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Rooted my Viewpad 7
I created with the adb shell backups, no problem there.
I now have 12 img files saved on my SD card.
boot.img, recovery.img sytem.img and more.
But before I go wild on installing other roms I like to know how to restore those *.img files.
I don't want to install cwrecovery before I know how to fix things in case something goes wrong.
TIA
Install rom just like u install window. If your hardware's not has a problem. U can re-install it anytime you want. Just u backup and synchronize your bookmark and private data. It's not difficult like the other said in board. I'm install new rom everyday for fine the best's rom for myself. JUST DO IT. cwrecovery is the best.
indyend said:
Install rom just like u install window. If your hardware's not has a problem. U can re-install it anytime you want. Just u backup and synchronize your bookmark and private data. It's not difficult like the other said in board. I'm install new rom everyday for fine the best's rom for myself. JUST DO IT. cwrecovery is the best.
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On all the threads here I read that I need (before I do anything else) make a backup of my stock rom with adb, but I can't find how to restore those, nobody seems to know
I don't want to overwrite (flash) my current stock restore partition with cwrecovery before I know how restore to the original rom manually.
CastleGuy said:
On all the threads here I read that I need (before I do anything else) make a backup of my stock rom with adb, but I can't find how to restore those, nobody seems to know
I don't want to overwrite (flash) my current stock restore partition with cwrecovery before I know how restore to the original rom manually.
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What's your HWver and SWver (along with Build/OS info) for this rooted VPAD7? Check it via FTM mode & let us know - and does it use the latest/new ITE hardware?
If yours doesn't have ITE and has an earlier built, Viewsonic's website has both the firmwares (*.zip files) and utilities (SUTL3 xxx) to reflash & fully restore it to stock, rooted conditions in case one of the custom ROM resulted in a "soft" brick. CWR does NOT work with *.img files in restoring and it's a problem especially with newer build/ITE hardware & I have yet to find a stock zip file for mine, but I did saved a rooted version with CWR based on the stock build that I've restored successfully with CWR. One of our fellow XDA geeks here is working on the 2 *.img files and should be posting a beta one soon.
The stock ROM based on Froyo 2.2.2 is very good - rooted so I can use Astro, ES File Manager & Titanium Backup, etc., IMO and the Froyo Enhanced (non-OC) works nicely (OS 2.2.1) on mine too - both could benefit from more tweaking especially with the status bar/interface & launcher, etc. But, neither of them are loaded with bloatware or junks - so you might just want to stick with the stock ones as this is still a relatively "small" circle of users "pushing" the boundaries.
Good luck & have a nice day - hope this helped !
Link to VS's website:
http://vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7/
Letitride said:
What's your HWver and SWver (along with Build/OS info) for this rooted VPAD7? Check it via FTM mode & let us know - and does it use the latest/new ITE hardware?
If yours doesn't have ITE and has an earlier built, Viewsonic's website has both the firmwares (*.zip files) and utilities (SUTL3 xxx) to reflash & fully restore it to stock, rooted conditions in case one of the custom ROM resulted in a "soft" brick. CWR does NOT work with *.img files in restoring and it's a problem especially with newer build/ITE hardware & I have yet to find a stock zip file for mine, but I did saved a rooted version with CWR based on the stock build that I've restored successfully with CWR. One of our fellow XDA geeks here is working on the 2 *.img files and should be posting a beta one soon.
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Thanks
SWVer:3.16K
Model:FMR-0001
HWVer:103
OS is version 2.2 that's not an ITE, am I correct?
Below are the files on the Viewpad site, whitch are the ones I need?
FM6-316Q-0-1008-A01.nb0
FM6-3310-0-5029-A02.nb0
SUTL3_v1.6.5.zip
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip
SW_3.310_P1_20110201_VSI.zip
BTW The language on my current rom is in Dutch, do you know if the rom at Viewpad also has Dutch, it seems that the most selectable languages I see on my Viewpad are from Europe.
The stock ROM based on Froyo 2.2.2 is very good - rooted so I can use Astro, ES File Manager & Titanium Backup, etc., IMO and the Froyo Enhanced (non-OC) works nicely (OS 2.2.1) on mine too - both could benefit from more tweaking especially with the status bar/interface & launcher, etc. But, neither of them are loaded with bloatware or junks - so you might just want to stick with the stock ones as this is still a relatively "small" circle of users "pushing" the boundaries.
Good luck & have a nice day - hope this helped !
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My stock rom seems to be very good also, for now I'll stick to that one but will play a bit with it to see what can be done to remove some software and make more room via an ext3 partition.
Still not sure what to do with the image files I created, it seems they are quite useless.
Thanks again
CastleGuy said:
Thanks
SWVer:3.16K
Model:FMR-0001
HWVer:103
OS is version 2.2 that's not an ITE, am I correct?
