It seems QCM+ does not work on Moto X Pure, so I decided to create a small tool to disable 2-4 CPU cores to squeeze an extra juice.
Snapdragon 808 comes with 6 cores, so if there is no CPU intensive tasks we can disable some cores.
With 3 cores disabled, my battery looks like just as frozen when the phone is idle.
Anyway, try if you are interested.
Source is here
https://github.com/vadimtk/MotoXCPUManager
App is here or attached:
https://github.com/vadimtk/MotoXCPUManager/releases/download/v0.2/MotoXCPUManager.apk
Looks promising!
I'm assuming we would have to do this manually, correct?
I also wonder if this would interfere with Moto Voice and/or any Moto features since I hear they tend to use certain low powered cores for features.
Yes, this all manual process, you choose how many cores you want.
Moto display works fine; not sure about voice and other Moto features.
Interesting ... Concerned about it interfering with some Moto features, but may have to play and see what happens!
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Interesting! Two questions:
1) Can the user choose which cores (big vs little) to disable? Presumably disabling the big ones will give the most saving, but it'd fun to get some experimental data.
2) Is this app tasker friendly? (e.g. automatically turn off 2 cores when screen off, and turn off 4 cores from 11pm to 6am etc)
THANKS!
Gonna try this! Just disabled 2 cores while at work, gonna start there and see how it goes. This may come in real handy for when I'm away from a charger for long periods of time and don't really use my phone for anything but a camera or some social media - like sporting events (have a Cardinal game and a NASCAR race all within the next 3 weeks) = Perfect timing
Anyway to have the settings survive a reboot?
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Coming from a Z3c, I'm all about battery life. With greenify, amplify, and disabling all moto apps (enable LED for notifications), Tinfoil for facebook, and travel mode in Snapchat I got it down to around 4.1% battery drain per hour with my android watch paired (gwr) and cerberus. Fully charged at 8am and at 2pm I was at 75% with 1hr of SOT. With this I just disabled 3 cores so let's see what happens!
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Coming from a Z3c, I'm all about battery life. With greenify, amplify, and disabling all moto apps (enable LED for notifications), Tinfoil for facebook, and travel mode in Snapchat I got it down to around 4.1% battery drain per hour with my android watch paired (gwr) and cerberus. Fully charged at 8am and at 2pm I was at 75% with 1hr of SOT. With this I just disabled 3 cores so let's see what happens!
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Any update on battery life?
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Any update on battery life?
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With my LG G Watch R paired, it seems the best I can get it is around 3.3% per hour. That's better than my old Z3 Compact.
I'm perturbed on the quality of reviews this phone is getting. It's so political. The new MXPE lasts at least 20hrs per charge out of the box which is equal to that of the new Note 5 yet in reviews the MXPE battery is "meh", yet the Note 5 is "The best big phone just got better". They're exactly the same in terms of battery life!!!
In every feature, hardware or software the MXPE is on par or better than the Note 5 and the Note 5 is the "Best big phone" and the MXPE is "okay for a cheap phone".
The ****? I know pretty much all reviews are biased to whomever pays them the best so it's whatever. If you want to see something really funny, we all know the new Z5 is a piece of crap yet all the "big names" are reviewing it as something spectacular with the best camera yet.... except this guy. He gives an honest review and if you've never owned a Z series phone you know he's spot on.
http://twentyfirsttech.com/2015/09/24/sony-xperia-z5-first-impressions/
TwoStroker37 said:
With my LG G Watch R paired, it seems the best I can get it is around 3.3% per hour. That's better than my old Z3 Compact.
I'm perturbed on the quality of reviews this phone is getting. It's so political. The new MXPE lasts at least 20hrs per charge out of the box which is equal to that of the new Note 5 yet in reviews the MXPE battery is "meh", yet the Note 5 is "The best big phone just got better". They're exactly the same in terms of battery life!!!
In every feature, hardware or software the MXPE is on par or better than the Note 5 and the Note 5 is the "Best big phone" and the MXPE is "okay for a cheap phone".
