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Hi Samsung Galaxy SII (and Hercules) experts,
I have been using an iphone 3GS on custom firmware 4.2.1 that is hacktivated so I can have this phone unlocked to use with t-mobile. My problem is that I only get 2G edge network speed.
I want to stick with T-mobile because I'm getting a really good deal on unlimited anytime minutes, texts, web/data usage. If the only way I can get 3G or 4G speeds on my iphone 3GS with t-mobile is using wi-fi, then I'm seriously considering getting an Android Samsung Hercules when it comes out. If I'm going to consider the Hercules, then I have to also consider the iphone 4 or 5.
Which is a better phone with respect to processing speed and with respect to the operating system. I'm not planning on doing any gaming but I do value fast processing speed with respect to loading of book marked webpages on my desktop (e.g., google map of the best restaurants in Los Angeles) and loading of browser web-pages in general (especially when other processes are going on as well). Is it supposed to be a better phone than the iphone 4 and 5? What is the conclusion of official benchmark tests on the comparison of processing speed of the Hercules and iphone 4 (what will the conclusion likely be of Hercules VS iphone 5) and of Android 2.4 VS ios 4 and 5? I ask about processing speed because previous processing speed tests have shown that even though 2 processors may boast the same speed, one ends up actually being significantly faster.
Insight into this will go a long way for me, because 2G Edge speed is a real liability for me, and I would like to upgrade to the best smartphone availabe as soon as possible.
Thank you in advance for your help.
you can't compare anything to the iphone 5, because nothing is known about it yet.
Really depends on what you want. If you want everything done for you get an iPhone. If you want to customise or have a PC-esque internet browsing experience get a Samsung Galaxy S II.
The S2 in my opinion is in the running for gadget of the year (and worst battery life as well) and the iPhone will have to have 8G and its own neuclear reactor if is stands a chance against the S2.
But first wait for the iPhone 5 to be released and see what you want.
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Galaxy SGS 7 much better than IPhone 5 .
jje
Pointless thread is pointless
Why did you create a SGS2 VS. iPhone 5 thread on a SGS2 forum?
I'm not sure what the problem is. I'm using the Galaxy SII forum to compare the S2 with another phone! I want to know why to get one phone over the other!
I don't like this comparison threads at all, besides the GS II is the BEST device released and available in the market atm, if some phone comes closer to it, it will be hTC Sensation.
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comparison of S2 to other phones
If you don't like comparison threads why do you make comparisons in your post? And if you make them, please explain why you prefer one over the other.
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If you don't like comparison threads why do you make comparisons in your post? And if you make them, please explain why you prefer one over the other.
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Comparisons are great when you can perform tasks on two phones and see which one performs better.
Are you really this thick? Can you not see why it would be difficult to make comparisons with a phone that doesn't exist yet?
comparison between S2 and iphone 4 or 5
Are you that dumb?
Yes, comparisons are best when you can compare performance side by side. However, when one or both phones have not come out yet, it is still possible for knowledgeable people to predict performance based on the expected specs and familiarity with previous models.
I was hoping to get insight from someone knowledgeable.
Still missing on iPhone 5:
No Flash support in the web browser
No quick toggles for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and 3G
No Facebook integration
No proper widgets for the lockscreen
App folders still are limited to 12 apps tops
No DivX/XviD video support out of the box (though there're lots of players in the App Store)
No USB Mass storage mode for uploading content to the device
No haptics for the touchscreen
No Bluetooth file transfers to other phones
Contacts lack a swipe-to-delete or mass delete feature
If you want only the cult phone go with iPhone
If you want the best android phone go with GS2
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Still missing on iPhone 5:
No Flash support in the web browser
No quick toggles for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and 3G
No Facebook integration
No proper widgets for the lockscreen
App folders still are limited to 12 apps tops
No DivX/XviD video support out of the box (though there're lots of players in the App Store)
No USB Mass storage mode for uploading content to the device
No haptics for the touchscreen
No Bluetooth file transfers to other phones
Contacts lack a swipe-to-delete or mass delete feature
If you want only the cult phone go with iPhone
If you want the best android phone go with GS2
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BuzzFuzz,
Thank you
im pretty sure iphone 5 will be using the A5, which im sure Exynos will tear appart processing wise
At that time, I think SS Galaxy S2 is the best, , although at some point it doesn't have advantage compare to others. But in overall, it's simply the best. Who knowthe real Iphone 5?
probably by the time there is ip5 we will have sgs3 with its mind reading, bread toasting, coffee making UI!
