Marshmallow SD Card Adoption - Speed? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys - if you haven't heard already (and I know you have), Android Marshmallow will allow you to "adopt" your sd card as internal storage.
It's too early to tell for sure because no test devices actually support sd cards, but I'm wondering what the speed impact might be of doing this.
If Android actually sets it up similar to RAID 0 (striping), we might actually see a speed increase. Though this seems unlikely.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I see a lot of people opting for the 16GB Moto X Pure saying that they'll just wait for M and get a 128GB SD Card, but what might be the real world consequences of relying on this?

I was wondering the same. I have a phone with 8gb internal storage, which might have been fine fir 2011 but sucks in 2015,with app sizes growing day by day. If they allow external SD to be used as internal, it would be really great.

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probably already discussed, but whats the deal w/ sdhc & dcd's rom?

I'm looking to get a bigger sd card for my xv6800. i want to get a 8gb card to load up on music. 2 questions (pardon me if they have already been discussed, please provide links):
1) will dcd's 3.1.2 rom support the sdhc 8gb cards w/o any upgrades?
2) anybody know what read/write speed our phone can put out? that class card can I most fully utilize?
-randy
The capacity that the phone can support has little to do with the rom and more to do with the capability's built into the phones hardware. The HTC 6800 is fully capable of using SDHC cards, regardless of rom.
As for the speed, get the fastest one you feel like, SD is a spec, and as long as you use an SD card on an SD spec device, it should be able to utilize it.
I can't see of many ways you would see a big difference though by buying a faster microSD, usually the faster cards are only used by cameras when pushing large photos into memory quickly. There is very little you will use with the phone that should need any major speed from an MicroSD.
So go to Meritline or something, get an 8GB card, and enjoy it.
Sort of right but,,,
VulnoX said:
The capacity that the phone can support has little to do with the rom and more to do with the capability's built into the phones hardware. The HTC 6800 is fully capable of using SDHC cards, regardless of rom.
As for the speed, get the fastest one you feel like, SD is a spec, and as long as you use an SD card on an SD spec device, it should be able to utilize it.
I can't see of many ways you would see a big difference though by buying a faster microSD, usually the faster cards are only used by cameras when pushing large photos into memory quickly. There is very little you will use with the phone that should need any major speed from an MicroSD.
So go to Meritline or something, get an 8GB card, and enjoy it.
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The 6800 stock 2.0.09 ROM would see all of a 2 gig, but only 3.6 gig of the new 8gig until I updated to the DCD ROM. But my friend has the Samsung and when we did the same patches I used on my 6800 to make the 8gig work with the old ROM his totally failed to see the card at all, so I figure the slot hardware was not able to make use of the sdhd driver. So I think that you are right that the hardware must support it, and the 6800 does, but the ROM must also have the drivers for it, which DCD's do.
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So go to Meritline or something, get an 8GB card, and enjoy it.
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Newegg.com is another.
so the new 3.x.x dcd roms will see a full microSDHC 8GB ?
if so, that's great news. (FAT32 i assume).
I've been sticking around with my 1GB, but if this is true, I'll have to get one

Install apps in A1 SDCard ?

Hi !
I have just install my new a1 sdcard in my tab s3, but as I can see I not still be able to install more apps than with my previous non a1 sdcard ! So all is the same but I suppose that the sd is just faster....
This is happening also in my s7 edge.
A1 sdcard was not suppose to let us install any app directly into the sd (not even just move some of them) ?
Is there anything I am missing? Any special format or whatever?
Many thanks !
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If you want to install apps on the SD Card (are you asking this question) then you may want to try the Storage Enabler patch. If this isn't what you're after then I do not know what you're saying (sorry).
I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
Bluering5 said:
I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
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The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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Istarth said:
The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
To install apps directly to an sd-card, you need to enable Adoptable Storage via this patch
volcolm said:
Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
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I donĀ“t know If u had read about these cards before... I have SanDisk Extreme 128GB Class 10, U3, V30, A1, No matter how expensive is the card but if the card is not an A1 card the aleatory access is not good enough...
A1 means this cards are much much faster for aleatory access / read... and after some bench I have to say that difference is so big... So the card is working well and very fast both sequential and aleatory...
Anyway I thought This kind of cards could be considered by Android in a special way... and let us to install any app in it with no restrictions and without any patch or root mod... but as I can see.... no luck.... again after some installed apps.... memory problems are here again... no matter if you have 200 free GB in your SD.... so bad....
Many thanks !

