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I am using the production version of Xperia S and found the in call volume extremely low, when compare with my old Samsung Galaxy Note. Is there any hack or shortcut that help before my boss complain about that.
Thanks.
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Same here. Not on earpiece, but while on speakerphone. I barely hear anything.
It is quite shocking most of the reviews say the volume was loud and clear. Hmm..
ps: XPS plays song quite loud IMHO, but not during on-call
Sony Hong Kong posted a reply in their facebook saying that the earpiece is positioned near video call camera (i.e. right side), but I don't experience any difference ... still so low in call volume than my old Samsung.
Need a hack or what ... the Engineering Mode trick that someone posted somewhere about Xperia X10 does not work ...
No incall issues at all. Nice and crisp sound.
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I also got my XS in Hong Kong and does not has any problem for the ear volume. Have you remove the protective screen plastic sheet? Most of the user complaint when they receive the machine and trial the use test the machine.
somesex said:
I am using the production version of Xperia S and found the in call volume extremely low, when compare with my old Samsung Galaxy Note. Is there any hack or shortcut that help before my boss complain about that.
Thanks.
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Actually great had yesterday a long distance call. Far better as my o2x
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The call volume is very acceptable. Arc/Arc S was slightly louder and X10 was much softer. X10 call voulme was actually too soft to even be useable in most public areas.
Actually just got off the phone from a call.
Unless your phone is defective or your hearing is not good I think the in call volume is great. It's crisp too which is a nice bonus.
I too have this problem, I can barely hear anything inside a shopping mall, which isnt the case for the iphone 4s or the galaxy s2, is there no way to crank the volume beyond the max?
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I also got my XS in Hong Kong and does not has any problem for the ear volume. Have you remove the protective screen plastic sheet? Most of the user complaint when they receive the machine and trial the use test the machine.
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there is 2 layer of protective applied on the screen with first layer have print but the 2nd layer did not block the earpiece, should i remove it too? thanks
Yeah, I have trouble understanding my call partner, too, for example in trains or on the road. Thats really annoying, I would hope that there is a hack or something like that.
Me too!
we should report this to SONY
It seems that it's not problem on every Xperia S, as I actually have to lower volume to about 75% to talk comfortable. Did you install latest firmware? Maybe it was a problem with earlier soft.
hep me too
The call volume is excellent for me. However its when i put it on speaker mode that it sucks really bad, this can be fixed throe software cause the speaker is excellent when playing up music but sucks when using for calls.
I have this problem too the call volume is definitely low compares to my previous phone Nexus S.
taxas said:
The call volume is excellent for me. However its when i put it on speaker mode that it sucks really bad, this can be fixed throe software cause the speaker is excellent when playing up music but sucks when using for calls.
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Exactly! When I use earpiece, the volume is quite good. But when I turn on the speaker, the volume is really bad.
Same problem here on my x10I wolfbreak Roms my speakers were very loud compared to this xs I mean the conversation are quite clear but on speaker phone it is terrible can never make out what the persons going on about.
Yep same here with .73
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Same Here :\
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It seems that it's not problem on every Xperia S, as I actually have to lower volume to about 75% to talk comfortable. Did you install latest firmware? Maybe it was a problem with earlier soft.
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Try it with loudspeaker! That's what the ppl are talking about.
Extremely disappointed with loudspeaker while calling/receiving calls.
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Good day expert,
I love Sony Xperia Ultra Z. But I found out that Xperia Z Ultra can't perform a good phone function especially the speaker. The sound produced from the speaker is really low and unclear especially during phone call. This doesn't help even I have put it to loudspeaker. I have adjusted the volume control to max. I barely listen clearly the others party conversation. I feel shame.
I even tried the setting of (Normal, Bright, ..., slow talk) but it doesn't help. I confirmed it is not my Z Ultra defect as I checked others Z Ultra at retail store. All have the same poor and low sound output from the speaker.
How to really enjoy such a great phone if the sound produced is not loud and clear?
The sound really not acceptable (blur and poor volume output).
Seeking for help from SONY and experts.
Here is how I've ranked the audio (headphones) performance:
1)Nokia Phones (N9/Lumia)
2) HTC One X
3) iPhone 4s
4) Xperia Z Ultra
in regards to speaker output, i believe because of its placement vs. HTC OneX, for me its an improvement
I hope there are mods to increase the stock speaker volume as well as beats audio algorithms for music because its lacking right now!
only dumb people can talk about poor sound from external dynamic on water proof devices. Sorry but I'm sick and tired of threads like this.
Sound through headphones is beautiful and very audiophiliac with ClearAudio+ (enable)
Try to change your build prop at system and see what happen. You can search for xda forum to see how to change your build prop for increase device volume.
But first you need to rooted device.
I tried, now better than earlier. And remember don't too loud
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I agree with you
the sound is very very very low
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You should have researched well before buying. Almost all reviews noted that the 2 weaknesses of the ultra are speaker volume and lack of flash. Most of us knew this and bought it, as this is truly a great device.