What a ridiculous thread, only created to stir the pot!
I currently have an S2 with CM9 on it, quite happy with it, worked around most of its faults, and it'll continue getting better, but ever since the Nexus was released, I've been drawn to it somehow.
Presumably someone on here has used them both, so how does a CM9 S2 compare with the Galaxy Nexus in terms of speed, pleasure in use etc etc?
I've never used a Nexus, but I think I can deduce the following...
Screen: Galaxy S2 maybe has slightly better colours, more vibrant, but Nexus has much improved sharpness.
Speed: I reckon the S2 maybe faster / smoother, due to having less pixels to push around?
Ease of use: I like ICS, so maybe the Nexus is the ultimate iteration, what with its proper on screen buttons etc. No hacking around, it just works.
Look: Nexus physically bigger, possibly feels more solid.
Camera: S2 has overall better quality, Nexus has superior shutter speed.
Music quality: Nexus has superior sound hardware - better sound quality.
Battery life: Nexus slightly better than CM9 equipped SGS2 and charges much faster.
Are these assumptions correct?
Better to ask in nexus forum, yhere must be people shifted from s2...
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Better to ask in nexus forum, yhere must be people shifted from s2...
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This makes sense.
The Gnex isn't an upgrade from our phone in my opinion, and OMAP suck...
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Better to ask in nexus forum, yhere must be people shifted from s2...
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True. Might be biased though.
SGS2 with cm9 is a good package but can't help but wonder if the nexus offers that finishing touch!
I've used both and my opinion would be this:
SGS2 is much faster. Due to less pixels and a better GPU it's quicker at launching apps and benchmarks quite a bit faster
SGS2 has a better camera. The Galaxy Nexus camera is really quite poor. The 8mp SGS2 isn't amazing either but it's better
The Galaxy Nexus looks better. With the curved glass and better bezel it's a far more attractive phone. Plus it doesn't have hard buttons which makes it look more streamlined
The Galaxy Nexus has a lovely screen. Not as vibrant as the SGS2 but bigger and with a better pixel ratio. You notice straight away that it fits more icons on the screen and that's including the nav buttons
Overall, given the choice I would take the Nexus every time, and the reason is this:
Ever since I've owned Android phones, be it the G1, the Hero, the Desire, the S1 or the S2 I've (and quite a lot of people on these boards) strived to make my phone as vanilla Google as I can. CM9 seems to be the most convenient way to get ICS on your handset whilst binning the horrible TouchWiz. No matter what ROM you use, there'll always be a bug. Something missed. You'll never have as good a Google Android experience as you would on a vanilla Google phone.
I would give up the speed, the camera and the bright screen of the S2 if that meant I didn't have to keep hunting for the perfect ICS ROM.
...Plus, Google Nexus will always get the latest Google software long before manufacturers (and then mobile providers) slap their junk on it and release it for their branded phones.
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I've used both and my opinion would be this:
SGS2 is much faster. Due to less pixels and a better GPU it's quicker at launching apps and benchmarks quite a bit faster
SGS2 has a better camera. The Galaxy Nexus camera is really quite poor. The 8mp SGS2 isn't amazing either but it's better
The Galaxy Nexus looks better. With the curved glass and better bezel it's a far more attractive phone. Plus it doesn't have hard buttons which makes it look more streamlined
The Galaxy Nexus has a lovely screen. Not as vibrant as the SGS2 but bigger and with a better pixel ratio. You notice straight away that it fits more icons on the screen and that's including the nav buttons
Overall, given the choice I would take the Nexus every time, and the reason is this:
Ever since I've owned Android phones, be it the G1, the Hero, the Desire, the S1 or the S2 I've (and quite a lot of people on these boards) strived to make my phone as vanilla Google as I can. CM9 seems to be the most convenient way to get ICS on your handset whilst binning the horrible TouchWiz. No matter what ROM you use, there'll always be a bug. Something missed. You'll never have as good a Google Android experience as you would on a vanilla Google phone.
