Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
It'll be good if you can put this up on the Oneplus.net forum. The company needs to see it.
Seen a few complaints about this, even on twitter and facebook. Considering Reliance is still pretty much operating in stealth launch mode, with full commercial rollout still 4-6 weeks away, my guess is OPO will release it in time for that. This reminds me of how HTC m8 was crippled without 4g support, till Airtel rolled out its initial networks.
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Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
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Seen a few complaints about this, even on twitter and facebook. Considering Reliance is still pretty much operating in stealth launch mode, with full commercial rollout still 4-6 weeks away, my guess is OPO will release it in time for that. This reminds me of how HTC m8 was crippled without 4g support, till Airtel rolled out its initial networks.
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The launch is much further than that from my guess. But networks are well laid out. I get strong signal everywhere. I feel it has better signal than most current operators and seeing that it is beta stage it is great. They want to make it perfect before they launch since they are going to rely on just 4G and they won't be rolling back to 3G or 2G when there is no signal. Well 2G will be long gone in a few years time.
Phones like Galaxy S6, Iphone and others like Moto G 3rd gen, Galaxy A8 all have VoLTE support. I am able to make calls in 4G through that. Awesome clarity I must say when its 4G to 4G. VoLTE is the future.
Airtel has kind of given a bad name to 4G by rolling out in bits. Well I hope OnePlus listens to this. It's just a matter of an OTA which will include an option to enable Voice Over LTE. They have the option WIFI Calling which doesn't work. Wifi calling is also being implemented in Jio.
And OnePlus Two supports many bands. In India we also have 800 Mhz band which is being used by Jio. It's a shame that they don't have a full fledge 4G phone just because of their crippled software.
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The launch is much further than that from my guess. But networks are well laid out. I get strong signal everywhere. I feel it has better signal than most current operators and seeing that it is beta stage it is great. They want to make it perfect before they launch since they are going to rely on just 4G and they won't be rolling back to 3G or 2G when there is no signal. Well 2G will be long gone in a few years time.
Phones like Galaxy S6, Iphone and others like Moto G 3rd gen, Galaxy A8 all have VoLTE support. I am able to make calls in 4G through that. Awesome clarity I must say when its 4G to 4G. VoLTE is the future.
Airtel has kind of given a bad name to 4G by rolling out in bits. Well I hope OnePlus listens to this. It's just a matter of an OTA which will include an option to enable Voice Over LTE. They have the option WIFI Calling which doesn't work. Wifi calling is also being implemented in Jio.
And OnePlus Two supports many bands. In India we also have 800 Mhz band which is being used by Jio. It's a shame that they don't have a full fledge 4G phone just because of their crippled software.
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That's unfortunate. I may just check out reliance since I do have an iPhone 6+, which does support this.
I have some experience with volte having used it abroad and I agree. Only thing comparable is FaceTime audio.
jayesh said:
That's unfortunate. I may just check out reliance since I do have an iPhone 6+, which does support this.
I have some experience with volte having used it abroad and I agree. Only thing comparable is FaceTime audio.
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Yup its working flawless with iPhone 6s+, they had a full fledged testing to get it Apple certified as well.
But don't confuse it with "Reliance" this is a different company. Reliance Communications is a company in loss with sad networks and cheap rates!
Jio is a different company. They also have apps like Jiochat, and other beta apps like Jio Play.
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Yup its working flawless with iPhone 6s+, they had a full fledged testing to get it Apple certified as well.
But don't confuse it with "Reliance" this is a different company. Reliance Communications is a company in loss with sad networks and cheap rates!
Jio is a different company. They also have apps like Jiochat, and other beta apps like Jio Play.
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Bro, soon it will be their, in the ota updates of MM 3.0.2+ for Op2
its confirms that oneplus2 has support for VoLTE.
link here : Reddit
BY- OnePlus AMAA - Pre-OnePlus 2 Launch Edition
anup34 said:
Bro, soon it will be their, in the ota updates of MM 3.0.2+ for Op2
its confirms that oneplus2 has support for VoLTE.
link here : Reddit
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This has nothing to do with volte of Jio. Better info is available here
http://phoneradar.com/reliance-jio-4g-volte-support-oneplus-one-oneplus-x-oneplus-2-coming-soon/
It says soon. Oneplus 3 already supports it out of box, so it's not a big deal to imagine that OP2 will get it soon enough.