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ring_GT said:
You should have researched well before buying. Almost all reviews noted that the 2 weaknesses of the ultra are speaker volume and lack of flash. Most of us knew this and bought it, as this is truly a great device.
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I don't really know why so many people complain about it. It's pretty par for the course in terms of tiny "external" speakers. Fairly tinny, but loud enough to be too loud in a quiet room. Note that the volume drops by a large amount after submerging the device in water. You need to wait for the speaker grille to purge itself of liquid before the volume returns.
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Sound through headphones is beautiful and very audiophiliac with ClearAudio+ (enable)
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LOLZZZZ
disagree. you must not be an audiophile :highfive:
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Thanks!!
corrado85 said:
LOLZZZZ
disagree. you must not be an audiophile :highfive:
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corrado85 please tell me my friend any other "phone" with better listening time you experienced.
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only dumb people can talk about poor sound from external dynamic on water proof devices. Sorry but I'm sick and tired of threads like this.
Sound through headphones is beautiful and very audiophiliac with ClearAudio+ (enable)
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I agree with you 100%. I have no idea how anyone can complain about the audio quality.
The audio quality on my Ultra is great. The in-call volume is sufficient and the sound is perfectly good both on both sides.
I just don't care about the speakers too much since I use headphones. I wouldn't even think about the idea of using a phone as a "stereo" by playing music through its speakers.
The audio quality through headphones is great too. I certainly agree that it provides high quality even for "mobile audiophile use".
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I agree with you 100%. I have no idea how anyone can complain about the audio quality.
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I do hope the Bluetooth Headset (is it SBH52?) can keep up with the Good quality Audio... I don't want to plug in my headphones directly on the phone since the earphone jack's placement is awkward if you ask me.. It would be better if it was placed on the top edge and not on the side.
I use wired headphones, bluetooth headphones and headsets and stream audio bluetooth in my car. I don't really need or actually think that a phone's speakers are all that important so I am glad to have efforts focused elsewhere. I'd get a Jawbone Jambox or something similiar if I really needed good audio from speakers on the go.
I have a friend who has an HTC One and I agree they are the best speakers I have heard on a smartphone but I still think they are pretty crappy. I appreciate the speakers on my Nexus 10 but again I think it is a waste of time ever expecting good speakers on a small and slim device.
Errrr....
OP is talking mainly about earpiece volume. Maybe his choice of words is not brilliant but my god, people here need to read before jumping on him thinking he is complaining about loudspeaker.
From my Galaxy S4 Exynos, in your face.....
Funkym0nkey said:
Errrr....
OP is talking mainly about earpiece volume. Maybe his choice of words is not brilliant but my god, people here need to read before jumping on him thinking he is complaining about loudspeaker.
From my Galaxy S4 Exynos, in your face.....
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Well, I got that he was talking about the earpiece volume, but it also seemed he was saying that switching to the loud speaker didn't help either and I guess the thread evolved from there.
Anyway, a headset of some description should help in either case.
You're right though a couple of people did jump on him a bit harshly but it is pretty normal for people to get defensive about their devices.
kevincheong said:
Good day expert,
I love Sony Xperia Ultra Z. But I found out that Xperia Z Ultra can't perform a good phone function especially the speaker. The sound produced from the speaker is really low and unclear especially during phone call. This doesn't help even I have put it to loudspeaker. I have adjusted the volume control to max. I barely listen clearly the others party conversation. I feel shame.
I even tried the setting of (Normal, Bright, ..., slow talk) but it doesn't help. I confirmed it is not my Z Ultra defect as I checked others Z Ultra at retail store. All have the same poor and low sound output from the speaker.
How to really enjoy such a great phone if the sound produced is not loud and clear?
The sound really not acceptable (blur and poor volume output).
Seeking for help from SONY and experts.
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I dont mind the sound, but make sure your ear is over the speaker on top. Its a big phone if you go to the right or left it will sound muffled. Maybe you are already doing this but if not try it. Night and day for me.
Nio doubt quality is great but speaker sound is not sufficient, atleast you guys agree on this despite the fact it is waterproof or what ever!!!!!!!
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Only dumb people (or an average mature 6th grader) call other people dumb when they hear an opinion they don't like.
If the OP doesnt like the sound he doesn't like it. If you dont like a thread, here's a thought: stay the hell out of it.
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only dumb people can talk about poor sound from external dynamic on water proof devices. Sorry but I'm sick and tired of threads like this.
Sound through headphones is beautiful and very audiophiliac with ClearAudio+ (enable)
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rockky said:
Only dumb people (or an average mature 6th grader) call other people dumb when they hear an opinion they don't like.
If the OP doesnt like the sound he doesn't like it. If you dont like a thread, here's a thought: stay the hell out of it.