I would give up the speed, the camera and the bright screen of the S2 if that meant I didn't have to keep hunting for the perfect ICS ROM.
...Plus, Google Nexus will always get the latest Google software long before manufacturers (and then mobile providers) slap their junk on it and release it for their branded phones.
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Thanks for the reply
You make it sound as though Nexus is quite slow / unresponsive compared to SGS2. When I watched a video of the Nexus, it looked a tad slower to me also, but I wouldn't say MUCH slower.
Most cam phone pics aren't awesome to me. Not an issue. As long as the pics are passable, I think its swings and roundabouts.
Vibrancy versus Sharpness - not sure what I'd prefer unless I lived with both long term.
I know what you mean about AOSP Android though. Very pure and appealing.
Can you comment on battery life, charging speed and sound quality though?
do u all think that S3 should be bought by the user who already uses an
S2.
S3 specs are:- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| S2 specs are:-
1280x720p super amoled hd(not plus)|||||||||||| 800x480 super amoled plus
1.4ghz exynos quad core(28nm)||||||||||||||||| 1.2 ghz exynos dual core(45or32)
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1gb ram ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 1gb ram
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should S3 be purchased by an enthusiast if he already owns an
Galaxy S2????
S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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thats what i was thinking.
cause the camera is the same old 8 mp cmos sensor but flatpanel.
just the screen size,resolution and the processor has been changed.
so i think would stick to my S2 for one year more and wait for S4.
my DAD will be happy that this year his wallet will not be empty like last 2 years.
Other than the screen and battery, there's nothing I want over s2 TBH. When's the last time you found s2's CPU struggle with anything? Now what you going to do with a quad core CPU that put some laptops to shame?
I know most S2 users will say it's not worth it, but after reading both the engadget and androidcentral coverage (and also technobuffalo and pocketnow) I have come to the conclusion:
I want it.
First of all, this is not iPhone 4->4S. The only thing there was a dual core in stead of single core processor and the camera. No DESIGN changes, it looked the same. No screen changes, it looked the same.
My initial feeling was mixed. First I wasn't amazed by the design. After seeing more and more articles and more and more pictures/videos, I changed my mind. That "metallic blue" colour is very nice, I like the home button design, the curved edges. The only thing I'm not amazed about is the back, but it's ok.
Hardware wise I'm happy. People with the S2, I understand you doubting if it's worth the upgrade from an S2. But some people on the net saying the hardware is total "****" should be locked up. People expect WAY to much. 2 years ago I would have only dreamed about such specs. While my S2 is no slow guy, I am starting so see room for improvements. It's slow some times, not a lot but ok. Also the change from WVGA to 720p res is a great thing, even if it's "pentile". Another small but maybe unknown detail is the S3 uses a "wolfson" soundchip or how it's called, so supercurio already tweeted we can expect amazing sound quality.
Atm I"m enjoying my S2 and somewhere in June/July I might get the S3. Like I said a while ago, standard pattern of most humans:
Initial disappointment, after a while start changing their minds, buy the phone anyway, start loving it hardcore mode. Every year. People usually focus only on specs on paper, but start seeing the small details later. And off course actually holding the phone in your hand, that's when the magic chicks in ^^
Of course it's worth buying the SIII. They upgraded the best feature in the world: pink spot right in the middle of the photos.
duykhang524 said:
S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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You will buy this phone, just wait till you come out and you hear all the good things about it, you won't be able to resist. You will find things in your pockets
duykhang524 said:
S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Features like Smart Stay, SVoice etc are so awesome, worth buying!!!
+Notification LED
I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
no . its not worth-it unlike iphone user who need to wait apple decision to add features . .. we dont hope the s-voice, s-memo and the other software inprovement excluding touchwiz will be ported to our beloved galaxy s2 okay2 maybe touchw's icons just for the sake of refeshment
SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
raf2k said:
And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Have you seen good renders/official pictures of it?