It should be out before the official launch of Jio. I have heard the Jio and OnePlus are working together for VoLTE fix. Maybe they would also come up with three month unlimited data and voice option too.
current OOS 3.0.2 support VoLTE ?
Same question, is this already VoLTE supported? And if not then what do i miss out?
I'm so irritated that OP2 doesn't support voLTE. Darn the flagship killer tag they put. ( REGRETS )
Does the OP3 support VoLTE? has oneplus even confirmed that the OP2 can handle VoLTE
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Does the OP3 support VoLTE? has oneplus even confirmed that the OP2 can handle VoLTE
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The phones hardware supports VoLTE it's just the software that limits the phone's capabilities
They're saying they will push an update with VoLTE support
I use jio with oneplus2 as well. The only way I can call is by using JioJoin app, as you said, but is it just me or even you cannot use the calling function if WiFi is switched on? In my case I can call or can get calls only if I have switched on data from jio and switched off the WiFi in my phone.
Is that how it is supposed to work for now, before official VoLTE support?
Thanks.
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Jio 4G has been testing VoLTE in India and its full fledged. Its been more than an year actually. Sadly OnePlus 2 has not yet got VoLTE support inspite of lots of people asking for it. Most phones support it. Samsung supports VoLTE out of box. For example Galaxy A8 works flawlessly by just inserting the Jio sim. No settings needed. OnePlus is not bothered since they dont have VoLTE in China and its not a priority for them.
Jio supports VoLTE and Wifi calling.
With OnePlus 2 i feel pretty useless as I am able to use only data with 4G.
When somebody advertises the phone as 4G on what bases do they do it? I know its a relatively new technology but its just a matter of a small OTA update. And there has been lots of requests and complaints regarding it.
Jio has an application called Jio Join where in you can use VoLTE functions. So with that application calling and sms works. But you dont get the HD voice quality that native VoLTE offers and the application is kind of heavy.
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I use jio with oneplus2 as well. The only way I can call is by using JioJoin app, as you said, but is it just me or even you cannot use the calling function if WiFi is switched on? In my case I can call or can get calls only if I have switched on data from jio and switched off the WiFi in my phone.
Is that how it is supposed to work for now, before official VoLTE support?
Thanks.
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That's the only way it works right now. Calls and SMS over Jio works only on data. Even with data off or on Wifi, you wont receive or be able to make calls or send SMS. It's not an ideal solution, but its the only workaround till OnePlus rolls out VoLTE (if ever).
VoLTE is basically carrier provisioning, it doesn't require any special HW, and OnePlus 2 is capable on the HW front. But even then, I really doubt OnePlus will actually roll out an update for that.
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It should be out before the official launch of Jio. I have heard the Jio and OnePlus are working together for VoLTE fix. Maybe they would also come up with three month unlimited data and voice option too.
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I'm currently using jio on my opt with jiojoin app... Sadly there is no voLTE
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Do any of the other ROMs for the OP2 offer VoLTE?
OnePlus are the biggest fraudsters. I have got 3 oneplus 2 phones bought in december last year and Im a reliance employee working in the same office as the Jio people and trust me OnePlus is rolling out an update since ages. I have tried contacting OnePlus at ever level email forums even mailed the owners and India General Manager but no 1 not a single person cared to reply of even acknowledge it. Just a matter of a simple OTA and we are done but the just want us to but their flagship phone the OnePlus 3. I will explain why.
VOLTE enabling need the Mobile network operator to "certify" the device from the company. OnePlus 3 supports VOLTE which means it was certified by Jio officials and only then VOLTE was enabled. Now if OnePlus could certify 1 phone why not certify the Oneplus 2 as well at the same time and roll out an official OTA in a month afterall its not a big deal to include such a small feature in 1 month. But they dont want to.
Their motto should be "Just buy our new phone" and not "Never Settle"
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..not on the note 3, but on all spark enabled phones (Galaxy S5, Note 4, etc). I upgraded to the S5 to find out that while on mobile data you can only talk or surf, not both!
I'm putting this in the Note 3 because I took back the S5 and got the Note 3 (the best phone) that does both.
Hopefully others that need this feature might choose the Note 3 as well and we can get some more user activity in this thread.
Thanks and as I've been using rooted phones for 4 years now (EVO and S3) I look forward to interacting with everyone..
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..not on the note 3, but on all spark enabled phones (Galaxy S5, Note 4, etc). I upgraded to the S5 to find out that while on mobile data you can only talk or surf, not both!
