Related
ok, so i just rooted and unlocked my phone, and i am gonna start removing some bloatware from the phone, but am concerned because i don't want to delete an app that i think is bloatware, but it is tied into another appp and then both apps won't work.
for example, if i delete viewdini, i don't know if that will affect how i watch videos on the phone.
so what i am asking is basically if there is a list of all the stock samsung/amazon/google/verizon bloatware apps that i can safely delete?
thanks!
just downloaded the file from the cleanrom build of what scott removed... is it safe to say if i remove these i will be ok?
The pro version of titanium backup is ideal for this. You can freeze apps before you remove them to find out if they're important or not. I don't know of an official cheat sheet of what's safe to remove but if you look at ROMs and what the devs have removed, that's a good start to let you know what you can do without.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
If you delete an application you will NOT get Verizon phone updates. It's better to freeze the applications with Titanium Backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298150
this thread contains a list of apps safe that are supposed to be safe to remove. remove them at your own risk.
Excellent, thank you all for the help! I deleted the obvious bloatware last night, I will delve into the others at a later time.
a.demarco said:
Excellent, thank you all for the help! I deleted the obvious bloatware last night, I will delve into the others at a later time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Deleted or froze? If you deleted you better habe a backup or you wont get Verizon updates.
Sent from my Rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 using xda premium
steveperrry said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298150
this thread contains a list of apps safe that are supposed to be safe to remove. remove them at your own risk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've just rooted my device for the first time, I'm using Titanium Pro to freeze stuff on this list (I figured freezing would be safest being a noob)...but more than half of them dont even appear in Titanium, and none of the files show .apk on them. Is there another method being used to see these files?
What is the advantage to freezing them vs. disabling them in the regular system manager?
Parafly said:
What is the advantage to freezing them vs. disabling them in the regular system manager?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some applications can't be disabled in the system. So you have to freeze them instead. Freezing allows you to unfreeze them if Verizon releases a software update. If you delete them however you will never get a software update.
DarkMenace said:
Some applications can't be disabled in the system. So you have to freeze them instead. Freezing allows you to unfreeze them if Verizon releases a software update. If you delete them however you will never get a software update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only reason for a sotware uodate is if you plan on staying stock. Mind you verizon will more than likely patch root access and the loki method of bypassing the bootloader in future updates. In my experience rom devs usually stay on top of adding all must have features that would be included in ota updates without loosing root and recovery.
bhp090808 said:
The only reason for a sotware uodate is if you plan on staying stock. Mind you verizon will more than likely patch root access and the loki method of bypassing the bootloader in future updates. In my experience rom devs usually stay on top of adding all must have features that would be included in ota updates without loosing root and recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True but someone will always find a new method. Voodo OTA rootkeeper might even work to restore it.
Sent from my Rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 using xda premium
Currently S4 is rooted with TWRP custom recovery. Don't want to lose root access and I read that if you have a custom recovery the OTA update will fail. The update downloaded but not installed yet. I don't want the notification to keep prompting me to install. If I try to install the update, will it fail and not prompt me any notification?
It would probably fail to install because of twrp recovery. Freeze sdm 1.0 to stop the notification from popping up.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
As stated, Use Titanium to freeze SDM 1.0 and that should removed the annoying pop up that asks you to install the update. Worked for me.
So I was forced to "schedule" the update for 6AM on my rooted/CWM recovery S4. There was no way to continue or go back. I just froze sdm 1.0. Will this block the update ? Can anyone confirm it will fail due to the custom recovery ? Haven't installed a custom ROM (probably CM 10.1) yet as I'm waiting for it to settle a little more.
