So I guess this is good news and bad news for T-Mobile users. The OnePlus 2 supports band 12. Awesome, right? Not quite. They did not get the T-Mobile VoLTE certification, so now those of us with T-Mobile face an issue. If you are in an area where band 12 is the strongest signal, you will likely not be able to receive/send calls or text because there is no VoLTE.
With that said - is there any way to "disable" a network band yourself in the software?
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So I guess this is good news and bad news for T-Mobile users. The OnePlus 2 supports band 12. Awesome, right? Not quite. They did not get the T-Mobile VoLTE certification, so now those of us with T-Mobile face an issue. If you are in an area where band 12 is the strongest signal, you will likely not be able to receive/send calls or text because there is no VoLTE.
With that said - is there any way to "disable" a network band yourself in the software?
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I may cancel my order since it hasn't shipped.
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The device will switch to H or H+ for voice calls even if LTE is the strongest. Its not really a setback, just an oddity.
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The device will switch to H or H+ for voice calls even if LTE is the strongest. Its not really a setback, just an oddity.
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No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
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I may cancel my order since it hasn't shipped.
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Unfortunately since mine shipped (should be here today, actually) I can't do that. I do already have a buyer lined up for it and my Moto X Pure should be here today as well. I REALLY wanted the OP2 though so I'm disappointed.
Is there still no news on whether the OPT will get T-Mobile VoLTE with a software update, apart from the vague "yeah maybes" that were thrown around by Oneplus a few months ago?
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No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
Unfortunately since mine shipped (should be here today, actually) I can't do that. I do already have a buyer lined up for it and my Moto X Pure should be here today as well. I REALLY wanted the OP2 though so I'm disappointed.
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I'm thinking about getting the Pure, but I may just hold off since there's problems with this device and TMO.
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I'm thinking about getting the Pure, but I may just hold off since there's problems with this device and TMO.
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Motorola is at least coming out with a VoLTE setting and bringing band 12 back. They've confirmed that multiple times on the forums. OnePlus hasn't addressed it at all since a Reddit AMA with a vague answer. The issue wouldn't be so bad if it was disabled - but since it's not disabled, there will be issues with T-Mobile.
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Motorola is at least coming out with a VoLTE setting and bringing band 12 back. They've confirmed that multiple times on the forums. OnePlus hasn't addressed it at all since a Reddit AMA with a vague answer. The issue wouldn't be so bad if it was disabled - but since it's not disabled, there will be issues with T-Mobile.
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Can't cancel mine now, it's processed for shipping.
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Synyster06Gates said:
No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
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Are you sure about this? I have been reading up on this issue (including your discussion on the OnePlus forum) and most indications are that the device will fall back unless there is no available connection other than band 12. As written here:
"A Motorola employee explained recently that band 12 was removed from the Moto E (2015) at T-Mobile’s request over concerns that it could show that it has an LTE signal, but if all that it has is band 12, it couldn’t actually complete a call since it has no VoLTE support. While T-Mobile hasn’t officially commented on this matter, T-Mo spoke with Android Police off the record and said that any device on its network with band 12 also needs to support VoLTE and E911. Without VoLTE, band 12 phones on T-Mo are unable to make a call if they don’t have any other T-Mo service to fall back to, and they won’t know to roam onto another carrier’s network. Removing band 12 altogether eliminates this issue."
Not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong just trying to get some clarity on this issue while I still have time to cancel my order if need be.
It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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Also, this:
Due to lack of VoLTE support you won't be able to place and receive calls including 911 calls in some buildings and some outdoor areas where 2G GSM and 3G HSPA+ (marketed by T-Mobile as "4G") signal is too weak or non-existent while LTE band 12 is available. You will still have data connection and you can receive and place non-emergency calls via Google Hangouts app (using Google Voice number). To place an emergency call you will have to either move outdoors where 2G or 3G signal is available or disable LTE to make your phone roam on another GSM network.
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Are you sure about this? I have been reading up on this issue (including your discussion on the OnePlus forum) and most indications are that the device will fall back unless there is no available connection other than band 12. As written here:
"A Motorola employee explained recently that band 12 was removed from the Moto E (2015) at T-Mobile’s request over concerns that it could show that it has an LTE signal, but if all that it has is band 12, it couldn’t actually complete a call since it has no VoLTE support. While T-Mobile hasn’t officially commented on this matter, T-Mo spoke with Android Police off the record and said that any device on its network with band 12 also needs to support VoLTE and E911. Without VoLTE, band 12 phones on T-Mo are unable to make a call if they don’t have any other T-Mo service to fall back to, and they won’t know to roam onto another carrier’s network. Removing band 12 altogether eliminates this issue."