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Noobs need to search before open the same threads every 20 minutes.
Example kids like you with 0 reputation trying to be smart.
Having paid a lot of money for a high end device this Sony has some very annoying issues I would of thought Sony could have resolved before sale or after a quick update! Which I'm still waiting for 2 weeks later.....
Auto backlight does not adjust
Adaptive light and optimised backlight does not work. It does not dim or brighten with changing light conditions.
It's more than annoying having to adjust the brightness yourself.
If one or the other is selected or not selected and you restart your device it will get stuck in a loop and not turn back on.
The speakers both suck. Volume quality is terrible on calls and quality of music produced from speaker is even worse!
But the headset quality and volume is outstanding I give them that.
The camera sucks too...
Spending the sort of money and expecting high standards it knocks my confidence in Sony as a maker of phones. And angers me even more they have not fiXed these things yet with updates. Don't they care or don't they have a clue how to fix them?
My other issue is the the phantom/random clicking...
I can get by the other issues but this random clicking may eventually cause me to return it...
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My other issue is the the phantom/random clicking...
I can get by the other issues but this random clicking may eventually cause me to return it...
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Sony sucks goatballs if they not can fix ghost clicking sometime my phone has it own Life
sell your device and buy HTC One max.
Found a video of the random clicking I'm also experiencing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBD49ogR8c0
qazzi76 said:
My other issue is the the phantom/random clicking...
I can get by the other issues but this random clicking may eventually cause me to return it...
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CM10.2 is the solution to almost all of these problems... or wait for a sony update..
- sound quality. You can't expect a waterproof speak/mic to be as loud and receptive as other devices. There is a waterproof membrane covering these, so of course they wont be as good as non water proof devices.
- camera. But surely you knew 8mp camera wasn't going to be as good as a 13mp camera.. or even the Z1 21mp camera... I find the 8Mp camera adequate... of course would rather have a better camera, but not at the expense of a fatter device...
like @avetny said... If you wanted a different device then sell and move on
Speaker does not suck. It's very clear. Not that loud, but it's waterproof. How many other phone speakers can make that claim? And anyway, this is only my personal opinion, but you've purchased a high-end device--just bite the bullet and get a great quality headset to go with it. A good Bluetooth headset will sound better than any phone speakers anyway, as well as allow you to make hands-free calls, something that suddenly becomes very important with the Z Ultra. IMO, the phone's speaker is only for notification sounds, and maybe occasionally sharing a video or song with a friend.
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Speaker does not suck. It's very clear. Not that loud, but it's waterproof. How many other phone speakers can make that claim? And anyway, this is only my personal opinion, but you've purchased a high-end device--just bite the bullet and get a great quality headset to go with it. A good Bluetooth headset will sound better than any phone speakers anyway, as well as allow you to make hands-free calls, something that suddenly becomes very important with the Z Ultra. IMO, the phone's speaker is only for notification sounds, and maybe occasionally sharing a video or song with a friend.
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couldn't agree more
AntiLazarus said:
Speaker does not suck. It's very clear. Not that loud, but it's waterproof. How many other phone speakers can make that claim? And anyway, this is only my personal opinion, but you've purchased a high-end device--just bite the bullet and get a great quality headset to go with it. A good Bluetooth headset will sound better than any phone speakers anyway, as well as allow you to make hands-free calls, something that suddenly becomes very important with the Z Ultra. IMO, the phone's speaker is only for notification sounds, and maybe occasionally sharing a video or song with a friend.
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yea. i didnt expect the speaker to be any good except for small stuff or quick videos. i actually picked up the SBH20 for pretty cheap from a sony hook up while im waiting for the SBH52 to be released here in the USA. for the price, it works like charm.
This is really weird all you say, me I only have a problem with the adapt and optimized.
The camera is the best I had on a phone so far, just need to not use automatic mode and use my head. And since .532 system files update, noise on low luminosity and the jpeg artifact has been grandly improved. But I believe that all reviews about the phone told photo quality was poor in auto mode so I am surprise you can be disappointed by that.
Ghost clicking? Only got it with wet or dirty hands. But I don't remember ever used a phone with wet hands before this one, certainly because I could damaged them.
But I have the feeling since the beginning I see you on this forum, you don't even own a XZU and just made a compilation of problems some people posted on the forum.
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In future OP I'd suggest you read/watch some reviews of the products you intend to buy as you would then be a lot better educated on what to expect from your devices.
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This is really weird all you say, me I only have a problem with the adapt and optimized.
The camera is the best I had on a phone so far, just need to not use automatic mode and use my head. And since .532 system files update, noise on low luminosity and the jpeg artifact has been grandly improved. But I believe that all reviews about the phone told photo quality was poor in auto mode so I am surprise you can be disappointed by that.
Ghost clicking? Only got it with wet or dirty hands. But I don't remember ever used a phone with wet hands before this one, certainly because I could damaged them.