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OK...you offered...I am thinking about purchasing the Huawei Ascend XT. In the specs (phonescoop) I noticed 16Gb internal storage with 8.4 "open" usage. That's 7Gb of factory installed bloatware? #1. Other than the Nougat O.S. could most of the bloatware be SAFELY removed #2. In asking that...is most of the bloatware Google and google support services?
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let me know what u want removed on it and i can see if its safe to remove did u buy the phone or gonna buy it my swift n fast rom b170 runs the best something on b180 has bad battery drain so if u get it u can use my rom and if u want it customized or me to make u one customized let me know
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
Huawei Bloatware
madvane20 said:
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
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I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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i dont use the fm turner app i remove it from my roms or least my phone my roms have pretty much all the bloat removed that i could find im still working on new one will be a bit the phone is nice just when we finally get a working dev tree etc we will have custom roms the phone has same hardware as honor 5x i do believe the rr port i did where wifi was broke the phone runs fast so im trying to fix the wifi for it for temp if i can if not im still working on my new rom
It's a FM receiver which requires wired headphones to be connected as the wire functions as an antenna too.
69Rixter said:
I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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Rick
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Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
Uninstall apps you don't need that take up internal storage, use the storage manager to clear apps caches, move data including music, pictures and videos to micro SD, set apps to store their data in micro SD where possible. Can't do anything else that I am aware of. I usually have 1GB free internal storage after doing this and have to do it regularly.
WifiGhost said:
Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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im still sick havent got around to much have u tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
WifiGhost said:
Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
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No you don't have me confused at all. Thank you for the response Madame. Sorry for the late reply. Well I think today is the day I will finally root and flash a new ROM. As im tired of EMUI and no adoptable storage.
Can you link me to the ROM you reccomend? I want adoptable storage. Not that much bloatware. Full functionality, including camera, wifi, netflix, wireless display etc. Also I want a little more available RAM if possible. I want adoptable storage. Please reccomend a ROM.
One more thing. I've seen that the Samsung Micro SD cards above 32 GB are working for this phone . But I may pick up a 32GB or 64GB Sandisk micro SD card. Will the Sandisk be just as compatible as the Samsung? I plan to simply get an Class 10 of 95mb read speed and 10mb write speed. Like the Sandisk ultra or the Samsung evo cards. Thank you fam.
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69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
Keep Pushin'
Rick
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Sorry i called you Madvane, Rick new here
What's up. I'm new to these parts of the forums. I have downgraded from s8+'s and now I'm on the H1611. I have your b180 room installed on my device and for the life of me cannot get Xposed to install without dealing with the constant boot loop. I know it takes something like 20 min. I've read somewhere but an hour is ridiculous. I have tried flashing through TWRP and I've tried through Magisk and no luck. Any idea to get Xposed installed?
Current:
Your b180 room
Rooted with Magisk
Another thing is it normal to have ram at like 300-400mb free? This phone feels super sluggish and I think MIUI is far too heavy for this phone. I agree with the folks in here that want lineageos. I'll search for a branch or source tree to see if I can get something going at least. If not I'll join the club with trying to build a tree. This phone has "0" snappiness whatsoever. A friend's LG Leon lte feels way faster than this BEHEMOTH of a phone
epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
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epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
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Well what information exactly were you looking for? Installing Xposed is not a one liner and can get a bit complicated with all the different versions.
You could have written up what Xposed version you installed and how you did it to help the next person - that's how forums work.
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Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
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Exactly so, why was your reply opposite of what you are telling me? And it's quite obvious that there is only the magisk way of installing it. I'm not trying to argue with you man. I asked that question a day or 2 ago and I noticed that no one really was even cruising around in the forums so I said to myself what the heck, might as well keep trying things on my own. Also, noticed developement has come to a complete stop a while ago. I honestly thought this place was deserted. It's all good though, like your thread says, to ask you anything, so I could get pointed in a different direction haha. All good though,case closed bro later.
epikroms,
It's not my thread - madvane20s thread. Yep, slow around here cause the main party is over since the devices are low volume/low-mid range and been out for a while. Enjoy your J3.

