse/Keyboard, it feels pretty Solid and it doesn’t weight much too. I just don’t like the noise produced when Keys are pressed, unlike standard Remote Controls. It works also on other devices such as standard Desktop PCs or anything else that has a USB Port and supports Mouse/Keyboard input.
Device
About Design, the Chassis is plastic made and it has a kind of rubberized surface, this is what makes the device look so opaque. Heat Dissipation isn’t impacted though, so don’t worry even if this isn’t made of Metal.
It is as compact as most of all Mini PCs, just 12.8x12.8x2.3 and it is also lightweight enough.
As specified before, the whole surface (except the lower side) is kind of rubberized. On the Upper Side there is just a big brand logo (pretty cool, not printed), nothing else. Absolutely clean.
On the front side there is the IR Receiver (required to use the included Remote Control) and a Blue Power LED.
On the left, there is just 1x Wi-Fi Antenna Connector but the Second Antenna is internal, fixed to the upper side of the chassis. (2x2 RX/TX Wi-Fi Adapter)
On the right, there are 3x Standard USB 2.0 Ports, 1x micro SD Card slot, 1x Kensington Lock, 1x Micro-USB Connector (used for OTG or to connect the device to a PC) and a Power Button.
USB Ports are well designed here, you won’t have any kind of problem even with big USB Sticks. Well Done Minix!
The rear features separate Headphone/Microphone Jacks (like PCs), 1x HDMI port, 1x SPDIF port, 1x LAN 10/100/1000 port (Yes, Gigabit Ethernet), and 1x 5.5mm DC in.
On the lower side there isn’t anything at all, absolutely clean.
Testing
Using latest available System Software, I didn’t managed to find any performance issue. Android is always smooth, it doesn’t hang at all neither it feels extremely customized so that Stock Android experience would have been somehow impacted. It is just AOSP, with minor customization required to use the Mini PC in the best way possible, nothing extra except the Minix Launcher & Settings. There are also some third-party apps installed such as ES File Manager. Not a lot though.
Minix Settings app is complete and comfortable to use. Nearly required if you plan to use only the Remote Control.
If you don’t like Minix Settings, or if you need something that is missing, you can still open the Standard Android Settings.
The built-in Wi-Fi Adapter is super fast; it supports 2x2 config. so I managed to get connected to my 5GHz Home Network (using a Netgear R6300v2) at nearly maximum speed even if signal wasn’t extremely good. I don’t have a super fast internet connection, so I won’t be able to show you an useful speed test, but I can just say the results weren’t different than the ones recorded on my Desktop PC.
This device is powered by an Amlogic S905 CPU supported by an ARM Mali-450MP GPU. Even if the GPU isn’t a last-gen version, it still performs pretty well. I’ll talk about performance on next paragraph.
Latest available OTA Update is based still based on Android 5.1 Lollipop, maybe in the future it will be update to Android 6.0 Marshmallow or even better Android N, but I think that there isn’t any need yet to upgrade it.
I have tested some USB Sticks, and all were recognized without any compatibility issue. This is a test with a 64GB USB Stick formatted with NTFS File System.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark (Ice Storm, Ice Storm Unlimited, Ice Storm Extreme), A1 SD Bench, Antutu Benchmark, Antutu Video Tester (for Video Playback), Epic Citadel, GeekBench 3, AndroBench, PCMark (Work) and Vellamo (Browser & CPU Tests) to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark
Ice Storm
Ice Storm Unlimited
Ice Storm Extreme
Almost all Tests managed to reach more or less 30 FPS, the minimum limit required for a smooth Gaming experience, so it is pretty good considering that the built-in GPU isn’t extremely powerful.
A1 SD Bench & AndroBench – Internal eMMC performance is mediocre, not so much fast but neither so much slow. Powerful enough for an Android Mini-PC.
Antutu Benchmark – Result nearly equal to other CPUs with 4x Cortex-A53. As you can see 3D is the lower score. This is where the age of GPU can have a negative impact.
GeekBench – I must admit that there is something wrong for sure because the score is lower than other worse CPUs (no throttling here, the device was cold) so I think that built-in kernel needs to be optimized a lot to get the maximum from this nice CPU. Minix, take a look at this benchmark’s score.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, Gaming experience won’t be impacted even if the built-in GPU is old, you can enjoy your games without any issue at all.
PCMark – Decent score here, you can use this device also for Office & Web apps in the best way possible.
Vellamo – This is another complete BenchMark Suite, as you can see Browser performance is near to Nexus 5, i’m pretty sure that this will be improved with the next updates. CPU Performance (Single & Multi) is again, similar to Nexus 5, and as I said before, Minix should work a bit on the Kernel to improve CPU performance.
Browser
CPU
Antutu Video Tester – Used to test Video Playback capabilities. All types of Videos are played without any issue, neither there is any compatibility issue. It seems that Minix has optimized this device especially for Video Playback. (“Media Hub” says all)
Kodi (ex KBMC) – I know, this isn’t a Benchmark Suite but I have tested it (it was also preinstalled) to see if it is working in a smooth way in order to use this device as a Media Center, and I can say that it is as smooth as it is on my Desktop PC.