But I have the feeling since the beginning I see you on this forum, you don't even own a XZU and just made a compilation of problems some people posted on the forum.
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I recently bought an app called "Camera CV-5" on the Play store after a member here (forget who) recommended it, and I have to say, I'm quite impressed with the pictures it takes, even on full auto mode. Especially for a device with a "bad camera." Sony makes good sensors.
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I recently bought an app called "Camera CV-5" on the Play store after a member here (forget who) recommended it, and I have to say, I'm quite impressed with the pictures it takes, even on full auto mode. Especially for a device with a "bad camera." Sony makes good sensors.
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Yes the sensor is really good. Just a shame Sony mess up with the auto mode of the stock camera and the ISO management. Can get good result in manual (from 100 to 400 ISO cause at 800 and more the result is not good) and when in low light can use scene HDR backlight mode. Not really want to pay for a camera app.
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I recently bought an app called "Camera CV-5" on the Play store after a member here (forget who) recommended it, and I have to say, I'm quite impressed with the pictures it takes, even on full auto mode. Especially for a device with a "bad camera." Sony makes good sensors.
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Is camara CV-5 or FV-5?
And how do you configurated it?
The ghost clicking happens to me if I'm using the phone while it's connected to the PC via USB. It's not a problem specific to ZU 'cause it also happened on my Note II if connected to a PC. Sometimes, sweat and water on the screen are also the cause.
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Is camara CV-5 or FV-5?
And how do you configurated it?
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Whoops, you're right, it's FV-5. I don't know much about camera settings, so I basically just put it in auto mode, I just choose the output type as high-quality JPEG.
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Auto backlight does not adjust
Adaptive light and optimised backlight does not work. It does not dim or brighten with changing light conditions.
It's more than annoying having to adjust the brightness yourself.
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Sorry and never mind if it is irrelevant, but I also used to think that the auto adapt was not working.
But under usual circumstances, it is very hard to detect. At least for me, this was the case anyway.
Under settings > brightness I have the slider bar set to just a notch above dimmest, in order to increase battery life.
I found out 2 ways that it is indeed functioning.
I was under a counter at a bar the other day where there was very bright LED spotlight. When I walked away while browsing into the unlit area, I saw the screen dim. In over a month's use, this is the first time I noticed this active screen brightness adjustment (due to this extreme circumstance)
I happened to look in GSAM battery monitor and under screen, where all my power consumption was normally in ''DARK'' category, I found some usage under DIM and MEDIUM as well.
Thinking about it, in over a months use, not once did I find it difficult to see the screen because of the Dimness. But unlike my other previous phones, I never saw an exaggerated adjustment to lighting conditions. So it has been doing its job adequately, and in retrospect, effectively to make the screen lit 'just' bright enough....
I actually find the camera quality to be OK and am pretty impressed with the superior auto mode. I'm coming from using a HTC One X which has a pretty good camera too and I don't have much of an issue with the Z Ultra's camera. Sure it doesn't have a flash but flash generally makes your photos look **** anyway - I rarely used flash on my One X if I could avoid it.
my biggest issue now is the sucking balls camera
compared it to my same 8M iphone4s and galaxynote ,, i was aghast at how horrible it is that at first i even doubted it was a defective one,,,
anyone, just try to shoot a book page and compare it to anyother 8M phone,, it REALLY SUCKS
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my biggest issue now is the sucking balls camera
compared it to my same 8M iphone4s and galaxynote ,, i was aghast at how horrible it is that at first i even doubted it was a defective one,,,
anyone, just try to shoot a book page and compare it to anyother 8M phone,, it REALLY SUCKS
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with the stock sony camera app yep it sucks, but with another app the camera is pretty much as good as the iphone 4s I had back in the days
I have Xperia ZL and the call quality(In call voice of caller) is excellent but same is not so good in Xperia Z (Not sure about Z1 though) so Z2 holders can you specify if the in call volume is good enough.
i know waterproofing has effect in speakers as well as in call volume but i just wanted to make sure it doesnot end up like my Xperia Acro S which was worst phone in terms of in call volume..
Z2 owners please respond,
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I have Xperia ZL and the call quality(In call voice of caller) is excellent but same is not so good in Xperia Z (Not sure about Z1 though) so Z2 holders can you specify if the in call volume is good enough.
i know waterproofing has effect in speakers as well as in call volume but i just wanted to make sure it doesnot end up like my Xperia Acro S which was worst phone in terms of in call volume..
Z2 owners please respond,
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Volume i would say pretty standart, while quality is really good.
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feis said:
Volume i would say pretty standart, while quality is really good.
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Thanks for reply..
is it good enough for noisy environment like railway station or noisy roads..also i read people telling if they are having call using bluetooth one side of headset gets muted like only left or right channel works can you confirm that..
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is it good enough for noisy environment like railway station or noisy roads..also i read people telling if they are having call using bluetooth one side of headset gets muted like only left or right channel works can you confirm that..
