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Hi,
I'm willing to buy a new Android phone.
I'm not so excited about the prices of current flagships models (S3, S4, Nexus, HTC One, etc.) but I like their hardware (obviously!).
About one month ago I discovered a whole bunch of Android phones from China. Their specs are amazing (beside the processors, MTKXXXX).
What I'm asking here is:
is there a phone from these China makers which has:
- a decent processor (not MTK series)
- current flagship phones hardware (1-2gb ram, quad core processor, decent front/back camera, various sensors, etc.)
- availability outside China (I'm from Italy)
- support for custom roms (like Cyanogenmod or any AOSP/AOKP)
?
Thank you
Take a look at Oppo, Meizu and the like. They have great specs and some models are made not only for China but for the rest of the world as well.
cippa lippa said:
thanks would like to see them...so why people buy sony,htc ecc yet?
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Biggest reason that most don't buy those phones is there is no trust of knock off devices.
OP you may find roms for them on other sites but you will not find any here.
Wayne Tech S-III
cippa lippa said:
thanks would like to see them...so why people buy sony,htc ecc yet?
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Also, not all of the Chinese smartphones are intended for external market.
Thank you for your answers.
I've asked this question because I'm interested in having a decent piece of hardware (I don't care if it's a knockoff of another phone or if it has original design) AND a ROM that is not the original one. I've read they're full of chinese bloatware and bugs, so the combination I'm looking for is a decent hardware and a rom made by other developers than chinese one (a cyanogenmod?)
But if there is no support here at XDA for any of these phones I think it's not worth to buy any one of those phones.
Bootlaoder language written in chinese
Hi,
I wanted to install ROM but after putting the tablet in bootloader mode, I discovered the language is Chinese. I took picture and is attached here. Any help interpreting or changing to English? This is just frustrating.
It one of those generic tablets made by Speed. The model is MB-Z5S.
Just read this http://www.phonedog.com/2013/08/18/...ing-to-update-u-s-models-by-end-of-september/
"What about the U.S. carrier-branded versions, you ask? Mackenzie has confirmed that they'll be bumped up to Android 4.3, too. That's not exactly a shock considering that the One is HTC's flagship smartphone, but it's still good to get word straight from the company itself. As for when all of these Android 4.3 updates will begin rolling out, Mackenzie says that HTC is aiming to have all U.S. SKUs of the One updated by the end of September."
4.3
I'm already on 4.3 and can say that the battery life is really good way better than 4.1.2 I'm on the google edition rom from android revolution and am loving the aosp lockscreen. The only thing I miss form sense is the camera and gallery app.
Ran across this image and wanted to share it with you guys . This is an ETA time sheet for the EMUI 3.0 update across Huawei devices and the american version of the Ascend Mate 2 4g (MT2-L03) is nowhere to be found . Though the other HAM2 models overseas are in the update plans . Sad to hear we are probably not likely going to get an update ! :thumbdown:
If this turns out to be true, this will likely be the last Huawei device I ever buy. They were 2 versions behind when they released it. A good custom rom will satisfy me though.
All the 3 MT2 listed in the chart are Chinese varies. But I agree Huawei has put MT2 to lower priority already. So hopefully they didn't list L03 just because that list is for domestic customers.
xordos said:
All the 3 MT2 listed in the chart are Chinese varies. But I agree Huawei has put MT2 to lower priority already. So hopefully they didn't list L03 just because that list is for domestic customers.
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Yea, this could be true (Was thinking that myself) . Time will tell , hopefully we see an update before new years on our HAM2.
foltz61 said:
If this turns out to be true, this will likely be the last Huawei device I ever buy. They were 2 versions behind when they released it. A good custom rom will satisfy me though.
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Agree! They are pushing very hard at promoting the HAM2 here in the US and I doubt that they would neglect any future OS updates as this is critical if they want to gain ground here in America . I'm sure they will , though they don't make those decisions here , their team in China does . That's why when people ask of they are gonna push an update they never give a concrete answer , just the typical " The HAM2 is upgradable and we will give out details when , if , it gets updated "
Not that big of a deal. Would it be nice? Yeah, but for my use, 4.3 is stable, runs everything I use.