The ****? I know pretty much all reviews are biased to whomever pays them the best so it's whatever. If you want to see something really funny, we all know the new Z5 is a piece of crap yet all the "big names" are reviewing it as something spectacular with the best camera yet.... except this guy. He gives an honest review and if you've never owned a Z series phone you know he's spot on.
http://twentyfirsttech.com/2015/09/24/sony-xperia-z5-first-impressions/
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I just meant for you after you diables 3 cores with this app.
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1) Can the user choose which cores (big vs little) to disable? Presumably disabling the big ones will give the most saving, but it'd fun to get some experimental data.
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I can't find how to choose in Linux big vs little, do you have links on this topic?
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2) Is this app tasker friendly? (e.g. automatically turn off 2 cores when screen off, and turn off 4 cores from 11pm to 6am etc)
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Probably no, this is a very basic app, almost a prototype. I want to see if there is any interest to it before investing more time into development
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I can't find how to choose in Linux big vs little, do you have links on this topic?
Probably no, this is a very basic app, almost a prototype. I want to see if there is any interest to it before investing more time into development
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/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpu_freq/affected_cpus
The first 4 are big and the last 2 are little.
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I can't find how to choose in Linux big vs little, do you have links on this topic?
Probably no, this is a very basic app, almost a prototype. I want to see if there is any interest to it before investing more time into development
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what command do you use to disable cores? if your app can not support tasker one could just integrate the command you run into a tasker profile and accomplish it that way...
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case-sensitive said:
Interesting! Two questions:
1) Can the user choose which cores (big vs little) to disable? Presumably disabling the big ones will give the most saving, but it'd fun to get some experimental data.
2) Is this app tasker friendly? (e.g. automatically turn off 2 cores when screen off, and turn off 4 cores from 11pm to 6am etc)
THANKS!
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i found how to do disable cores via tasker. what is the big vs little? for instance, what 2 cores would you want disabled with screen off and so on. i will share script with you.. this way, it will be automatic and you could enable all cores on cpu intensive apps and so on....
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gmillz said:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpu_freq/affected_cpus
The first 4 are big and the last 2 are little.
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what is the desired way to do this? disable little cores first, disable big cores first, disable them equally (1 small, i big, and so on)?
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what command do you use to disable cores? if your app can not support tasker one could just integrate the command you run into a tasker profile and accomplish it that way...
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i found how to do disable cores via tasker. what is the big vs little? for instance, what 2 cores would you want disabled with screen off and so on. i will share script with you.. this way, it will be automatic and you could enable all cores on cpu intensive apps and so on....
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what is the desired way to do this? disable little cores first, disable big cores first, disable them equally (1 small, i big, and so on)?
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Disable big first. You'll save more power.
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Disable big first. You'll save more power.
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so, say you want to disable only 2 cores, you would do 3 and 4 first? the app posted by the OP disables 5 and 6 first, which seem to be little cores. or, would you do 1 big and 1 little first. so for 2 cores, disable 4 and 5, then for 3 cores disable 4 (big), 5 (little), and 3 (big). the for 4 cores do 4, 5, 3, 6 (little).
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so, say you want to disable only 2 cores, you would do 3 and 4 first? the app posted by the OP disables 5 and 6 first, which seem to be little cores. or, would you do 1 big and 1 little first. so for 2 cores, disable 4 and 5, then for 3 cores disable 4 (big), 5 (little), and 3 (big). the for 4 cores do 4, 5, 3, 6 (little).
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It really depends on what the user wants. But for the most power saving. Disable 4 and 5 first. Which are the big cores.
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what command do you use to disable cores? if your app can not support tasker one could just integrate the command you run into a tasker profile and accomplish it that way...
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I use
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echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu5/online
gmillz said:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpu_freq/affected_cpus
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Actually I read more on this and I think that Snapdragon 808 has only 2 big cores and 4 little cores.
So cores 0,1,2,3 - little
4,5 - big
In my app I disable 4,5 first
VadimTk said:
Actually I read more on this and I think that Snapdragon 808 has only 2 big cores and 4 little cores.
So cores 0,1,2,3 - little
4,5 - big
In my app I disable 4,5 first
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yeah, i see you disable 4 and 5 first. where did you read that the 808 only has 2 big cores? i like your app, just implementing it via tasker. i used the same command you did so at least i did that correctly!