I'm putting this in the Note 3 because I took back the S5 and got the Note 3 (the best phone) that does both.
Hopefully others that need this feature might choose the Note 3 as well and we can get some more user activity in this thread.
Thanks and as I've been using rooted phones for 4 years now (EVO and S3) I look forward to interacting with everyone..
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I think once they implement VoLTE then we'll have talk and surf on Spark capable phones. I could be wrong.
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Lets hope I'm out all day and really need to be able to do both.
I was just disappointed that they would engineer their new phones to do less than their previous ones.
Other carriers new phones still do both.
indyjames said:
Lets hope I'm out all day and really need to be able to do both.
I was just disappointed that they would engineer their new phones to do less than their previous ones.
Other carriers new phones still do both.
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They did not intentionally engineer the phones to disable this. Samsung builds the phones, not Sprint. Sprint's towers are currently incapable of this feature on any Tri-band phone utilizing Spark. It requires a future planned upgrade to Sprint towers to enable this feature again. AND that would also depend on IF the phone is VoLTE capable. The older EVDO ability is no longer possible with the new Tri-Band phones and Spark.
KennyG123 said:
They did not intentionally engineer the phones to disable this. Samsung builds the phones, not Sprint. Sprint's towers are currently incapable of this feature on any Tri-band phone utilizing Spark. It requires a future planned upgrade to Sprint towers to enable this feature again. AND that would also depend on IF the phone is VoLTE capable. The older EVDO ability is no longer possible with the new Tri-Band phones and Spark.
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So once VoLTE is turned on ,will current Spark phones be able to do simultaneous voice and data?
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So once VoLTE is turned on ,will current Spark phones be able to do simultaneous voice and data?
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Only if the phone is capable. I have seen conflicting information about which phones are capable and which are not. Here is more info on Sprint and VoLTE. I am hoping it is any of the phones that are HD call capable.
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Only if the phone is capable. I have seen conflicting information about which phones are capable and which are not. Here is more info on Sprint and VoLTE. I am hoping it is any of the phones that are HD call capable.
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Thanks for the article.
Old and conflicting information in it.
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Thanks for the article.
Old and conflicting information in it.
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Exactly. I am trying to find out if my M8 is VoLTE capable on the Sprint model but best I can find is HTC saying it should be with firmware update when available. Not a Yes or no. But a definite no on LTE-A. By the time it rolls out in my area it will probably be time for a new phone anyway.
KennyG123 said:
Exactly. I am trying to find out if my M8 is VoLTE capable on the Sprint model but best I can find is HTC saying it should be with firmware update when available. Not a Yes or no. But a definite no on LTE-A. By the time it rolls out in my area it will probably be time for a new phone anyway.
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Yea, hopefully by next October we will have concrete clarity .
I think the Note 3 has dual antennae & all Spark enable phones has single. But regardless you can use Hangouts dialer to surf and talk at the same time, Voip..... its how I get around the issue..
jauger said:
I think the Note 3 has dual antennae & all Spark enable phones has single. But regardless you can use Hangouts dialer to surf and talk at the same time, Voip..... its how I get around the issue..
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Too much for practical use.
Also when you use hotspot and get a call it cuts out.
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So I guess this is good news and bad news for T-Mobile users. The OnePlus 2 supports band 12. Awesome, right? Not quite. They did not get the T-Mobile VoLTE certification, so now those of us with T-Mobile face an issue. If you are in an area where band 12 is the strongest signal, you will likely not be able to receive/send calls or text because there is no VoLTE.
With that said - is there any way to "disable" a network band yourself in the software?
Synyster06Gates said:
So I guess this is good news and bad news for T-Mobile users. The OnePlus 2 supports band 12. Awesome, right? Not quite. They did not get the T-Mobile VoLTE certification, so now those of us with T-Mobile face an issue. If you are in an area where band 12 is the strongest signal, you will likely not be able to receive/send calls or text because there is no VoLTE.
With that said - is there any way to "disable" a network band yourself in the software?
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I may cancel my order since it hasn't shipped.
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The device will switch to H or H+ for voice calls even if LTE is the strongest. Its not really a setback, just an oddity.
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The device will switch to H or H+ for voice calls even if LTE is the strongest. Its not really a setback, just an oddity.
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No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
alhadee12 said:
I may cancel my order since it hasn't shipped.
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Unfortunately since mine shipped (should be here today, actually) I can't do that. I do already have a buyer lined up for it and my Moto X Pure should be here today as well. I REALLY wanted the OP2 though so I'm disappointed.