Below are the files on the Viewpad site, whitch are the ones I need?
FM6-316Q-0-1008-A01.nb0
FM6-3310-0-5029-A02.nb0
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip
BTW The language on my current rom is in Dutch, do you know if the rom at Viewpad also has Dutch, it seems that the most selectable languages I see on my Viewpad are from Europe.
Still not sure what to do with the image files I created, it seems they are quite useless.
Thanks again
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Based on what I read & seen, your VPAD is one of the earlier/est one so it's unlikely to come with ITE hardware, so nearly all of the custom ROM here should easily install without any problems at all using CWR.
Mine is 3.41 - FM6-0001 - 107 and OS 2.2.2 with ITE, and under "About phone" in Settings - Baseband PR3.7_125, Kernel 2.6.32.9 and Build 1008_3.350
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip is the newer of 2 installer to flash the ROM - probably FM6-316Q*.nb0 being the closest one to yours (FM6-3310*.nb0 should be a newer one) Not sure what that SW*VSI.zip file is for but I got an error when trying to open/unzip it - bad d/l or corrupted ?? Both 316R & 3310 flashed successfully to my VPAD7 but since I got ITE, I cannot use it since the touchscreen with Android is frozen - yours should work with it as long as hardware isn't ITE.
I do not have enough info to help with the Dutch language question as my current Froyo Enhanced ROM only showed English, French & Spanish as choices - perhaps someone else running stock/OEM rom can help check theirs for you.
As for the stock ROM itself, I used TB to identify & freeze/uninstall some of them safely as I never used them - but to truely free up internal storage/memory, d/l and use App2SD to Ext3 partition - it DOES make a great deal of difference. If you have a spare mSD card (4 GB size will do nicely for experimental purposes, done it with 2 GB myself) - using CWR to reformat & create 3rd ext partition, moved the saved files/zips/apks back to it - reboot once the initial setup/installations are finalized & stablized - and enjoy ! With over 35 apps moved, I still get about 60MB free up ....
Agreed about those saved *.img files - except for those with the "kitchen" tools to take it apart & rebuild ....
I'm going to use TB to uninstall some apps, I think I'm going to find a faster SD card to try an Ext3 partition, probably that will help to keep the VP7 running as fast and smooth as it does now, great device
Thanks again for you help
I have been reading all the info on rooting,flashing,backup, and recovery.
Please tell me if I understand this correctly:
My viewpad details are as follows:
Android 2.2.1
Basebandversion PR3.7_125
Kernel version Apps_2.6.32.9
Build 1008_3_240
Manufactured 12/02/2011
Swver 3.240
Model FM6-001
Hwver 107
I am correct in assuming this is an ite version and if I root there currently is no stock unrooted rom available to unroot if I need to?
droid5800 said:
My viewpad details are as follows:
Android 2.2.1
Basebandversion PR3.7_125
Kernel version Apps_2.6.32.9
Build 1008_3_240
Manufactured 12/02/2011
Swver 3.240
Model FM6-001
Hwver 107
I am correct in assuming this is an ite version and if I root there currently is no stock unrooted rom available to unroot if I need to?
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Most likely, yours is ITE hardware. BTW, what country/region are you in - the Americas, Asia or Europe b/c stock ROMS available for one region or zone might/should work in another, depending on locales & language requirements .... WiFi issues experienced by some users could, I feel / suspect, be related partially to radio bands intended for region/zone x being flashed and used in region/zone y.
I believe that at least one of the recent stock/factory ROMs cited in the development subforum is for ITE/new pads.
Welcome abroad & cheers
Letitride said:
Most likely, yours is ITE hardware. BTW, what country/region are you in - the Americas, Asia or Europe b/c stock ROMS available for one region or zone might/should work in another, depending on locales & language requirements .... WiFi issues experienced by some users could, I feel / suspect, be related partially to radio bands intended for region/zone x being flashed and used in region/zone y.
I believe that at least one of the recent stock/factory ROMs cited in the development subforum is for ITE/new pads.
Welcome abroad & cheers
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Thanks nice to be here.
I am from the Caribbean so I guess that would be the Americas.
My only complaint with this device is the available space so wanted to root to install something like link2sd. Might not even need a custom ROM if that works out.
In my parts these devices aren't cheap/reasonable so just want to make sure there is a fall back stock ROM in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Most of the current ROMs seem to be for non ITE devices. Any hopes that there will be more ITE custom ROMs anytime soon an o/c one for a little speed boost would be nice.