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-was-it-worth-the-wait
It's beautiful imo.
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SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
It's common sense this will be discussed here.
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I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
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Exactly .... and the special thing thing is the chip is better than the one in sgs.
Generally people will never have the mind to update their previous flagship, adding the poor design for sgs3 the upgrade will be slower from sgs2 users.
If you like HD screen, capture more photos, better battery life then you can switch to sgs3 without a doubt.
People haven't read the initial review from anandtech and gsmarena, this sgs3 blows the competitors with wide margin . The only drawback I would say is the back panel design.
#*posted on the move *#
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
It's common sense this will be discussed here.
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That must be why I've found 4 threads here already then.
Don't see that it's "common sense" at all - that's what the dedicated forum for the SGS III is for....
Anyway, see the last post here - when a mod says discussion goes on relevant thread, end of story.
Bet this thread will be locked anyway.
Having gotten the original Galaxy S and SII, I was greatly anticipating the SIII even though I was very impressed with the HTC One X.
After seeing the device, I have to say I'll be getting the One X instead. I waited and waited but was ultimately disappointed.
This new device is pretty ugly. How can the company that made the elegant Galaxy Nexus also make the chintzy, cheap-looking Galaxy SIII? Seriously -- the Galaxy SII actually looks better with its more pronounced edges -- the curved appearance of the SIII reminds me a lot of the Galaxy S -- in other words, the design went backwards. At least the iPhone 4s retained what was a good-looking design.
That's not the only thing that went backwards: the display technology Samsung is using on the SII is superior to the Pentile display of the SIII even if the resolution is lesser. What's more, in real world use, the SIII will probably not be that much better than the One X. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the front camera also has a slightly smaller sensor, doesn't it (1.9Mpix vs. 2.0Mpix)?
Moreover, whereas other manufacturers are exploring the use of new processes and materials for its builds (Apple is allegedly planning to use new materials and processes on its iPhone and HTC already used a different set on its new One series), Samsung has stuck to ugly, glossy plastic.
What's bizarre is that if you look at Samsung's other offerings, like its televisions, it isn't afraid of producing elegant, spartan designs. There's nothing elegant or spartan about the Galaxy SIII, it's just cheesy.
Also, while I thought Touchwiz 4 was passable enough, the new TouchWiz looks like a disaster waiting to happen. You can already tell there's going to be a ton of crapware on the i9300. Where's the evolution? Why persist with the iPhone knock-off design sensibility when Android has already moved forward? Why insist on a very ugly hardware home button when Sammy itself shipped the first ICS sandwich with virtual buttons?
Rather than going for an ICS-influenced look which was meant to unify the appearance of the OS across devices and manufacturers, Samsung doubled-down on the most-critiqued software feature of its devices. Also, as one can see from the various hands-on videos, they even retained the Gingerbread-green battery icons!
At least HTC had the good sense to tweak SenseUI heavily to give its users a good user experience while incorporating just enough ICS to please the Android purists. Just looking at the TW5, you know it'll be another invasive, ugly experience from Samsung.
The only redeeming quality the SIII seems to have is its SoC, which is why some are saying its an evolutionary rather than revolutionary update.
So, sorry, Sammy. You aren't getting my money this year.
Better stay away from xda,internet for some time
If i say just once that I need new phone, I am kicked out of house
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i'm pretty disappointed with the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
1. looks like a piece of soap.
2. screen is pentile
3. hardware buttons (really samsung?)
4. fat bezel
5. a9 battery sucker instead of a a15 for the sake of marketing
6. crapwiz
it's a galaxy SIIs. I'm gonna wait for the next Nexus. just my $0,02
In my opinion, SG3 not really a idea phone to buy if you already have SG2. Because:
1. Still not need quad core yet.
2. 4.8inch too big for "mobile" phone. Almost size of Samsung Note.
3. Same camera MP.
4. Ugly and non pro design.
The only things that interest me is the NFC technology.
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3. Same camera MP.
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i can't believe that there still people thinking that image quality is measured in megapixel. it's 2012.... we should be over this now. people like you are the reason why the sgs3 has a inefficient quad instead of a a15 dual. CUZ M O O OOOAR IS B E TTARRR!