Is there still no news on whether the OPT will get T-Mobile VoLTE with a software update, apart from the vague "yeah maybes" that were thrown around by Oneplus a few months ago?
Synyster06Gates said:
No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
Unfortunately since mine shipped (should be here today, actually) I can't do that. I do already have a buyer lined up for it and my Moto X Pure should be here today as well. I REALLY wanted the OP2 though so I'm disappointed.
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I'm thinking about getting the Pure, but I may just hold off since there's problems with this device and TMO.
alhadee12 said:
I'm thinking about getting the Pure, but I may just hold off since there's problems with this device and TMO.
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Motorola is at least coming out with a VoLTE setting and bringing band 12 back. They've confirmed that multiple times on the forums. OnePlus hasn't addressed it at all since a Reddit AMA with a vague answer. The issue wouldn't be so bad if it was disabled - but since it's not disabled, there will be issues with T-Mobile.
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Motorola is at least coming out with a VoLTE setting and bringing band 12 back. They've confirmed that multiple times on the forums. OnePlus hasn't addressed it at all since a Reddit AMA with a vague answer. The issue wouldn't be so bad if it was disabled - but since it's not disabled, there will be issues with T-Mobile.
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Can't cancel mine now, it's processed for shipping.
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Synyster06Gates said:
No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily.
"This issue that came up with Moto E/G, was that phones with Band 12 support, but not VoLTE certification for that band. It made the phone look like it had service, but wasn't able to re-route the band to receive the call. Therefore, no calls/emergency calls were able to be made. For this reason, T-Mobile started requiring the VoLTE certification or the removal of the Band 12 support. "
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Are you sure about this? I have been reading up on this issue (including your discussion on the OnePlus forum) and most indications are that the device will fall back unless there is no available connection other than band 12. As written here:
"A Motorola employee explained recently that band 12 was removed from the Moto E (2015) at T-Mobile’s request over concerns that it could show that it has an LTE signal, but if all that it has is band 12, it couldn’t actually complete a call since it has no VoLTE support. While T-Mobile hasn’t officially commented on this matter, T-Mo spoke with Android Police off the record and said that any device on its network with band 12 also needs to support VoLTE and E911. Without VoLTE, band 12 phones on T-Mo are unable to make a call if they don’t have any other T-Mo service to fall back to, and they won’t know to roam onto another carrier’s network. Removing band 12 altogether eliminates this issue."
Not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong just trying to get some clarity on this issue while I still have time to cancel my order if need be.
It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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Also, this:
Due to lack of VoLTE support you won't be able to place and receive calls including 911 calls in some buildings and some outdoor areas where 2G GSM and 3G HSPA+ (marketed by T-Mobile as "4G") signal is too weak or non-existent while LTE band 12 is available. You will still have data connection and you can receive and place non-emergency calls via Google Hangouts app (using Google Voice number). To place an emergency call you will have to either move outdoors where 2G or 3G signal is available or disable LTE to make your phone roam on another GSM network.
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Are you sure about this? I have been reading up on this issue (including your discussion on the OnePlus forum) and most indications are that the device will fall back unless there is no available connection other than band 12. As written here:
"A Motorola employee explained recently that band 12 was removed from the Moto E (2015) at T-Mobile’s request over concerns that it could show that it has an LTE signal, but if all that it has is band 12, it couldn’t actually complete a call since it has no VoLTE support. While T-Mobile hasn’t officially commented on this matter, T-Mo spoke with Android Police off the record and said that any device on its network with band 12 also needs to support VoLTE and E911. Without VoLTE, band 12 phones on T-Mo are unable to make a call if they don’t have any other T-Mo service to fall back to, and they won’t know to roam onto another carrier’s network. Removing band 12 altogether eliminates this issue."
Not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong just trying to get some clarity on this issue while I still have time to cancel my order if need be.
It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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That's pretty much how I am. Though my OP2 showed up and I ended up selling it. I went with the Moto X Pure to be sure. Disappointed, I REALLY wanted the OP2
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It would be nice if someone with a OP2 on T-Mobile in an area with band 12 could comment.
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I have a OnePlus 2, and T-Mobile, but I'm unsure of how to check if my area has band 12....I went to this site here...
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum
And it looks like I do? But I don't really understand the map. I am in Tampa, FL.
I just got the phone today, but so far it seems to be fully functional.