Not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong just trying to get some clarity on this issue while I still have time to cancel my order if need be.
It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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That's pretty much how I am. Though my OP2 showed up and I ended up selling it. I went with the Moto X Pure to be sure. Disappointed, I REALLY wanted the OP2
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It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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I have a OnePlus 2, and T-Mobile, but I'm unsure of how to check if my area has band 12....I went to this site here...
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum
And it looks like I do? But I don't really understand the map. I am in Tampa, FL.
I just got the phone today, but so far it seems to be fully functional.
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I have a OnePlus 2, and T-Mobile, but I'm unsure of how to check if my area has band 12....I went to this site here...
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum
And it looks like I do? But I don't really understand the map. I am in Tampa, FL.
I just got the phone today, but so far it seems to be fully functional.
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Thanks for posting, you can install this app. I've read you can also enter *#*#3282#*#* into the dialer and then tap LTE Engineering, but I can't get that to work on my OPO.
Thanks again
Synyster06Gates said:
No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily..
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I can confirm that the Oneplus Two on T-mobile when on Band 12 LTE will drop to H or H+ when a call comes in if you have reception on those. I'm guessing it will also drop to Edge/GSM if a call comes in and that's the only reception you have for voice. I just did it at work right now where I'm getting Band 12 LTE. I called my cell from my work phone and the status bar dropped to H. I'm in the Los Angeles Metro area.
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I can confirm that the Oneplus Two on T-mobile when on Band 12 LTE will drop to H or H+ when a call comes in if you have reception on those. I'm guessing it will also drop to Edge/GSM if a call comes in and that's the only reception you have for voice. I just did it at work right now where I'm getting Band 12 LTE. I called my cell from my work phone and the status bar dropped to H. I'm in the Los Angeles Metro area.
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Also confirming. After downloading that LTE Discovery app, it said that I was on Band 12. I called myself from my home phone, the connection dropped from LTE to 3G and the call came in.
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Also confirming. After downloading that LTE Discovery app, it said that I was on Band 12. I called myself from my home phone, the connection dropped from LTE to 3G and the call came in.
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That's what I said was gonna happen. Reward please!! I take payments in cookies.
I can confirm as well. No problems with T-Mobile and OP2. Someone buy the man a cookie.
I have a USA Oneplus 2 Im using T-mobile and i haven't had a single issue with the phone and it works for me on LTE band
my Signal is great in California.
No problem here in Orlando, Florida.
So...this post from a similar thread in the OnePlus forums made a lot more sense to me than anything else I've read about this.
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Some are getting confused in this thread.
Band 12 VoLTE support is important IF you have only Band 12 LTE coverage. Then you won't get any calls or texts since Band 12 penetrates buildings and rural areas better than the other Tmo bands.
If you're in an area that your connected to Band 12 BUT there are other bands around then your phone will switch automatically. No worries, you'll get calls and texts.
So if the OP2 doesn't support Band 12 VoLTE and you're not near any other Tmo bands then you'll not be able to make emergency calls or recieve texts.
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TLDR: if there is another band available, you're fine, if not, you won't get texts or calls until there is.
No problem here with my oneplus 2 in chicago, IL. LTE works great
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I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds.
Would I be able to get data inside buildings?
Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
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I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds. Would I be able to get data inside buildings? Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
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Here are three links (sort of cheat sheets) with some information that will help:
http://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-tell-if-a-phone-will-work-on-t-mobile.706991/
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2014/09/what-phone-works-with-which-operator.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/us-wireless-carrier-bands-gsm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
You should also check out http://www.willmyphonework.net/, and if you end up with the FDD + TDD LTE version, that helps reconfirm things will work because of the 1900 MHz coverage.
You asked specifically about getting data inside buildings. My understanding is that lower frequencies work better for indoor coverage because they can more easily pass through walls, but they do not have the best range. In turn, if you want better outdoor distance and range, then higher frequencies work better because they are less attenuated by the atmosphere. Somebody else more knowledgeable can comment on this. But in the long run, it will probably be about your local coverage, too. I.e. if you are generally close to cell towers, the indoor/outdoor factor might not make much of a difference. And if you can somehow manage wifi calling with T-Mobile, that might also minimize any potential issue.