balaams_ass said:
So I was forced to "schedule" the update for 6AM on my rooted/CWM recovery S4. There was no way to continue or go back. I just froze sdm 1.0. Will this block the update ? Can anyone confirm it will fail due to the custom recovery ? Haven't installed a custom ROM (probably CM 10.1) yet as I'm waiting for it to settle a little more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will block the ota. I had your exact situation. If you want to make sure for peace of mind, back up a couple system apps then uninstall them or freezem. Or you could just manually delete the ota files. But make sure to freeze sdm as was stated above.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Surge1223 said:
It will block the ota. I had your exact situation. If you want to make sure for peace of mind, back up a couple system apps then uninstall them or freezem. Or you could just manually delete the ota files. But make sure to freeze sdm as was stated above.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I freezed SDM and how would you manually delete the OTA files? I know verizon downloaded the file since it keeps on prompting me to install it
They are usually in /data/fota/ , but I haven't tried extracting them on a Galaxy phone before so I'm not sure if you will need to use adb to extract the files. You dont need to do this, I was just saying its an option.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Surge1223 said:
They are usually in /data/fota/ , but I haven't tried extracting them on a Galaxy phone before so I'm not sure if you will need to use adb to extract the files. You dont need to do this, I was just saying its an option.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks.. I ended up just deleting the update since its 327MB of unwanted space and Froze SDM + FWupdater.
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
Sent from my hacked & wacked S4
scottgalit61 said:
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
Sent from my hacked & wacked S4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
/system/app/SDM.apk. if you dont have it try to find com.samsung.sdm in /data/data/
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
scottgalit61 said:
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
Sent from my hacked & wacked S4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go into Titanium Backup under Backup/Restore and freeze it there. Also freeze FWUpdate for good measure.
I rooted using the method that only gives root access, if and when Verizon pushes a new OTA, will that cause any problems? Of course I would first unroot via that function in SuperSU, just want to know if I would need to do anything else before taking the update our if I would run into any problems? Thinking about it now I would defrost the few apps I've frozen, but there isn't to much else I've done as far as tweaks go other then install adaway.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
coreysr said:
I rooted using the method that only gives root access, if and when Verizon pushes a new OTA, will that cause any problems? Of course I would first unroot via that function in SuperSU, just want to know if I would need to do anything else before taking the update our if I would run into any problems? Thinking about it now I would defrost the few apps I've frozen, but there isn't to much else I've done as far as tweaks go other then install adaway.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would def defrost apps, and be prepared to not be able to root again, as im sure all current methods will be fixed when it updates again. With how popular the phone is im sure root would be found, but it will take time.
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Yes, once you root the phone you can download Titanium backup (full version) and freeze SDM
As I believe that the SDM is the file that manages the communication for updates
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that depends. Progress is definitely being made towards another bootloader unlock. However, the 4.4 update would possibly introduce even more security that the devs haven't seen before.
But using titanium or just renaming sdm.apk to sdm.bak with a file explorer (must be rooted) will stop the updates.
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
Terri M said:
Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
newshook said:
I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your BEST bet is to use TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all the files you want to "get rid of". Once you make those backups, you can have TitaniumBackup uninstall those apps. Now if something happens you can easily reinstall those apps through TitaniumBackup. You can also have TitaniumBackup backup location to be your extSdCard and not on your phone, this way your backups aren't eating up space on the sdcard (internal sdcard)
I have frozen ( thru TitaniumBackup) all the apps you are talking about and I'm not having any problems.
Hope this helps!
Mistertac said:
Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
rest assured, that every subsequent firmware release by samsung/verizon will lock down whatever exploits we are using even more.
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
bgmg said:
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
k1mu said:
Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
bgmg said:
I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
k1mu said:
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ran a search across my whole device for OTApkg.zip. No file found.
Please allow me to restate a few things:
1) I have no subfolder under "/cache". I do not have a "fumo" or "fota". I have nothing in my "/cache" folder.
2) On my Sprint SPH-L720T Tri Band phone, I do not have a "SDM" app process. When I type "SDM" in my titanium backup, it brings up a app process called "System Update 1.8.8". I don't know if I should have froze this, but I did.
3) I ran a search across my whole device for *.zip to return all .zip files. I did find a "/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip". Not sure if I should do anything with that.
k1mu said:
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also, I am rooted. I used your saferoot two months ago. I just went into my file manager app and found a root option. I turned it on and the file manager app requested super user privilege which I granted. Now I can see sub folders under cache, but none of them match your description.
