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Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Finally I've made a move. TyTN X Sony Crossover Custom Headphones.
I've used a solder to remove the original earbuds wire and soldered a pair of cut SONY MDR-EX71SL headphones on. They sound 100 times better than the stock ones. This will ease my frustrations for now. I was tempted to solder my MDR-EX90LP on but they are $100 a pair. Too much for now
Later on I will try to rework the stock mini USB headphone and make a 2.5mm connector for it so I can use all kinds of headphones(with mic) and connect to a speaker system as I want!
EDIT: It appears that the original mini USB headset has 6 wires, 4 should be for the headphones and the remaining 2 for the mic, I can simply cut up the wire right after the mini USB port and connect the 6 wires to a standard cell phone headset 2.5mm connector then I should be able to connect the TyTN to all kinds of headsets![/img]
Arent you essentially doin this? http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html as seen in another post, seems like the most universal way to solve the problem.
I do like the way you built a set without a plug, cleaner..less cord and weight, but I know myself, I go through a pair of headphones about every 2 months on my mp3 player, Id hate to have to redo the soldering everytime, I expect with the headphones being such an issue for most peple that the market will be flodded in a month or so with headphones for the tytn, or atleast adapters, shoot, the one guy in the above url even offered to do it for free, as long as you bought the plug.
is there still no adaptor available to buy?
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
crash74 said:
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
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@crash74
Looks very good, even more solid than the other solution, but how do you open the unit to reach the print, is their any trick?!
Can i also use the new connection as a line-out for little active stereo boxes, or is this to tricky for TyTn/boxes?
worked like a dream i have no more crapy hissing inbetween tracks and now i can play my song thu my hi-fi that 1 to the modders and 0 to htc
Adapter usb to 3.5 jack
Go to semsons.com, they have the adapter
qing84, I have the same headphones as u=) firstly I solve this problem like you, but I smash the small "black box"=) with mic and volume control, and i was need connect my mdr-ex71 directly to TyTN without "black box"=(
I was glad that i did it, because sound became much more louder, and more clean...
qing84 said:
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
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umm...you could have just bought this.... http://www.cellphoneshop.net/auadforci85.html
i think its a good idea to replace the head phone leaving the mic in workin condition.as there is no connector is still available at least in my town.i ll try it tomorrow.thanx dude
Hi, I have searched on this forum for a better HTC hero headphone replacement thread but I've had no luck, also Google hasnt been helpful too which is why I am creating a new thread.
I have misplaced my Hero headphone and I would like to know which headphone will be a better replacement for the phone. I purchased iPhone 3GS headphone today but it can only Play/Pause (I am returing back tomorrow) Any suggestion will be highly appreciated and useful
Thanks
Might be useful if you give us a price bracket, there are lots of headphones out there. Also, do you want to be able to fully control the music playback from the headphones?
Florida.
You could always buy the HTC Hero headphones from the HTC Shop?
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com
They also sell a convertor which would let you use any standard headphones whilst still having control and Mic.
Bump!
I would like some higher quality, noise isolation earphones. However, I would also like to be able to control music from the headphones like you can with the stock HTC set. Is that a standard thing? Will any headphones with music controls work?
So why not go for this -
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=184420
and then add whatever headphones you like.
You still haven't given us any idea of how much you're looking to spend, also, what style are you looking for? I've owned many sets of headphones, all of them in ear types. If that's what you're after, I can give you some advice, but, and not to labour the point, budget information is needed.
Florida
For me, price is not really the problem. I dunno - $50 to $150 U.S. That HTC accessory is cool and might just be the thing I'm looking for. Thanks for pointing it out.
Wait a sec, according to the specs this is going to plug into the USB port on the hero? I want it to plug into the 3.5mm jack just like the included headphones.
* Power: Uses power from device via 11-pin ExtUSB™ interface
* Dimensions (with clip): 49 (L) mm x 18 (W) mm x 14.0 (T) mm
* Interface: 11-pin ExtUSB™ male connector
* Standard 3.5mm audio jack
* Built-in Microphone
* 3.5mm Stereo earphones included
Why does it matter that it plugs into the USB port? Its got a 3.5mm jack on it so you can plug your headphones into it. I don't actually use one myself, I plug my headphones directly into the 3.5mm jack on the Hero and don't use any remote.
