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Hey forum. I don't know about you but I hate how the puzzle unlock show up every time my screen turns off. Even if it's turned off for a second. If I remember correctly, my old ipod touch had a setting where you can have the unlock screen only come up after the device's screen had been off for a certain amount of time. I tried to find it in the vibrant settings but didn't see anything so I turned off the unlock security altogether. This past weekend i was messing with my friends droid x and it was doing what I wanted my vibrant to do.
Is there a way to set some kind of timer so the puzzle unlock only shows up when the screen is off for 5/10/15 minutes?
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in hit the lower left button go to setting hit that hit the display there you can change the screen timeout to 1-2 or 10 minutes and there (depending on your rom) you can change the screen lock as well
Sorry. When I said puzzle unlock, I meant pattern unlock. Im not trying to set the diplay off timer. I want to actually set a time for the pattern unlock so it doesnt come up every time my screen goes to sleep. I want to set it so that the security pattern unlock only shows up after my phones display has been off for five min. If I happen to turn on my phone before the 5 min, I want it to be the rugular slide android unlock. Sorry if I'm being unclear.
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dandab said:
Sorry. When I said puzzle unlock, I meant pattern unlock. Im not trying to set the diplay off timer. I want to actually set a time for the pattern unlock so it doesnt come up every time my screen goes to sleep. I want to set it so that the security pattern unlock only shows up after my phones display has been off for five min. If I happen to turn on my phone before the 5 min, I want it to be the rugular slide android unlock. Sorry if I'm being unclear.
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I don't think there is a way to disable it. There is a app called Widget locker that will let you put icons on your home screen. That way when your screen turns on just tap the app on your home screen with out unlocking your phone.
Hope this helps a little
nomadrider123 said:
I don't think there is a way to disable it. There is a app called Widget locker that will let you put icons on your home screen. That way when your screen turns on just tap the app on your home screen with out unlocking your phone.
Hope this helps a little
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Just to clarify, widget locker is a replacement lock screen. It'll replace your current one.
I'd also recommend trying nolock, which removes the lockscreen altogether (not sure about a pattern unlock though)
Since I don't use a pattern unlock, I'm not quite sure how to help otherwise.
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Yea. If it gets to the point where I have to download an app, I think I'll just have to suck it up and live with it. I'll try to check out my friends phone the next time I see him to see if he's got a setting on his droid. And btw I'm using bionixV. Thanks
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Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued.
Actually I dont, but thanks for the info
Go to
Settings/location and security/timeout
And set the lock screen to immediately
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jank0023 said:
DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued.
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A fix has not been issued but a workaround has been.
I have a feeling none of you will like the actual fix. The work around more like a fix. The only bug here is the pattern unlock screen showed up when it shouldn't. And it has nothing to do with security breach or not.
mtorre5 said:
Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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NO WAY! I'm so glad you pointed this out for all of the rest of us.
dayv said:
Go to
Settings/location and security/timeout
And set the lock screen to immediately
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Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!!
my personal fix was to use No Lock to turn off that stupid swipe thing, and added WidgetLocker.
moopile said:
Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!!
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No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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Dxtra said:
No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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I set my timeout to "Immediately", let the screen go off, and have to enter pattern to get back in.
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No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately:
1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern.
2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off.
3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern.
3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone.
The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen.
This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway.
foxbat121 said:
Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately:
1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern.
2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off.
3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern.
3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone.
The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen.
This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway.
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Have you actually gave this try. I completely understand how the time out period works and I guess we all do, but your not getting where the bugs are in plural because there's two I found.
Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in
Bug 2. If you set time out to immediately. The Password protection lockscreen disabled right after you unlock your phone.
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Dxtra said:
Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in
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That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately.
I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock.
Don't understand what your mean in bug #2.
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That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately.
I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock.
Don't understand what your mean in bug #2.
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Dude, it's buggy period. Before you even go any further. Give the lock screen a try. It's all around the Internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbjr4tf_Nk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read.
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I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read.
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I like the feature; same as on Honeycomb.
I feel annoyed whenever I want to have pattern lock on, because that means I have to press the top button to turn on the phone, then unlock the phone iwth the HTC ring, then use my pattern?
I was with a buddy today and he has the SGII on Rogers, and he doesn't have a lock screen if he decides to use pattern.
Anyway around this?
If you use a nonsense rom I think the ring lock is gone there may also be tweaks for this. I must admit I lol'd to the 'is this real life??' I haven't looked into it much besides that. On the bright side, with it set up this way you can still control music from the 'lock screen' unlike if there was just the pattern. From what I know.
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There is an app I use called NoLock that disables this. I think you have to run it every time you reboot, though.
Edit: Not sure if it will disable the pattern lock as well or not, I prefer no lock screen at all.
brokenwatch said:
There is an app I use called NoLock that disables this. I think you have to run it every time you reboot, though.
Edit: Not sure if it will disable the pattern lock as well or not, I prefer no lock screen at all.