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I have a OnePlus 2, and T-Mobile, but I'm unsure of how to check if my area has band 12....I went to this site here...
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum
And it looks like I do? But I don't really understand the map. I am in Tampa, FL.
I just got the phone today, but so far it seems to be fully functional.
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Thanks for posting, you can install this app. I've read you can also enter *#*#3282#*#* into the dialer and then tap LTE Engineering, but I can't get that to work on my OPO.
Thanks again
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No - it won't. According to multiple posters on the OnePlus forum, because the phone senses band 12 connectivity, it will not try and fall back. That's why T-Mobile asked the companies who did not meet their band 12 certification to disable the band - at least temporarily..
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I can confirm that the Oneplus Two on T-mobile when on Band 12 LTE will drop to H or H+ when a call comes in if you have reception on those. I'm guessing it will also drop to Edge/GSM if a call comes in and that's the only reception you have for voice. I just did it at work right now where I'm getting Band 12 LTE. I called my cell from my work phone and the status bar dropped to H. I'm in the Los Angeles Metro area.
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I can confirm that the Oneplus Two on T-mobile when on Band 12 LTE will drop to H or H+ when a call comes in if you have reception on those. I'm guessing it will also drop to Edge/GSM if a call comes in and that's the only reception you have for voice. I just did it at work right now where I'm getting Band 12 LTE. I called my cell from my work phone and the status bar dropped to H. I'm in the Los Angeles Metro area.
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Also confirming. After downloading that LTE Discovery app, it said that I was on Band 12. I called myself from my home phone, the connection dropped from LTE to 3G and the call came in.
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Also confirming. After downloading that LTE Discovery app, it said that I was on Band 12. I called myself from my home phone, the connection dropped from LTE to 3G and the call came in.
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That's what I said was gonna happen. Reward please!! I take payments in cookies.
I can confirm as well. No problems with T-Mobile and OP2. Someone buy the man a cookie.
I have a USA Oneplus 2 Im using T-mobile and i haven't had a single issue with the phone and it works for me on LTE band
my Signal is great in California.
No problem here in Orlando, Florida.
So...this post from a similar thread in the OnePlus forums made a lot more sense to me than anything else I've read about this.
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Some are getting confused in this thread.
Band 12 VoLTE support is important IF you have only Band 12 LTE coverage. Then you won't get any calls or texts since Band 12 penetrates buildings and rural areas better than the other Tmo bands.
If you're in an area that your connected to Band 12 BUT there are other bands around then your phone will switch automatically. No worries, you'll get calls and texts.
So if the OP2 doesn't support Band 12 VoLTE and you're not near any other Tmo bands then you'll not be able to make emergency calls or recieve texts.
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TLDR: if there is another band available, you're fine, if not, you won't get texts or calls until there is.
No problem here with my oneplus 2 in chicago, IL. LTE works great
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Hi! Any one uses or used Moto Z on T-Mobile and can confirm VoLTE, Band 12 and maybe WiFi calling?
I can confirm that Band 12 is supported as that's all I get where I live. It appears to have VoLTE as there's an option to enable "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" which has a descriptor of "Use LTE services to improve voice and other communications (recommended)." Also, I believe one of the requirements from T-Mobile for unlocked devices to use Band 12 is VoLTE capability in order to access E911 services. There's no wifi-calling on the unlocked model.
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I can confirm that Band 12 is supported as that's all I get where I live. It appears to have VoLTE as there's an option to enable "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" which has a descriptor of "Use LTE services to improve voice and other communications (recommended)." Also, I believe one of the requirements from T-Mobile for unlocked devices to use Band 12 is VoLTE capability in order to access E911 services. There's no wifi-calling on the unlocked model.
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Thanks for the info! Some of my other phones although did have VoLTE in the settings as you described above, but that feature never worked.
1) So Band 12 is there
2) No WiFi Calling
3) As for VoLTE, could you check if it is really working? Disconnect from wifi, make sure LTE indicator is showing and try to make a call and see if your LTE indicator is still showing or it has changed to a lower indicator 3g or 4g.
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Thanks for the info!
1) So Band 12 is there
2) No WiFi Calling
3) As for VoLTE, could you check if it is really working? Disconnect from wifi, make sure LTE indicator is showing and try to make a call and see if your LTE indicator is still showing or it has changed to a lower indicator 3g or 4g.
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I can confirm that VoLTE works. Stays on LTE when I'm making calls.
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I can confirm that VoLTE works. Stays on LTE when I'm making calls.