As to headphones in your price range, I'd look at ones by Etymotics, Shure and Ultimate Ears. If you can add another $50, I'd recommend the Ultimate Ears Super.fi 5 Pros (the pro version have a twin driver). I had a set up until about 6 - 12 months ago and they were really good. If you can't afford to go for those, then any by the 3 I mentioned in the upper end of your price bracket should give you a pretty good sound.
Be aware though, the headphones will be limited by both the quality of the music you've ripped (I wont touch anything below 320Kbps, but prefer FLAC (not really possible on the Hero though)) and also by the Hero itself. Although, from my occasional use, I don't find the Hero all that bad a music player. I stress I only use it occasionally though, normally I have my dedicated MP3 player with me.
Florida
Yeah, I'm not too worried about the sound quality. That is, I care - but I'm not an audiophile. I'm more after the noise isolation as I ride a lot of public transportation and walk through cities.
I didn't want it to plug into the usb port because then I can't charge and listen at the same time. Some how, the included headphones are able to control the music/phone through the 3.5mm jack. I'm surprised there are no "aftermarket" buds that can do that?
In which case you might be able to add one of these - http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=184417 to achieve the play and charge result.
Alternatively, if you fancy building something yourself, you could get one of these - http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=187492
cut the headphones off, expose the wires and add something like this to it - http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/DISTRIBUTED-BY-MCM-AV14955-/AR70498 and you SHOULD have exactly what you need. I've not made one myself.
As to headphones, take a look at the Shure SE110, I'm a big fan of Shure and had their entry level headphones about 4 years ago, really liked them then and have steadily upgraded since.
Florida
I tried iPhone 3GS headphone also, but it can only Play/Pause, but the mic doesn't work!!!!
I have another expensive one, Beats by Dr. Dre-Tours In-Ear headphones, it's the same as iphone headphone, mic doesn't work also.
I thought it problably because there's problem with my hero, but then, I tried the hero headphone....without any problem.....but I just don't like it!!!!
FloridaK said:
So why not go for this -
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=184420
and then add whatever headphones you like.
You still haven't given us any idea of how much you're looking to spend, also, what style are you looking for? I've owned many sets of headphones, all of them in ear types. If that's what you're after, I can give you some advice, but, and not to labour the point, budget information is needed.
Florida
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This one's a good choice. I'm satisfied with them
I want to buy ultimate ears headset with built in microphone. Does anyone if they would work with x10 mini ? It says works with iPod, iPhone, MP3 players.
I'm guessing not, as the X10mini/pro headset has extra connectors on the side (hence the keyhole shaped earphone socket)
If you can try before you buy that would be your best bet. Ive tried many that wont play sound out of the headphones much less use the mics. It seems like A LOT of headphones especially ones with mics don't work with the phone.
I bought headset from mytrendyphone.co.uk. I bought Jabra BT3030 and its really a best buy.
It all depends on the wiring standard thats used on the TRRS mini jack..
I think this is how it is on the X10 (and also iPhone, HTC, Blackberry etc..)
1 Tip Left Audio Out
2 Ring 1 Right Audio Out
3 Ring 2 Ground
4 Sleeve Microphone Input\answer button
I know Nokia have pin 3 and 4 swapped around so wont work with the X10, and there may be more out there but I think most are trying to standardise to the above setup.. so you shouldn´t have too much trouble finding a headset to work with the X10 (just stay away from Nokia)
(the extra bits next to the mini plug are just for powering the SE portable speakers and other SE crap you will be able to buy.. nothing to do with headsets)
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I'm guessing not, as the X10mini/pro headset has extra connectors on the side (hence the keyhole shaped earphone socket)
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It doesn´t. The original SE headset that came with my X10 mini pro has absolutely normal connector (despite the fact that the socket on the X10 mini pro is keyhole shaped), and no functionality is lost.
vlissine said:
It doesn´t. The original SE headset that came with my X10 mini pro has absolutely normal connector (despite the fact that the socket on the X10 mini pro is keyhole shaped), and no functionality is lost.
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Ahh, ok then. The headset that came with my X10mini (MH810) has the extra connectors, but also has an inline control (play/pause, next, prev, vol +/-), so perhaps the extra connectors drive those
Does anyone know a good headset like the MH810 that has music control and mic but also with removable headphones (normal mini jack)? would be nice to use over ear headphones in winter.. (was thinking of going for the MW600 BT, but would be happy with wired if anyone knows a good one?) needs to be able to change headphones.