If they did release 4.4, you know it would have some glitches out of the gate, which I would prefer not to
have. My Note1, which was replaced by the Mate2, I never got an "official" update past 4.1.2, and the custom
roms had some problems here or there. 4.1.2 was super stable.
I'll take an older stable version, over the new OS any day.
This could be the update to prepare for kit kat
http://blog.gethuawei.com/ascend-mate2-4g-lte-software-system-update/
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Thanks for the info, not sure this 20MB update requires unroot or not. hope not.
KitKat coming this November?
I came across an update schedule a while back browsing hauweinews dot com. Look for "EMUI 3.0 Release Schedule Announced."
HAM2 is supposed to get the EMUI 3.0 update this November.
The November release date is only currently confirmed for MT2-C00, MT2-L01,MT2-L02 and MT2-L05 I'm afraid. Rom will be available in November for these devices and OTA update will come in December.
Yea , like the previous post stated , only the Asian variants of the Mate2 have been confirmed . No word on our MT2-L03 yet . Happy that they will address low light photography with the update coming out on the 8th of this month though .. And other small fixes :thumbup:
I don't really care if we get EMUI 3.0. I just want KitKat with a newer version of EMUI to be able to access all the awesome themes. But EMUI 3.0 would obviously be cool Lol
EMUI 2 = Jellybean
EMUI 3 = Kit-Kat
isarebe said:
EMUI 2 = Jellybean
EMUI 3 = Kit-Kat
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That's not strictly true as I'm on kitkat 4.4.2 with EMUI 2.3
I'm confident the US Mate2 is going to get the update. This is the only nice phone they have in America with LTE and its the only phone they are promoting on www.gethuawei.com. As a general marketing rule its going to be forced to be updated. The new Huawei Models coming out still does not have US LTE (idots). The phone is now coming out in Frys Electronics and It is now also being sold on ConsumerCellular. The more people keep buying this phone the better support we will get. HuaweiUSA is trying to stay here so a simple email to [email protected] telling them to give u kitkat updated wount hurt either.
https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/PhoneDetails/572
http://www.frys.com/search?plusearch=8142655&utm_source=BANG&utm_medium=onlineads
According to the faq in one of the Huawei pages KitKat is coming to mt2l03 but they dont commit to any date :/
Enviado desde mi MT2-L03 HAM2 ... i'm lovin' it
Well, look at it this way, upgrading from like OS to like OS (4.3, 4.3, 4.3.x) isn't that big of a deal usually.
Updating from a .3 to a .4, JB>KK, may bring with it a whole host of issues.
I'd rather they give the update to the Chinese version, work out the kinks, BEFORE bring it it to the LTE version.
Better user experience.
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Well, look at it this way, upgrading from like OS to like OS (4.3, 4.3, 4.3.x) isn't that big of a deal usually.
Updating from a .3 to a .4, JB>KK, may bring with it a whole host of issues.
I'd rather they give the update to the Chinese version, work out the kinks, BEFORE bring it it to the LTE version.
Better user experience.
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There are 5 carrier versions of the Chinese Mate 2, they are ALL LTE apart from the MT2-C00.
I am yet to find any kinks in KK.
No fc's, lags or anything else, it's been a rock solid experience so far. Hopefully you will get it soon. :good:
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There are 5 carrier versions of the Chinese Mate 2, they are ALL LTE apart from the MT2-C00.
I am yet to find any kinks in KK.