Regards
droid5800 said:
from the Caribbean so I guess that would be the Americas .... complaint with this device is the available space so wanted to root to install something like link2sd. Might not even need a custom ROM if that works out .... in my parts these devices aren't cheap/reasonable so just want to make sure there is a fall back stock ROM in case I need to return for warranty repairs .... current ROMs seem to be for non ITE devices .... an o/c one for a little speed boost would be nice. Regards
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The stock ROM isn't loaded with bloatware & with 3G unlocked, the device is fine for non-power, speed freaks chasing the latest dual core CPU, LOL - but, it's easy to fill up internal space & memory. Without rooting, it's difficult to load & experiment with A2SD, do Titanium Backup & use ES File Manager or Astro - but even stock ROM has full access to Google Market, so it's pretty cool.
Agreed on high prices down in the islands & even worst in the Bermudas and with little to no competition, unless one can bring them back from mainland USA and not have to pay import duties.
I've tested just about every available custom ROM floating around - Amalgation's EU v1.7 ITE ROM is what I use, it's responsive & adapted for ITE, 3G worked on AT&T and T-Mobile's GSM network + WiFi, and managed to install DT's A2SD on it, so it freed up lots of space & memory - using a 16GB mSD card.
As for overclocking, it's difficult if not impossible to do it without the ITE device driver, contacted tech. support & requested them - haven't heard a word from them, so not hopeful - without it, the handful of developers around won't be able to do anything.
Thanks for your help So one last question:
When I root can I restore to stock unrooted with any of these Roms found here :
vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7 (sorry I'm not allowed to post links)
Just in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Thanks
droid5800 said:
When I root can I restore to stock unrooted with any of these Roms found here : vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7
Just in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Thanks
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The newest one in the link is for ITE and if I recall, based on EU rom, and should be good for your device (for flashing back to stock, if ever needed, using the SUTL3 utility as it need the image to be in *.nb0 format and not an update.zip)
Yes, use either One Click v1.7 (newer ones not always work) method or Gingerbreak apk (which I find easier) to root & install CWM Recovery - once you do that, before doing anything else - do a Backup of your stock ROM first, it will be saved on the mSD card (and, to the PC or usb/portable hdd device) - before doing anything else.
If you are using both 3G & WiFi for data access, make a note of your settings (including under the wireless/advanced tab - check that your MAC address is shown).
Your saved CWM image files can be restored - returning it to near stock condition, except for rooting. If you feel comfortable enough at that point, do a Restore from CWM after a full wipe, then let it reboot & viola - you "stock" rom again.
AFAIK, newer ITE hardware-based vpad7 have 3 custom ROM to work with -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264647
Froyo Enhanced is nice & simple, very close to stock with a few Apps gone to make room, simple to flash & setup and WiFi working, a good starting point to try & fall back upon.
TJ's FM6 is designed for OC kernel and non-ITE rom, but with a patched kernel, will work - a bit more challenging to setup, but it's just as stable.
EU'v latest V1.7 ITE rom is my personal ROM of choice for daily use, very stable & smooth, responsive - developer is working toward a final release, due out soon. It support App2SD for ext3 with CWM Recovery, not as simple to get everything working together - but it does, patience needed. AND, the backup ROM is very important in case something didn't go "right" - sometimes, another pass with flashing the zip will get it, or, just restore to earlier known working version as saved.
Should be tons of fun & hours of flashing, sit back, read & take notes of steps - brew up a nice cup of coffee or tea, and enjoy the challenge - this isn't the faster Galaxy tablets, but for it's designed for - it's great (Flash 10.x not really going to work, just stay away - I still enjoy YouTube on it ....) Once configured & logged into Google Market, the newest update will be shown & downloaded, so don't worry about missing a few Apps as it's full access to nearly everything, free & paid.
Cheers !
Thanks for all the information. Spent the last few days doing a lot of reading. Ready to jump in.
The Froyo 2.2 Enhanced I notice the link was taken down by developer pending a newer version with better ITE support. Do you have a copy that works with the ITE hardware?
Found a link for superoneclick here: megaupload.com/?d=7S2CI6OY is that the correct version? Couldn't find any link to 1.7 in forums.
Thanks
droid5800 said:
Froyo 2.2 Enhanced link was taken down by developer pending a newer version with better ITE support. Do you have a copy that works with the ITE hardware?
Found a link for superoneclick here: megaupload.com/?d=7S2CI6OY is that the correct version? Couldn't find any link to 1.7 in forums.
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Hmm, oh yes - I read that a while ago, use this link to download - it worked for me with ITE hardware. There is no need to patch or use a different kernel. Just backup your original rom & test it by restoring first, do a full system/cache/dalvik wipe - then flash it, reboot for 1st. time, set it up past the activation screen, and enjoy.
http://www.multiupload.com/C3BM5IVRXJ
Your discovery is correct, the older SOC v1.7 to achieve root from shortfuse - user experience varied, some find it easy & others find it difficult.
Here's link to Gingerbreak v1.2 - please read the info/page & notes - alternative to SOC v1.7 just in case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Either one of them could trigger antivirus/firewall warnings & alerts, it's typical depending on what you use - turn them OFF while rooting - once you get it done, you can switch them all ON again.