I wanted to give these a shot :
http://www.urbanears.com/category/medis
They seem good quality, though a bit expensive, but don't know if they would work with the mini. I sent a mail to them asking if it would but didn't get any answer.
raphaelc said:
I wanted to give these a shot :
http://www.urbanears.com/category/medis
They seem good quality, though a bit expensive, but don't know if they would work with the mini. I sent a mail to them asking if it would but didn't get any answer.
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Looks like they come with a bunch of adaptors (to cater for all devices, even Nokia who went with a weird TRRS setup) so they should work on the mini.
I'm also pretty sure anything that will work for the iphone will work on the mini (same TRRS configuration) .. but I haven't tested this (it would certainly make it easier for us to find headsets) someone must have an iphone headset available to try out? so many sheep out there with those devices... (I'm living on the other side of the world at the moment to all my iphone junky friends so I can't test it myself )
Well, just got a mail from UrbanEars customer service :
Hi,
Thanks foru your mail. I´m sorry to say but Sony Ericsson Xperis X10 Mini is not compatible with Urbanears Medis.
Urbanears Medis is microphone and remote compatible with most devices from Nokia, Blackberry, HTC and iPhones.
So I won't buy them, don't want to take the risk even if there seems to be adapters.
Also, I bought UltimatEars headset with built in microphone (it says on the box it works with iPhone and most phones) and ... tada !! they don't work with the mini :-(
when I hook them up, the sound still just goes out the phone speakers, sound doesn't even come out of the headset.
So folks, I guess we're just stuck buying sony ericsson products when it comes to headsets.
raphaelc said:
Well, just got a mail from UrbanEars customer service :
Hi,
Thanks foru your mail. I´m sorry to say but Sony Ericsson Xperis X10 Mini is not compatible with Urbanears Medis.
Urbanears Medis is microphone and remote compatible with most devices from Nokia, Blackberry, HTC and iPhones.
So I won't buy them, don't want to take the risk even if there seems to be adapters.
Also, I bought UltimatEars headset with built in microphone (it says on the box it works with iPhone and most phones) and ... tada !! they don't work with the mini :-(
when I hook them up, the sound still just goes out the phone speakers, sound doesn't even come out of the headset.
So folks, I guess we're just stuck buying sony ericsson products when it comes to headsets.
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weird.. I was pretty sure the pin outs were the same as iPhone (according to various sites I looked at) shows you can't believe everything you read on the intertubes! bloody sony! I guess the best thing would be to find a SE headset with mic/control and stereo headphone socket.. then you can use any headphones.. the only SE ones I have seen are for the old style (hot port?) plug like the K850/W800 etc.. I haven't seen one with a normal TRRS plug yet I just got a MW600 BT set so I can use some decent headphones over BT but would be nice to find a wired option too.
BTW apart from the song titles and caller id not showing up on the MW600 the sound quality is pretty amazing, and it auto switches from listening to music from the X10mini to Skype calls from the laptop, and visa versa.. and on Ubuntu too! sweeeeeet!
I am thinking of getting one of those, but in reality I hate having to charge the headset. how much autonomy do you get with a full charge ? how long is a complete charge ?
raphaelc said:
I am thinking of getting one of those, but in reality I hate having to charge the headset. how much autonomy do you get with a full charge ? how long is a complete charge ?
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SE marketing claims about 10 hours Playtime/talk time and 520hrs standby! ... I only just unboxed mine yesterday so time will tell what the real world figures are.. (I mostly use it for music and not much for calls.. I hate looking like a **** talking to myself in public, but if I am driving, on the bike or skiing then headsets are o.k
I think full charge is a couple of hours.. and it comes with a wall charger (550mA) so thats my new phone charger next to the bed (as the Amperage delivered is better for the phone than the 850mA stock one) and it means the USB cable can stay with the laptop for charging both phone and headset when I'm traveling.
I'm pretty happy with the headset so far.. and if I eventually replace the X10 with something that supports track id and caller id over bluetooth.. then woot!
I have a set of these
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds205?lc=en&cc=au
they are the BOMB on x10mini
I have tried two iphone headsets they DO NOT work with mini. A lot of headsets don't in my experience. I wish the iphone headset worked because I like it more than the headset that came with the mini.