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Now I can buy the phone Thanks again!
VoLTE definitely works. I can hear it when I call people who have T-Mobile because it uses "HD-Voice". It's a shame about the Wifi calling, but you won't find it on any phone that T-Mobile doesn't sell directly because they need to have custom builds of software in order to function. I think it should be a lot easier to enable with just a Wifi APN or something, but maybe that is coming in the future. Also the Wifi calling was honestly buggy as hell on my S7E, it would echo, mute one of the callers, not transfer to LTE when I left range, and video call would freeze.
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VoLTE definitely works. I can hear it when I call people who have T-Mobile because it uses "HD-Voice". It's a shame about the Wifi calling, but you won't find it on any phone that T-Mobile doesn't sell directly because they need to have custom builds of software in order to function. I think it should be a lot easier to enable with just a Wifi APN or something, but maybe that is coming in the future. Also the Wifi calling was honestly buggy as hell on my S7E, it would echo, mute one of the callers, not transfer to LTE when I left range, and video call would freeze.
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This is simply not true. There are plenty of unlocked devices not sold by T-Mobile that have WiFi Calling...
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This is simply not true. There are plenty of unlocked devices not sold by T-Mobile that have WiFi Calling...
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Oh yea? Name one that works on T-Mobile.
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Oh yea? Name one that works on T-Mobile.
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You won't make me look stupid by telling me to name one because I can name more than one.
LeEco Le Pro 3, LeEco Le S3, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, and plenty more...
Next time you try to be a smartass, make sure you know what you're talking about.
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You won't make me look stupid by telling me to name one because I can name more than one.
LeEco Le Pro 3, LeEco Le S3, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, and plenty more...
Next time you try to be a smartass, make sure you know what you're talking about.
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I just got owned.
Actually what happened was I tricked you into doing research that I didn't want to do in order to help the OP. Thank you lol
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I just got owned.
Actually what happened was I tricked you into doing research that I didn't want to do in order to help the OP. Thank you lol
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You're a sorry excuse for an XDA member. Let's not forget that this is supposed to be a community.
To the OP, not everyone here on XDA is an insincere lazy individual who speaks without knowledge. Just be aware some like this guy are...
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You're a sorry excuse for an XDA member. Let's not forget that this is supposed to be a community.
To the OP, not everyone here on XDA is an insincere lazy individual who speaks without knowledge. Just be aware some like this guy are...
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Don't be so salty man. You did a great service to the OP and XDA community. Not only that you saved me just under an hour of research. You should feel good about all this instead of being so upset. Have a great night lol
Hello
since i have unlocked the bootloader.... i cannot use VOLTE calling but i can still access the LTE services (Jio SIM)
any help for enabling VOLTE will be much appreciated
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Honor 8 Pro's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
honor needs to do more with local telcos to enable features like 4g+ and VoLTE. Where I live now, I can't enjoy these yet though my telco does offer it to other phones like Mate9 and even P9.
Lte signal is good and even performance is excellent but volte calls dialled from this phone to other volte number doesn't work.
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4g, LTE Network is good on sim 1 but the reception on sim 2 fluctuates too much even in the centre of the city where you expect maximum network connectivity.
Speeds on 4g are terrible, literally. Youtube struggles to stream video at 360 on 4g with good connectivity. If the connectivity is low, stop even thinking to load a webpage.
Other thing is if you switch the default mobile data to 2nd sim, it will switch 4g to 2nd sim making your sim 1 obscure if it is a 4g only network.
Also there is no way you can lock your network to 4g/3g/2g only. It floats between the 3 techs.
And last the Jio VoLTE calling issue where you the call disconnects immediately.
The phone doesn't support ViLTE.
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4g, LTE Network is good on sim 1 but the reception on sim 2 fluctuates too much even in the centre of the city where you expect maximum network connectivity.
Speeds on 4g are terrible, literally. Youtube struggles to stream video at 360 on 4g with good connectivity. If the connectivity is low, stop even thinking to load a webpage.
Other thing is if you switch the default mobile data to 2nd sim, it will switch 4g to 2nd sim making your sim 1 obscure if it is a 4g only network.
Also there is no way you can lock your network to 4g/3g/2g only. It floats between the 3 techs.
And last the Jio VoLTE calling issue where you the call disconnects immediately.
The phone doesn't support ViLTE.
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It does support volte. Calls from others to jio works. It's just the calls from jio to another jio doesn't work.