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Its as good as any other phone as i said, havent really tested in such environment, but you shouldnt have any problems. Cant tell about bluetooth, but one impressive thing is noise canceling headphones included with phone, really amazing stuff.
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Its as good as any other phone as i said, havent really tested in such environment, but you shouldnt have any problems. Cant tell about bluetooth, but one impressive thing is noise canceling headphones included with phone, really amazing stuff.
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yeah i hope we indians get that noise cancelling stuff in the box...
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I have Xperia ZL and the call quality(In call voice of caller) is excellent but same is not so good in Xperia Z (Not sure about Z1 though) so Z2 holders can you specify if the in call volume is good enough.
i know waterproofing has effect in speakers as well as in call volume but i just wanted to make sure it doesnot end up like my Xperia Acro S which was worst phone in terms of in call volume..
Z2 owners please respond,
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Z2 in-call quality is really good.
Normally I have in-call volume set high but on the Z2 I had to turn it down to half as it was very loud, so loud it could be confused with speakerphone not only that but the clarity was spot on too, overall much better than my previous OneX.
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Z2 in-call quality is really good.
Normally I have in-call volume set high but on the Z2 I had to turn it down to half as it was very loud, so loud it could be confused with speakerphone not only that but the clarity was spot on too, overall much better than my previous OneX.
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Thanks..i was worrying if i get bad call quality...now i am egarly waiting for the device to launch in India in reasonable price...though
I'm debating to move to the Z2 and I would very much appreciate any feedback from Z2 owners who have experience with the Note 3.
I am looking at the sound quality of the noise reduction in the headphones and the camera, which are two of the primary draws for me.
How does the sound and camera and overall speed compare in real world use?
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I'm debating to move to the Z2 and I would very much appreciate any feedback from Z2 owners who have experience with the Note 3.
I am looking at the sound quality of the noise reduction in the headphones and the camera, which are two of the primary draws for me.
How does the sound and camera and overall speed compare in real world use?
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Former Note 3 user here! In a nutshell, the Z2 is better.
Read my full honest review here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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Former Note 3 user here! In a nutshell, the Z2 is better.
Read my full honest review here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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Thanks for the response.
Does the 20.7 MP superior auto hack reduce the quality of the shots over the standard 8MP size superior auto mode?
Those gaps you mentioned in the review have me worried. I would have thought Sony would have that worked out by now, after the Z1 had the same problems.
How can anyone trust the water resistance like this?
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Former Note 3 user here! In a nutshell, the Z2 is better.
Read my full honest review here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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I will be picking this phone up tommorow, have you noticed any serious over-heating or 4K camera recording issues? i.e phone random rebooting while recording video?
I was a former note 3 user and moved on to Z2.
A lot better software stability. More premium design and better handling regarding the smaller size compared to note 3. Unique amongst all samsung users. Waterproof mania and I've been using phones under water since xperia z. People informing they used it even with gaps and it's safe. Any pen stylus can be used and there is one made for sony (sony stylus es22). Camera is outstanding. 4k download is fun. Noise reduction is real. No need for opening flaps as magnetic charging does the job. Sound quality is really good inspite of the waterproof design. Only missing the IR blaster.
Overall u will never regret the switch!
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I was a former note 3 user and moved on to Z2.
A lot better software stability. More premium design and better handling regarding the smaller size compared to note 3. Unique amongst all samsung users. Waterproof mania and I've been using phones under water since xperia z. People informing they used it even with gaps and it's safe. Any pen stylus can be used and there is one made for sony (sony stylus es22). Camera is outstanding. 4k download is fun. Noise reduction is real. No need for opening flaps as magnetic charging does the job. Sound quality is really good inspite of the waterproof design. Only missing the IR blaster.
Overall u will never regret the switch!
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yea I have both devices at the moment I will play around with both to see what I like most. but I think I will take the sony z2 over the note 3. The screen on the z2 is a lot better then the note 3 the colours are much better. The note 3 is a good phone but the z2 wins on a few more things then the note. As for the gaps tho on the z2 it is true you do get them I had to go through 3 of them before I got one with out gaps. But im very happy with it. And it is still waterproof even with gaps. But when paying 900 for a phone I do not expect there to be gaps between the frame and screen. Some people will be fine with it and some will not. But I can honestly say out of all the other phones I have had they have never had gaps between the frame and screen
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TThose gaps you mentioned in the review have me worried. I would have thought Sony would have that worked out by now, after the Z1 had the same problems.
How can anyone trust the water resistance like this?
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A lot of people with gaps of different sizes (including me) have taken the bullet and tested the waterproofing of the phone and we have all concluded that no gap has ever compromised the waterproofing. I've yet to see a report of someone saying the gap compromises the waterproofing of the phone. This is probably due to the construction of the phone as the plastic injection molding goes deeper into the phone and then sandwhiched by the glass.