I do see a obvious file called " 0de568e284baa2bbcb25305b099be7cc415386de.USER_L720T_SPT_MK5_to_NAF_Update_FWD.zip". See enclosed pic.
I moved it to my sd card. Do you think I'm OK to press the update option now to make it go away?
Sent from my SPH-L720T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Just freeze sdm in titanium
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Maduro78 said:
Just freeze sdm in titanium
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
Sent from my SPH-L720T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
bgmg said:
There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
Sent from my SPH-L720T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a misplaced thread.
bgmg doesn't have a Verizon phone, it's a Sprint phone. That's why suggestions to freeze SDM/FWUpdate don't work.
Hi,
I am currently rooted and froze all verizon updates so it didn't break root a while back. However, I haven't updated my and currently on andriod version 4.2.2.
I would like to finally update my phone to 4.4.2 but not sure how to go about it. If I take the verizon update, will I lose root still? Or what is the best method to update?
Thanks in advance
Best method is a matter of taste... And also depends on your base. mdk? Me7? Mdk sell phone buy a new one ..
I prefer using the no wipe tar files to update with. Benefit is that you keep your data, and in one shot you go straight to the most current update. Downside is you must download some software and use a PC. Others prefer to take each OTA one at a time. It's slow but "official" so if your on MDK you would download and update about 5 times.
Yes you will loose root,.. But towelroot works for NC5
Sent from my SM-T330NU using XDA Free mobile app
Batttie said:
Best method is a matter of taste... And also depends on your base. mdk? Me7? Mdk sell phone buy a new one ..
I prefer using the no wipe tar files to update with. Benefit is that you keep your data, and in one shot you go straight to the most current update. Downside is you must download some software and use a PC. Others prefer to take each OTA one at a time. It's slow but "official" so if your on MDK you would download and update about 5 times.
Yes you will loose root,.. But towelroot works for NC5
Sent from my SM-T330NU using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the quick reply Batttie... What data will I lose? and is there anyway to keep my set-up? I have titanium backup as well as safestrap.
If you're on Verizon and MDK baseband, maybe you should flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721118
Looks a lot easier to me - what does everyone else think? Personally I wouldn't give up my MDK baseband for anything!
usualsuspec said:
Hi,
I am currently rooted and froze all verizon updates so it didn't break root a while back. However, I haven't updated my and currently on andriod version 4.2.2.
I would like to finally update my phone to 4.4.2 but not sure how to go about it. If I take the verizon update, will I lose root still? Or what is the best method to update?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you're on MDK you NEED TO KEEP IT. I can't stress enough how important that bootloader is. NEVER TAKE AN OTA ON MDK.
If you're on ME7 or newer then yeah you could OTA. you'll lose root but your data will be salvaged. i think you have to go to 4.3 before 4.4 so that's a thing
skepticmisfit said:
if you're on MDK you NEED TO KEEP IT. I can't stress enough how important that bootloader is. NEVER TAKE AN OTA ON MDK.
If you're on ME7 or newer then yeah you could OTA. you'll lose root but your data will be salvaged. i think you have to go to 4.3 before 4.4 so that's a thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right now I am 4.2.2 ME7 so what you are saying is that I can take the OTA, lose root but not lose data? And easily re-root using towelroot?
usualsuspec said:
Right now I am 4.2.2 ME7 so what you are saying is that I can take the OTA, lose root but not lose data? And easily re-root using towelroot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup
skepticmisfit said:
yup
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hope someone can answer this as well, I believe I froze the OTA updates through tibu but I cannot figure out what I did. Does anyone know what file would have been frozen to stop receiving updates?
usualsuspec said:
Hope someone can answer this as well, I believe I froze the OTA updates through tibu but I cannot figure out what I did. Does anyone know what file would have been frozen to stop receiving updates?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look to see if these two files are frozen/disabled: FWUpgrade.apk and SDM.apk
This one could be frozen as well: fota.client.apk
Joe_6pak said:
Look to see if these two files are frozen/disabled: FWUpgrade.apk and SDM.apk
This one could be frozen as well: fota.client.apk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like seeing people that ask a lot of qurations come back and help other people out. It's far too rare in the xda community these days. :thumbsup:
First I wanted to thank everyone for their responses, I was able to unfreeze the OTA. However, I am now currently on MI1 and every time I try and update via OTA , I get a "failed" message with the Android guy on his back.