Just checked my email account used for various tech. support request, still no reply or release of ITE device drivers for the pad, NOT good - without it, developers will find it ---- to get OC kernel, etc.
Definitely no Ice Cream Sandwich for our device, not even Honeycomb, I'm afraid .... oh, well - we make the best use of what we got !
Letitride said:
Hmm, oh yes - I read that a while ago, use this link to download - it worked for me with ITE hardware. There is no need to patch or use a different kernel. Just backup your original rom & test it by restoring first, do a full system/cache/dalvik wipe - then flash it, reboot for 1st. time, set it up past the activation screen, and enjoy.
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The backup you are referring too is a NANDROID backup with CWR or do I backup the individual partitions to *.img files. As I understand it there i currently no way to restore the *.img files is that correct or have I misunderstood? Additionally is there any point to create these image files.
Regards
Use CWM Recovery to create Nandroid backup of your existing stock ROM, just in case - restoring it will bring it as close to rooted stock "condition" as possible. Flashing the *.nb0 file with SUTL3 will unroot it & make the pad 100% back to stock. It only take a few extra minutes and will sit on the mSD card just in case it's needed.
Under CWM Recovery's Advanced Menu (I'm on v5.x that work with A2SD and ext3 partition) - you can selectively go back in, highlight & restore, say, the recovery.img file after flashing a ROM (which has the working non-OC stock kernel) - which is the patch needed to work with TJ Style's ROM.
I'm learning & discovering something new each week on squeezing more out of the pad - yet to explore the newest ext4 apps, that's a challenge. Although, I'm very happy & pleased with freeing up so much internal space & rom memory with A2SD and ext3,
Have fun !
Letitride thank you for your valuable insight and information it was truly appreciated.
I have rooted, installed CWM and made a nandroid backup. Cool considering when I started in on this thread a few days ago I new nothing about any of this stuff.
Thinking about experimenting with ROMs tomorrow can't have all the fun tonight.
What are your thoughts on A2SD I know you use it but does it shorten the life of the sdcard significantly and is it laggy. I was doing some research on just installing that rather than a custom ROM but a lot of the comments were negative.
You haven't steered me wrong so wanted your take.
One last thing completely unrelated is there a way to get rid of the autorun CD that loads when you plug device into PC it's annoying. Don't want to disable autorun on PC.
Again thanks for your assistance.
droid5800 said:
rooted, installed CWM and made a nandroid backup. when .... a few days ago I (k)new nothing about. Thinking about experimenting with ROMs .... can't have all the fun tonight.
your thoughts on A2SD .... research on just installing that rather than a custom ROM but .... comments were negative.
completely unrelated is there a way to get rid of the autorun CD that loads when you plug device .... Don't want to disable autorun on PC.
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YES - excellent, well done & pat yourself on the shoulder for success. So you are still running your stock rom, correct - I would make sure Titanium Backup, Astro or ES File Explorer and/or Root Explorer are installed, and, get comfortable with using them. Froyo Enhanced would be a safe 1st. custom ROM to try, very close to stock with tweaks & minor customization, easy to adapt for one's own.
As far as A2SD is concerned, if you are referring to DT's verison, I do not have any problems with it at all running on ext3 partition with the EU V1.7 ITE ROM - it's best to upgrade CWM to v5.x first and be prepared for the mSD card to be reformatted, thus losing any & all stored data and having to restore it from a safe backup location (i.e. from the PC or portable HDD, usb device, etc.) It's a bit tricky for ITE hardware pads, but several others using my detailed notes also managed to do it - (and, that's why it's so important to have backup, run TB backup and CWM backup, and, to make sure your 3G and WiFi settings are saved & working along the way)
I tried several other App2SD apps on the "Market" and they're okay, the last one that I used was App2SD by Sam Lu (as listed) but even that was limited as it wasn't using ext3 or ext4 - whereas DT's A2SD did it with ease and really freed up quite a bit (I have about 60 Apps loaded plus nearly all of the standard Google Apps like Talk, Voice, Gmail, Maps/Navigation, Facebook along with Twitter & YouTube installed - which easily overwhelmed the pad's resources otherwise.) I would recommend installing it - just make it a habit to run CWM Backup & TB Backup at major milestones or checkpoints, so that if something go wrong, just go into Recovery & restore the last working one.
The mSD card is inexpensive enough vs. the price paid for the pad itself, so I'm okay if I need to replace it sooner - I use a 2nd. mSD card (smaller at 8GB) to test & experiment, and, once I'm comfortable with major changes made & have time, I transition back to the bigger 16G mSD card.