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I will be picking this phone up tommorow, have you noticed any serious over-heating or 4K camera recording issues? i.e phone random rebooting while recording video?
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I personally have experienced over-heating only when recording 4k video for longer than 7 minutes. I think for most, if not all, of the over-heating cases the camera app just shuts off. I don't think anybody's phone ever rebooted due to over-heating from recording 4k.
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I will be picking this phone up tommorow, have you noticed any serious over-heating or 4K camera recording issues? i.e phone random rebooting while recording video?
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I have not tried 4K recording, because i know i don't need it. But TBH, i never use my Video recorder really. Lol.
sevoflurane said:
I was a former note 3 user and moved on to Z2.
A lot better software stability. More premium design and better handling regarding the smaller size compared to note 3. Unique amongst all samsung users. Waterproof mania and I've been using phones under water since xperia z. People informing they used it even with gaps and it's safe. Any pen stylus can be used and there is one made for sony (sony stylus es22). Camera is outstanding. 4k download is fun. Noise reduction is real. No need for opening flaps as magnetic charging does the job. Sound quality is really good inspite of the waterproof design. Only missing the IR blaster.
Overall u will never regret the switch!
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Very well said. IR blaster would have been nice. But oh well!
donalgodon said:
Thanks for the response.
Does the 20.7 MP superior auto hack reduce the quality of the shots over the standard 8MP size superior auto mode?
Those gaps you mentioned in the review have me worried. I would have thought Sony would have that worked out by now, after the Z1 had the same problems.
How can anyone trust the water resistance like this?
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Haven't tested this mod excessively but i believe it would be noisy. Will tell u when i test. And AFAIK, water resistance is ok even with gaps.
donalgodon said:
I'm debating to move to the Z2 and I would very much appreciate any feedback from Z2 owners who have experience with the Note 3.
I am looking at the sound quality of the noise reduction in the headphones and the camera, which are two of the primary draws for me.
How does the sound and camera and overall speed compare in real world use?
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I am a former Note 3 user - Also reviews would differ depending on the Note 3 variant used.
I have used N9005 LTE and I wont say switch is great. Handset is having lots of issues as discussed by users worldwide. Software crashes which is a common problem and thats the reason Sony till date has real poor reviews for the same. Phone is surely bulky and heavy compared to Note 3. Battery life is pretty much equivalent so no dramas there. Note 3 never heats (N9005 only) even with an hour of game play - Z2 surely does with 5 min camera usage too. Sound Output of Note 3 is way louder compared to Z2. Camera Z2 has a real good one No doubts about that. Build Quality also is pretty superb.
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donalgodon said:
I'm debating to move to the Z2 and I would very much appreciate any feedback from Z2 owners who have experience with the Note 3.
I am looking at the sound quality of the noise reduction in the headphones and the camera, which are two of the primary draws for me.
How does the sound and camera and overall speed compare in real world use?
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I owned the Note 3. Bitterly disappointed with it despite its being a very able mobile. It just didn't work for me. In terms of camera, cant help not my area of expertise. Now sound reproduction is another matter.
In terms of portable sound reproduction Sony started the ball rolling with their Walkmans decades ago. The quality of sound reproduction on most Sony mobile devices is above average to top quality IF one uses dedicated head phones. Here we go..........Headphones or speakers can only reproduce what the amplifier amplifies so the source and amplification are vital. Sony is a leading manufacturer in this area in terms of mobile sourcing and amplification, they have many years of experience and have more or less pioneered portable sound. To this end what we have in the Xperia range is very good amplification and when used with a hi-fidelity headphone those phones are able to take full advantage of the excellent source.
The Xperia Z2 comes with the Sony MDR-NC31EM noise cancelling head phones I am listening to them as I type this and yes they are more accomplished than the stock headphones bundled in most mobiles, better by far BUT..........There are far better still. I am not keen on ear bud type head phones. I prefer an over the ear 'open back' headphone like the Sennheiser PX-100-11. They simply amaze every time I use them and have become a reference point in reviewing other headphones despite their meagre price of around 40.00€ :good:
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In terms of the ear bud type the Sennheiser CX-300-11 make the Sony ear buds sound amateur. Now if you can afford say 80.00€ the AKG K452 are designed for Android devices and are based on the award winning 450 and 451's They are also portable and come with their own carry case, they are closed back and not ear buds. The AKG can reproduce frequencies between 11-29500Hz, that's from very low base to very high treble! In comparison the Sony MDR's only manage 20-20000Hz meaning they cannot produce the full spectrum of sound frequencies the Z2 is capable off. I am generally not a fan of Sony headphones.
Please do accept that the type of sound you enjoy will not be the same as others. There are numerous brands of head phone and you are bound to find one that you enjoy. Main point is here the Samsung you mention on headphones produced a very decent sound BUT the Sony does produce a greater band width and more open stage to the music. As for the speakers or speaker on the phones themselves, neither are worth even listening to, having written that the Sony again leaves the Sammy dead in the water.
