[Q] Stock, rooted 4.X ROM? - Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Are there any pre-rooted stock ROMs based on Fire OS 4.X that I can flash without losing my unlocked bootloader? I'm currently on version 3.1.0.

bmccoy11 said:
Are there any pre-rooted stock ROMs based on Fire OS 4.X that I can flash without losing my unlocked bootloader? I'm currently on version 3.1.0.
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Nexus v4, CM11 and CM12 are your choices. If you want FireOS v4 you need to use a special tool/procedrue to remove all components except the base OS (what gets written to the system partition) from the stock .bin. There's a thread somewhere in the HDX forums; I'd have to hunt it down if interested (beware: not noob friendly).
Are you asking because you want to retain some of the unique functionality in FireOS? If so there are workarounds to all but a handful of features. Just need to identify what you are looking for.

Davey126 said:
Nexus v4, CM11 and CM12 are your choices. If you want FireOS v4 you need to use a special tool/procedrue to remove all components except the base OS (what gets written to the system partition) from the stock .bin. There's a thread somewhere in the HDX forums; I'd have to hunt it down if interested (beware: not noob friendly).
Are you asking because you want to retain some of the unique functionality in FireOS? If so there are workarounds to all but a handful of features. Just need to identify what you are looking for.
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I would love if the Fire OS 4 launcher could be ported to another ROM, but I can't see that being possible without some huge modifications.
Also, I found a TWRP flashable stock 4.5.2 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57993109&postcount=20

bmccoy11 said:
I would love if the Fire OS 4 launcher could be ported to another ROM, but I can't see that being possible without some huge modifications.
Also, I found a TWRP flashable stock 4.5.2 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57993109&postcount=20
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Yep - there is a handful of users who prefer Amazon's launcher which has some nice features. That said it seems unlikely someone would take on the port given the work involved and relatively low interest. Glad you found a version of 4.5.2 that can be safely flashed. Enjoy!

Davey126 said:
There's a thread somewhere in the HDX forums; I'd have to hunt it down if interested (beware: not noob friendly).
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Could you link to the thread you're speaking of, please? I'm definitely interested in updating to Fire OS 4.5.5.

bmccoy11 said:
Could you link to the thread you're speaking of, please? I'm definitely interested in updating to Fire OS 4.5.5.
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Believe this is the one. You might want to start reading from the end as there are some recent notations about 4.5.4 and 4.5.5. Material is not for the faint of heart but not overwhelming difficult once you get past the terminology. I have not messed with the tools; you will need to reach out to @draxie with questions/comments. Don't for forget to give draxie a 'thanks' if his tools help you.

Davey126 said:
Believe this is the one. You might want to start reading from the end as there are some recent notations about 4.5.4 and 4.5.5. Material is not for the faint of heart but not overwhelming difficult once you get past the terminology. I have not messed with the tools; you will need to reach out to @draxie with questions/comments. Don't for forget to give draxie a 'thanks' if his tools help you.
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Perfect, thanks for finding that!

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[Q] Can I install any ROM on the HDX7?

I have a hdx7. I'm pretty new to the modding scene, more playing around with what others have already tried.
I already have safestrap, but I was wondering whether you could install any ROM, stock KitKat or Cyanogenmod for instance, or whether they have to be tailored to the device itself? I assume the latter but thought I would ask.
Cheers
OurFriendIrony said:
I have a hdx7. I'm pretty new to the modding scene, more playing around with what others have already tried.
I already have safestrap, but I was wondering whether you could install any ROM, stock KitKat or Cyanogenmod for instance, or whether they have to be tailored to the device itself? I assume the latter but thought I would ask.
Cheers
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Yes. It must be designed for the kindle. Simple as that
spaghettiknight said:
Yes. It must be designed for the kindle. Simple as that
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Do you know if there are any ROMs out there. So far I just have the one modified stock ROM
There is a second one on the Android development forum that appears to have promise. It's an actual Tablet ROM. The guy working on it is a godsend. Only a few problems with it left, after that we'll have a super-awesome kindle.
Cool, I'll check that out. Do you have a link to the forum post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607185