Hi all,
So, recently I've come up to the one-year mark on the contract for my Galaxy S II, and with that comes the opportunity to end my contract. From that, I now have the chance to sell my I9100 if I desire, and with the money I've currently been offered for it, I could buy a new Galaxy Nexus outright. What I came to ask today was if anybody here has had any personal experience with both phones, and could weigh in on the topic? For me, the only things that make me slightly hesitant of the gNexus are the screen and the camera. By no means are either bad, but are they not so good, perhaps? For anyone who's used/owns a Galaxy Nexus, could you comment on it all?
I've got the next few days to make a decision, and would love to hear what anyone might have to say :angel:
In advance, thanks for your time.
screamworks
I have experienced Galaxy Nexus as well as Galaxy S2. Both on ICS. Well, Galaxy Nexus gives better experience. It has vanilla ROM without horrible TouchWiz which makes a big difference, too. Plus, you'll get updates directly from Google without a big delay.
And, Jelly Bean makes Galaxy Nexus a super smooth device thanks to Project Butter. If I liked it with ICS, you'll like it more with Jelly Bean.
Interestingly, some users on this forum are reporting that Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean gives better experience than even Galaxy 'S3'.
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I have experienced Galaxy Nexus as well as Galaxy S2. Both on ICS. Well, Galaxy Nexus gives better experience. It has vanilla ROM without horrible TouchWiz which makes a big difference, too. Plus, you'll get updates directly from Google without a big delay.
And, Jelly Bean makes Galaxy Nexus a super smooth device thanks to Project Butter. If I liked it with ICS, you'll like it more with Jelly Bean.
Interestingly, some users on this forum are reporting that Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean gives better experience than even Galaxy 'S3'.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've heard a lot to the same affect as well, Project Butter is simply amazing in the UX it delivers apparently. In terms of TouchWiz vs. AOSP, etc. and all that, I'd end up going with CyanogenMod anyway, so that's not much of an issue. But as you mentioned, the immediate updates and high amount of community support is probably the number one reason I'm considering the move. More over, I can't see the Galaxy S II dev. scene getting any better really. Most major devs. are moving on the the S III, etc., and all the proprietary code makes it a pain for the existing/remaining developers.
How would you compare the screen quality between the devices? The general consensus I've found is that that Galaxy Nexus is pretty great so long as you don't over-analyse it, or if it's on the lowest brightness setting? As with the camera, obviously megapixels are only a part of the case, so what're you thoughts on that situation?
screamworks
screamworks said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've heard a lot to the same affect as well, Project Butter is simply amazing in the UX it delivers apparently. In terms of TouchWiz vs. AOSP, etc. and all that, I'd end up going with CyanogenMod anyway, so that's not much of an issue. But as you mentioned, the immediate updates and high amount of community support is probably the number one reason I'm considering the move. More over, I can't see the Galaxy S II dev. scene getting any better really. Most major devs. are moving on the the S III, etc., and all the proprietary code makes it a pain for the existing/remaining developers.
How would you compare the screen quality between the devices? The general consensus I've found is that that Galaxy Nexus is pretty great so long as you don't over-analyse it, or if it's on the lowest brightness setting? As with the camera, obviously megapixels are only a part of the case, so what're you thoughts on that situation?
screamworks
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When it comes to screen quality, I'd say Galaxy Nexus is better. Talking about specs, Nexus offers higher PPI and resolution. Don't go for marketing term "Plus" in S2. Yes, S2 provides better contrast ratio, but Nexus display looks more realistic.
When it comes to Cam, S2 clearly excels. But, Nexus is fine for normal use. You shouldn't care about it unless you print big photos with super high quality.
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When it comes to screen quality, I'd say Galaxy Nexus is better. Talking about specs, Nexus offers higher PPI and resolution. Don't go for marketing term "Plus" in S2. Yes, S2 provides better contrast ratio, but Nexus display looks more realistic.
When it comes to Cam, S2 clearly excels. But, Nexus is fine for normal use. You shouldn't care about it unless you print big photos with super high quality.
