I had force stopped/greenified apps but even after that Android isn't releasing their used memory.
I had to uninstall all Apps and minimize using to WhatsApp,Gmail,Hangout and Hike Messenger.
I can't even keep extra apps installed.
I am using Greenify with Xposed Framework to freeze system apps and prevent them from waking up.
Still there is no way to gain memory of frozen apps.
Easy way to notice:
1. Open Settings-Applications-Running Apps-
2. Memorize free RAM.
3. Try force stopping bunch of heavy Apps.
4. You won't see free RAM increased no matter what you do.
I was actually thinking to give up S6 Edge but I hope Samsung or someone might fix this annoying Memory bug.
Note: I have tried all custom ROM's till latest Crash ROM V2.4.
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Having been an Android user for a while now, I'm familiar with the arguments for and against task killers and weather or not they hurt or help performance and battery life. My understanding is that "Background" apps will terminate and give up their allocated memory when needed.
For apps that run as a Service, even if you terminate them, they restart immediately. It would seem that if you have too many apps that want to run as services, then you would have issues with available memory.
is there any way to disable an app from running persistently? There are many apps I have installed that I really don't want them to run unless I launch them (pageonce, for example).
Since 3.5 I can't use my TP for more than 10 minutes without a FC. Apps like autokiller memory optimizer and body fitness wont even open. I've uninstalled and reinstalled these apps with no luck. When this happens the whole TP freezes, ill post the FC message but I'm pretty sure it says something different... ill check.
Any CM7 settings thtat might help/cause this?
Download Rom Manager free, and run the fix permissions option, then reboot. Worth a try.
As for autokill apps, repeat after me, "Android is NOT windows". Task killers with newer versions of android will do more harm than good. Android manages memory differently than windows and will kill background apps when necessessary as memory is needed. Many apps that show up as running are really not taking up memory but are placeholders until they are called by another app. To prove this to yourself, go to manage applications and kill several apps then wait, they will restart almost immetiately but are not really using any space. Task killers will actually use more battery than would normally be used because those background apps are restarting.
If you are having constant FC's, the fix permissions routine would be the first step followed by wiping the cache. If you have installed any new apps recently, one of them may be causing a conflict. If you have Titanium Backup, you could try freezing those apps one at a time to see if that might be the case.
My installs of both cm7 a3, a3.5, and xron a2.8 have been free of the dreaded FC's but I always wipe all cache files and wipe date between installs then restore with TI (files only). I keep all app data in my box files in case I need it.
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Hey...not sure if this has been answered before or not but im trying to figure out battery draining issues and one of things ive always used is ram optimizers...I have Android Booster and Android Assisant ....and then i also use the built in task manager to clear memory...shouldbi be using these apps or are they draining the battery by running in the background? They seem to clean up a nice amount of memory....and keep my phone running fast....just dont know much about them...
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I do not think that by cleaning your RAM, you can reduce power consumption by RAM.
Actually, you do increase it. Android itself closes unnecessary applications when needed to clear memory. But, when you clean memory, either by task manager, or some custom tools, you are basically forcing applications to close and restart unnecessarily. I would say, it is additional load on CPU, and thus on battery.
For most applications, exactly startup and finish times are most expensive in terms of CPU load and battery. And most well-designed applications will not drain your battery when paused.
Reminds me of RAM cleaner programs for Windows machines, that would simply trigger excessive page faults.
while i agree with most of what you posted, there are 2 major flaws in your logic:
1. you talk about closing apps that restart on their own, but not many apps actually do that. sure, widgets, services, your launcher, communication apps and syncing apps need to run in the background, but certainly there are other apps eating away the battery, that need to be fully closed, when not needed. kies air or wifi file explorer come to mind. some of those apps don't fully close through the back button and must be killed from a task manager to save battery.
2. you say apps are paused. that is not necessarily true. many apps are capable of fully running in the background, after all, we are talking android and not iOS. we have full multitasking and apps are not generally suspended. say, you want to play a game for the first time and it needs to download more data. you can do whatever you want with your phone, open a dozen other apps, browse and listen to music, that download will continue in the background. this might fill up the ram over time, if you never close an app or apps do not allow direct closing.
there is a reason why samsung supplied the phone with a built-in task manager.
some apps are not well made and don't quit properly and need to be killed that way and killing off unnecessary apps (that won't restart) makes sense.
and let's not forget apps that get stuck but don't force close. they need to be killed as well. what else are you gonna do? restart the phone? certainly that wastes way more power than a restart of a few services.
every time you have a look at the samsung task manager or the "running" panel of "manage applications" and you use 500 something MB of ram and kill all apps, it will go down to something like 200 something, then the services restart and you are back up to maybe close to 300 (all numbers vary on your rom and apps). given that situation permanently saving 40% of ram is certainly a good reason to kill apps before you put the phone in your pocket.
