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Hi all,
I love the Sony Tablet except its battery life. for something that is so huge compared to the others similar products out there, I am sure that they could have squeezed a bigger battery into the unit.
The power capacity is pretty weak. Let's hope that Sony offers a higher capacity battery size. I would gladly pay to upgrade it.
That's weird, my battery life is fantastic. If I play games on it all day it'll last 8-12 hours, but if I just use it intermittently and moderately it'll easily last me a couple of days. On standby it only uses a couple percent a day if that!
I'm the same as unclespoon. Even during heavy use, I get about 9 hours, which is way better than my old Galaxy Tab could ever muster. Standby usage is crazy low, its fantastic!
Not sure what you mean either about being larger than most other devices. The Tablet's 9.4" screen is smaller than almost any other full-size Tab out there (including the iPad) and since the back curves, theres not actually a lot of usable rear space (look at how thin its getting at the thin end, now imagine trying to fit a battery in there!)
I'm not sure you'll find a Tab out there currently with a better combo of size/battery life. The chunkier Toshiba Thrive will last longer, the thinner Galaxy Tab's will last even less, and my Tablet S always outlasts my iPad, so it might just be your device. Try checking Settings -> About -> Battery Use
I'm of the same opinion as the op. My tablet s has dreadful battery life and especially when it isn't doing anything. (50% usage is system standby) my old galaxy 7 was far far better (charged about once a week)
I believe this may just be because it is new (only have 1 full charge) as my galaxy s2 was initially unimpressive and then lasted 3 days of moderate use without charge. Hoping the same will happen to my s1.
Time will tell
My only guess was that you did a shoddy job of conditioning the battery. My old Galaxy Tab (the first 7" one) was hopeless, but when I replaced it, I conditioned the battery better and it was a bit better.
My Tablet S lasts for days and days and the standby usage is tiny. Check whats using your battery in the Battery Use screen and get back to us, we might be able to help..
I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
wintermute000 said:
I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
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I noticed that as well. If you have Advanced WiFi lock activated the tablet won't go into deep sleep mode, there of massive battery usage. I still have Advanced WiFi lock on my tablet, but only activate it when I need to download/update something that takes time. Otherwise I turn it off. It's not worth the battry drain.
Wow. Your battery life are fantastic. 9 hours? That's huge. I have not used my Sony Tablet till flat but given the rate of battery loss think maybe the most is about 5 hours which is similar to what many reviewers are saying.
Just can't imagine that those reviewers are so far out of the ball park compared to you guys. I am using juice defender Beta. Not to sure if its helping or not. But at least if I not using WiFi it shuts it off automatically.
My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
What are the settings that you have on your Tablet? Auto brightness, background sync turned off ?
how did you stop friendstream, and what the heck is it, did you just kill the process and it stayed dead? (sometimes as u know u kill process but it will come back).
Good question. What is the Android software revision now. My is Android 3.2.1 (revision 2)
I acutally just uninstalled the crap-app. nothing I use anyway. It is an app for facebook, twitter and other social networks. So just get rid of it. Uninstall and be happy
my bad. I confused the HTC name and Sony name.
Social Feed Reader was misbehaving. Once started it kept running... rather than dropping off to sleep (and into Cached Apps).
Something wasn't right so I force stopped it and it stayed dead.
An additional note - the Setup, Applications, Running Applications feature isn't 100%. Some background apps aren't displaying as running or Cached. Go figure.
So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
asayanna said:
My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
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good to know, thanks for sharing.
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I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
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Hi, that's good to know. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately think I screwed up the initial conditioning. so I guess I will have to live with the 5 hour battery of my Tablet.
Btw how do you do battery conditioning?
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So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
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In Setup, Applications, Running Services have a look at the awake time (listed on the right side) of the running processes. You'll note that system processes (the ones with the Android icon) have been awake since last boot.... but you might finds others that are as well. I noted Social Feed Reader showing high awake time and decided to nuke it. Simply click the offending app. You'll be given the option to stop the app... which is what I did. It's an app so doesn't restart once killed. Hope that helps...
Final thought: at the top right of the screen there's a 'Show cached processes' option.
The could be an offending app in there. Kill any installed app you suspect might be a problem and see if that helps.
my battery life is excellent.