Anyone tried a 512GB micro SD card yet?

So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
No one?
From my knowledge it's only up to 256, so if you get a 512, it may not work. Sorry haven't tried it yet, but as per the spec of poco it's only up to 256. I had a different phone before, a galaxy a8 2018 which suppprted up to 256 as well and when i tried my friend's 512gb it didn't recognize it, so most likely same will happen with the poco
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So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
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you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
TioCareca said:
you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
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I would also have like to use a 512GB card. Does anyone know why this limitation exists? Is it a hardware constraint with the card reader, or a firmware or O/S constraint? I naively thought that SDXC compatibility would allow anything up to 2TB, but it's clearly not as simple as that.
TioCareca said:
you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
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That was definitely not my experience with other phones. Usually cards with higher than phone rated capacity work just fine.
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
akshey2021 said:
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
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The Pocophone F1 was released long after 400GB SD cards appeared on the market, yet they only state support for 256GB??
https://youtu.be/DQfMWA6HmsE
This is what I mean.
akshey2021 said:
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
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akshey2021 said:
https://youtu.be/DQfMWA6HmsE
This is what I mean.
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Interesting video - thanks. So in theory a FAT32-formatted 512Gb SD card should be supported by any phone that supports FAT32 and SDXC? It's a shame there isn't a more recent video which tries 512GB cards in current smartphones.
In older days, when external storage limited size was 32Gb some Motorola's users (including me with Rokr Z6) used to divide 64Gb as two 32Gb mountable partitions.
You can try it too.
virtos4 said:
That was definitely not my experience with other phones. Usually cards with higher than phone rated capacity work just fine.
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did you fill them?
some phones i could use higher sdcards, but in others i got problems the time i reach the advised memory limits...
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Adriano-A3 said:
In older days, when external storage limited size was 32Gb some Motorola's users (including me with Rokr Z6) used to divide 64Gb as two 32Gb mountable partitions.
You can try it too.
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i used to do that sometimes too, and even use sdcard as internal memory with some apps and hacks...
TioCareca said:
did you fill them?
some phones i could use higher sdcards, but in others i got problems the time i reach the advised memory limits...
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Currently my 200GB card has 13GB free on my Galaxy S5 (rated up to 128GB). No probs whatsoever.
virtos4 said:
Currently my 200GB card has 13GB free on my Galaxy S5 (rated up to 128GB). No probs whatsoever.
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lucky you, or maybe i was using cheap cards on cheap phones ?
I have a 512Gb Huawei memory card on my Poco F1 working fine, I haven't reached the 256Gb capacity because I've just received today. But so far so good ?
Lexar 512GB 633x (black / blue) from Aliexpress is working fine. At the moment 217GB is filled on the card.
(AOSP Lineage 16)
Sir,
Sir,
I don't know if you have found an answer to your question as of yet but I have. I've purchased several different 512gb cards knowing that I had some use for them somewhere. The fact is that the Poco F1 does see 512 gigabytes... And then down the rabbit hole we go. After about 20 to 30 minutes of you installing the card and moving over all kinds of information, the Poco F1 begins to forget things. That's the only way I know how to put it. all the sudden some of the stuff that you have moved over to the card is not reachable even though you still see some of the shortcuts or some of the things that point to it depending on what program you're using and the next thing you know after about an hour and a half two hours it also can't find those either and then some of the program start to crash. These are not programs that I have you some third-party where to move over to the card at all. I didn't move over any software to the card I'm just talkin about moving over some of the things that it was to the card. and then you'll notice after a few more hours that the card is unreadable. The way that you can fix this is to go ahead and put it into any computer and I used a program called mini it's a freeware program to recover the lost partition. then I put it right back in the phone and at first the phone fights with and everything else but you can get it to look at it and see it again only to repeat the exact same problem over and over and over again. The problem seems to be exacerbated if you were to use a torrent program to save data to the driver's if it was a download folder from multiple sources at once. I tried everything I could. I even tempted fate a little bit by saying if I could use aparted the cell phone version in order to partition the drive into two different types of partitions one of them course being the f2fs partition I was trying to see if I could successfully divide the memory card into two partitions so that the computer or cell phone would see them as two separate entities does relieving the problem of it seeing larger than 256. this was not successful though I cannot promise that I did everything correctly. I would greatly appreciate any information you happen to have about this. I have several of these 512gb cards and some of which I saved a lot of money on some of which I spend a lot of money on but they all seem to operate the exact same with the exact same problem. if you had any suggestions on how to add that to a Asus tablet that I'm now having the exact same problem with and much lower micro SD card total capacity sizes than the Poco F1 s I would greatly appreciate that too. The Asus laptop that I'm dealing with is an Asus e203m and it comes with 32GB of real special fast memory that uses hard drive and so you can see we're picking this up for almost nothing is a great deal provided that you're a little tech-savvy can work with clouds quite a bit and hopefully find the solution to the problem and adding a 500 gigabyte micro SD card. The problem is that you can't partition those the way that you'd like or you think that you could. but for me I really love computers and love to turn branches on the weekend so to speak. I'd also love to learn anyting you might be willing to share about partitioning and the like.I know that windows will only see the first partition of a microSD card. but then who wants to be limited to just Windows anyway.
Reborn.N said:
So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
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I have Samsung Evo Select 512 gigs and been using it since 6 months.
I have it full almost 90-95%+ full everytime as i load a lot of movies in it. During the time of writing it was 97% full.
It is formatted to exfat and is working perfectly.
There is no data loss or anything like that after 256 gigs.
I hope this answers all your questions.
If you have any more questions just let me know.
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Question cant move apps to external