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Really? I'm surprised honestly, though it does make sense that the added resolution of the Galaxy Nexus would prove a great fighting point. In terms of camera, I pretty much expected that. So you wouldn't say in any sense that the camera is bad though? 95% of all my shots are simply ones from out and about, so it's not like I need a miracle or anything.
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screamworks said:
Really? I'm surprised honestly, though it does make sense that the added resolution of the Galaxy Nexus would prove a great fighting point. In terms of camera, I pretty much expected that. So you wouldn't say in any sense that the camera is bad though? 95% of all my shots are simply ones from out and about, so it's not like I need a miracle or anything.
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The camera is pretty decent considering it is only 5MP and seems to have a normal sized sensor for a phone camera. It'll look good if you don't expect some high-end DSLR camera quality. Considering all, I came from the S2 temporarily as a fill in until I have gotten my Galaxy Nexus last week and I would say it is an upgrade with Project Butter.
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The camera is pretty decent considering it is only 5MP and seems to have a normal sized sensor for a phone camera. It'll look good if you don't expect some high-end DSLR camera quality. Considering all, I came from the S2 temporarily as a fill in until I have gotten my Galaxy Nexus last week and I would say it is an upgrade with Project Butter.
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Awesome to hear. Project Butter is definitely a major selling point for me, so I'm glad to hear you say that. I'm all but sold now, and am only waiting to complete the sale of my I9100 first :angel:
If anyone else has any comments/info/tips or remarks they'd like to make, I'd be really interested in hearing them!
screamworks
Hello everyone,
I would like some opinions coz i'm about to buy one of the title's phones.
In my country there is a difference in price about 50 euros between 6p and s7 edge but that's not a matter to me.
I do care about developing apps on android and i do care about every possible update by google.
I would like also to have better support on roms/kernels and stuff in the future
Google stops guaranteed updates on 6p - September 2017
What is gonna be the advantage of having a nexus device after it?
Is it still possible to find better support + custom roms for 6p instead of s7 after September?
Thanks a lot
I considered the Edge, an year ago, when I bought my 6P. But I wanted a larger and bigger screen and the edge just wouldn't cut it.
Check the S7 edge forums to see how it is the development, but at this stage and considering its still somewhat a recent device, theres naturally less roms and development support (also due the fact this is a nexus which makes development much easier).
If a bigger screen and development arent so important for you, I'd say it's a good phone, I have friends that own it and are happy with it.
I have my 6P for more than a year. If I could go back I would not get the 6P and wait to take the S7 Edge. There are plenty of ROMs available for S7 Edge and also more diversity in them. I mean that the ROMs here for the 6P are basically all the same(don't everyone rush to correct me. I know they come with a lot of extras, but they are basically an extra menu and no so much or no at all changes in the Android user exp). I miss the opportunity to have the choice to try some more "exotic" options like MIUI(there is MIUI rom in the forums, but it's dead and with lots of bugs so... don't count it), ColorOS and stuff like this.
And also the S7 Edge has wireless charging, ip68 and microSD support. I really miss the SD(I came from Note 3). I am tired of cleaning up when shooting some high res videos or pics :/
And also the camera on S7 Edge is considered one of the best or maybe the best till date.
This is my subjective oppinion ofc.
Check the S7 Edge forum to see what development looks like.
As far as Nexus phones go, my Nexus 5 (2013) is running Nougat just fine right now.
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I have my 6P for more than a year. If I could go back I would not get the 6P and wait to take the S7 Edge. There are plenty of ROMs available for S7 Edge and also more diversity in them. I mean that the ROMs here for the 6P are basically all the same(don't everyone rush to correct me. I know they come with a lot of extras, but they are basically an extra menu and no so much or no at all changes in the Android user exp). I miss the opportunity to have the choice to try some more "exotic" options like MIUI(there is MIUI rom in the forums, but it's dead and with lots of bugs so... don't count it), ColorOS and stuff like this.
And also the S7 Edge has wireless charging, ip68 and microSD support. I really miss the SD(I came from Note 3). I am tired of cleaning up when shooting some high res videos or pics :/
And also the camera on S7 Edge is considered one of the best or maybe the best till date.
This is my subjective oppinion ofc.