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yeah, i see you disable 4 and 5 first. where did you read that the 808 only has 2 big cores? i like your app, just implementing it via tasker. i used the same command you did so at least i did that correctly!
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i found where the 808 is indeed 4 little cores and 2 big cores, just trying to find which cores are what. thanks in advance...
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Ok so im rooted and overclocked and was using setcpu then decided i wanna try something different so i tried system tuner! When i checked the cpu it said that one of the processors are off line! Then i pressed the info button and sure enough it says only reading one! So i went through the settings and found force both cores online!
Since then i have no lag and virtually no checkerboarding on the web! Anyway i was just wondering if im the only one who noticed this and maybe it could help those who say that they are still getting lag on they're roms using dag's kernel!
Also i hope devs will notice this thread since i can't post there yet and take advantage of this how ever they can!
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
blitzer320 said:
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
if you want both cores on click on boot settings and enable force all cpus online. that heats up your phone and eats more battery though+I do not see any benefits doing that.
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
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I've had it like this for 4 days on average i will take of the charger at 8am now is 8:30pm and i have 27% but i use my navigation for my Job! By 10:30 or so ill have 15% and recharge!
Settings
1836 max
192 min
Governer
Smartassv2
Both cores pushing
Screen off
192 max
In call
384 max
Tomorrow ill post some pics of battery life usage!
And my phone doesn't get any hotter than normal not even while using my navi! Mostly it just gives no lag and better rendering in the browser/maps/etc!!
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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Same, but having a better processor helps. Like exynos. I bet once we update to ics if it ever happens, the differences will be only minor between processors, as it runs so nice.
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
I thought I'd play and I have CPU0 running and CPU1 running.
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Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Not entirely true.. the Galaxy Nexus has a kernel governor that turns one core off when the SCREEN IS OFF, but not when the phone is being used. Multiple kernel creators have since implemented this into their kernels. It is called "hot plugging" and it just turns CPU 1 offline when the screen is off and turns it back on when the screen is on
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Just checked mine, rooted and OC with DaG's 0.1 version (first version). When I looked, it said the second CPU was offline. Changed it to online, we'll see how that impacts battery life.
How much of an advantage is smartassv2 anyway?
I just tried this with system tuner and both cpus were working but wone was of and on and zero was always on.
I am running stock rooted. If you just sit yhere and watch it you will see tje sevond core fires and shuts down alot.
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
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Same for me (CPU 0 on, CPU1 off, most times) and I'll say I have noticed no real changes in functionality (speed, rendering, etc) or battery life...
I guess jury is still out or is this a YMMV kind of thing?
I installed system runner and watched the cpus. One was on and the other kicked in periodically
Mine said it was offline as well. Forced it on and am not noticing any difference in speed or temp.
Ill leave it like this to test it further.
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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As far as I know yes you must have super user permission to alter such system activities
I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to force the second core online, it turns on and off when it needs to.
Hi everyone. I did some research on this topic but stil cant get an answer that helps me fully understand. I have seen the option to force all CPUs online on almost every device I have ever had, but it somehow baffles me. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus and a new Transfomer Prime both running AOKP. When I look in System Tuner Pro, I can see that only 1 core is active. On the G Nexus it doesnt bother me that much to see only 1 running, but on the Prime, it does seem kind of strange that only 1 of the 4 cores is running. There is an option to force all cpus online, and Im wondering if its a good idea or not?
I wonder why the option is off to begin with? Whats the point of having multiple cores if only one is active? Are there any advantages/disadvantages to forcing them all online? Will they come on automatically when running graphic intensive applications, or will they always stay off if I dont turn them on?
Im on my 7th Android device and have always wondered about this, but having my first quad core device has really made me wonder even more.
Can anyone help me out with these questions? I would love some clarity on how exactly this works.
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its actually very simple as I've described it in detail in various threads. what reason should you have for it? there is nothing THST even remotely requires that much power. so what use would it be other than burn battery up extra fast.
more than one core activates. Prime governor by default is set to On Demand. so when it needs the extra power, it'll cut on multiple cores. when it doesn't need the power, it conserves battery. you will be surprised how fast n smooth things run even on battery savings mode @ 1Ghz.