No fc's, lags or anything else, it's been a rock solid experience so far. Hopefully you will get it soon. :good:
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Perhaps, but, it's not a "game changer" for me. I don't really expect "significant" updates for devices from carriers or
manufacturers, save for Apple, because, if you think about it, it sort of goes against their business model. If a huge update
is pushed out, there is no incentive to buy a new device. Right now, the stock OS on the (U.S.) Mate2 is about one of the
most stable that I have come across.
p51d007 said:
Perhaps, but, it's not a "game changer" for me. I don't really expect "significant" updates for devices from carriers or
manufacturers, save for Apple, because, if you think about it, it sort of goes against their business model. If a huge update
is pushed out, there is no incentive to buy a new device. Right now, the stock OS on the (U.S.) Mate2 is about one of the
most stable that I have come across.
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True, the Mate 2 is running well, but I own a lot of devices, all but the Mate 2 running 4.4.2 or higher. Stability has not been an issue as they all run without any issues. That being said the improvements made in Kit Kat have been rolled into the the apps themselves in 4.3. The cosmetic differences can be added rooting, with framework etc. The only thing I really notice is my emolge are black and white in any other apps besides Hangouts. That being said, Android L running ART could be a great impact on better performance, so getting the Kit Kat update would be nice to see too as well as continuing updates. I have older devices, S3 on StraighTalk for example that has never gotten an update in 2 years. Can't run some of the apps I use. Lg L86C, same boat, almost 400 bucks for that phone 2 years ago, never got an update, can't even run Google now launcher or Google wear. No emolge support at all. Those are both phones that would see great benefits in running Kit Kat with the lower ram and specifications. If the Ham 2 goes that route it would be my last phone from Huawei. Let's hope they continue to support the devices they make for at least 2 years. That would be satisfactory to me.
The Oneplus 2 has been available for reservation on jd.com, a site similar to Amazon, in China for the past week. Over 400,000 people reserved the phone. A reservation allowed the purchase of the phone starting 9:30am this morning. I managed to snag one and should take delivery of it later this afternoon. I was a bit disappointed to find out that it comes with HydrogenOS instead of OxygenOS. However, I'm sure that can be rectified in the near future. I purchased the 64GB model for 2399RMB, about $385USD.
Anyone else living in or ordering from China managed to get their hands on one?
EDIT: It just arrived. The build quality is impressive, especially coming from an LG G3. The accuracy of the fingerprint sensor in my brief tests was good, and I like the ability to unlock from standby. Not a fan of HydrogenOS, but I can see that it might have some appeal to people who like a more minimalistic android experience.
i also live in china and thinking to buy it ,i am just curious about camera quality and how much different hydrogen OS from Oxygen OS?
@khr0n0s Please post Antutu Benchmark results and Camera samples.Also comment on charging time and battery life.
I was gonna buy this or the new moto X, was inclining towards the moto X which would release in September, but now I am thinking that I'll just wait for the new OnePlus phone coming later this year. A company executive said that that phone would be the 'premium' phone, and that u don't think they are gonna add more than 200 $s (which would add up to the same price as the 64gb moto X style) to the price tag no matter how Premium they make it. Also, it is likely that that one will have the snapdragon 820 and a 2k screen. I hope this one has no hardware issues so I can be much more confident in waiting for the upcoming one, knowing that it likely won't have much hardware issues as well.
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@ali_ge - You might have difficulty getting hold of one. I was just lucky. They sold 30,000 units in 64 seconds! HydrogenOS is very simple and has no home screens / widgets. The phone boots up in to an app drawer with a large clock at the top. Not many options to customise. It also has no google apps, but that is no different to any other Chinese handset. There is an english language option, but there is still quite a lot of Chinese notifications especially in the bundled apps. I will definitely be switching to OxygenOS when a ROM becomes available.
@bhu1 - Has the premium one plus been officially announced yet? I read an interview with Carl Pei in which he said it would be more about style than specs, but it was very vague. Even if they do release it later this year, if they use the same invite system then it will be difficult to get hold of for a few months.
@vaisakh7 - I'm at work now without the phone. I can post the benchmark and sample pictures this evening. I don't plan to use the phone as my main handset till I can install a custom recovery and flash with OxygenOS. This makes measuring charging time and battery life difficult.