It actually doesnt even recognize them at all when you plug them in it continues to play sounds/music from the speaker.
I got HPM-60/J on ebay and they work(including mic).
Does anyone know earbud style (not noise cancellation) with mic that are Y shaped not around the back style(i dont know what its actually called but Se loves that kind)?
Basically I want iphone headset style that works on the mini.
The problem with iphone headsets in the X10mini is the Ground and Mic wire on the plug is opposite... so there is no ground wire for the headphones or mic, this means no sound can come out.
to make an adapter all you would have to do is chop the end off an old headset (either Sony or Iphone) with a few inches of cable to play with..
work out with a multimeter which pins are which cables T(tip)-R(ring)-R(ring)-S(sleeve) and solder on a TRRS socket (available from most good electronics shops) with the last Ring and the Sleeve reversed. (remember its tricky to solder this type of cable.. you need to scrape off some of the coloured insulation with a sharp knife or razor blade so the solder sticks to the bare copper)
if this is too difficult then buy a TRRS socket and TRRS plug from you electronics store and a piece of 4 core cable and join them (swapping the last Ring and Sleeve around)
I have seen the finished adaptors for sale online for about $15-$20 USD (might be worth the investment if you are not good with a soldering iron)
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r3m-r2f.htm
I had some hp headphones that used a seperate jack for the mike and they work perfectly with my mini pro as do all of the headphones I've tried it with.
But they might be different as the pro's headset that comes with no media controls except a button that will pause it.
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MH810 From SE are Great full Music control nice sound and CHEAP i love them!! better than the stock one
I plan to buy some cheap iphone mic headphones from ebay and mod it.
does anyone know the pin read outs on the sony plugs?
I just hate uing In-ear headphones for talking on skype. I can hear myself talking all the time.
I'll post pics of the mod here once i'm done.
SE seems to like those proprietary headphone sockets anyone know of a converter so we can use HTC/iPhone style headphones with mic?
My trusty skullcandy headset lies suddenly idle, and the SE headset is not the best headset i've tried.
the xperia mini have 3.5 audio jack, iPhone headset microphone might not work but you can listen to music on it still.
now the older lower ends se phones have the proprietary that your talking about with 3.5 jack on the other end.
correct me if I'm missing the point
The sk17 will only accept se style mic headsets, normal sound only headsets works fine. There are tons of nice headsets with mic that works in htc, samsung and iphone alike, so it's sad that se once again went with their own connection type
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oooohhh ic i never notice this bc i never use wired ones anymore just the stereo bluetooth ones. the ones that comes with the box never fits in the ear. i can only use the in ear buds.
but if you really appreciate music and sound the blue tooth still isn't better than hardwires no matter how much they cost it's just not possible.
nice heads up
i dont like those earbuds there horrible, i tried my iphone earphones (the ones with the volume keys and answer button) and it cam up with an error, i cant remember exactly what the error was. then the sound only comes out the speaker
hopefully someone might make a mod or hack that lets us use other earphones
luckily in india they bundle SE mini pro with a good inear ear phones .
try other normal 3.5 mm head set it should work fine , because AFAIK its iphone who have special jack , and not sony thats why the iphone one's dont work well.
iPhone has special plug yeah, but HTC and Samsung uses the same plug, so my Skullcandy FMJ's work flawlessly in my Galaxy tab, but not in my Mini pro (which is a lot easier to have in the pocket)
I believe alle we need is a small converter as i read somewhere (engadget i think) that Sony would be coming with a set of headphones for iphone/htc/samsung, that would work with the Xperia line through a converter cable bundled in the package.
So hopefully we'll find these on ebay soon!
Buy Koss and never look back
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Don't think it'll solve the problem of not having a mic on the cable.
Untill something with a mic comes out, i'll just stick with my Sony MDR-NC60.
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
I saw those a few days ago, and i've been considering them, but i''ll love to avoid another powersucker connected to my phone..