If you really interested in burning up your battery and heating up the prime CPU faster than normal, let me know. lol. ill tell you how to make all cores active BUT they will be maxed out at whatever top speed you running at/whatever power mode you on. Curiosity killed the cat ya know..lmao
actually you need to read this PDF file attached to get a better understanding of how tegra3 and mulitple cores work. its attached to this post. first one is tegra3 whitepages. most detailed info you will find on how tegra3 works. then 2nd one is whitepages on multicore cpu's and how they operate.
demandarin said:
its actually very simple as I've described it in detail in various threads. what reason should you have for it? there is nothing THST even remotely requires that much power. so what use would it be other than burn battery up extra fast.
more than one core activates. Prime governor by default is set to On Demand. so when it needs the extra power, it'll cut on multiple cores. when it doesn't need the power, it conserves battery. you will be surprised how fast n smooth things run even on battery savings mode @ 1Ghz.
If you really interested in burning up your battery and heating up the prime CPU faster than normal, let me know. lol. ill tell you how to make all cores active BUT they will be maxed out at whatever top speed you running at/whatever power mode you on. Curiosity killed the cat ya know..lmao
actually you need to read this PDF file attached to get a better understanding of how tegra3 and mulitple cores work. its attached to this post. first one is tegra3 whitepages. most detailed info you will find on how tegra3 works. then 2nd one is whitepages on multicore cpu's and how they operate.
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This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you very much for this! I didn't know the other core/cores in the Prime/GNexus would automatically come on when needed.
Thanks again!
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Dai323 said:
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you very much for this! I didn't know the other core/cores in the Prime/GNexus would automatically come on when needed.
Thanks again!
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no problem.
Hi.. just wondering on how can you reverse the process back? I seemed to turn all my cores on..
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Hello ,
I own honor 8 pro but the screen broke so I went back to my oneplus2
yesterday I got le max 2 32gb very neat state but without box
is it worth to sell my op2 and add 1000rs to buy the max2 ?
what guys no answer ?
many of you been using this device for a while
please give me advice if I should buy it or not
well...depends on your use. I will recommend it, the only thing I don't like is the battery in every other aspect works good. I don't root it yet, I plan to do it, to install apps for improve battery like L-Speed or Helix Engine
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depends on your use I mean, do you have an agressive use of social networks, play games, etc...better a Xiaomi, if it's for regular use works good. The fast charger is a pro, with half an hour you have a decent amount of energy to continue until the night
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well...depends on your use. I will recommend it, the only thing I don't like is the battery in every other aspect works good. I don't root it yet, I plan to do it, to install apps for improve battery like L-Speed or Helix Engine
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depends on your use I mean, do you have an agressive use of social networks, play games, etc...better a Xiaomi, if it's for regular use works good. The fast charger is a pro, with half an hour you have a decent amount of energy to continue until the night
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ok so how many hours the battery stands
and whats is the sot
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ok so how many hours the battery stands
and whats is the sot
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again, it depends on the use. In general with my use I have 1 day and 15, 17 hours of battery average. And with SOT, 3 hours 30 minutes. Again, depends on the use. With agressive use the battery will drop a lot.
I use a alternative client of facebook, twitter from an open source browser and blackberry hub...
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the system UI is nice, I like it very much. You can read about custom roms and is a dispute between goods and bads
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again, it depends on the use. In general with my use I have 1 day and 15, 17 hours of battery average. And with SOT, 3 hours 30 minutes. Again, depends on the use. With agressive use the battery will drop a lot.
I use a alternative client of facebook, twitter from an open source browser and blackberry hub...
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the system UI is nice, I like it very much. You can read about custom roms and is a dispute between goods and bads
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thanks for replying bro
my oneplus 2 battery isnt that good either
and I prolong battery life by using custom kernels and roms
Aimen 1 said:
thanks for replying bro
my oneplus 2 battery isnt that good either
and I prolong battery life by using custom kernels and roms
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well if it's in that way maybe better a Xiaomi for the well balanced battery. I read that the Redmi Note 4 gets 6 hours of SOT. I know that other models of LeEco have 4.000 mah battery but I don't know how is the optimization
It doesn't has microsd card slot.So 32 gb storage can not be expanded.QSD 820 still rocks in most of the heavy games, despite of being 2 years old and way better than QSD 808 of op2's.Your choice.