[Q] Questions about Root, Safestrap & Gapps for the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9"

Hey,
I am about to get a new Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 64gb tomorrow and I'm already checking how to root the tablet and get all the Gapps up and running.
Unfortunately there are still a few things which are a little bit confusing for me at the moment:
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
I'm pretty sure I will come up with more questions tomorrow, but that's for now!
Thanks for your help ...
f2 said:
Hey,
I am about to get a new Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 64gb tomorrow and I'm already checking how to root the tablet and get all the Gapps up and running.
Unfortunately there are still a few things which are a little bit confusing for me at the moment:
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
I'm pretty sure I will come up with more questions tomorrow, but that's for now!
Thanks for your help ...
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Welcome. Chances r u will receive the,or close to, the latest ota. That being said there currently is no root.. An earlier version of fire was rootable but quickly fixed by Amazon. We r all in same boat. For now spend the next couple days getting caught up on this forum while playing withbur new toy.
f2 said:
Hey,
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
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Once you complete the process to make dual-system (both Gapps and Amazon) the HDXposed module will block updates.
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2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
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Personally, 6GB or 8GB. I currently use 4GB and it got a LITTLE crampy when I downloaded a couple videos from Coursera.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
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OTA will affect the whole system. Don't do it.
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
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Same place. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
kschang said:
Same place. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
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Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?
Thanks again for your help ...
f2 said:
Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?
Thanks again for your help ...
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It seems to be known the Xposed mod doesn't block updates. If you want the tab for the specs but also as close as possible to a stock android experience. I would recommend how I did it with SS on both stock and rom slot, airplane moding the stock slot and never going back there unless necessary. Also try to rename the files and if possible try to mod the build if you think fit.
Just my 0.02.
f2 said:
Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?.
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I was pointing you to dual-use setup. If you don't want Amazon, it'd be this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585690
Thanks for all the help! After some back and forth I now have the most things working and it's a great device, but I still have one questions. Does Google+ work for anyone of you? As soon as I open the Google+ app it crashes immediately and goes back to the launcher. Did anyone have similar experience and knows how to fix that?
Thanks!
f2 said:
Thanks for all the help! After some back and forth I now have the most things working and it's a great device, but I still have one questions. Does Google+ work for anyone of you? As soon as I open the Google+ app it crashes immediately and goes back to the launcher. Did anyone have similar experience and knows how to fix that?
Thanks!
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What ROM are you running?
icedtrip said:
What ROM are you running?
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Amazon Stock rom 14.3.1.0
Sometimes it does that. Clear cache, restart device, try again.
kschang said:
Sometimes it does that. Clear cache, restart device, try again.
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So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
f2 said:
So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
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I can tell you that 4.3.1.63038142 works fine for me, on current HDX 7, older ROM, HDXposed and gapps and all the rest.
f2 said:
So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
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Same as kschang with same version of Google+ (latest version). HDX 7 with 13.3.1.0 firmware. It's run fine with Cpasjuste's ROMs (both the Thor Gapps and the AOSP ROMs) as well as stock ROM with Cpastjuste's Gapps zip installer.
Hi
I've also got HDX 8.9 14.3.1.0 Apollo. How did you get supersu installed?
I've got the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip
The author recommends installing through Google Play.
But if I turn off airplane mode I'll get updated, so I can't do that.
Other option is to install supersu through CWM, TWRP or MobilOdin.
But they also require Google Play to install.
I'm on linux. What should I do?
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aero1379 said:
Hi
I've also got HDX 8.9 14.3.1.0 Apollo. How did you get supersu installed?
I've got the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip
The author recommends installing through Google Play.
But if I turn off airplane mode I'll get updated, so I can't do that.
Other option is to install supersu through CWM, TWRP or MobilOdin.
But they also require Google Play to install.
I'm on linux. What should I do?
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Development sec..use plainly marked utility for everything
I mean Christ the best I can find is this: http://blog.julianxhokaxhiu.com/entry/how-to-install-supersu-on-hamlet-zelig-pad-210g
But he's got a custom install script. There's no install.sh file in the zip I got.
Some old threads look promising (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223) but will BurritoRoot or whatever worked on Kindle Fire 2 years ago work for Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 Apollo???
If you got all this working, it would be great if you could just unpack all the instructions you went through. No links and trying to be timeless lillypads for the future, just a detailed case study.
really...
aero1379 said:
I mean Christ the best I can find is this: http://blog.julianxhokaxhiu.com/entry/how-to-install-supersu-on-hamlet-zelig-pad-210g
But he's got a custom install script. There's no install.sh file in the zip I got.
Some old threads look promising (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223) but will BurritoRoot or whatever worked on Kindle Fire 2 years ago work for Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 Apollo???
If you got all this working, it would be great if you could just unpack all the instructions you went through. No links and trying to be timeless lillypads for the future, just a detailed case study.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
jimyv said:
Development sec..use plainly marked utility for everything
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I don't understand this at all. You were typing a sentence there, and then you started typing another one?
: )
aero1379 said:
I don't understand this at all. You were typing a sentence there, and then you started typing another
I was trying to point you to the development section. sec.... Being an abbreviation of section and etc.... Fourth topic down is a toolkit contains everything that you have just asked for. Hope http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683 makes easier fot you. Thanksyou for visiting us here at xda have a GREAT day. ; )
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There's only a Windows solution, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
I got VBox to see the Kindle and just used the KFHDX ToolKit v0.91 toolkit.