Conclusions
Well, it is hard to say if this is something that you should buy or not, because the not-so-good GPU Performance and the low CPU Performance related to poor Kernel optimization don’t offer the performance that you would expect, but actually it is hard to find a better ARM-Based Mini PC. This is one of the most complete available and offers continuous Manufacturer OTA Updates (unlike some other Chinese Brands), so...do I recommend it?
The reply is: Yes, unless you want to spend almost 4x the price of this device to build your own HTPC or you prefer an x86 Mini PC with Windows.
Official Specs
Rating: 8.5
Packaging and Accessories: 10
Design and Materials: 8
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 7.5
Software: 9
Price: 8 (based on Amazon.it price)
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/CBAIT
Official Website: http://minix.com.hk/en/products/neo-u1
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Thanks for your review.
Minix is the best TV box brand, and Amlogic SoC is the best TV Box solution from my opinion.
20160415 OTA Update has been released with some nice improvements. Remember to update your Mini PC
If you have modified your device and you are now facing issues, just follow this post on the Official Minix forum to restore it: http://www.minixforum.com/threads/neo-u1-full-system-image-reflashing-guide.10046/
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
pel.hu said:
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
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Source: cnx-software
I have a question for you all, have you tried to use native 3D format on this device?
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
Toufinious said:
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
Alberto96 said:
You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
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yup .
Just got back from the Minixforums and it seems that any old wired xbox 360 controller will work (that is genuine and "generic")
as for wireless controllers... it seems that the genuine Microsoft wireless receiver is required in order for it to work
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
yoesazel said:
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
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Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
Minix NEO U1
Bigjazz2016 said:
Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
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Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
yoesazel said:
Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
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Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
Bigjazz2016 said:
Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
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Ok Sir... I will try.... Thanks for you info
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
foxy6800 said:
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
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There are tons of options..Kodi being the best along with Terrarium TV, and SET TV....google and you tube would prob be the easiest...none of these will be easy for a kid to navigate through though more than likely.
Hi Again Guys... I already done rooted my minix neo u1. Now i want install fiver4android in minix... Any solution to do that? because i already try, and viper4android cannot run properly. Always ask to install drivers, even i already done install that drivers. Anyone help me... Pleaseee... Thanks ( FW 013, rooted, superuser, busybox already there)
I'm looking to get an Android TV device and I am overwhelmed with options. I want something that is fully unlockable with an active development community. What originally got me interested was the Amazon Fire TV but after reading up it seems the new units are no longer rootable/unlockable. That lead me down the path to other devices. I think I've settled on the AMLogic based devices (if there are other suggestion I'm open). It looks like there are basically 3.
S905 - Older chip and stuck with Android 5 roms
S905x - Newer with 4k but performance is not as good at the S905. More dev/roms available
S912 - 8 core. Has DVB S2/T2 support (not sure what that does for me though) Does not seem to be a lot of dev for this. Only one thread I saw.
Based on these assumptions I'm leaning toward a X96 - S905x 2GB/16GB model for $42.99.
Also. Do the non Amazon devices support Amazon video? My current chromecast's do not and that is one reason for the upgrade.
I am in a similat boot here
Decided on the X96 because I found the page for the firmware updates before I found a link to buy the box LOL
Apart from the missing BT a great box considering the usual limitations.
Amazon video only works on Amazon devices AFAIK but I don't use it.
Same story for Android TV, great hype about it but I think it is just a crippled launcher with really limited content showing up - mainly Youtube and Google but nothing else.
The S912 seems to be the affordable alternative if you need BT and a bit more computing power for games but S905D boxes are slowly turning up.
Same for devices running on Android7 and offering up to 3GB/32GB.
But Android7 for TV boxes is in an early beta to say it nice with a lot of bugs and half cooked menu structures - better to wait a bit longer if you ask me.
And since the hardware for these boxes is literally identical within the families it comes down to personal preference and what can be modded or not.
Personally I am starting to think that despite the huge price tag the Shield is still the best option in terms of quality, hardware and support.
DVB is for terrestial and satellite TV.
Thanks. I did not realize there was no BT on the S905x boxes. My only concern there is I was planning to use a wireless BT keyboard with it.
Almost all wireless keyboards that come with a dongle will work, for example the Logitech and MS ones, same for the dirt cheap and tiny touchpad keyboards you get on Ebay.
BT is only a problem if you need it for game controllers, weather stations or to pair some speakers to it.
I see. I went ahead and ordered a X96 that included a mini keyboard last night. I figure for $47.98, including shipping, what the heck right? I'll have a cheap new toy to play with.
Once you played enough you will start playing even more when you try different custom roms
hi please help i flashed wrong twrp recovery i think now my amlogic smartbox failed to boot in recovery mode and the main problem is my smartbox Encryption Unsuccessful Factory reset, when i click factory reset nothing happend please guide how to solve this
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