Did they change something in android 11? I have went to developer options and enable Force allow apps on external . However when I go to the apps there is no "change" in the storage section. I verified with my samsung s9 andriod 10 the app had a change button in storage. Anyway I might turn this in , it seems like a good phone but 32gb of internal storage. genshin will fill it . I will probably get a 64gb model moto g power on amazon.
32 is nowhere near enough in 2022, its only for light users who use their phones for web browsing and some photos. 64 is okayish, itll hold your apps, but i recommend moving all your data to your sd card. What I will recommend, however, is a 4/128 device at minimum. Being such a great device for 2021 standards in the budget range (48mp camera, snap 662 etc) i honestly cant believe that motorolla had the audacity to release a 32gb model. 64 should have been the minimum. For the price though, at the time you wouldnt have been able to get anything better in terms of performance. With budget phones its always tradeoffs.
You can also use adopted storage, formatting an SD card as such, splitting some for the actual SD, and other for apps and such. That is what many do to make them usable, on the cheap, and high quality SD cards are more inexpensive than the entire device being upgraded too. If you've the funds for it, by all means, but if having to keep it on the cheap, that is a great option.
onoitsu..thats what im trying to do. i dont have that option with this phone. i think i read that 11 will only do that with approved apps. even if you could with 10. this phone is going back ordered a 64g b version
---never mind I had to look up adoptable storage I didn't understand what you are saying. Yes. format as internal. i hope this phone has the option
Setting SD as Adoptable Storage doesn't seem to be functioning properly. When I format SD as internal storage, everything goes as expected except for any actual meaningful data transfer between Internal storage and the newly formatted storage.
In fact, it seems to be the case where hardly any of the largest apps can take advantage of the space, forcing the phone to throw limited space warnings despite the internal storage showing tens of gigabytes in available space. The whole thing seems broken and bugged. Has anyone experienced a similar problem when it comes to using adoptable storage on these devices?
ChiefWilNel said:
Did they change something in android 11? I have went to developer options and enable Force allow apps on external . However when I go to the apps there is no "change" in the storage section. I verified with my samsung s9 andriod 10 the app had a change button in storage. Anyway I might turn this in , it seems like a good phone but 32gb of internal storage. genshin will fill it . I will probably get a 64gb model moto g power on amazon.
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Check your battery and device care storage settings sometimes the option only shows up when takingba certain route to it.

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