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You cant use any other lock with that app. :<
feels bad man
I have noticed that my SGSIII is rebooting in my pocket so upon investigation it is being caused by the power button being pressed for a long period. Even if the screen is locked it's still active and reboots.
Is there a way of disabling this??
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Yeah I'm having this issue too. Quite annoying!
On top of that it seems to be frequently unlocking in my pocket and launching all sorts of apps. I have a few pictures of the inside of my pocket too
Setting a PIN lock has stopped the random unlocking but the frequent reboots are still a problem.
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I suggest you guys install widgetlocker app. It's phenomenal! You can delay your pin locking, and for safety reasons, but still, screen will be locked as per normal use and you'll have to drag icon to unlock it. Very good application and very helpful.
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bednim said:
I suggest you guys install widgetlocker app. It's phenomenal! You can delay your pin locking, and for safety reasons, but still, screen will be locked as per normal use and you'll have to drag icon to unlock it. Very good application and very helpful.
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Thanks Bednim. I should have stated though - I already have Widget Locker installed. Still getting the random unlocks though.
Also Widget Locker unfortunately doesn't stop the reboots.
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That's very strange... Since I got widget locker, my phone finally stays locked without ringing people while in pocket so I would thought that this would sort your problem?
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I do have the same porblem and by using secure pattern or pin the pocket unlocking problem been fixed, but rebooting problem still.
any updates about this problem? or work around other than widgets?
Yeah PIN lock stopped the pocket pictures and random app launches for me but still getting the random reboots reasonably frequently. It's quite annoying tbh. The only thing stopping it being a deal breaker for me is the fact that it boots so damn quick - turns what could be a major issue into merely a mild annoyance.
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I found that without a PIN or Pattern, the Notification area can be pulled down and items toggled on and off there too. I had to set a Pattern.
Widget locker is good, I bought that but haven't installed it on the S3 yet.
The simple user experience of unlocking the device on is so bad on Pixel 6. There's just no winning option.
Smart Lock randomly kicks in, so I can't be sure that a single tap of the screen will turn on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor sucks, and requires a tap on the screen just to bring it up. And sometimes I don't even get the option to use my fingerprint.
I don't even like the single-tap gesture to begin with. It means I'm accidentally turning my screen on all the time just when carrying the phone. It almost started a call with my deadbeat father, who I haven't talked to in 20 years
I could go with no screen lock but then I'm locked out of several key features (like viewing my account passwords). Also, pressing the Power button at all on a phone this big is cumbersome, since I then have to reposition my entire hand to go from pressing it to then interacting with the screen.
I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side. Now I'm hoping modders can fix the unlocking experience because it's the next big issue in my mind.
The fingerprint scanner is actually very good if you set it up right, and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
turbosrrgood said:
The fingerprint scanner is actually very good if you set it up right, and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
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Or lift to check turned on rather than AOD.
turbosrrgood said:
...and will always be displayed with always on display... No tap required. Problem solved
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This is not my experience at all. Sometimes I get a fingerprint sensor icon. Other times my phone is unlocked via Smart Lock and I get an Unlock icon in place of the fingerprint sensor. Other times I get a Lock icon indicating Smart Lock is expired. Other times I get no icon there at all.
If the fingerprint sensor is there and I'm on the dimmed screen, sometimes it'll just light up and deny, and other times it won't even acknowledge that I've put my finger on the sensor.
If the Unlock icon is there, it requires a tap to unlock (no holding!). So that means I have to actually look at the screen and discern which icon is there to know whether I need to tap or hold.
And Lift to Check Phone would be even more problematic for me, since I'm trying to avoid accidental screen interactions and this would only cause more.
On all my other Pixel phones I just touch the back fingerprint sensor and the phone is on. I don't have to think about a dozen different possible states the phone could be in every time I want to turn it on.
Have you tried to recalibrate it via the Pixel tool thing Google has?
Google Pixel - Update and Software Repair
gavingt said:
The simple user experience of unlocking the device on is so bad on Pixel 6. There's just no winning option.
Smart Lock randomly kicks in, so I can't be sure that a single tap of the screen will turn on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor sucks, and requires a tap on the screen just to bring it up. And sometimes I don't even get the option to use my fingerprint.
I don't even like the single-tap gesture to begin with. It means I'm accidentally turning my screen on all the time just when carrying the phone. It almost started a call with my deadbeat father, who I haven't talked to in 20 years
I could go with no screen lock but then I'm locked out of several key features (like viewing my account passwords). Also, pressing the Power button at all on a phone this big is cumbersome, since I then have to reposition my entire hand to go from pressing it to then interacting with the screen.
I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side. Now I'm hoping modders can fix the unlocking experience because it's the next big issue in my mind.
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It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
If you changed the Animation Scale in Developer Settings then the AOD fingerprint icon can disappear.
turbosrrgood said:
It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
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I never used to use Smart Lock, but on this phone it means I don't have to deal with the inconsistent fingerprint sensor as often.
gavingt said:
I never used to use Smart Lock, but on this phone it means I don't have to deal with the inconsistent fingerprint sensor as often.