Any idea how I can get this update?
Same thing hapenned to me. I fixed this by unrooting and factory reseting my s4 and it updated without any problems
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
UnlinkedEnergy said:
Same thing hapenned to me. I fixed this by unrooting and factory reseting my s4 and it updated without any problems
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you lose everything when doing a factory reset?
Yup, factory resetting deletes user data and the internal memory. If you have an sd card then you can transfer your files onto there so it is not lost in the process
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Free mobile app
usualsuspec said:
First I wanted to thank everyone for their responses, I was able to unfreeze the OTA. However, I am now currently on MI1 and every time I try and update via OTA , I get a "failed" message with the Android guy on his back.
Any idea how I can get this update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same issue many of us have had with ota.
Some where along the line, and a system app has changed. If all the system apps aren't perfect, it will fail during ota.
Since you don't really know which app is causing it, the only way to update via ota is by doing a factory reset.
This will restore all the system apps back to normal, and then you can ota. It will wipe everything.
Use Tibu to save your apps and data, change the back up location to the extsdcard. Backup your texts and call logs using Smsbackup from the play store. And move anything on the emulated sdcard0 slot of the phone back to the extsdcard.
If your using a custom launcher like Nova, you can save your home screens to the sdcard as well and fully restore after you reroot.
If you don't have a custom launcher, and just take screen shots of your home screens, you can use those to remind you of your layouts.
Its not as complicated as it seems, and shouldn't take very long over decent wifi.
But a factory reset (through the phone, and not a custom recovery) will wipe the internal storage, so make sure everything is on the external sdcard.
May I ask which "Smsbackup" you recommend?
ymDroid said:
Same issue many of us have had with ota.
Some where along the line, and a system app has changed. If all the system apps aren't perfect, it will fail during ota.
Since you don't really know which app is causing it, the only way to update via ota is by doing a factory reset.
This will restore all the system apps back to normal, and then you can ota. It will wipe everything.
Use Tibu to save your apps and data, change the back up location to the extsdcard. Backup your texts and call logs using Smsbackup from the play store. And move anything on the emulated sdcard0 slot of the phone back to the extsdcard.
If your using a custom launcher like Nova, you can save your home screens to the sdcard as well and fully restore after you reroot.
If you don't have a custom launcher, and just take screen shots of your home screens, you can use those to remind you of your layouts.
Its not as complicated as it seems, and shouldn't take very long over decent wifi.
But a factory reset (through the phone, and not a custom recovery) will wipe the internal storage, so make sure everything is on the external sdcard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi & Thanks for the quick step-by-step,
May I ask which specific "Smsbackup" app from the play store you recommend? (a link? Or name the developer or whatever?) I want to jump up from 4.2.2 rooted as well and I already have Titanium Backup PRO, but when I searched the Play Store for "Smsbackup" I got a load of results
(Actually, unless I'm incredibly dense and have missed a memo, I practically ALWAYS have trouble selecting apps from Google Play. I find the search results to be rubbish and even knowing the app name unhelpful because of the copy-cat namers who seem to flood the store with wannabe crap that just sounds like what you're looking for. Hope I'm wrong about this and there's actually a correct way to find what you want there. Would hate to think Google is suddenly incapable of conducting simple search functions well. *lol*)
Anyway, thanks in advance if you can help me backup my txts and call logs. That really would be a great assist. BTW, do you know, will the resulting backups contain attached pictures, and etc., for the txt threads?
Best regards,
Joe C.
TiBu can backup and restore all your SMS and MMS messages complete with the pictures as well as your call log.