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Hi All, I have been using the Xda for long time and I am a bit greed and I never register, yep that's right, hate plz come.
But anyway, I have used too many phones that I can't even remember.
Last couples of week, I got rid off my Nexus one and got A Razr, but the disparagement start right with the battery life!
First a few days, I was using only wifi, as one of my number does not has Web pack on it, and I notice a horrible battery performance on the device and I am
Later on, I activied my internet on phone and here comes my theory.
I notice the Wifi is always running for some reason on the background even if I set it as turn of when screen off, when I check the battery usage, it shows almost every second that wifi is on. That should not be right, it should turn it self off when screen off, and it is not doing that.
Second of all, later on, I noticed something like *WIFI* shows under battery usage, and I was thinking what the heck is that, cause there is another "WIFI" still showing, and also something called" .com.motorola.contact. something like that is waking the phone and using the wifi as well.
And there also something like"motorola.home" running and using wifi for ages. Very strange.
OK, then I went out today, yes, I most of the time stay @ home, na I am joking..
I am mostly in a place with WIFI, home, work place, and Uni. All wifi here and there. Today, I took train 3 hrs total out and back from Birmingham to London for those who like stories. it was 1:30 afternoon battery @ 80% then I listen to music for 1 hr and use whatsapp quite a bit(battery hunger app even on iOS)
On the way back I played GTA 3 for one good hour. and it is now 9PM, and 15% left, as later on I tweet a bit, web a bit. which is good, also I took underground so signal is not always there.
After all these my question is for those who had the battery drain, are U in a wifi enviornment quite a bit time and use wifi?
If so, set the wifi sleep policy to Never(this actually will help) and while not using wifi to use heavy data stuff, turn it OFF and see what happen.
Also turn off GPS espically if you have facebook on phone and also the using wirelsess connection for location, turn that off as well.
BTW the GPS on Razr is reallllllly fast on location, it took 5 second to find me from cold boot. Awesome.
And I don't use task killer or smart action, I think using sensor and active these sensor to save battery while they are using a lot juice is not so smart.
BTW: due to I am on and off subway, my iPhone4s dropped a good 15% without any use, it just sitting in my pocket. (as for now, Android is the fun bit, iOS is the backup, as it does hold battery better a bit...lol)
I am on 2.3.6 (651.167.19.XT910.retail.en.EU)
I flash the rom couple of times, it all shows me WIFI is doing some strange thing.
Today still draining and I use a data usage checker and find that moto blur is using a hug a mount of data, WTF!?
I find battery performance vastly better on wifi than 3G. Mine has had atrociously bad battery life recently, so I'm backtracking through stock ROMs to see if I can replicate the setup I got 5+ hours of screen-on time with.
Gotta love those updates. The sooner data works properly in custom ICS ROMs for the XT912, the better.
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before a week i got v3c with version want to extend battery does any one know if it comes with door ??
give us a link have a look? I am looking for the Maxx to replace on my normal razr
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I've been using SetCPU to create profiles on the ondemand governor and extrapolating from my general usage during commute, news/texts/im, fair amount of screen on time, I'm getting around 10% drain per hour which is fairly nice. With screen off and 3g running leaving the phone to idle, it drops to around 3-4% per hour which is significantly better from what I was getting right out of the box.
Battery test for Motorola RAZR XT910
Yesterday I decided to do a simple test with my new smartphone, a Motorola RAZR, I shall not charge until he get just 15% of battery remaining. So here I will put the results and thoughts about it.
8:00 AM: I woke up and took XT910 off the charger. Wi-fi was turned on;
8:00 - 9:00 AM: I passed one hour using Pulse to read some news, once or twice I shared some news in the Twitter and Facebook, with the Wi-fi on, of course. The Battery got 85%;
9:00 - 10:00 AM: I started to use Whatsapp to chat with a buddy, took at least 45 minutes of intensive use, battery got 70%;
10:00 - 11:00 AM: Cellphone in stand-by, BUT with the wi-fi on, waiting for someone, battery got 60% yet!;
11:00 - 12:00 AM: That one appeared, so I used Whatsapp again for 30 minutes, and battery got 50%;
12:00 AM - 2:00 PM: Two hours with the cells blocked, but still with wireless connection, 40%;
2:00 PM – 4:00 PM: Motorola in stand-by, now with the wi-fi turned off, so, in the first hour, he keep 40% and in the second, he got 30%;
4:00 PM – 5:15 PM: The final test, I passed just one hour playing Ceramic Destroyer without stopping, the battery got 15% and then the phone asked for charging!;
Well, the battery last for 8 hours with wi-fi turned on almost all time, so I think it's was fair, BUT, the battery status is a bit fake, I don't think that the information was correct, but, it works when is a simple test, you know, right?