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I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
MidnightDevil said:
I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
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I hardly doubt someone buys a nexus and thinks "hey, I'd love a MIUI on my phone". Hahaha.
I was in the same position when I finally decided to go with 6P. In terms of hardware, I think S7 Edge is a superior phone with a better battey life (except for the camera which I think 6P's much better especially in lowlight and with HDR+).
However, in terms of rom development and software support, S7 Edge is really lagging behind. Not to mention with most of these vendors such as Samsung, Sony, etc., when you switch to another custom rom, you lose the camera quality and many other exclusive functions available only on their own official roms. Thus, I think only nexus phones (which sadly have come to an end) and now oneplus phones should be your choice when custom roms and fast updates are your thing!
I my own opinion, the S7 Edge isn't better than the 6P. The two are a very good photo-phone. I think the 6P is slightly better than the S7 in low light environment and use HDR+ like a charm.
Remember that the S7 Edge is newer than the 6P with release date 6 month after the 6P. I love the 6P for the multimedia experience with the 2 speakers in front of the phone with a really better immersion when you are watching movies or playing games.
When you buy a Pure android phone, it's for developpement purpose or to have a phone with an OS as clear as possible isn't ?
If you want an exotic ROM, buy an exotic phone
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I my own opinion, the S7 Edge isn't better than the 6P. The two are a very good photo-phone. I think the 6P is slightly better than the S7 in low light environment and use HDR+ like a charm.
Remember that the S7 Edge is newer than the 6P with release date 6 month after the 6P. I love the 6P for the multimedia experience with the 2 speakers in front of the phone with a really better immersion when you are watching movies or playing games.
When you buy a Pure android phone, it's for developpement purpose or to have a phone with an OS as clear as possible isn't ?
If you want an exotic ROM, buy an exotic phone
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The front speakers on 6P are like every phone should have them, no doubt. I don't know how the vendors did not learn already this and are still putting them on the sides or even back. This is great plus!
For the low light... I guess it is arguable. I have a friend with S7 edge, and I have to admit, he got better ones than me. :/
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MidnightDevil said:
I understand what you mean, and that is the "problem" with nexus devices, all roms are CAF/AOSP based with little support for third party roms like MIUI and ColorOS and all that stuff.
Looking back 5 years ago we could find those roms for lot's of devices, now I think things are getting more "stricter" in that sense.
But hey, I got a 6P exactly for this so.. while all "aosp/caf" look alike, they are so damn smooth and functional!
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Yep, with the old nexus-es I had, I got to try all kinds of stuff. And this was the best, since you get some unique ROMs and some of them match to your liking. Now - not the case anymore. :/
And for all of the guys who comment bad about the more unknown and distant ROMs(most chinese), I think they get their knowledge by just reading some articles and watching videos or maybe some old experience.
For example - I still have my Galaxy Note 3 with latest MIUI 8(all s-pen , camera mods and other stuff works perfectly). It is just as fast as my 6P and it is 2013 phone.
Now there are only few phones(at least from the late flagships) that you have the opportunity to try quite a number of totally different ROMs in terms of overall expirience.
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I hardly doubt someone buys a nexus and thinks "hey, I'd love a MIUI on my phone". Hahaha.
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It depends, it wasn't my first reason obviously, AOSP above all, but for who used MIUI before and enjoyed it, one can only wonder
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I considered the Edge, an year ago, when I bought my 6P. But I wanted a larger and bigger screen and the edge just wouldn't cut it.
Check the S7 edge forums to see how it is the development, but at this stage and considering its still somewhat a recent device, theres naturally less roms and development support (also due the fact this is a nexus which makes development much easier).
If a bigger screen and development arent so important for you, I'd say it's a good phone, I have friends that own it and are happy with it.
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The s7 edge screen is only .2 inches smaller (it's 5.5 inches) and due to having no on screen buttons you wouldn't notice.
That being said, I had the s6 edge. Camera, screen and build quality were much better with the edge. It really is a sexy phone imo.
The lack of updates got to me though, and since the s6 was exynos there were no ROMs. The s7 edge has a snapdragon so development would be much better no doubt. I would get the s7 for sure