I think wifi calling must be baked into the phone to use it, but I may be wrong about this.
Any US T-Mobile users that can confirm this either way?
I am waiting on a Prime model myself, and plan to use it with an AT&T mvno in the US. AT&T supposedly has 3G on both 850 and 1900 MHz so 3G should work no problem.
thanks for the response. Accoring to the willmyphonework site it will work on Tmobile with 3g.. So im guessing no HSPA or HSPA+ right? these bands/network/freq confuse me.
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thanks for the response. Accoring to the willmyphonework site it will work on Tmobile with 3g.. So im guessing no HSPA or HSPA+ right? these bands/network/freq confuse me.
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This phone should work with T-Mobile 3G, and also what T-Mobile calls 4G, but which is actually HSPA+, and thus, by the book is on 3G. Take a look at the AndroidForums link I sent above. Supposing that information is true, it says the following:
3G
The technology for 3G is called UMTS. T-Mobile uses two frequencies for their UMTS network: 1900MHz and 1700/2100MHz. So if you check your phone's specifications and see that it has either 1900MHz or 1700/2100MHz listed as one of the UMTS frequencies, then it will support T-Mobile's 3G network.
4G - HSPA+
T-Mobile did a bit of marketing on this one. What T-Mobile calls 4G can more accurately be called HSPA+. This is not really a new technology, rather, it's an upgrade of the 3G technology UMTS. Therefore, if your phone supports the UMTS frequencies 1900MHz or 1700/2100MHz, then we just need to check to see if the phone supports HSPA (slower) or HSPA+ (faster). If it does, then it will be compatible with T-Mobile's 4G network.
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The RN2 supports UMTS at 1900 MHz and HSPA+ so yes, you should be able to get HSPA+ service. HSPA+ is pretty speedy, and for my own use case, it is perfectly fine. Some people will want/need/demand LTE speeds (even though HSPA+ gets very close, and sometimes passes it...). But at least for my own use case, I don't plan to be downloading huge files, or streaming HD video when I am away from wifi coverage. So for me, data up to 3G/HSPA+ is fine. But you'll have to figure out if it is good enough for you.
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This phone should work with T-Mobile 3G, and also what T-Mobile calls 4G, but which is actually HSPA+, and thus, by the book is on 3G. Take a look at the AndroidForums link I sent above. Supposing that information is true, it says the following:
The RN2 supports UMTS at 1900 MHz and HSPA+ so yes, you should be able to get HSPA+ service. HSPA+ is pretty speedy, and for my own use case, it is perfectly fine. Some people will want/need/demand LTE speeds (even though HSPA+ gets very close, and sometimes passes it...). But at least for my own use case, I don't plan to be downloading huge files, or streaming HD video when I am away from wifi coverage. So for me, data up to 3G/HSPA+ is fine. But you'll have to figure out if it is good enough for you.
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This is good news thank you! I mostly stream music while driving or browse the web anyways..
Now to just sell my Samsung s6 to buy a RN2
tlxxxsracer said:
This is good news thank you! I mostly stream music while driving or browse the web anyways.. Now to just sell my Samsung s6 to buy a RN2
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tlxxxsracer, I'm always nervous to suggest something I cannot back up with my own firsthand experience. According to the information I pointed out, it seems like the RN2 should be able to use T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service. But it would sure be nice to have an actual RN2 T-Mobile user out there confirm this. Are there any of you around?
Check out the Huawei ascend mate 7. It's a little more than the RN2, but is compatible with tmobile lte bands. I'm gonna purchase it here soon. Idk where u live, but I used tmobiles hspa, and got crappy service. Only like 5 down and .5 up. But switching to lte I'm getting like 45d and 8u. Huge difference lol.
HSPDA works on Tmobile
tlxxxsracer said:
I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds.
Would I be able to get data inside buildings?
Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
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I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
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I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
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Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
jpkml said:
I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
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Great, thanks for confirming this, jpkml!
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Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
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I got the Prime (32GB) version from merimobiles.com . The buying experience was good. If you plan on buying from them, signup for their emails, you get a $20 discount points. Create a new account and order via that account to get the status via their website. I forgot to do both these steps, and had to ping them everyday (5-6am EST ) to followup on my order. It will take a good 2-3 weeks to get the phone in your hands. I used Singapore post as my shipping option(extra $$), but they decided to send it via China Post epacket, which was pretty fast once EMS gets their hands on the package. It reached US within 3 days, but USPS/customs had it for a good 3 days after reaching our shore .