We all know about the 1,2 Ghz processor, this drains a lot of battery, but the real villain is the connection, wi-fi or 3G, they both spend so much energy of the cel.
My last thought is... always charge your phone when it's possible, even if you don't use in an intensive form, I hope that you'll not have problems because a low-batterys cell phone.
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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keeb119 said:
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
I know theres is some apps that drains battery, one tip is just deactive the auto-sync with your accounts, other thing, I want a batterystatus app, to know better that stuff.
And I will try this connection app, thanks
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Man I even turned off my smart actions, so far I only turn on things when I am really using them. Auto-sync only with wifi!
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
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Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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keeb119 said:
Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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what did you kill?
there are some very important factors of battery draining follow
Display Timeout,Display Brightness,Bluetooth Inactivity
I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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what did you kill?
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In running processes, the vague media process. Auto starts and kills battery quickly.
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Mobzter said:
hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have added them to the list of battery tweaks!
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having battery drain issue, cell standby and over-counted are the main reasons showing in battery stats. how can i get rid of that? after full charge it takes 4 to 5 hours to plug in the charger again.
What are you showing us here? Looks to me like a mostly idle run over about 12 hours, getting roughly 2% per hour drain. That's a little higher than I usually see, but not horrible depending on conditions, especially if the small amount of use you did have was demanding. How much screen on time are you getting out of a full battery run?
I would suggest getting the app betterbatterystats (search xda) to get a better idea of what your issue is, if you actually have one...
Thanks for the reply. I was trying to say that why stand by time consuming that much percentage? Is that normal while data and wifi disabled? And what is that over-counted thing? As you said stand by time is little higher than normal and depends on condition. What kind of condition you're talking about?
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Thanks for the reply. I was trying to say that why stand by time consuming that much percentage? Is that normal while data and wifi disabled? And what is that over-counted thing? As you said stand by time is little higher than normal and depends on condition. What kind of condition you're talking about?
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I've never run with both data and Wi-Fi turned off (I use data for notifications when idle) so that might be higher than expected idle drain. I typically see 1 - 2% per hour drain in that configuration.
In my experience, you'll need to better narrow down the cause of the drain if you want to fix it. It may be due to weak cell signal (though your screen shot shows what appears to be decent signal), or possibly an app that frequently wakes in the background looking for a network connection. If that is the case, having data and Wi-Fi off may actually hurt your battery performance.
Get the BetterBatteryStats app, it will help you narrow down the cause.
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Great Rom, great battery life. I found couple of bugs.
1. No Voice Mail icon.
2. Screen doesn't come on sometime if using Google Now Launcher and Google Now is ON.
3. Service provider say Bell while I am with Virgin (Actually Bell owns Virgin but something I notice)
4. Back key size( check the picture attached)
Thanks for this great rom. (Liquid smooth 5.0.2 Dec 20)
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I've never run with both data and Wi-Fi turned off (I use data for notifications when idle) so that might be higher than expected idle drain. I typically see 1 - 2% per hour drain in that configuration.
In my experience, you'll need to better narrow down the cause of the drain if you want to fix it. It may be due to weak cell signal (though your screen shot shows what appears to be decent signal), or possibly an app that frequently wakes in the background looking for a network connection. If that is the case, having data and Wi-Fi off may actually hurt your battery performance.
Get the BetterBatteryStats app, it will help you narrow down the cause.
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thanks for the advise, i'll get the batterbatterystats app to find out more details about this issue.
dandrumheller said:
I've never run with both data and Wi-Fi turned off (I use data for notifications when idle) so that might be higher than expected idle drain. I typically see 1 - 2% per hour drain in that configuration.
In my experience, you'll need to better narrow down the cause of the drain if you want to fix it. It may be due to weak cell signal (though your screen shot shows what appears to be decent signal), or possibly an app that frequently wakes in the background looking for a network connection. If that is the case, having data and Wi-Fi off may actually hurt your battery performance.