Anyone by any chance have the MH700 lying around and able to test them? They list the Arc and Ray as compatible phones, so should work with the Mini Pro, but would love a confirmation before i spend ~40$ on them.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mh700?cc=gb&lc=en#view=overview
They also list the x10 Mini Pro as compatible... if you still have the headset from your old Mini Pro, see if it will work with the new one. If it does, then the MH700 should work, too. Keep us posted, I'm curious about this as well.
dave
Thats a good idea, i'll see if i can dig em up, but i think my brother has em, and he's not really close by... but i think i got a work mate with the x10 mini aswell. I'll report bag as soon as i've testet.
edit: Just remembered the x10min got a special jack for the remote part, and wont fit in a normal 3.5mm jack
I don't remember what the extra jack on the x10 minipro was for, but the included headset didn't require it.
I can confirm that the headset from my old minipro also works with the new minipro and the remote button is fully functional... so, the MH700 headset *should* work, also.
dave
ak-a said:
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
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I got a MW600, but I find that it is not fully compatible with my xperia mini pro (SK17), indeed, before I had a c905 and there was information on the MW600 screen (like the hour when no music and the title of the music when playing). On my fast test on my xperia mini pro(SK17) those informations were not onscreen.
I feel your paid, My Apple headphones wouldn't work properly. Hell, SE's stock headset doesn't work with iPod/iPhone either.
A way to use those headsets/headphones is to plug it in incorrectly, like not all the way in, mess with it and you will eventually get clear sound but this is only for output sound, not for mic.
What I have also noticed is that if I press and hold the talk button or the center button, the sound goes through but who the hell wants to hold a button in order to listen to music? No one of course. If you plug it in all the way, chances are you will get a "incompatible assesory" error, either that or you will get really bad, low depth sound without holding the button.
It's basically SE's way of being like Apple, with Apples USB charging cable, etc.
Either way, the SE Xperia Mini Pro SK17a's stock headphones (whatever the model number is, does anyone still have it?) is good enough for me though.
Probably not for anyone else in the world
btw i need a few posts before posting in dev forum,
got a xperia mini pro,
i modded hpm-77 to 3.5 mm jack
not joke
just the wiring needed to be connected, everything works as the stock earphones
in the next post i attach a pic
not the nicest but it works
Nice work!
I recently found out it's the wiring that's just wonky on iphone/ipod, but because they have such a big marketshare almost every major headphone maker, makes their headsets iphone/ipod compatible.
I found this adaptor http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-adapte...MQ1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322052355&sr=8-1 that should make using iphone/ipod compatible headphones work on the Xperia line (and a couple of others), it has been dispatched from amazon today, so should have it end of this week or early next week. I'll report back about functionality.
Just received the adapter, and it works flawlessly!
My SkullCandy iphone headset now works with my Xperia Mini Pro, and damn what an improvement over the stock headset!
Ok, so I got G3 from a contract and gave it to little sis and she still uses her Beats earbuds so I was all happy with new pair of earbuds for free - but I tried it on 2 phones and cant get the sound right.
My Xperia Z2 - wont work, only left is working
Old ZTE Blade 3 phone - distorted sound, could barely get both buds to work if I wiggle the jack a bit
As I have seen these earbuds are sold separately and as a stand-alone product, Im wondering is there a difference in audio jack for a bundled version and stand-alone version .. ?
pleaste if you have them, try them on a non-LG device and tell me. Cause Im planing on replacing the 3.5mm jack if that is the case.
I wanna know that too...
And also
I bought some stand alone Quadbeats 2 for me and it sounded very bad compared to the ones a friend of mine had which came with his G3...
I wonder do they (LG) put the same work and dedication for both, or they are not caring for their stand alone products? Or the ones that I bought was fake?
Thank You
LG's approach to headphone audio is different from universal. Wanted to give my sister Quadbeats on her S4 because I got much better earbuds but Quadbeats just dont work for her. I experience the issue only on other phones than LG's.
Since I use third-party earbuds (Sony ones which are much better and more expensive) I have to plug and unplug them (5-10 times) until the phone recognizes them as standard headphones. Otherwise it would go wild launching google voice search, changing tracks, changing volume and stopping music every 3 seconds.
Get a pair of Sennheiser CX3.00 or CX5.00. Get the G version. They work excellent with the LG G3 and the sound is so much better then the Quadbeat headphones.
So, even though no one answered exactly my question I get the point - Im slicing them up. Putting regular 3.5mm jack while connecting only ground and L/R and dont care for the rest of the wires/buttons. Ah man, I love soldering.