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I got the Prime (32GB) version from merimobiles.com . The buying experience was good. If you plan on buying from them, signup for their emails, you get a $20 discount points. Create a new account and order via that account to get the status via their website. I forgot to do both these steps, and had to ping them everyday (5-6am EST ) to followup on my order. It will take a good 2-3 weeks to get the phone in your hands. I used Singapore post as my shipping option(extra $$), but they decided to send it via China Post epacket, which was pretty fast once EMS gets their hands on the package. It reached US within 3 days, but USPS/customs had it for a good 3 days after reaching our shore .
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Good info, thanks and just found out it has 1yr warranty as well with option for $10 to buy 24month warranty.
Was there any import taxwith the singapore post option you selected?
I'll probably add shipping insurance too, just to be safe.
Did you check out with paypal? is there any protection from them in regards to shipping?
No import tax. ePackets is a sort of China Post & USPS offering. You can actually track the package using both their tracking system. I didn't get any insurance. The phone itself came nicely packaged in a bubble wrap. I did use paypal, but didn't check their shipping protection.
I also have T-Mobile and recently received my Redmi Note 2 16GB version from gearbest.com. Tried out a few different ROMs, both MIUI and AOSP. On MIUI, the network symbol shows an "H+" whenever I'm using data. On AOSP, only "3G" shows up top even though I have "4G Preferred" selected in network settings. Hope that helps!
Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
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Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
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For the moment, this will not work on LTE using AT&T or T-Mobile as the RN2 does not have the correct band/frequency coverage. If somebody figures out how to hack the baseband and add the right coverage, and there is not an actual physical/hardware limitation, that could possibly open up LTE coverage in the future.
HSPA+ is quite fast, in fact, T-Mobile refers to it as "4G" (but not LTE). Some folks will want/demand LTE coverage, but depending on your use case, HSPA+ may be perfectly fine.
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Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
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haywires said:
Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
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HSPA+ (H+) is similar to 3G, but is as fast as band B20 of LTE (the slowest LTE band)
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
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I also have T-Mobile and recently received my Redmi Note 2 16GB version from gearbest.com. Tried out a few different ROMs, both MIUI and AOSP. On MIUI, the network symbol shows an "H+" whenever I'm using data. On AOSP, only "3G" shows up top even though I have "4G Preferred" selected in network settings. Hope that helps!
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I think GearBest is one of those dealers who'd install custom ROM that gives a bunch of pop-ups on Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I think GearBest is one of those dealers who'd install custom ROM that gives a bunch of pop-ups on Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
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I don't know if it was a custom ROM but it did came with a bunch of bloat ware because I barely had any free space left so I just flashed TWRP and installed a fresh ROM over it.
I can confirm that the phone works on T-mobile HSPA+. I used it while visiting the US recently with a T-mobile MVNO (GoSmart).
I can also confirm that Gearbest ships the phone in an almost unusable state due to constant popups. Flashing new ROM is necessary.
Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
It'll be good if you can put this up on the Oneplus.net forum. The company needs to see it.
Seen a few complaints about this, even on twitter and facebook. Considering Reliance is still pretty much operating in stealth launch mode, with full commercial rollout still 4-6 weeks away, my guess is OPO will release it in time for that. This reminds me of how HTC m8 was crippled without 4g support, till Airtel rolled out its initial networks.
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Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
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Seen a few complaints about this, even on twitter and facebook. Considering Reliance is still pretty much operating in stealth launch mode, with full commercial rollout still 4-6 weeks away, my guess is OPO will release it in time for that. This reminds me of how HTC m8 was crippled without 4g support, till Airtel rolled out its initial networks.
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The launch is much further than that from my guess. But networks are well laid out. I get strong signal everywhere. I feel it has better signal than most current operators and seeing that it is beta stage it is great. They want to make it perfect before they launch since they are going to rely on just 4G and they won't be rolling back to 3G or 2G when there is no signal. Well 2G will be long gone in a few years time.
Phones like Galaxy S6, Iphone and others like Moto G 3rd gen, Galaxy A8 all have VoLTE support. I am able to make calls in 4G through that. Awesome clarity I must say when its 4G to 4G. VoLTE is the future.
Airtel has kind of given a bad name to 4G by rolling out in bits. Well I hope OnePlus listens to this. It's just a matter of an OTA which will include an option to enable Voice Over LTE. They have the option WIFI Calling which doesn't work. Wifi calling is also being implemented in Jio.