Get the BetterBatteryStats app, it will help you narrow down the cause.
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codefly said:
Great Rom, great battery life. I found couple of bugs.
1. No Voice Mail icon.
2. Screen doesn't come on sometime if using Google Now Launcher and Google Now is ON.
3. Service provider say Bell while I am with Virgin (Actually Bell owns Virgin but something I notice)
4. Back key size( check the picture attached)
Thanks for this great rom. (Liquid smooth 5.0.2 Dec 20)
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you're right, this is very good rom and its running smooth with very few bugs but sooner they will fix those bugs
Great rom runi g smooth infact only lollipop rom that is running well on my optimus G keep up the great work
Hello the battery of my Note 8 was not that Great (4:30 Hours SOT) So I found a solution to battery issues and found a great solution.
1- From Setting Turn off :
Near By Device Scanning
Find My Mobile
Smart Capture
Direct Call
Those Sensors REALLY drains the battery and minimize screen on time.
2- Lower down the resolution to FHD Its not as bad as you think. (I am not sure if this saved my battery life but try it).
3- Delete Facebook Official App (or disable it) and install this App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nam.fbwrapper&hl=en
4- Delete Facebook messanger and install facebook messenger (Lite)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.mlite&hl=en
5- Disable The Edge Panel (Turn it off, The Edge panel is useful I know but it drains the battery so much and you can live without it with alternatives)
6- Go To App Permission from setting ---> Check the permissions to use location and turn off any app you do not want it to use your location.
7- Put Brightness should be just below the warning level (80%)
Now Check These steps please and Get back to me.
Before these steps on Wifi I used to get 4:30 SOT Now I get 6:15-6:30 Hours of SOT.
Note :
Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
We left home at same time, my wife's IP7P got 80% battery remained, mine is 30%.
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Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
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LMAO!! I guess I am a little insensitive to this as well. With quick charge , wireless quickcharge and what not I have never really worried to much about the battery life. I dont find the logic in buying an almost 1000 dollar phone full of features to then turn them all off and not use them. I would save the money and just get a Moto phone or an older LG if I was that worried.
Kinda like me complaining about my MSI gaming laptop only lasting 1.4 hours while playing Doom at ultra settings.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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I completely agree with you.
Three years ago i tested a guide from a guy that recommended using a combination of Greenify, Amplify and Power Nap. I did, and somehow i always responded late to messages, and my alarm would randomly wake me up 2 hours later than it's supposed to. Yes i had like 0.5% battery usage during night, 6h screen time, 48h battery life, but the phone wasnt doing anything the moment i put it on my pocket. Did i achieve anything, not really, i just learned the lesson that i stopped my phone from doing what it was supposed to do, and somehow created an anxiety if im missing out, checking my phone every 10 minutes if there was something that is not showing up.
Although, the original poster clearly stated i'd lose that functionality. The moment we twiddle around, it's always trial and error.
Ironically, i made a thread today on the General Android section for literary the same thing.
Battery life in this device is far from what it should be. Literary no recommendation around here proved any success for me. I factory reset twice, i reset all the app permissions, and i just recently rooted to make use of Greenify and similar apps, and im not gaining anything, literary nothing. In fact, this is the first time that rooting doesnt seem feasable, all the ad-blocking software that use root, somehow are useless compared to SABS, and now i wont ever be able to use it.
Every night i sleep with a 90-95% phone, and wake up with a 80-85% respectively, AOD is usually off at that time, and no battery statistics app seems to bloody see how the hell that 10% came to happen.
Never do i have brightness over 35-40%, AoD is scheduled, BLF is schduled (technically, this should add to saving), many apps are on either Samsungs Device Maintenance in always sleep mode, and those that are on the unmonitored ones never make a 5-10% combined daily. I do have the display to max resolution, cause hey, i've bought a device that has that resolution, if i was happy with 720p, id go with a 720p phone.
To whoever gets 4h SoT with 24h battery life, LUCKY BASTARD.
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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In case of this subject, I wouldn't say U are sarcastic - rather a mindopen consciousness user of high-end device ?