I guess, then, it is best practice to kill all apps from task manager, a few times a day, especially after using several different applications and closing them. Applications that are needed will be restarted automatically.
I am not sure about running so called "RAM optimizers" constantly, though. When you are using your phone, it simply introduces more lags. Otherwise, it does nothing, if you have cleared RAM after heavy usage.
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I guess, then, it is best practice to kill all apps from task manager, a few times a day, especially after using several different applications and closing them. Applications that are needed will be restarted automatically.
I am not sure about running so called "RAM optimizers" constantly, though. When you are using your phone, it simply introduces more lags. Otherwise, it does nothing, if you have cleared RAM after heavy usage.
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killing itself is not necessary in the 1st part.
the more the memory android uses the better the apps behave, thats how android is desinged.
if you people still want to release some memory just use the samsung task manager ot clear memory or "fast reboot" from market.
Thx for the posts...i deleted the 2 android apps for now to see if theres a difference...i will trybusing just the built in task manager for a few days and see how that goes. But for example i mainly use my phone for words with friends...facebook...twitter and instagram....when i run the built in task manager it frees up mabye 200mb of ram....then i would run android booster which would clean up another 200mb and would close stuff like facebook...and tweetcaster and so on....the built in task manager doesnt seem to pick up on and close everything it should...which is why i downloaded the others...my phone has 800+ mb available and i usually find that ots using 500 of those 800 at all times...i wouldbfind myself constantly closing stuff with the optimizers...but like you said...they just open up in the background again anyway. Im rooted and have got rid of all the safe stuff to get rid of and the funny thing is i still dont see much of a difference in ram consumption...i think of ram as important cause it keeps things running smooth with no lag...not sure what to do i guess...ill try it like this without the optimizers and see how things go and download them again if i get bad lag...what i really need is a actual list of my phones internal software so i can get rid of the rest of the unneeded system files...ive found similar lists..but never a list of my actual phone...theres certain stuff running on my phone that isnt in the lists ive found so i left them with the worry that i may have to reinstall the rom if i delete the wrong thing...im also a android noob...only 2 months of using it so far so ive got tons more learning to do...thx for the opinions tho...keep em coming if you got em!
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Hi all, I own xperia Neo V. Rooted recently. I found that a few apps like Hill climb racing, Zedge, Youtube Latitude etc.. are constantly loading as widgets or under other category into my RAM. I installed android assistant to see the list of processes in memory and found that these apps are loading constantly. RAM gets equipped quite soon and system performance gets degaraded. I also installed Next Launcher 3D. Would it be any cause for this? I also tried a few task killer apps especially from one of the XDA developers (Boost my Xperia) it is excellent, frees up memory by removing unncessary apps, but after a few minuts, RAM gets laoded by leaving only 35-40MB of free space.
Would anyone please suggest/guide me in managing memory efficiently?
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Hi all, I own xperia Neo V. Rooted recently. I found that a few apps like Hill climb racing, Zedge, Youtube Latitude etc.. are constantly loading as widgets or under other category into my RAM. I installed android assistant to see the list of processes in memory and found that these apps are loading constantly. RAM gets equipped quite soon and system performance gets degaraded. I also installed Next Launcher 3D. Would it be any cause for this? I also tried a few task killer apps especially from one of the XDA developers (Boost my Xperia) it is excellent, frees up memory by removing unncessary apps, but after a few minuts, RAM gets laoded by leaving only 35-40MB of free space.
Would anyone please suggest/guide me in managing memory efficiently?
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Killing task won't help, since Android must restart all killed (sticky) tasks. Using ICS or later, you can disable many of them at the same place you usually uninstall them -- or uninstall them (mutual exclusive options). Also, don't look at "free memory". Memory is not supposed to be "free". Free memory is wasted memory, and Linux always try to use all memory in the most appropriate way. If fewer apps, more space goes to buffers, caches etc, always resulting about the same amount of free memory in the end.
If you are rooted.. try the greenify app.. which will put the background apps in hibernate mod if they are idle for sometime.. this will save your ram and battery..
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If you are rooted.. try the greenify app.. which will put the background apps in hibernate mod if they are idle for sometime.. this will save your ram and battery..
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Thanks, will give it a shot.
Yeah. I was gonna suggest greenify too.
Next launcher takes a lot of RAM, around 80 MB. Try some other light weight launchers.
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I have noticed that many Android Apps like Facebook, CCleaner, LinkedIn etc. are automatically get waked even if I Force stop these Apps on my Phone.
I even have Optimize enabled on all such Apps on Oneplus 5T - Android 10.
Is there any way using which I can actually permanent stop the apps and they don't wake automatically until and until I open them manually?
Take out the trash. Either use a adb edit or a package disabler to neuter the bloatware.
SD Maid is better than CCleaner, dump it.