Additional ideas: install alternate launchers (Go EX, ADW & my preferred - VTL.Launcher) and keyboard (Gingerbread, Go or Swype beta (via registration & emailed link to download) and Sense-themed Fancy Widgets, and, Dolphin HD browser, and WidgetSoid, Moon+ Reader, and, of course, Lookout Security. These & others of your own choosing will give you hours of fun in practical hands-on experimentation.
All in all, my configuration has been stable & solid for the past month, and I have yet run into any problems with freezes or FC, lost of data or issues with either the hardware or ROM - my "regular" smartphone is faster, quicker & fancier, but there's something about the 7" screen size, it keep me occupied & entertained for hours - and battery life while on standby mode is quite good.
Lastly, not much one can do about that autorun feature on the PC when the pad is connected via the mini-usb cable, I just hit the Esc key or Cancel to bypass all those messages & prompts (it's just like other usb devices & mobile phones, once they sync. up with the pc, the Apps are awaken and ....)
Have fun over the weekend with the pad & experiment
Hi,
Im a newbee also in android rooting, i had some question and clarification about some terms and hope someone can share their knowledge.
Here are some of my questions:
Im confused with the img backup file of each partition. Does redirecting again to each partition mean restoring the individual img file to each partition ex"cat /sdcard/mtd3_recovery.img > /dev/mtd/mtd3"
or we need a tool like in linux which is DD or DDRESCUE or something else.
For instance my backup individual partition img file i created before i install costum rom. If im correct in restoring the individual image file to each mtd partition is possible does it means im
back to the state where i used the original stock or before i installed the costum rom. Its like in linux where if u restore a dd root image file to the partition you will back to the state where you created
the image backup.
Does NANDROID backup means using a CWR recovery to backup the original/stock+rooted rom and restoring it using the same process from a costum rom will means im back to the state of original/stock+rooted rom
Im still in the rooted state right now. i just want to understand a few things like restoring to original/stock+rooted before i procedd to installing costum rom and other tweeking on the device.
Hope someone can share some info.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: simplified and updated with more questions. Over 100 views and so many unanswered questions!
UPDATE:
1- What is it that you backup when you backup your phone? Is it the content of the internal and SD card in one file? Or multiple files? Is this what's called a ROM?
Because last time I checked ROM means Read Only Memory, and my internal and Sd card are read and write.... ssssooooooooooo confusing.
1.1 Where's the OS (Android) installed? On the internal memory and on another partition?
2- I got my phone over at Koodo mobile. It's got their company name on the home screen. To avoid warranty problems:
2.1 Is this going to be copied over if I make a backup of the phone?
2.2 So many people suggest to just download a ROM of the stock version I got in my phone... would I have to find a Koodo ROM for the Optimus One or will any android 2.2 ROM do the trick.
2.3 Does putting a custom ROM or android 2.3 leave traces somewhere on the phone, even of you put back the original backup ROM?
3- How do you know if you made a proper backup and the size it should be?
Many thanks.
22vin:
- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
From the internal and SD card? All into one file?
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
Does KDZ make backups images of the phones, or is it only used to update?
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
So.... Custom recovery is ran from the phone and used for flashing KDZ is ran from Windows and used for flashing too?
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
I take that as a GPU overclocking YES.
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
(FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
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Hi everyone,
I recently bought a wonderful Optimus One and I love it!
[Updated poster N00b level: 3/10]
I spent the last hour reading all over the internet, and especially here, about how to root and use custom roms... (faqs, guides, the dictionary...)and some things are still not clear. I just like it when I want to get into doing touchy operations like updating firmwares and such and I get my facts straight.
[Updated poster N00b level: 4/10]
Here are the questions: (FYI, total android and smartphone noob, advanced windows user)
- I know my phone has internal memory and SD memory, and apps I download go on the internal or SD memory, but what about the OS itself? What is stored and where?
[Updated poster N00b level: 7/10] WARNING! N00b warning! Proceed carefully.
- I read a lot about using custom ROMs, but I couldn't find a reliable, confirmed answer to the following question: can I make a 100% image/backup of my phone before starting anything and if so, how?
Also, can I use this backup to revert the phone back to its original state and make my phone carrier believe nothing ever happened to it in case I need to? Is this image going to include stuff from the internal and SD and refer to question #1 everything stored in memory on the phone?
I know I can run some sort of bios to do so, but I feel like just installing the bios program and running it might put my phone at risk for a warranty void
[Updated poster N00b level: 8/10] WARNING! Critical level! Prepare your N00b bio suit if you dare answer!
- Last but not least: can you overclock the CPU only? Or both the CPU and GPU?
[Updated poster N00b level: 10/10] ALERT! Shutting down the app to prevent lack of knowledge damage from noobish user. Exiting...
I've had difficulties reading about all these things because almost all posts and articles seem to be written by advanced android users for advanced android users.
Thanks in advance.