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Try setting up the fingerprint scanner again, slightly moving your finger with ever press during set up to get every angle and view of the print. It's been pretty much perfect for me. I suppose Google could have helped instruct people to do that better in the process.
turbosrrgood said:
It sounds like smartlock working as intended (which I find useless, and poor security). It will give you an unlock icon instead of the fingerprint. Maybe you simply don't want smart unlock, which is more useful for password only. This seems like more of a matter of figuring out what features you want to use.
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I just restarted my phone, and then repeatedly unlocked and locked it (sometimes by fingerprint, sometimes by tapping). By the end of the video, the fingerprint sensor icon disappeared completely and wouldn't come back until after another restart:
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This is just one example of the inconsistencies. I haven't changed the animation settings either.
I did see it happen a couple of times in your stream. I don't recall seeing that on mine, but I haven't been looking for it. The only other thing I can suggest is make sure you have the latest updates and/or factory reset.
Edit - I tried to replicate your stream, and the sensor showed in all 30 attempts for me. For whatever it's worth, so might be something specific to your device, maybe settings or software issue
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I did see it happen a couple of times in your stream. I don't recall seeing that on mine, but I haven't been looking for it. The only other thing I can suggest is make sure you have the latest updates and/or factory reset.
Edit - I tried to replicate your stream, and the sensor showed in all 30 attempts for me. For whatever it's worth, so might be something specific to your device, maybe settings or software issue
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It could be a bug related to my specific settings:
Rooted device, still on the October update
Lock after screen timeout: 30 minutes
Power button locks instantly: Off
gavingt said:
I just restarted my phone, and then repeatedly unlocked and locked it (sometimes by fingerprint, sometimes by tapping). By the end of the video, the fingerprint sensor icon disappeared completely and wouldn't come back until after another restart:
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This is just one example of the inconsistencies. I haven't changed the animation settings either.
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what are you going on about lol. this is the kind of nonsense that is so irritating. you had 100% success rate unlocking your phone. what's the problem. looks to me like it works. so what's the big deal. and then you have the gall to complain that the sensor icon disappeared after you repeatedly locked and unlocked your phone? yea. try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
kramer987 said:
what are you going on about lol. this is the kind of nonsense that is so irritating. you had 100% success rate unlocking your phone. what's the problem. looks to me like it works. so what's the big deal. and then you have the gall to complain that the sensor icon disappeared after you repeatedly locked and unlocked your phone? yea. try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
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Sure, ignore my multiple posts on the subject. It's not nonsense. I have no idea why you're trying to minimize this, and why you feel the need to be so combative.
gavingt said:
I'm already rooted because I absolutely needed the Back button to be on the right side.
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You know gesture navigation is a thing now right? Back buttons are so "last decade".
sic0048 said:
You know gesture navigation is a thing now right? Back buttons are so "last decade".
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Yes, I know and I hate it. It's extra motion that tires out my hand and I often trigger the gestures when I don't mean to.
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Sure, ignore my multiple posts on the subject. It's not nonsense. I have no idea why you're trying to minimize this, and why you feel the need to be so combative.
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i will just apologize and go on with my day. good luck with the phone.
I went ahead and updated to the November firmware, and wiped my data as well. Now my phone won't show the fingerprint sensor while unlocking under any circumstances. I also found an interesting bug wherein I'm still able to turn my screen on by tapping it repeatedly even with "Tap to check phone" disabled:
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EDIT: And, of course, as I was typing this the fingerprint sensor just magically came back. And it still doesn't work unless I tap the dimmed screen to wake it first. Watch as it straight up ignores my finger the first time:
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I can recreate this 100% of the time by just setting my phone down for a second and picking it back up, then trying to unlock it. And you can't see it in the video, but the sensor doesn't even light up the first time I touch it. This is clearly a software bug.
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I went ahead and updated to the November firmware, and wiped my data as well. Now my phone won't show the fingerprint sensor while unlocking under any circumstances. I also found an interesting bug wherein I'm still able to turn my screen on by tapping it repeatedly even with "Tap to check phone" disabled:
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EDIT: And, of course, as I was typing this the fingerprint sensor just magically came back. And it still doesn't work unless I tap the dimmed screen to wake it first. Watch as it straight up ignores my finger the first time:
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I can recreate this 100% of the time by just setting my phone down for a second and picking it back up, then trying to unlock it.
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but at least we know you like dunkin donuts, dominos pizza, and your mom forgets stuff
kramer987 said:
try starting your car repeatedly. see what happens with the engine.
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Guess you don't know anything about cars. You can start and stop a fuel injected car until the battery dies, and nothing will happen to the engine or fuel system. (Yes, the battery will die if you keep starting the car and tuning it off right away) Just as proof of this, most modern cars shut off the engine when you come to a stop, and restart when you let off the brake. If you're in stop and go traffic, the engine will shut off and turn on repeatedly in a short amount of time nd distance.
Now with classic cars and motorcycles, you my flood the carb with repeated starts. Not a big deal, and not any kind of damage.
The only "damage" in repeatedly starting a car would be normal wear and tear on the starter. They do have a finite lifespan. But again, not damage, just use.