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@ali_ge - You might have difficulty getting hold of one. I was just lucky. They sold 30,000 units in 64 seconds! HydrogenOS is very simple and has no home screens / widgets. The phone boots up in to an app drawer with a large clock at the top. Not many options to customise. It also has no google apps, but that is no different to any other Chinese handset. There is an english language option, but there is still quite a lot of Chinese notifications especially in the bundled apps. I will definitely be switching to OxygenOS when a ROM becomes available.
@bhu1 - Has the premium one plus been officially announced yet? I read an interview with Carl Pei in which he said it would be more about style than specs, but it was very vague. Even if they do release it later this year, if they use the same invite system then it will be difficult to get hold of for a few months.
@vaisakh7 - I'm at work now without the phone. I can post the benchmark and sample pictures this evening. I don't plan to use the phone as my main handset till I can install a custom recovery and flash with OxygenOS. This makes measuring charging time and battery life difficult.
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thank you for you quick reply
what think about camera performance as compare to lg g3 and are you sure that we can switch rom to Oxygen OS
ali_ge said:
thank you for you quick reply
what think about camera performance as compare to lg g3 and are you sure that we can switch rom to Oxygen OS
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Well yeah. Bootloader can be unlocked even now.. The thing is that we don't have factory image of OxygenOS yet.. As soon as we get it, we can flash it via fastboot.. Or we have to wait till International Version of OP2 goes on sale.. Then someone can easily upload the ROM Zip and we can flash it after unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery (we will have to wait a week atleast for a custom recovery imo) ... Or we can still do via fastboot but that will require extra efforts...
So hope OnePlus releases factory images of OxygenOS as soon as possible.
Is it possible also to unlock all international WCDMA/LTE bands when flashing OxygenOS on chinese version?
Naman Bhalla said:
Well yeah. Bootloader can be unlocked even now.. The thing is that we don't have factory image of OxygenOS yet.. As soon as we get it, we can flash it via fastboot.. Or we have to wait till International Version of OP2 goes on sale.. Then someone can easily upload the ROM Zip and we can flash it after unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery (we will have to wait a week atleast for a custom recovery imo) ... Or we can still do via fastboot but that will require extra efforts...
So hope OnePlus releases factory images of OxygenOS as soon as possible.
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:fingers-crossed: good, now i have to wait till 8 aug or 12 aug to get mine
nicknova said:
Is it possible also to unlock all international WCDMA/LTE bands when flashing OxygenOS on chinese version?
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You don't have to unlock anything as it works just fine out of the box. I also ordered a 64GB version from Aliexpress.
edit: ok, LTE bands B5, B8 and B20 is not supported, but it is not a big deal for me as I mainly use B3 and B7.
I'm curious about the Antutu Benchmark, camera output and battery life.. OP, if you could posts more details, that would be great..
@Mermaidss @Aisakh7 @riyadh - AnTuTu benchmark as requested:
Here are some sample images. I think the camera is as good as LG G3.
For comparison, here is a low light photo from the LG G3 running Cyanogenmod:
OnePlus 2 running HydrogenOS:
Both images were taken using default settings. The OnePlus 2 is darker but more natural.
Pretty good!
@khr0n0s Many thanks for your valuable time mate!
Tapped from my furious dogo
Does the device get hot after long usage or gaming?
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I bought 64GB Version from Aliexpress today, I hope I will get it relatively fast.
Give me best seller on alieexpress who not lie , I'm afraid sellers not trust , because if my money gone for wrong people, I can't buy new smartphone again
TWRP and custom HydrogenOS ROM are now available on oneplusbbs
http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-846120-1-1.html
EDIT: OxygenOS ROM available here
khr0n0s said:
@Mermaidss @Aisakh7 @riyadh - AnTuTu benchmark as requested:
Here are some sample images. I think the camera is as good as LG G3.
For comparison, here is a low light photo from the LG G3 running Cyanogenmod:
OnePlus 2 running HydrogenOS:
Both images were taken using default settings. The OnePlus 2 is darker but more natural.