And OnePlus Two supports many bands. In India we also have 800 Mhz band which is being used by Jio. It's a shame that they don't have a full fledge 4G phone just because of their crippled software.
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The launch is much further than that from my guess. But networks are well laid out. I get strong signal everywhere. I feel it has better signal than most current operators and seeing that it is beta stage it is great. They want to make it perfect before they launch since they are going to rely on just 4G and they won't be rolling back to 3G or 2G when there is no signal. Well 2G will be long gone in a few years time.
Phones like Galaxy S6, Iphone and others like Moto G 3rd gen, Galaxy A8 all have VoLTE support. I am able to make calls in 4G through that. Awesome clarity I must say when its 4G to 4G. VoLTE is the future.
Airtel has kind of given a bad name to 4G by rolling out in bits. Well I hope OnePlus listens to this. It's just a matter of an OTA which will include an option to enable Voice Over LTE. They have the option WIFI Calling which doesn't work. Wifi calling is also being implemented in Jio.
And OnePlus Two supports many bands. In India we also have 800 Mhz band which is being used by Jio. It's a shame that they don't have a full fledge 4G phone just because of their crippled software.
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That's unfortunate. I may just check out reliance since I do have an iPhone 6+, which does support this.
I have some experience with volte having used it abroad and I agree. Only thing comparable is FaceTime audio.
jayesh said:
That's unfortunate. I may just check out reliance since I do have an iPhone 6+, which does support this.
I have some experience with volte having used it abroad and I agree. Only thing comparable is FaceTime audio.
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Yup its working flawless with iPhone 6s+, they had a full fledged testing to get it Apple certified as well.
But don't confuse it with "Reliance" this is a different company. Reliance Communications is a company in loss with sad networks and cheap rates!
Jio is a different company. They also have apps like Jiochat, and other beta apps like Jio Play.
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Yup its working flawless with iPhone 6s+, they had a full fledged testing to get it Apple certified as well.
But don't confuse it with "Reliance" this is a different company. Reliance Communications is a company in loss with sad networks and cheap rates!
Jio is a different company. They also have apps like Jiochat, and other beta apps like Jio Play.
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Bro, soon it will be their, in the ota updates of MM 3.0.2+ for Op2
its confirms that oneplus2 has support for VoLTE.
link here : Reddit
BY- OnePlus AMAA - Pre-OnePlus 2 Launch Edition
anup34 said:
Bro, soon it will be their, in the ota updates of MM 3.0.2+ for Op2
its confirms that oneplus2 has support for VoLTE.
link here : Reddit
BY- OnePlus AMAA - Pre-OnePlus 2 Launch Edition
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This has nothing to do with volte of Jio. Better info is available here
http://phoneradar.com/reliance-jio-4g-volte-support-oneplus-one-oneplus-x-oneplus-2-coming-soon/
It says soon. Oneplus 3 already supports it out of box, so it's not a big deal to imagine that OP2 will get it soon enough.
It should be out before the official launch of Jio. I have heard the Jio and OnePlus are working together for VoLTE fix. Maybe they would also come up with three month unlimited data and voice option too.
current OOS 3.0.2 support VoLTE ?
Same question, is this already VoLTE supported? And if not then what do i miss out?
I'm so irritated that OP2 doesn't support voLTE. Darn the flagship killer tag they put. ( REGRETS )
Does the OP3 support VoLTE? has oneplus even confirmed that the OP2 can handle VoLTE
izzikiorage said:
Does the OP3 support VoLTE? has oneplus even confirmed that the OP2 can handle VoLTE
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The phones hardware supports VoLTE it's just the software that limits the phone's capabilities
They're saying they will push an update with VoLTE support
I use jio with oneplus2 as well. The only way I can call is by using JioJoin app, as you said, but is it just me or even you cannot use the calling function if WiFi is switched on? In my case I can call or can get calls only if I have switched on data from jio and switched off the WiFi in my phone.
Is that how it is supposed to work for now, before official VoLTE support?
Thanks.
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Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
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misteeque said:
I use jio with oneplus2 as well. The only way I can call is by using JioJoin app, as you said, but is it just me or even you cannot use the calling function if WiFi is switched on? In my case I can call or can get calls only if I have switched on data from jio and switched off the WiFi in my phone.
Is that how it is supposed to work for now, before official VoLTE support?
Thanks.
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That's the only way it works right now. Calls and SMS over Jio works only on data. Even with data off or on Wifi, you wont receive or be able to make calls or send SMS. It's not an ideal solution, but its the only workaround till OnePlus rolls out VoLTE (if ever).