MQ
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- yes, the backup will store all your data, including apps, settings, everything
- yes, you can restore everything, including unroot (if you want to be very sure you can flash the rom via kdz and the phone will be just like out-of-the-box)
- the "bios" is called custom recovery and it will void your warranty but you can go back to the stock recovery by flashing an image of a stock recovery or by flashing a whole rom via kdz (wich will erase everything as I said earlier)
- you will overclock the CPU, gpu tweaking means hw acceleration and other things wich can be disabled.
Thanks for the answers 22vin.
The overly careful person that I am asks:
- How do you call the backup of the whole phone data?
- When you do this backup, does it create 1 file, or multiple files? I ask this because I still don't understand how these phones work. Are they like gaming roms and emulators where you get a rom (copy of the cartridge) and you can also add other roms to change the way it works? Like a mod?
I got about 50 other questions, but it's mainly because I don't exactly know what ROMs are in smartphones.
It would be awesome if somebody could point me towards a "Everything you need to know about android phones and custom ROMS" for dummies. I understand how to use it, but not how it works in the inside so that I can safely go ahead with flashing and stuff...
Does this make sense? Tech stuff about the way the OS works and what is a ROM and a kernel... so that I know what I'm doing.
OP updated.
100 views later and just one reply (thanks to 22vin btw) made me wonder if my questions were clear enough.
*ahem* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
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Thanks for the links, terra. I actually read all these pages already.
Finally re-read the whole dictionary page, and in addition to some other info I read, I could make sense of a lot more info.
The general info page uses terms that is not covered in the dictionary/terms page so a lot of info I can't understand.
Like the info about what the kernel does and why change it. Leads to a wikipedia generic kernel page.
NAND actually allows for creating a 1:1 copy of the phone's content. Probably a copy of the internal memory. Another guess is that the OS is also on that partition but I can't find that info.
About the SD card, it seems to allow the copy of some native apps.
Only thing that's not clear is if it leaves ANY traces on the phone after a recover from a backup.
The Os is no stored in the internet memory and sdcard, it's somewhere else you don't need to know about.
Yes, a Nandroid backup restores your settings before you flash a new ROM. You need to unroot it to make your carrier believe nothing has happened. Another way, you can flash kdz which will completely reset your phone back into into the state you bought it(minus the carrier installed apps).
You only can overclock CPU, not GPU.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, terra.
@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
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@ terratrix
Since when modding phones can void warrenty?
I send my htc wildfire with the cm7 and the screen is in deep cracked situation(display still showing)... So I send it for servicing but they saw my os is cyanogenmod... But they never void my warrenty lol... And so more, I gor free repair BUT in may... My phone cracked again, worst... It bends!
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It varies from country to country, carriers to carriers, phone manufacturer to phone manufacturer . Just a precaution.
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Hi, new here although have been guesting for 6 months..
I have been thinking about rooting for over a year now and since just before I picked up my S3 last June when I had my nexus S I was 'researching' the rooting procedure and potential problems / benefits
Took the plunge tonight and rooted my S3.. went well and took about 5-10 minutes (was being VERY careful)
So now my phone is rooted
My main purposes
1) Get rid of major bloatware
2) backup data
3) Overclock performance
4) increase already impressive battery life
5) possibly get a custom ROM (unsure)
I know the answers are dotted around and I have seen bits and pieces but wanted a personalised answer if that makes sense..
What are the first things I should do> btw used the samsung galaxy 3 i900 v.5.0 toolkit to root.. very nice and easy
I have downloaded ROM manager, titanium backup, busybox and hc-ktool (although i think the last if for s2?)
I have backed up rom by booting into recovery
** How do I backup the EFS folder on Galaxy s3?
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
** What else can i do to take care of the 'security' aspect before messing with anything?
** What should I be doing first?
** How can I overclock performance and what is that nice app that lets you schedule changes in performance based on phone state?
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
** What else can I do with a rooted phone.. i mainly play games on my commute and use internet..
** Oh yes and how can i download games designed for Nvidia only.. such as Horn and Dark Meadow?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, used to dabble in programming over 10 years ago... so while im new to rooting etc. with the right information and enough reading ill be ok as ill be extremely cautious..
Thanks in advance guys
Kobrax said:
** How do I backup the EFS folder on Galaxy s3?
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
** What else can i do to take care of the 'security' aspect before messing with anything?
** What should I be doing first?
** How can I overclock performance and what is that nice app that lets you schedule changes in performance based on phone state?
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
** What else can I do with a rooted phone.. i mainly play games on my commute and use internet..
** Oh yes and how can i download games designed for Nvidia only.. such as Horn and Dark Meadow?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, used to dabble in programming over 10 years ago... so while im new to rooting etc. with the right information and enough reading ill be ok as ill be extremely cautious..