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Bro am talking about ViLTE (Video over LTE)
I know VoLTE works fine. Only Jio to Jio problem!.
aKp1 said:
Bro am talking about ViLTE (Video over LTE)
I know VoLTE works fine. Only Jio to Jio problem!.
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Sorry.
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aKp1 said:
Bro am talking about ViLTE (Video over LTE)
I know VoLTE works fine. Only Jio to Jio problem!.
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Is VILTE is working on jio ?
venugopalu007 said:
Is VILTE is working on jio ?
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Yes on my sister's Nubia Z11 Mini S, it works totally fine!
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Yes on my sister's Nubia Z11 Mini S, it works totally fine!
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But sadly not working on Honor products
Not working On my H8
sadly, how telco implements things like VoLTE, 4G+ (CA), etc... it's not as simple as just meeting band requirements.
as such, in Malaysia, one cannot get VoLTE and CA on any of the local telcos. hopefully, honor/ Huawei can work with the local telcos. after all, phones like P10, Mate 9 all have VoLTE working with the local telcos.
but that aside, speed is decent. i guess this depends on the telcos... whether their network is saturated or not, etc...
mydragoon said:
sadly, how telco implements things like VoLTE, 4G+ (CA), etc... it's not as simple as just meeting band requirements.
as such, in Malaysia, one cannot get VoLTE and CA on any of the local telcos. hopefully, honor/ Huawei can work with the local telcos. after all, phones like P10, Mate 9 all have VoLTE working with the local telcos.
but that aside, speed is decent. i guess this depends on the telcos... whether their network is saturated or not, etc...
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Yup, not as easy as we users think.
BTW it also supports carrier aggregation but this has to be supported both by device and the network.
Fortunately, in India. It's supported by both.
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K.khiladi said:
Yup, not as easy as we users think.
BTW it also supports carrier aggregation but this has to be supported both by device and the network.
Fortunately, in India. It's supported by both.
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you're lucky... honor India seems to be very strong and active, unlike honor Malaysia where they just launch the phone and then just leave it as it is after that. rather than work with telco to enable ALL the capabilities of the phone (like VoLTE and CA), they are just focusing on marketing it as a gaming device -- partnered to sponsor Mobile Legends Championship in Malaysia.
they actually mentioned on a FB post that honor 8 Pro does not support VoLTE. quoting them:
Honor 8 Pro does not support VoLTE. However, we will take your concern as suggestion and highlight this matter to our relevant team for their attention.
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Honor 6x has already received the update. 8 Pro is to due to get it in a weeks time.
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Honor 6x has already received the update. 8 Pro is to due to get it in a weeks time.
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May be become a week ago the update is available in FF, have to wait ,also it is not approved
I contacted Honor support for mobile data switch problem and no option to select the PREFERRED NETWORK TYPE on sim2.
This is what is the reply.
Thank you for contacting Huawei support.
This e-mail is in reference to concern Network issue in your device Honor 8 Pro. We regret for the inconvenience caused to you.
In response to your concern, we would like to inform you that Honor 8 Pro device's both SIM slot support 4G Network and you may use any slot to use 4G Network.
However, the other SIM slot should be on 2G Network only.
Further, as you are using Jio Network in first SIM slot then please make sure the second SIM slot on which you are using Airtel, should be on 2G Network only.
For your convenience, our support staff is available 09:00 AM to 09:00 PM, 7 days a week. You can call us at 1800-209-6555 (Toll free) for immediate support. You can also share your query, concern or feedback through our SMS service at 9731197311.
We will be more than happy to assist you.
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Second reply! Now I dunno what they think of us as customers but this was their reply to my query when I made clear to them what my question was!
Thank you for contacting Honor support.
This email is in reference to concern regarding network issue in Honor 8 Pro. We value the importance of information requested by you and we are happy to assist you.
In response to your query we would like to inform you that Jio sim only works with 4G network it will not work with 2G/3G network and at a time 4G network will work in one sim then another sim network will convert into 2G network.
Further, we are forwarding your precious feedback to the concerned department and we will try to work on it in our future update.
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And now exactly this is the thing that I am trying to explain them but this is what they are replying!
That the second network converts to 2g but then you cannot just stop mobile data of sim 1 and switch on mobile data of sim 2 because that will change the 4g network to sim 2.
Quite dumb!
amulbaby said:
Honor 6x has already received the update. 8 Pro is to due to get it in a weeks time.
