Does anyone know why the operating system takes up 14GB in the 128GB version, whereas in the 32GB model, the OS only occupies <8GB?
Also, just got the 128GB and not really impressed with the battery life. Went from 95% to 90% overnight (5 hrs) in airplane mode. I guess that's expected. Came from a Note 4.
Overnight my phone goes from 90% at 00h30 to 86% at 10h so I think it's a good battery never the less.
marcochapita said:
Overnight my phone goes from 90% at 00h30 to 86% at 10h so I think it's a good battery never the less.
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Then there's something wrong with my battery considering I lost 5% in five hours in AIRPLANE MODE. You only lost 4% in 9.5 hours in (assuming) normal mode.
Yes in normal mode with Wi-Fi on. The thing is in sleep mode he does lose only a few percentage. Maybe you have some app that wakes your device or tries at least.
Nobody has an answer as to why Touchwiz takes up 14GB on the 128GB model?
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Let's collect some statistics regarding battery discharge rate when tablet suppose to be asleep, like overnight.
I'll start:
ROM - TnT lite 4.2, WiFi On, BT Off, in 10 hours 14% charge drop - 1.4% per hour.
with WiFi Off - around 1% per hour.
I was killing all apps on background before going asleep but this does not affect discharge rate too much, maybe 0.2% and as well might be just measuring error.
What is your tablet's discharge rate?
vegan 5.1.1 clean install, no additional kernel/OC tweaks
lost 30% over 6.5hr of sleep. battery usage shows very little idle time and alot of "android system". i wonder if that means something stayed awake and kept the tab from sleeping or what. o, and wifi was on and awake the whole time too
anyway to put this thing to sleep and last a few days like my HTC mytouch3g when i put it into airplane mode? that phone would drop to the lowest clock speed and sleep with very little battery drain
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vegan 5.1.1 clean install, no additional kernel/OC tweaks
lost 30% over 6.5hr of sleep. battery usage shows very little idle time and alot of "android system". i wonder if that means something stayed awake and kept the tab from sleeping or what. o, and wifi was on and awake the whole time too
anyway to put this thing to sleep and last a few days like my HTC mytouch3g when i put it into airplane mode? that phone would drop to the lowest clock speed and sleep with very little battery drain
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Why not just power it all the way off? Deep sleep is essentially Off anyway, minus the bootup time.
Cold start is about 50 seconds. When starting from standby - almost instant.
It would be nice if our GTablet can go into standby and don't lose charge with that rate.
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Cold start is about 50 seconds. When starting from standby - almost instant.
It would be nice if our GTablet can go into standby and don't lose charge with that rate.
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Nice, but impossible. Just plug it in overnight. If you want it "always on" you can expect about 16 hours of standby with 4-6 hours of use mixed in. I'm so used to daily charging it doesn't even bother me anymore. Just really happy this thing goes all day on wifi without deep sleep... good enough.
Well, I am inclined to think that this is a software problem (Android OS). Xoom with HC does ok when in sleep mode. Someone say 3%-4% overnight.
Vlad_z said:
Well, I am inclined to think that this is a software problem (Android OS). Xoom with HC does ok when in sleep mode. Someone say 3%-4% overnight.
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Only way it would do that is deep sleep. As in, nearly off - everything powered down except ram, CPU halted.
That's essentially the same as putting your laptop to sleep, vs power down.
The GTab's deep sleep sucks. Not sure what's wrong with it, but it's below the level of android. So it could be a firmware issue. I'm happy with the 2-3% per hour drain when "on" but screen off, connected to wifi, able to generate alerts and alarms.
So, my interest was piqued
I use pershoot's UV/OC kernel, keep wifi on all the time, and use softlocker to make sure my gtab *never* deep sleeps. This is on Vegantab-ginger.
I installed batterymonitor widget, and am collecting data.
First interesting tidbit, my "screen off, but wifi on/not really asleep" power drain is 125mA
Given the 3650mAH rating of the battery, that gives me 29.2 hours total standby time in this state.