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It doesn't has microsd card slot.So 32 gb storage can not be expanded.QSD 820 still rocks in most of the heavy games, despite of being 2 years old and way better than QSD 808 of op2's.Your choice.
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yes one of the reasons I want to change is the processor and the screen
if battery is not a problem go for it... i usually get 4-5 of SOT (sometimes less it depends on your usage) and gaming like pubg literally kills the battery 25% per pubg match...
Heyyo, yes I would say it's worth it. I had a Nexus 6P which had the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 which isn't good for battery life and performance isn't too great either in 3D games. The LeEco Le Max 2 with Oreo custom ROMs works great in 3D games. :good:
I would also look for deals on devices with SnapDragon 835 as they have also come down in price (albeit nowhere near as low as the Le Max 2) as you never know, might find one worth the price difference.
So yeah, if you're into 3d games or want a device with a higher density screen? The Le Max 2 is worth the upgrade.
We do lack SDcard and NFC though, so if those are important to you? Unfortunately you'll have to look for a different device...
Also, the camera on the Le Max 2 is really darn good. Only downside is the OIS isn't super effective compared to other OIS devices and we only get 1080P 30fps (and 4K UHD 30fps). I'm guessing it was a budget cut on the Sony Exmor RS IMX230 we got in order to keep the prices low... But damn, this camera with Google Camera Mod? It is impressive what it can do!
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Heyyo, yes I would say it's worth it. I had a Nexus 6P which had the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 which isn't good for battery life and performance isn't too great either in 3D games. The LeEco Le Max 2 with Oreo custom ROMs works great in 3D games. :good:
I would also look for deals on devices with SnapDragon 835 as they have also come down in price (albeit nowhere near as low as the Le Max 2) as you never know, might find one worth the price difference.
So yeah, if you're into 3d games or want a device with a higher density screen? The Le Max 2 is worth the upgrade.
We do lack SDcard and NFC though, so if those are important to you? Unfortunately you'll have to look for a different device...
Also, the camera on the Le Max 2 is really darn good. Only downside is the OIS isn't super effective compared to other OIS devices and we only get 1080P 30fps (and 4K UHD 30fps). I'm guessing it was a budget cut on the Sony Exmor RS IMX230 we got in order to keep the prices low... But damn, this camera with Google Camera Mod? It is impressive what it can do!
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already bought it
the 810 started dying and isnt really effective anymore
also Im trying to save to buy good laptop so sd 835,845 ,kirin 970 are not in the budget
only one thing annoying is the company dumped the phone and no updates so rom suggestion would be really helpful
Aimen 1 said:
already bought it
the 810 started dying and isnt really effective anymore
also Im trying to save to buy good laptop so sd 835,845 ,kirin 970 are not in the budget
only one thing annoying is the company dumped the phone and no updates so rom suggestion would be really helpful
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Heyyo, for ROM updates? There is some from LeEco yes... But they're still Marshmallow and they don't really bother updating security level which has been on January 1, 2017 for quite a while...
For custom ROMs? Pretty much any Oreo ROM. They're all really darn good and almost all of them still get constant updates.
I'd recommend searching the ROM development thread and see which one has the most recent comments to your linking. :good:
I myself am the Le Max 2 maintainer for LineageOS 15.1 and tbh I haven't really tried any other Oreo ROMs so I can't comment on how their balance of performance, battery life and features are but yeah there's a lot to choose from and you can't really go wrong.
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Heyyo, for ROM updates? There is some from LeEco yes... But they're still Marshmallow and they don't really bother updating security level which has been on January 1, 2017 for quite a while...
For custom ROMs? Pretty much any Oreo ROM. They're all really darn good and almost all of them still get constant updates.
I'd recommend searching the ROM development thread and see which one has the most recent comments to your linking. :good:
I myself am the Le Max 2 maintainer for LineageOS 15.1 and tbh I haven't really tried any other Oreo ROMs so I can't comment on how their balance of performance, battery life and features are but yeah there's a lot to choose from and you can't really go wrong.