VoLTE is basically carrier provisioning, it doesn't require any special HW, and OnePlus 2 is capable on the HW front. But even then, I really doubt OnePlus will actually roll out an update for that.
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It should be out before the official launch of Jio. I have heard the Jio and OnePlus are working together for VoLTE fix. Maybe they would also come up with three month unlimited data and voice option too.
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I'm currently using jio on my opt with jiojoin app... Sadly there is no voLTE
Sent from my ONE A2003
Do any of the other ROMs for the OP2 offer VoLTE?
OnePlus are the biggest fraudsters. I have got 3 oneplus 2 phones bought in december last year and Im a reliance employee working in the same office as the Jio people and trust me OnePlus is rolling out an update since ages. I have tried contacting OnePlus at ever level email forums even mailed the owners and India General Manager but no 1 not a single person cared to reply of even acknowledge it. Just a matter of a simple OTA and we are done but the just want us to but their flagship phone the OnePlus 3. I will explain why.
VOLTE enabling need the Mobile network operator to "certify" the device from the company. OnePlus 3 supports VOLTE which means it was certified by Jio officials and only then VOLTE was enabled. Now if OnePlus could certify 1 phone why not certify the Oneplus 2 as well at the same time and roll out an official OTA in a month afterall its not a big deal to include such a small feature in 1 month. But they dont want to.
Their motto should be "Just buy our new phone" and not "Never Settle"
I believe this phone is capable of using LTE in the US. It has all the right frequencies so I would believe the hardware should be there. I've tried several different APN settings and called customer service to confirm my IMEI with AT&T customer service but I cannot get LTE speeds. Anyone else in the u.s. experiencing the same problems?
barely works in Europe, from the product page i bought it from on Aliexpress they said the 4g wouldn't work in the States .
here majority of the time it drops to 3g and when it does the internet doesn't work at all.
lost count how many times I've had to search again for my network just to refresh the signal.
the antenna in this phone was poorly placed. putting sim in slot 1/2 doesn't matter.
I've gone back to my nexus 5 with zero problems on 4g.
thats really disheartening. I knew there would be a catch to this phone somewhere. And it would appear that the phone does not support 4G LTE bands in the US. .
3.5G umtcs however it does, which is close to 4G speeds. But I do not know how many towers in the US run those frequencies, I will post my findings if I can get HSPA+ or above on a regular basis.
I have noticed my signal fluctuate a lot, Sad that the most basic feature is the most troublesome, this phone comes so close. I wonder if this is something development can resolve or if its just a poor radio.
It will but with network B bands. I think in July.
Check their blog
Really? A coming update in July? I will look on their blog
I live in the UK, but just holidayed in the US this summer...My 9000 wouldn't work for calls, although I read they're bringing out a US version soon. Used it for satnav in 3 states though with no problems.
Hi! Any one uses or used Moto Z on T-Mobile and can confirm VoLTE, Band 12 and maybe WiFi calling?
I can confirm that Band 12 is supported as that's all I get where I live. It appears to have VoLTE as there's an option to enable "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" which has a descriptor of "Use LTE services to improve voice and other communications (recommended)." Also, I believe one of the requirements from T-Mobile for unlocked devices to use Band 12 is VoLTE capability in order to access E911 services. There's no wifi-calling on the unlocked model.
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I can confirm that Band 12 is supported as that's all I get where I live. It appears to have VoLTE as there's an option to enable "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" which has a descriptor of "Use LTE services to improve voice and other communications (recommended)." Also, I believe one of the requirements from T-Mobile for unlocked devices to use Band 12 is VoLTE capability in order to access E911 services. There's no wifi-calling on the unlocked model.
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Thanks for the info! Some of my other phones although did have VoLTE in the settings as you described above, but that feature never worked.
1) So Band 12 is there
2) No WiFi Calling
3) As for VoLTE, could you check if it is really working? Disconnect from wifi, make sure LTE indicator is showing and try to make a call and see if your LTE indicator is still showing or it has changed to a lower indicator 3g or 4g.
Charkatak said:
Thanks for the info!
1) So Band 12 is there
2) No WiFi Calling
3) As for VoLTE, could you check if it is really working? Disconnect from wifi, make sure LTE indicator is showing and try to make a call and see if your LTE indicator is still showing or it has changed to a lower indicator 3g or 4g.
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I can confirm that VoLTE works. Stays on LTE when I'm making calls.