Working backwards, that's a drain of just under 3% per hour.
You're actually seeing MUCH WORSE than that, at 4.6% per hour (30% over 6.5 hours) so I agree with you, your software is doing something very bad. You can get nearly 50% better battery life by using gingerbread, pershoot's kernel, and keeping it from going into deep sleep
my tablet lose near 10 %
n21klin said:
my tablet lose near 10 %
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Any more details? Number of hours on standby? ROM version? Was it deep sleeping (wifi off, clock/time not updated until a few seconds after power on?)
Assuming 8 hours or so sleeping, this is much closer to the expected 1.125%/hour discharge rate for "deep" sleep, or about 90 hours total on deep sleep standby.
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Any more details? Number of hours on standby? ROM version? Was it deep sleeping (wifi off, clock/time not updated until a few seconds after power on?)
Assuming 8 hours or so sleeping, this is much closer to the expected 1.125%/hour discharge rate for "deep" sleep, or about 90 hours total on deep sleep standby.
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if that was indeed true (that you manage to get your tab to sleep for 8 hrs and only losing 10%) then i want whatever you got. I want my tab to be able to sleep for 3-4 days, even if it mean having to settle for JUST 1.0 Ghz
The lowest I've seen so far in batterymonitor widget is ~108ma draw (screen off, 214mhz clock, wifi off)... if the thing goes into "deep sleep" then batterymonitor (and everything else) stops dead, since the cpu is halted - you'd need to poke it inside to see what the load is when deep sleeping.
108mA gets you to 33 hours. To get to 72 hours you need to get the load down to about 50mA. That's the budget to keep the ram chips powered, and the on/off buttons
Battery drain with ext3 partition and S2E?
Is there a perfect way to check what's draining your battery? Recently I've been noticing that my battery consumes almost 20% of charge during night, whereas it used to only eat about 5% in my previous installation of CM7.
First install of CM 7.0.3 - Good battery life, night drain is only about 5-8%.
Second install of CM 7.0.3 - Worse battery life, night drain is about 25%.
The main difference in the second install in that I have made an ext3 partition in the sd card and I am using S2E and have moved some apps to the sd card. Will this consume more battery?
Had a look at the battery history in spare parts, and I see that the partial wake usage by Maps and K9 mail topped the list. Uninstalled both to see it they were the issue. I have Juice defender plus where I have configured data off hours from 12:30 am to 6 am. Still it drinks battery. Any thoughts?
Sorry to ask a probably popular question but search on the XDA app is very meh.
Phone idle will always be the top battery killer for the average user. That's just because the phone is isle more than awake most of the time.
You can get an app like setcpu and have a custom profile to underclock your cpu while you're not using your phone though
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Sorry to ask a probably popular question but search on the XDA app is very meh.
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What do you call murdering?
Is your battery dead in 2 hours, or do you see idle as the top user after 12 hours with 70% left?
Why don't you charge the phone while on. When 100%I turn it off. (Don't unplug power in this whole process ) then pull battery. In a couple seconds you will see a battery with a ? In it. Then place the battery back in. It should say 5%. Let it sit for 3-4 hours. Boot to recovery and while battery status. If no recovery, boot to os and wipe battery status. Then phone idle ( the phone only shows "phone idle" to give you will a total of 100% since before your battery once had about 60% of normal battery life. Now that you have alot Battery, phone idle is a much smaller % than you had before.
Not murdering but in a 2hr space 50+% of my battery is eaten up due to Phone Idle.
I'll try that fully charge trick tomorrow. Thanks.
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Not murdering but in a 2hr space 50+% of my battery is eaten up due to Phone Idle.
I'll try that fully charge trick tomorrow. Thanks.
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Before I did that I had ..... 4 hour talk time max. Now im 6+hrs. You'll see. Thank me later
Put your battery in the witness protection program. But seriously if in 2 hours ~50% is gone, I don't think its phone idle. Also something to consider is terrible reception eats battery. And 4g even though its not true 4g those higher speeds come at a cost. I think you can guess what the cost is.