Fire OS V 13.3.2.0?

Hello everyone.
I just received my Kindle Fire HDX with Fire OS 13.3.2.0. I am not receiving any updates, and Amazon says I have to manually install Fire OS 13.3.2.5. However, I want to go directly to Fire OS 13.3.2.4 in order to root and install certain ROMs. Is it possible for me to jump from Fire OS 13.3.2.0 to Fire OS 13.3.2.4?
Thanks,
Drive
If you want ROMs, I would stay right where you're at. If you upgrade, you will lose the ability to use the upcoming bootloader signature verification bypass exploit (that's a mouthful, but if basically means that if you upgrade, then you won't be able to install custom ROMs).
r3pwn said:
If you want ROMs, I would stay right where you're at. If you upgrade, you will lose the ability to use the upcoming bootloader signature verification bypass exploit (that's a mouthful, but if basically means that if you upgrade, then you won't be able to install custom ROMs).
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Woah, can you tell me a bit more about this exploit?
SynchroDrive said:
Woah, can you tell me a bit more about this exploit?
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It's patched somewhere between X.3.1.0 and X.3.2.4. Not quite sure where. The dev said he thinks he can release it by the new year.
SynchroDrive said:
Woah, can you tell me a bit more about this exploit?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57767482&postcount=27
EncryptedCurse said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57767482&postcount=27
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Interesting...
thanks for letting me know
but
SynchroDrive said:
Interesting...
thanks for letting me know
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if you do decide to manually update do each step date consecutively do not skip you will miss something along the way that is important and your device will not work right