I hope I have been of some small help to you?
Best wishes, Ryland
Well I went the other way, in that I bought a Z2 and gave it up for a Note 3. I will echo what everyone else is saying, the Z2 makes a mockery of the Note's sound, especially with those bundles headphones. Nothing I do to the Note will bring the audio close to the Z2's, I'd be very interested to hear from a Note user that managed to make good on the Note's audio.
The Z2's screen is better but I wouldn't say to a degree that I wouldn't let it impact on the decision to pick it up. We're talking about a significantly smaller screen with that damn navigation bar in place of the buttons. The camera on the Z2 is where it really shines for me. Photos and videos are simply phenomenal. If this matters to you then it's a no-brainer seriously.
It really depends if you're like me and stuck in your ways. I use the Note for work and constantly using the S-Pen for drawing layouts and switching to calculator, I also like my physical buttons. It didn't take me long to switch back for those reasons but I really struggled with the decision to give the Z2 to my girlfriend due to the quality of the audio and video/photo capture. The Z2 is a solid handset it just depends what you want to use it for I guess.
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Well I went the other way, in that I bought a Z2 and gave it up for a Note 3. I will echo what everyone else is saying, the Z2 makes a mockery of the Note's sound, especially with those bundles headphones. Nothing I do to the Note will bring the audio close to the Z2's, I'd be very interested to hear from a Note user that managed to make good on the Note's audio.
The Z2's screen is better but I wouldn't say to a degree that I wouldn't let it impact on the decision to pick it up. We're talking about a significantly smaller screen with that damn navigation bar in place of the buttons. The camera on the Z2 is where it really shines for me. Photos and videos are simply phenomenal. If this matters to you then it's a no-brainer seriously.
It really depends if you're like me and stuck in your ways. I use the Note for work and constantly using the S-Pen for drawing layouts and switching to calculator, I also like my physical buttons. It didn't take me long to switch back for those reasons but I really struggled with the decision to give the Z2 to my girlfriend due to the quality of the audio and video/photo capture. The Z2 is a solid handset it just depends what you want to use it for I guess.
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Indeed. It depends on ones prioritise and what one does with the mobile.
I was disappointed with the Note 3. My own fault, I made a pre sale purchase and was the first customer in this country to own one. What horrified me about the Note 3 was the plastic leather back with plastic stitching then the plastic chrome sides. No way could I live with the feel of that mobile despite its many other qualities.
Music is important to me and the Samsung on this occasion was awful. The original cost was 1100€ for the Sammy and the Gear watch. With that sort of outlay I expected better materials and construction than the Sammy offered.
If you need the S-pen the Sammy Note is THE phone to own. In that respect its rather unique.
I think when we purchase something we are going to use and hold every day we need to feel pride of ownership and with those plastics made to look like other materials no way could I stomach it. Maybe if the Note 4 is made from decent high end materials I would take another look at the Samsung range BUT as music is important to me it sort of rules out the present Samsung range.
Its great to have all this choice though :highfive: .
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
I owned the Note 3. Bitterly disappointed with it despite its being a very able mobile. It just didn't work for me. In terms of camera, cant help not my area of expertise. Now sound reproduction is another matter.
In terms of portable sound reproduction Sony started the ball rolling with their Walkmans decades ago. The quality of sound reproduction on most Sony mobile devices is above average to top quality IF one uses dedicated head phones. Here we go..........Headphones or speakers can only reproduce what the amplifier amplifies so the source and amplification are vital. Sony is a leading manufacturer in this area in terms of mobile sourcing and amplification, they have many years of experience and have more or less pioneered portable sound. To this end what we have in the Xperia range is very good amplification and when used with a hi-fidelity headphone those phones are able to take full advantage of the excellent source.
The Xperia Z2 comes with the Sony MDR-NC31EM noise cancelling head phones I am listening to them as I type this and yes they are more accomplished than the stock headphones bundled in most mobiles, better by far BUT..........There are far better still. I am not keen on ear bud type head phones. I prefer an over the ear 'open back' headphone like the Sennheiser PX-100-11. They simply amaze every time I use them and have become a reference point in reviewing other headphones despite their meagre price of around 40.00€ :good:
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In terms of the ear bud type the Sennheiser CX-300-11 make the Sony ear buds sound amateur. Now if you can afford say 80.00€ the AKG K452 are designed for Android devices and are based on the award winning 450 and 451's They are also portable and come with their own carry case, they are closed back and not ear buds. The AKG can reproduce frequencies between 11-29500Hz, that's from very low base to very high treble! In comparison the Sony MDR's only manage 20-20000Hz meaning they cannot produce the full spectrum of sound frequencies the Z2 is capable off. I am generally not a fan of Sony headphones.