I voided my warranty.
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Put your battery in the witness protection program. But seriously if in 2 hours ~50% is gone, I don't think its phone idle. Also something to consider is terrible reception eats battery. And 4g even though its not true 4g those higher speeds come at a cost. I think you can guess what the cost is.
I voided my warranty.
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Even if I heavy grind on the phone until its dead.. it will not have a whole lot of battery left, nor will idle consume so much of his battery. So he needs to try the basics of battery maintenance first.
Sorry guys I described that horribly.
I mean of OVERALL drain 50% is Phone Idle. Not 50% battery life.
tight686 said:
Sorry guys I described that horribly.
I mean of OVERALL drain 50% is Phone Idle. Not 50% battery life.
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well now that you describe it like that, use the search and read up on the many threads about phone idle. peeps can't seem to wrap their head around it. and read up on display time too.
Phone Idle should be the remainder of everything else draining your battery, basically the minimum power draw. If you add everything up you should end up with about 100%. I say "about" because android rounds the numbers up/down to whole numbers.
If your phone idle is at 50% you're doing bugger-all with your phone. So long as your actual battery life is normal then there's nothing wrong. If your battery life sucks, then possibly your battery is dead/dying or something like the minimum CPU frequency is set higher than normal causing a constantly higher power drain.
Well as long as he followed the steps. Phone idle will not take such a high % of battery usage on the battery manager. If he talked on the phone for an hour and did pandora for an hour. You would see idle would take a small % vs the talk time and pandora streaming combined/separate.
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On marshmallow and nougat with no user apps installed, ie 'factory reset' I have noticed I sometimes get excellent battery, eg I lose pretty much just 2% in an 8 hour period.
However sometimes it is 2% per hour.
It is not an app causing this, no wakelocks that I can see. It seems like maybe a certain sensor gets 'stuck on' and keeps draining the battery.
It happens when not in aeroplane mode as well but is less noticeable as the battery is drained by normal use then as well.
At first I thought it was maybe google play services body sensor permissions causing it but I removed permissions and the drain still happened.
Anyone else noticed this.
I'm a bit OCD about battery, on my moto g 1st gen I only lost 1% max overnight in aeroplane mode so 2% per hour cannot be right.
Scott
FWIW, I was at 100% before bed last night so left mine in aeroplane mode overnight.
Was at 96% nine hours later. I was very pleased with that.
Thanks for the reply. I returned my phone and got a new one. Old one drained 2% an hour. The new one drained 1% in 7 hours last night. So I think the old phone was faulty.
Hopefully the new one doesn't develop the same fault.
Scott
Looks like my new phone has the fault as well. Something causes the phone to use 2% per hour over and above normal use. Probably a sensor stuck on and using power.
I will return this phone as well and give up on Wileyfox.
Scott
Where can i buy an original Mido battery?
because my battery gives me 3h only sot
nagib_15 said:
Where can i buy an original Mido battery?
because my battery gives me 3h only sot
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Which ROM are you using?
DarthJabba9 said:
Which ROM are you using?
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miracle rom
somone says that it gives 10h SOT
nagib_15 said:
miracle rom
somone says that it gives 10h SOT
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It is pretty good - but very much depends on how you use your phone. Is your 3 hours SOT based on usage over 24 hours, or over several days? If it is over several days, that will have a significant effect on your SOT.
Before concluding that something is wrong with your battery, download PCMark from the play store, charge your phone to about 85%, and run the Work 2.0 battery life test (you will need to leave it running overnight - when nobody is likely to call you on your phone). It's tests should give you the equivalent of at least 10 hours SOT. If it is much lower than that, then try other battery tests:
1. Charge your phone to 100% before going to bed at night. Turn off the phone, and leave it turned off overnight. In the morning, turn on the phone, and see how much charge you have lost overnight when the phone was turned off. Write that down. This represents a base value of power loss. It should be zero, or, at least, much less than 0.5% power loss.