Mouahmong said:
I can confirm that VoLTE works. Stays on LTE when I'm making calls.
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Now I can buy the phone Thanks again!
VoLTE definitely works. I can hear it when I call people who have T-Mobile because it uses "HD-Voice". It's a shame about the Wifi calling, but you won't find it on any phone that T-Mobile doesn't sell directly because they need to have custom builds of software in order to function. I think it should be a lot easier to enable with just a Wifi APN or something, but maybe that is coming in the future. Also the Wifi calling was honestly buggy as hell on my S7E, it would echo, mute one of the callers, not transfer to LTE when I left range, and video call would freeze.
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VoLTE definitely works. I can hear it when I call people who have T-Mobile because it uses "HD-Voice". It's a shame about the Wifi calling, but you won't find it on any phone that T-Mobile doesn't sell directly because they need to have custom builds of software in order to function. I think it should be a lot easier to enable with just a Wifi APN or something, but maybe that is coming in the future. Also the Wifi calling was honestly buggy as hell on my S7E, it would echo, mute one of the callers, not transfer to LTE when I left range, and video call would freeze.
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This is simply not true. There are plenty of unlocked devices not sold by T-Mobile that have WiFi Calling...
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This is simply not true. There are plenty of unlocked devices not sold by T-Mobile that have WiFi Calling...
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Oh yea? Name one that works on T-Mobile.
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Oh yea? Name one that works on T-Mobile.
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You won't make me look stupid by telling me to name one because I can name more than one.
LeEco Le Pro 3, LeEco Le S3, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, and plenty more...
Next time you try to be a smartass, make sure you know what you're talking about.
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You won't make me look stupid by telling me to name one because I can name more than one.
LeEco Le Pro 3, LeEco Le S3, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, and plenty more...
Next time you try to be a smartass, make sure you know what you're talking about.
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I just got owned.
Actually what happened was I tricked you into doing research that I didn't want to do in order to help the OP. Thank you lol
seh6183 said:
I just got owned.
Actually what happened was I tricked you into doing research that I didn't want to do in order to help the OP. Thank you lol
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You're a sorry excuse for an XDA member. Let's not forget that this is supposed to be a community.
To the OP, not everyone here on XDA is an insincere lazy individual who speaks without knowledge. Just be aware some like this guy are...
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You're a sorry excuse for an XDA member. Let's not forget that this is supposed to be a community.
To the OP, not everyone here on XDA is an insincere lazy individual who speaks without knowledge. Just be aware some like this guy are...
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Don't be so salty man. You did a great service to the OP and XDA community. Not only that you saved me just under an hour of research. You should feel good about all this instead of being so upset. Have a great night lol
Hello
since i have unlocked the bootloader.... i cannot use VOLTE calling but i can still access the LTE services (Jio SIM)
any help for enabling VOLTE will be much appreciated
I've seen a few posts saying you can cross flash so you can move your v60 from t-mobile to att. However none of them are very clear.
I am going to have to switch from t-mobile to att as t-mobile shut down the sprint network in an area I need to be with some regularity and now has near zero coverage. Their wifi calling doesn't work well either as it registers very slowly and doesn't stay registered.
I've waited over a year for t-mobile to deliver promised coverage replacements.
It's becoming more and more a problem as I need to be in the area more often. Would appreciate any details anyone can offer. I don't want to give up my v60 yet or have to buy one.
You will it informative. But please be advised that there is no firmware available for AT&T V60. So it is not possible unless your phone is factory unlocked by carrier.
You can't unless you don't mind it being a data-only device (and I can't guarantee even that will work). AT&T has a VERY select list (I believe this is by IMEI so cross-flashing will not help) of phones they allow to use VoLTE on their network. Other carriers' phones are not among them. You MIGHT be able to beg/harass customer service to whitelist your IMEI. I think I've read about that happening, but I might be thinking of Verizon. I wouldn't count on it though. AT&T has a vested interest in making you buy a phone you can't use anywhere else. They're not interested in BYOP mercenaries who want to try out their service for a month then bounce back to TMO or Verizon.
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You can't unless you don't mind it being a data-only device (and I can't guarantee even that will work). AT&T has a VERY select list (I believe this is by IMEI so cross-flashing will not help) of phones they allow to use VoLTE on their network. Other carriers' phones are not among them. You MIGHT be able to beg/harass customer service to whitelist your IMEI. I think I've read about that happening, but I might be thinking of Verizon. I wouldn't count on it though. AT&T has a vested interest in making you buy a phone you can't use anywhere else. They're not interested in BYOP mercenaries who want to try out their service for a month then bounce back to TMO or Verizon.