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hi try one more thing the manual camera app(https://play.google.com/store/apps/...a2_compatibility_test&hl=en):fingers-crossed:, Does it support camera api 2.0
khr0n0s said:
TWRP and custom HydrogenOS ROM are now available on oneplusbbs
http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-846120-1-1.html
EDIT: OxygenOS ROM available here
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OP, please install this and let us know!
hopefully the oneplus 2 china version situation is same as oneplus one, the hardware was the same but the band support was actually controlled by the rom (the radio I assume).
Well custom rom/kernel development for this device was pathetic enough now the ****ty people at asustek decided
not to update the ultra to oreo. They just updated zenfone deluxe and posted @ zentalk fourms that ultra will not be getting the oreo. Reasoing : in order to ensure the stability of ZU680KL system and user's best experience,
the company finally decided not to plan further software update to Android 8.0 system which
caused inconvenience. We are very sorry thank you for your ASUS product. Support . Well i request u all to send email or contact the asustek in anyway and make them to update the ultra to oreo . What a shame. Its one of the better devices i have owned screenshot of conversation is attached. :crying::crying:
Just awesome. I'll never buy anything from Asus ever again.
What a bunch of crooks and liars. Shame on them.
F*ck Asus. Was waiting for Oreo update for my ultra.
Well this surely pisses me off!
I'm officially learning how to build Android for our phone. I only have a few years coding experience, but I'm going to give it my all. Wish me luck boys.
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I'm officially learning how to build Android for our phone. I only have a few years coding experience, but I'm going to give it my all. Wish me luck boys.
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all the best-good luck!
while i had this device, I tried to port miui eu (deodexed) from the mi max 2 pro (same processor, resolution, graphics) but could only get to mi boot animation. Not many resources out there (mostly old and understand porting is a very case-by-case task)
might get interested in the device again if some rom development starts. Weird as it has a qcom processor but all interest is in samsung, sony, and even some smaller Chinese brands but not this one. (6.8 screen maybe) admit i have very little knowledge if any on development but tried it anyway
So that certainly means kiss off Android p. Asus definitely doesn't mind stepping on their own crank. Such a great / fast device, but it was almost abandoned from the first few months.
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hillg001 said:
So that certainly means kiss off Android p. Asus definitely doesn't mind stepping on their own crank. Such a great / fast device, but it was almost abandoned from the first few months.
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agree 100%...asus is an apt name for the company (in a way)
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Well custom rom/kernel development for this device was pathetic enough now the ****ty people at asustek decided
not to update the ultra to oreo. They just updated zenfone deluxe and posted @ zentalk fourms that ultra will not be getting the oreo. Reasoing : in order to ensure the stability of ZU680KL system and user's best experience,
the company finally decided not to plan further software update to Android 8.0 system which
caused inconvenience. We are very sorry thank you for your ASUS product. Support . Well i request u all to send email or contact the asustek in anyway and make them to update the ultra to oreo . What a shame. Its one of the better devices i have owned screenshot of conversation is attached. :crying::crying:
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Boycotting Asus pissed off...
What about rumors that Zenfone3 Ultra at last will get 8.1Oreo upgrade? Lot's messages everywhere around Jan 3rd 2019 and no word from ASUS.
Any clues?
C.MD said:
What about rumors that Zenfone3 Ultra at last will get 8.1Oreo upgrade? Lot's messages everywhere around Jan 3rd 2019 and no word from ASUS.
Any clues?
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Asus might release Android 8.1 Oreo for Zenfone 3 Ultra smartphone
Read more at: https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/news/...1-oreo-zenfone-3-ultra-smartphone-056555.html
https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/news/...1-oreo-zenfone-3-ultra-smartphone-056555.html
Yeah .. Might.
Will cross my fingers and wait. Maybe trouble with blurry and no focusing camera will be fixed at last with new update. Or not. It's ASUS