Xposed framework

I'm coming from a nexus 5 (sad story, power button is broken).
I've loved not having any bloatware from day one.
On the other hand, LOVING the feel of this HTC so far.
I'm not finding a great deal of search results about the xposed framework on these phones. I see there is some hesitation with some htc one phones (couldn't determine which ones from what i read), So i thought i'd ask if anyone has any reason why it wouldn't run on a newly wiped stock OTA 5.0.2 install that i just rooted.
Thanks in advance and happy to join the community here.
Haven't had any issues (I'm new to the phone myself, love it, had it for 2 weeks so far), but I S-OFF and converted mine to GPE. Make sure you're using the official alpha xposed for 5.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811. There is also a different unofficial one for 5.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979 if you decide to upgrade. I'm running a bunch of modules and they work as far as I know.
008freak said:
Haven't had any issues (I'm new to the phone myself, love it, had it for 2 weeks so far), but I S-OFF and converted mine to GPE. Make sure you're using the official alpha xposed for 5.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811. There is also a different unofficial one for 5.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979 if you decide to upgrade. I'm running a bunch of modules and they work as far as I know.
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As mentioned, Xposed should work. It was broken for a while, meaning it didn't work on Lollipop, so many folks had to stop using it for a while for that reason (or use KK ROMs until Xposed was updated). And I think there was a point where Xposed framework itself was updated for LP, but many modules were not (and therefore did not work with LP). But I think a lot of that has ironed itself out, by now. You might run into a few modules here or there that don't work on LP; but most things should work fine.
008freak said:
Haven't had any issues (I'm new to the phone myself, love it, had it for 2 weeks so far), but I S-OFF and converted mine to GPE. Make sure you're using the official alpha xposed for 5.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811. There is also a different unofficial one for 5.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979 if you decide to upgrade. I'm running a bunch of modules and they work as far as I know.
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GPE is such a great suggestion, I hadn't considered that as an option. this(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306) seems to the the most supported I can find, you mind me asking what version you are using as GPE.
redpoint73 - My mileage varied from module to module also when it first got alpha support for 5.1, but everything I was looking for customization wise was met eventually. My quirky preferences aren't as numerous as they used to be.
I would love to learn more about fastboot flashing from the terminal, I know enough to be dangerous at this point. Do you all have any good pointers or tutorials you could direct me to?
Thanks for the prompt replies everyone! Now I have yet another reason to procrastinate the research paper I'm supposed to be writing today .
wakeboardsam said:
GPE is such a great suggestion, I hadn't considered that as an option. this(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306) seems to the the most supported I can find, you mind me asking what version you are using as GPE.
I would love to learn more about fastboot flashing from the terminal, I know enough to be dangerous at this point. Do you all have any good pointers or tutorials you could direct me to?
Thanks for the prompt replies everyone! Now I have yet another reason to procrastinate the research paper I'm supposed to be writing today .
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Disclaimer (I can't remember the exact steps I took, so in addition to me being vague, obligatory: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR DEVICE!)
I'm on the latest GPE 5.1 LMY470.H6. I didn't flash a rom maintained by a user, I did the conversion through changing MID, CID, flash RUU, so I could get official OTA updates.
I followed a combination of the following guides. READ BOTH CAREFULLY FIRST as this is probably a bit more involved than just flashing a ROM in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708651 Has a guide for loading the official GPE RUU. The guy's website has 4.4.2 to latest 5.1 GPE
I installed 4.4.2 un-rooted, then updated through OTA to 5.1, flashed TWRP, installed SuperSU, rooted, installed xposed, DONE!
Then go to town on xposed. I would just say read carefully. I spent a good half a day converting mine xD
If you don't feel comfortable doing this, going with a dev/team maintained GPE ROM is probably fine and might even be better maintained.
wakeboardsam said:
I would love to learn more about fastboot flashing from the terminal, I know enough to be dangerous at this point. Do you all have any good pointers or tutorials you could direct me to?
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There are good fastboot guides on XDA like the following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277112
Honestly, I can't say I know much more, aside from the few commands I've had the occasion to use: wipe cache, flash kernels, flash zips, flash recovery, etc. For the most part, when I need a certain command, I just look it up.

replaced 3rd generation kdx7 with 4.5.3

Hey guys, just wanted to ask what would be the best route to unlock the bootloader if possible on my replacement hdx7 3rd gen? It has 4.5.3
I want it rooted and romed
You can't. Unlocking the bootloader is only possible on versions 3.2.3.2 and below.
yeah I thought so thanks for the reply!
bowman1966 said:
yeah I thought so thanks for the reply!
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I can't easily access your previous posts (XDA search engine is down) so I'll mention you can rollback to 4.5.2 and install Safestrap v4 which supports Nexus v4 and CM11 (not CM12). Overall experience mirrors that obtained with unlocked bootloader with those two roms and certainly better than the FrankenKindle created by layering gapps onto FireOS. Apologies if you knew this already...just covering bases.
Davey126 said:
I can't easily access your previous posts (XDA search engine is down) so I'll mention you can rollback to 4.5.2 and install Safestrap v4 which supports Nexus v4 and CM11 (not CM12). Overall experience mirrors that obtained with unlocked bootloader with those two roms and certainly better than the FrankenKindle created by layering gapps onto FireOS. Apologies if you knew this already...just covering bases.
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Thanks:good:

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