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Sure,you can crossflash the T-Mobile version with AT&T firmware regardless of the IMEI and it will work.I'm on A12 AT&T with a USC V60 and have no issues at all.It will be required to have the AT&T firmware on it for the IMS to configure properly.I did this back when AT&T shut their 3g down to work around it.
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I've seen a few posts saying you can cross flash so you can move your v60 from t-mobile to att. However none of them are very clear.
I am going to have to switch from t-mobile to att as t-mobile shut down the sprint network in an area I need to be with some regularity and now has near zero coverage. Their wifi calling doesn't work well either as it registers very slowly and doesn't stay registered.
I've waited over a year for t-mobile to deliver promised coverage replacements.
It's becoming more and more a problem as I need to be in the area more often. Would appreciate any details anyone can offer. I don't want to give up my v60 yet or have to buy one.
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The key thing,does AT&T work in that area?AT&T and T-Mobile are currently struggling trying to get 5g fully working in all areas and so far it's been a nightmare.I'm in Nashville,TN. and it's horrible in most areas.Even down to the 4g towers are degraded and data speeds are back to 3g speeds as we speak.It's not only T-Mobile at the moment.
Where did you get the AT&T firmware? And the process to cross flash?
Royaltiger said:
Where did you get the AT&T firmware? And the process to cross flash?
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This is 20q A11.I used QCFire and unchecked sid_a and sid_b.Works great!
LMV600AM Restore/Ugrade Guide
This restore process is intended for the AT&T V60 (lmv600am) model and will WIPE your data so back it up if you want to keep it! This process will restore the lmv600am to original factory state for the AT&T v60 v20q build (a11). I’ve dumped all...
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Surgemanxx said:
The key thing,does AT&T work in that area?AT&T and T-Mobile are currently struggling trying to get 5g fully working in all areas and so far it's been a nightmare.I'm in Nashville,TN. and it's horrible in most areas.Even down to the 4g towers are degraded and data speeds are back to 3g speeds as we speak.It's not only T-Mobile at the moment.
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Yes att works. No its not 5g in either case. Too rural. T-mobile for example replaced more rhan half a dozen towers for one town in the area with two. Two. Then wondered why people had no coverage.
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Yes att works. No its not 5g in either case. Too rural. T-mobile for example replaced more rhan half a dozen towers for one town in the area with two. Two. Then wondered why people had no coverage.
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I have been on AT&T for almost a month about how bad the service is around my home address.We have 1 tower in about a 10 mile radius that's trying to serve at least 10,000 subscribers every day and it's failing hard.I'm doing good to get 4 mbps down and .5 up.Yes,that's a dot in front of the 5..lol..I told them point blank,why shut down 3g when you can't even handle the load with 4g alone?My response was, "we're working on 2 towers that are planned to be upgraded to 5g by the end of the year."Those 2 towers haven't worked in 8 years I know of..lol...I remember when they activated 4g and it wasn't this bad.The worst part in the US we're down to 3 carriers period.T-Mobile,AT&T,and Verizon.The rest are all MVNO's so those don't account for anything..lol..
Surgemanxx said:
I have been on AT&T for almost a month about how bad the service is around my home address.We have 1 tower in about a 10 mile radius that's trying to serve at least 10,000 subscribers every day and it's failing hard.I'm doing good to get 4 mbps down and .5 up.Yes,that's a dot in front of the 5..lol..I told them point blank,why shut down 3g when you can't even handle the load with 4g alone?My response was, "we're working on 2 towers that are planned to be upgraded to 5g by the end of the year."Those 2 towers haven't worked in 8 years I know of..lol...I remember when they activated 4g and it wasn't this bad.The worst part in the US we're down to 3 carriers period.T-Mobile,AT&T,and Verizon.The rest are all MVNO's so those don't account for anything..lol..
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Tried a signal booster? I used to run a 3 watt (max legal) and it made service possible. Also If you have wifi/internet you may be able to request a microcel from ATT for free
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Tried a signal booster? I used to run a 3 watt (max legal) and it made service possible. Also If you have wifi/internet you may be able to request a microcel from ATT for free
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I'm working on a booster as we speak.It's become horrible the last couple of months,and all this 3g shut down crap.I have even down to started switching modem files on my LG devices in hopes it may help some.Time will tell..lol..