And I won't even use my sarcasm as I do enough of that dealing with users 'here and there' (I can assure it would be even more rough). I would fully understand purpose of sharing those so called 'tips&tricks' if there was something really improving the battery life or a list of unnececcery apps/services with some usage stats as a proof (I guess no need to say how many of such Samsung put on their flagships)... But taking 4-point list is like a joke and I honestly threat this thread as such.
My tip for OP - buy a car battery and adopt it for charging ur device will improve ur battery a mile?
With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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Sir, with all respect for OP and U, what kind of usuful 'tips&tricks' are here?? Then just please read few ROM threads and see what kind of bull**** is published without even reading an instructions on BASIC CUSTOM DEVELOPMENT USER. This thread is like a place, from where later some totally crazy issues and demands are born. There is Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and more, where this kind of show-off has it place, thx and sorry if U feel hurt :good:
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is especially helpful to the community. We should be encouraging thoughtful dialogue, not discouraging it.
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
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Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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I have tried this with QHD. 70% Brightness and its really Good.
Bear in mind this is on Wifi.
The only extreme thing is 720p admittly.
But I switched to QHD Battery is still a beast.
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is very helpful to the community.
Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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No prob.
I think i tweaked things up instead of using 720p I am using WQHD 70 PERCENT Brightness. I am not seeing much loss 2.30 Hours SOT at 63 percent is pretty Good.
There are a lot of useless features turned off like edge panel,direct call,near by device scanning. And installing alternative facebook apps really solved all issues.
Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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We are debating, that's what we're here for, some learn, some debate, that does not mean i don't acknowledge OP's efforts, just cause i don't agree with them does not make him a target, i clearly expressed that many of the tips are out of the question for most of the users.
I stood corrected in this place more than once, rather than pulling pride out, i chose to learn.
You really should sharpen up your standards about "*****ing and moaning", and maybe add some useful input we all could learn from.
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Yeah i tried the Lite's too, while Messenger is ok, the FB app itself felt like opening the Facebook page from my Symbian Nokia on 2005, that's time travel right there. Some people even use FB on Browsers...
I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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Oh YES! This is my heavy usage, and this is my moderate one, and i am not conservative at all in display resolution and stuff. Some people seem to get a lot better results however, but this is more then enough for me, even though i do a lot of tweaking here and there.
The biggest factory to battery life is your signal strength. If you have a ****ty carrier or you live in an area where the signal is weak you will have worse battery life then someone living in a city with a carrier like Verizon.
Also for the ultimate battery life turn your phone off at all times. Only turn it on when u need to make a call. Lasts days
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the OnePlus 8 Pro's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
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Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
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Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Fine allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Nice tips
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Nice tips
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Thank you sir.
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Thank you sir.
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Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
bodomfan said:
Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
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Was crapping myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
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Was sh*tting myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
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Cracking game though, I find android 11 open beta 1 charges really slow on a normal charger that's my only gripe with it, but battery is wow
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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I'd look in alarms / wakelocks for the cause of your battery drain.
I have more like 0,7% / hr standby, 1,5-2% over night.
Uninstalling Facebook and Messenger would probably take me to 0,5 / hr and 1,5% overnight. This app is a f**** disaster, but unfortunately it's required in my company (Fb groups).
JonnyJaap said:
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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Wake gestures, like lift to wake.. Keeps the phone from sleeping..
Also don't worry about location, maintaining a location is now efficient than obtaining it for all apps in one hit.
I've never turned location off besides for Google, I pause location history, far too creepy.
I have no facebook, instagram or messenger, the only social apps I have are telegram and snapchat.
I use betterbatterystats but there is just no app that keeps the phone awak all the time. I have no f*** idea why it sucks so hard.
It's super annoying.
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
dladz said:
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
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Agree
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Agree
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How's yours now?
I've just sent through all my apps and optimized all the ones I don't need running at full chat, also deleted some apps that may have been causing issues.
At the moment it's looking ok
3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
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3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
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This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
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This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
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It's 120hz FHD. I honestly can't see much of a difference between QHD and FHD so taking a battery hit doesn't seem worth it.
I'm currently heading for 12 hours here. Have just been using XDA and watching some videos. No gaming today, WhatsApp and telegram.
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I'm running blu-spark. Never used it before but it's idle performance is brilliant.
Very impressed. Also extremely low clocks 300mhz
Great tips from many members. My phone drains very minimally while standby.