Thanks in advance guys
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For EFS backup: here
For Titanium: usually I do a full backup of all system & user apps every 2nd day (in case I flash something the day after) whereas restoring system apps & data is NOT advised as it might lead to force closes
For ROMs: look in the android development section, many choices available
Hope it helps, thanks for a thanks
You can get rid of the majority of bloatware via Titanium backup. About the ROMs, it is solely depends on your personal preferences. I would suggest using GalaxSih kernel by Harunjo if battery life is your main concern and Perseus by Andreilux kernel for performance and battery life.
Good touchwiz ROM I would recommend is omega ROM. It's easy to install and you can remove all bloatware/selectively install the ones you want.
Siyah kernel is very popular, allowing users to fully customize settings.. ie overclocking, undervolting... among other things.
Setcpu also seems to be pretty popular for cpu customizations, as well as allowing users to stress test if you decide you want to undervolt.
Sywped from my GT-I9300 running Omega v27.2 & franco.Kernel r19
Kobrax said:
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My main purposes
1) Get rid of major bloatware
Flash a stock rom
2) backup data
Nandroid backup via CWM recovery .
3) Overclock performance
no comment
4) increase already impressive battery life
Get rid of apps .
5) possibly get a custom ROM (unsure)
I have downloaded ROM manager, titanium backup, busybox and hc-ktool (although i think the last if for s2?)
ROM MANAGER and CWM CF Root = no
** How do I do a manual backup of everything on my phone using titanium? i have a schedule set up for twice a week
TB only backs up apps .
** What should I be doing first?
READING
** How do I delete bloatware safely?
Read the thread apps safe to remove in Themes
** What ROMS are good for S3 and where to get them?
A banned question choose yourself start with the stickies and basics .
jje
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Thanks for the help so far guys :good:
To the last poster, yes I appreciate its kind of a banned quesion about ROMS, it isnt a best ROM thread though as such and although maybe not worded clear enough, i was asking for some good ROMS that would achieve the things I listed. I will of course do my own research as I spent 5 months reading up about rooting in the first place. I would have hoped that as it was asked somewhat in context it would be seen differently.
The whole concept of rooting still feels new and unexplored and is only as I am confident enough to go for it that I am.. id rather re-ask questions and understand in relation to my specific situation in addition to reading prior posts than just read other peoples posts and hope it relates to my experience.
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.
All that rooting does is to grant the user a higher level of access to the system of itself it does nothing .
Recovery set the location in Nandroid to ext sd card .Likewise with TB backup .
Roms all roms are good for S3 .
Suggestion is to start with a rom you understand what it is and how to flash it .
jje
Kobrax said:
Thanks for the help so far guys :good:
To the last poster, yes I appreciate its kind of a banned quesion about ROMS, it isnt a best ROM thread though as such and although maybe not worded clear enough, i was asking for some good ROMS that would achieve the things I listed. I will of course do my own research as I spent 5 months reading up about rooting in the first place. I would have hoped that as it was asked somewhat in context it would be seen differently.
The whole concept of rooting still feels new and unexplored and is only as I am confident enough to go for it that I am.. id rather re-ask questions and understand in relation to my specific situation in addition to reading prior posts than just read other peoples posts and hope it relates to my experience.
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.
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I take it you mean the backup, in which case it can be moved anywhere just do not rename it or you will not be able to use it. I prefer a root explorer to the my files app, I personally use ES file explorer then anything can be moved anywhere on the phone.
Some of your other questions:
Backup efs. You can do that through HC-kTool, just tap "backup efs to /sdcard/efs.img" then you can copy it to your ext sd, your PC, USB pen, get as paranoid as you like.
Manual backup via titanium. click the little tick on the top right of the main page then tap "backup all user apps"
Security, just be careful, and be sure to search XDA before you change anything that could do harm
what to do first. Backup with CWM recovery, backup efs, install a root explorer, install and do an initial run of ad free android.
overclock. To overclock you need a custom kernel, I use Siyah and it offers a lot of options for overclocking, undervolting, 2 CPU governors GPU clock rates and volting etc etc etc. take care, overclocking too much can cause damage to the CPU over time.
Bloatware. use Titanium to safely remove bloatware, and there are guides telling you what is safe.
ROMs. These are my personal favorite SuperNexus 0 bloatware and speedy also the next build will be 4.1.2 and Omega a nice fast samsung based rom, you can choose JB or ICS what I like about Omega is you can remove all bloatware during the install, of choose what you want, it is also extremely smooth with Siyah kernel.
What else. You can do anything litterally anything, think of something to do and you will be able to do it.
Hope I helped
Kobrax said:
About Titanium Backup.. it seems the backup this morning has stored on the SD card.. how can I set it to backup to the EXT SD Card? I have created a folder on the EXT card 'TitaniumBackup' so how would I tell Titanium Backup to back up there instead as I cant see where I would do this?