2. Charge your phone to 100% before going to bed at night. Enable airplane mode, and leave it in airplane mode overnight. In the morning, see how much charge you have lost. This should be very low (less than 1%)
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It is pretty good - but very much depends on how you use your phone. Is your 3 hours SOT based on usage over 24 hours, or over several days? If it is over several days, that will have a significant effect on your SOT.
Before concluding that something is wrong with your battery, download PCMark from the play store, charge your phone to about 85%, and run the Work 2.0 battery life test (you will need to leave it running overnight - when nobody is likely to call you on your phone). It's tests should give you the equivalent of at least 10 hours SOT. If it is much lower than that, then try other battery tests:
1. Charge your phone to 100% before going to bed at night. Turn off the phone, and leave it turned off overnight. In the morning, turn on the phone, and see how much charge you have lost overnight when the phone was turned off. Write that down. This represents a base value of power loss. It should be zero, or, at least, much less than 0.5% power loss.
2. Charge your phone to 100% before going to bed at night. Enable airplane mode, and leave it in airplane mode overnight. In the morning, see how much charge you have lost. This should be very low (less than 1%)
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i use it all the day
some times i charge it twice daily
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i use it all the day
some times i charge it twice daily
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What are you doing with it, typically?
DarthJabba9 said:
What are you doing with it, typically?
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i use social meadia and some offline games
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i use social meadia and some offline games
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Well, games can be battery killers. Try the tests that I suggested above. They will help you to decide whether anything is wrong with your battery.
I've had my g8 Play for a few months now and I've been relatively happy with it. The battery always lasted me longer than the full day, probably 30-36 hours of normal usage.
One day, a couple of weeks ago, the battery was down to 5% by early afternoon. I assumed that I had forgotten to charge it overnight as is my usual practice. Nope. It's now only getting 5+ hours on a charge.
I installed Accubattery and it reports that my battery capacity is still fine at 3941 of a rated 4000mAh rating. It also reports that I'm getting a full charge.
What has me worried is the battery drain of my apps. Chrome, for instance, is drawing 649.3 mA. That seems pretty high to me, but my top five apps are all quite similar.
Accubattery predicts that I will get 7h49m of normally use on a full charge.
I did a full factory reset but that did nothing.
Can anyone tell me what's going on?
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I've had my g8 Play for a few months now and I've been relatively happy with it. The battery always lasted me longer than the full day, probably 30-36 hours of normal usage.
One day, a couple of weeks ago, the battery was down to 5% by early afternoon. I assumed that I had forgotten to charge it overnight as is my usual practice. Nope. It's now only getting 5+ hours on a charge.
I installed Accubattery and it reports that my battery capacity is still fine at 3941 of a rated 4000mAh rating. It also reports that I'm getting a full charge.
What has me worried is the battery drain of my apps. Chrome, for instance, is drawing 649.3 mA. That seems pretty high to me, but my top five apps are all quite similar.
Accubattery predicts that I will get 7h49m of normally use on a full charge.
I did a full factory reset but that did nothing.
Can anyone tell me what's going on?
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There is a G8 play forum
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g8-play
Do you want this thread moved there?
Try LMSA'S flash rescue option
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/update-moto-lenovo-moto-smart-assistant-t3951714
Sometimes OTA updates don't quite install correct or something and reflashing the firmware will fix it.
Lmsa is pretty easy to use.
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Thanks Shadow. I'm currently traveling and only have my Linux laptop with me. I'll give this a shot next week once I'm home and have access to a Windows machine
Interestingly enough, the situation has spontaneously resolved. As of a few days ago, I'm back to normal. I unplugged my charger 16 hours ago at 80% charge and I'm now showing 1 day + 5 hours remaining. It must have been something that updated in the background that was causing my grief. Accubattery now reports that Chrome is drawing 321 mA.