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Update is live.
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Second reply! Now I dunno what they think of us as customers but this was their reply to my query when I made clear to them what my question was!
And now exactly this is the thing that I am trying to explain them but this is what they are replying!
That the second network converts to 2g but then you cannot just stop mobile data of sim 1 and switch on mobile data of sim 2 because that will change the 4g network to sim 2.
Quite dumb!
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Instead of mail, try live chat.
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@K.khiladi bro, I first had a live chat with a support guy and they gave me an email to forward the query to.
Then I also sent the same email to the one you gave me
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@K.khiladi bro, I first had a live chat with a support guy and they gave me an email to forward the query to.
Then I also sent the same email to the one you gave me
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Only option is to now call them. [emoji846]
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hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
Not related to the post (getting T-Mobile service) on any of the Asian firmwares at the moment.
I flashed the Euro, US firmwares and no signal at all. The radio power in hidden menu shows as off.
Does anyone know if crossflashing with this model also flashes the radio modem?
Seems to have worked naturally for Xperia 1 II and Xperia 1 III.
Not sure why this doesn't work now aside from intentionally restricting the phone to the intended region model.
Mine is XQ-CT72 global version on US T-Mobil.
I'm getting 800+, but US version should be better because of better band selection.
Mine goes that fast only certain places.
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hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
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I own the USA variant of the phone and I have absolutely no issues with 5G data nor wi-fi. The only issues I am experiencing is the fact that voice over Wi-Fi has not been provisioned. Coincidentally my phone also tells me within engineering mode that video over Wi-Fi is also not implemented. Sony wants to point the finger at T-Mobile and T-Mobile wants to point the finger at Sony.
Other than that I love this phone.
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You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Rats. I've been looking to upgrade from my Note 10+ on T-Mobile, and the Xperia 1 IV looked promising, but VoWiFi being nerfed is a non-starter for my needs. Curse the manufacturers for moving away from expandable storage!
T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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It is Still a good attempt from TMO to try to help, It is really not TMO fault here as nothing they can do. Sony is at fault blocking TMO network code in their VoWiFi software.
Sony has decided to block this service from the second largest US carrier, wondering why Sony sales not picking up in the US
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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Since WCDMA and GSM are sunset, if you want to call someone or receive calls with your phone, you need VoLTE or VoNR. TG and Whatsapp are not that popular in the US, and imagine someone wanting to use their phone as a phone....
well, I get that. We still have 3G and GSM. And every time I work on new rollout things are more and more complicated because of all generations are still in use. Connecting to a unknown wifi every time seems very not practical and if it is not opened public network (which again is not great) how does that work then? I get it if you are at home/family/friends but my question is more like, no cell signal, jut some random wifi. To me it looks more like a patch then an actual service/solution for the lack of cell signal. Or is that something that you really can rely on?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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The issue is when I'm in my local public supermarket there is no T-Mobile coverage in the building. There is Wi-Fi and I do use Google meet and other apps over Wi-Fi but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
Someone would have to actually know that I'm in a no coverage area and utilize one of those other apps to reach me. If not businesses, job offers, local businesses that don't know me personally, someone new that I've met etc etc would never get through to me and I would eventually receive some type of voicemail message indication. That is unacceptable when you have children and other family members and friends that need to get in contact with you immediately.
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but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
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Exactly the point, your phone number is the primary way many reach you. if your phone does not have any 3G\4G\5G coverage, then WiFi might be your only other option that gives people the ability to call you directly with your phone.
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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There are many places that I have frequented where cellular data and cellular calling will not go through. In those places Wi-Fi is available. While you can use WhatsApp and other individual applications to make video calls and even voice calls you will not be able to receive native incoming calls when someone calls your regular phone number nor will you be able to use your native dialer to make a regular phone call if Wi-Fi calling is not provisioned on your phone. Unfortunately our phones do not get provisioned for T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling apparently due to some issue between the Sony and T-Mobile. So by switching to another carrier or mvno, Wi-Fi calling will be enabled reportedly.
UPDATE: Switched to Google Fi.... Problem solved. Wi-Fi calling now enabled.
That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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It can work on any Wi-Fi network that has adequate bandwidth. I can go to my local Publix supermarket....no cellular signal in there: I turn my WiFi on, I can make/receive calls with the native phone dialer. No cellular tower needed.
Even tested this at home.... I turned Airplane mode on, then afterwards I ONLY turn wi-fi on.... Calls can be made/received.