Also, 1.7GB on the SD card is taken up by CWM recovery. Can someone explain why and how I move this 1.7GB to EXT card? I dont know if I can just move it using My Files. I doubt it.
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For Titanium - open the apps - press menu - preferences - backup folder location.
In recovery, you can choose to backup to external sd card.
You can move the nandroid to anywhere you like but you must put it back to the original folder when you need to restore it. 1.7GB is not big at all
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Hey,
1st post here at xda. I have a s3 running 4.12 , stock rom vodafone in ireland.
I installed CWM and rooted phone. Then done a backup with CWM.
I tried to install R5 stock rom from internal sd card, i selected the zip file and the installation started but had an error
i coulnd;t see.
At this stage i panicked a bit. I tried again but wiped internal sdcard in CWM before i started.
Now the phone wont boot to any OS (since tried to install 2 other custom roms from xda, both times screnn went blank after choosing installation options)
Cant recover backup as its no longer on internal sd card.
I can access CWM. Should I start by installing stock rom from samsung site ?
Am I doing the custom rom installation correct by using CWM to install from zip file in sd card ?
I tried to install roms with odin but its looking for tar file ?
thanks for reading,
Phil
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
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Flash custom rom with recovery or odin?
boomboomer said:
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
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thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
Do your research before attempting things like this. I'm relatively new in flashing, before I began the first time I made sure I followed and understood every steps before proceeding, go check youtube for tutorial videos if you are really not sure, sometimes it pays being paranoid
philophilo said:
thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
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Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
Memory loss after installing ROM
Benko111 said:
Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
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thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
0 folder
philophilo said:
thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
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I know the subject has been covered already, just looking for a thread where i can read in simply form about what to do.
I copied blob file to pc , freed up another 4 gb, OS and backups still taking up 12/16GB of internal storage without any user app or data , just not right.
Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? I've been trying different apps (with same or similar functions) which have what I need, a swapper.
I'm not sure if it's because I'm still using stock rom & stock kernel or the like, but I do have the space (1GB even)
The app itself is just around 2mb or so.
Or if anyone have a guide so I can use swap in it (to increase RAM), it would be awesome.
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Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? I've been trying different apps (with same or similar functions) which have what I need, a swapper.
I'm not sure if it's because I'm still using stock rom & stock kernel or the like, but I do have the space (1GB even)
The app itself is just around 2mb or so.
Or if anyone have a guide so I can use swap in it (to increase RAM), it would be awesome.
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Never used swapper, so I can't be sure about it. However, stock ROM is very abusive on both internal memory and RAM. I'd definitely try using CM 10.2, which manages RAM much better (and is way better all in all).
Digdis said:
Never used swapper, so I can't be sure about it. However, stock ROM is very abusive on both internal memory and RAM. I'd definitely try using CM 10.2, which manages RAM much better (and is way better all in all).
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Is it this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/opt...development/rom-cyanogenmod-10-l7-ii-t3048672
Just trying to make sure as I couldn't find it on the official download site.
Also wondering if there's a guide for flashing it, since my last device before this was Samsung (so flashing is a bit different? is what I'm guessing)
Thanks for reading
ekrezem said:
Is it this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/opt...development/rom-cyanogenmod-10-l7-ii-t3048672
Just trying to make sure as I couldn't find it on the official download site.
Also wondering if there's a guide for flashing it, since my last device before this was Samsung (so flashing is a bit different? is what I'm guessing)
Thanks for reading
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Yes, it is this one.
Flashing this ROM (or any other) essentially consists of three stages:
1. Rooting
2. Flashing recovery
(2.5 Backup)
3. Flashing the ROM via recovery
Rooting: If you have a JB ROM, then it's easy and there are many ways to do it. My favorite is Kingo Android Root. You can also look for Framaroot, Towelroot or search for any other rooting methods. If you have KK, you'll need to revert to JB and then root.
Flashing recovery: Flash either TWRP (recommended) or CWM.
Backup: Not a must. but highly recommended for the case you need to either revert to stock or restore apps and/or their data. Reboot to recovery and hit backup. You'll need some space on your SD card.
Flashing the ROM: Reboot to recovery and follow the instructions in the thread. As you have the P713 which has no NFC, flash the NONFC zip as well.
Good luck.
Digdis said:
If you have KK, you'll need to revert to JB and then root.
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Or he could just follow this.
shhnedo said:
Or he could just follow this.
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Right.
There's a reason I only quoted the KK part of your post. Normally, back when I updated to KK by OTA, I had no idea that KK had a locked bootloader and the only way to achieve root was reverting back to JB. Since I found that guide with the modified .kdzs I just LG-Flash-Tool-ed a custom KK kdz from that thread and got crackin' with SuperSU, newer TWRP and the purified stock v2(since that was the most stable ROM at the time). No backups needed, atleast for me.