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ok bro thanks for replying I downloaded lineage rom as I was using it with op2
my last questions
is the HDR works in any cam app
is there no issue with fast charge
how is the battery consumption
is there a kernel for battery optimization like balanced or power saving mode
Aimen 1 said:
ok bro thanks for replying I downloaded lineage rom as I was using it with op2
my last questions
is the HDR works in any cam app
is there no issue with fast charge
how is the battery consumption
is there a kernel for battery optimization like balanced or power saving mode
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HDR works fine with any camera app. For Oreo ROMs though it is recommended to use Tolyan009 builds as they are stable for us.
Quick Charge 3.0 works fine for me yeah. Some users report charging issues if the battery goes above 40°c and that is something I will be looking into.
Battery idle consumption is pretty good... But screen on time isn't due to mainly the QHD screen and not massive battery to compensate. I tend to get about 5 hours SoT and I don't 3D game or such. Mainly web browsing, Telegram, XDA and VNC Remote PC control.
Like others have said, screen on time for the Le Max 2 isn't so good... But it can be improved with some sacrifices to performance. LineageOS tends to lean a slight bit more towards performance than a balance between performance and battery life.
For kernels? There is bs kernel and the GalaticStryder kernel (found in the LineageOS "Pro" thread) which both have threads in the ROM development forum section.
Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the ROM that comes to mind for battery life over performance. Afaik it doesn't have an active thread on XDA so they use a telegram channel for updates, downloads and discussion.
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl
been using the phone for 3 days now
flashed lineage rom and got 3:50 hrs sot with normal usage
also got 156000 points on antutu which still impressive
charging takes 1 hour and 20 minutes to 100% using 5.2v 2A lenovo adapter
so overall yes it worth buying and would have been great if the company released nougat at least
I am a Mate10Pro user and i bought very cheap the LeEcoMax 2 from Ebay. I just want to test it but now it replaced my Mate10Pro completly. The device is now 2 years old but running very fast and i have flashed AEX Official v.5.7 based on 8.1 and it's a real good combination . I also flashed LOS on it and it's also a good rom in combination with the phone. I am using a Gcam mod and the pics are awesome, the portrait mode is working great. I have to admit that the battery life is not that good compared to the M10Pro and also some apps are not opening such fast but these are things i can live with. Cheers
Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
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Hy guys.
My girfriend bought a beautiful S9 plus and she loves it. It is a great piece of hardware, from design to speed and camera. Just amazing.
Of course i had to test a few things myself (still a rooted note 3 owner). I tried my old "Nemesis", Retroarch, with a couple of games (3rd gen Cave shmups) that put to shame every smartphone Cpu sp far.
The games finally ran full speed, except for moments where a ton of stuff happends on screen and the framerate and audio start going a bit crazy. What is strange though, is the fact that the Cpu never goes beyond 1.7 ghz, never once, which is the little cores max frequency. I'd expect it to reach 2.7 which is the max for the big powerfull ones, to further smoothen the performance.
Is there something i'm missing here? There is no power saving activated and the game center(?forgot the actual.name) settings are set to performance (though from what i understand it only affects display, not Cpu).
...help?
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I haven't gone beyond 1.7ghz since my last reset, I did when I first got the phone but my assumption is that s new kernel was installed that changed the way the CPU ramped up (Exynos btw) to counter the battery life claims. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
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. In all honesty from my limited knowledge it's probably the GPU that limits the frame rate but that's only a guess as 8 cores @ 1.7ghz is plenty of processing power.
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The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
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The S9+ is not rooted, so it's on stock kernel.
Also, the emulator (mame) is designed to only use Cpu for 2d games, with Gpu used at minimum.
1.7 is far from enough, especially when it can go up to 2.7 to improve the otherwise non-optimal performance of the games. I'm very curious what's the issue here...
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Oh, now i understand. Well, it's very strange and frankly, a bit alarming. Could anyone else with up to date stock software share some numbers as well?
Same.
Same here on G965FXXU2BRG6.
Edit: It seems that CPU Spy doesn't work correctly on the S9. When using CPU-Z and running Geekbench 4, I can clearly see CPUs 4-7 running at 2704 MHz at times.