Please do accept that the type of sound you enjoy will not be the same as others. There are numerous brands of head phone and you are bound to find one that you enjoy. Main point is here the Samsung you mention on headphones produced a very decent sound BUT the Sony does produce a greater band width and more open stage to the music. As for the speakers or speaker on the phones themselves, neither are worth even listening to, having written that the Sony again leaves the Sammy dead in the water.
I hope I have been of some small help to you?
Best wishes, Ryland
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Very helpful indeed. My question is this: Sennheiser CX-300-11 does not allow the noise cancelling features built into the device to function, but how do they compare in terms of noise reduction/isolation on their own?
The others are out of my price range at the moment, but the Sennheiser CX-300-11 might get me by.
donalgodon said:
Very helpful indeed. My question is this: Sennheiser CX-300-11 does not allow the noise cancelling features built into the device to function, but how do they compare in terms of noise reduction/isolation on their own?
The others are out of my price range at the moment, but the Sennheiser CX-300-11 might get me by.
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Let me put is this way. When my dear to my heart wife starts to tell me off..............I just pop those in and its bliss.
They come with several sizes of rubber ear bud. When they are in the ear you cannot hear a word outside.
Noise cancelling is not always a good thing. This means the source of the music is not pure. The less distortion your music has the more natural the sound. Processing the sound, as in noise cancelation, is not something I would consider its much like the use of graphic equalisers they just made a mess of the original sound. Sony produce a very good source so I would not want it processed.
The Sennheiser is a very respectable head phone and through me many of my friends and family now own them. I fail to see how one could go wrong with an ear bud that price? I think you will be rather surprised. :highfive:
Let me know what you decide to do.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Let me put is this way. When my dear to my heart wife starts to tell me off..............I just pop those in and its bliss.
They come with several sizes of rubber ear bud. When they are in the ear you cannot hear a word outside.
Noise cancelling is not always a good thing. This means the source of the music is not pure. The less distortion your music has the more natural the sound. Processing the sound, as in noise cancelation, is not something I would consider its much like the use of graphic equalisers they just made a mess of the original sound. Sony produce a very good source so I would not want it processed.
The Sennheiser is a very respectable head phone and through me many of my friends and family now own them. I fail to see how one could go wrong with an ear bud that price? I think you will be rather surprised. :highfive:
Let me know what you decide to do.
Ryland
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I think I'll go for the Sennheiser CX-300-11 because it seems like a great option for me. I would prefer buds for portability. I wasn't aware of the model, but I do know and trust the brand.
How sensitive are they? I mean, can they be driven properly by the Note 3's sound hardware for the meantime while I decide what device (if any) to replace it with?
I'm torn between the LG G3, G Pro 2, or the OnePlus One, but the latter is not available without invite, and the former are rather expensive Korean imports at the moment.
I went from the Note 3 to the HTC One M8 (for a few days) to the Xperia Z2 and couldn't be happier. I feel it's a huge upgrade for me, notably not having to deal with TouchWiz. Sony's Android UI is far nicer in my opinion. Battery life seems to be better than my Note 3 as well.
I came from the Note 2, but have used my friends' Note 3's extensively. Phone is really nice, the build quality, responsiveness, battery life, and stability are all nice. I did have a problem with my GPS in that it couldn't find my location once but restarting the phone fixed it. However, I will point out that the Note 2 and 3 are better for two handed texting, and the Z2 is great for 1 handed swyping. The speaker phone, because of the water proofing, is quieter and not as clear on the note 2, but has comparable quality to the note 3 speaker (although note 3 is louder). Z2 does get points for front facing speakers though, but flipping the note 2 face down while on speaker gave both parties better results.
Using the Neutron music app, (disgusting UI, but the BEST in sound quality) I found that the note 2 has better sound quality. There is a slight background noise, but that is diminished with moderate volume. Through hi-fi headphones, the note 2 has a better lows, the bass hits harder, with no bleed into the mid or high range. The Z2 has a bit of a bright but overall balanced sound. If you are a basshead then the note 2 is more preferable/fun to listen to but the Z2 is cleaner.
As for the UI, Sony has done a great job with keeping everything simple and clean. It's fast, responsive, and I have had no problems with lagging or hang ups. However, Samsung gives you more customization and even though it feels bloated some times, it lets me do what I need quickly and easily. Like changing the vibration intensity, blocking calls with acceptations, changing brightness in the notification area w/o going to the second tab, tapping the brightness icon, and then changing it. Stock Sony is limited, like stock Android.
Notification light under the speaker is sweet, I just wish it could be a little brighter/customizable. Screen is smaller and easier to reach across, but is lightly mitigated by the bezel size and ergonomics. The blacks are REALLY good for an IPS screen, and I don't notice much of a difference from the true blacks on the AMOLED screen, the colors are accurate yet still vibrant, which is great. The one thing lacking on the Sony screen is the viewing angles, which are OK and the screen is kinda reflective, but I can still see if I max the brightness under the brightest day.