That's interesting. So my next test will have to involve Cpu-z as a monitoring tool. Thanks for the replies guys.
We need a cristal clear answer on this.
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Yea mine is stock as well - my observation was that in the first month or so I had hit 2.7 a fair amount, but haven't in the last 2 months once so assuming they modified the stock kernel
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
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God damn it. Haven't got the time to do further testing myself yet, but by the looks of it 1.7 seems to be the max. and not 2.7.
Any rooted phones owners care to share some numbers? Can you lock it to 2.7 like it should?
Are we talking Exynos or Snapdragon here? That'd be a good piece of info while sharing the stats!
Personally i'm talking about exynos, but apparently snapdragon behaves the same.
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Ran Antutu on S9+ Snapdragon last night, it's being throttled down to a max. of 1.77MHz and no more even during antutu's 15 minutes Stress Test. It would score much higher if it was allowed to.
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Post#9 was about Snapdragon
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
IrishRegent said:
Has anyone tried hitting the "Performance mode" toggle in the drop down menu? Stupid question, but easily overlooked.
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Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
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Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
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bummer.
RaduNastase said:
Yes, i tried all settings including performance mode. It only affects brightness and screen resolution. The Cpu speed is still limited to a 1.7 max.
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I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
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I did the same, then I tried in WQHD+ resolution hoping that it may create more demand from CPU/GPU and no, same 1.7. What is the best way to make a complaint about it to Samsung? We bought an 8 cylinder Maserati and after the honeymoon they remotely disabled two because the engine might blow?
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Probably the official forums.
It would be great if a rooted user with a Cpu oriented kernel (overclocking, voltage, governor manipulation) would show us that those big cores can, at least when rooted, be used at full potential.
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Thanks, am gonna register there, see what they have to say about it. That and my other question I'd have: why I received my 'new' S9+ with IMEI SV 07? And when I did IMEI lookup on line, found out that the phone was registered for warranty one month before I ordered it. My email to Customer Service was returned with "Samsung sells only brand new phones". Didn't know that there is no replacement policy at Samsung, you can only return it for refund, it's not a good option for me, because I took that 'bundle deal' and I don't owe the Chromebook anymore, they would subtract some$ from it. Well, according to Samsung, the warranty on my phone runs until October '19, we'll see.
What I've recently found out is the source of all LG's lags. It's not animations as everyone believed. They have 2 thing that must be fixed urgently. Firstly they have cfq scheduler for I/O ops which I believe is way too slow and useless these days. It cripples I/O performance in the first place.
Secondly, if I go to dev settings and check "Enable strict mode" option you'll see red frames around apps when app runs in the main thread for long time. And what you'll see is that red frame never appears around Chrome, or Opera, or Firefox, or games.
Instead, when you go back to LG Home aka launcher, or to settings list like apps & notifications list you'll always see red frame appearing. It's because all the way LG's ROM is running in the main thread which is lame and legacy and must be deprecated and fixed ASAP. You can see red frame even when you press power button and block your phone which must not appear. Or, in stock Music app when browsing list of albums, red frame appears every several seconds.
How long will it take for LG to fix it's laggy ROM? It hurts their sales A LOT
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What I've recently found out is the source of all LG's lags. It's not animations as everyone believed. They have 2 thing that must be fixed urgently. Firstly they have cfq scheduler for I/O ops which I believe is way too slow and useless these days. It cripples I/O performance in the first place.
Secondly, if I go to dev settings and check "Enable strict mode" option you'll see red frames around apps when app runs in the main thread for long time. And what you'll see is that red frame never appears around Chrome, or Opera, or Firefox, or games.
Instead, when you go back to LG Home aka launcher, or to settings list like apps & notifications list you'll always see red frame appearing. It's because all the way LG's ROM is running in the main thread which is lame and legacy and must be deprecated and fixed ASAP. You can see red frame even when you press power button and block your phone which must not appear. Or, in stock Music app when browsing list of albums, red frame appears every several seconds.
How long will it take for LG to fix it's laggy ROM? It hurts their sales A LOT
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Look how long it took Samsung to get their crappy TouchWiz to not lag? I'm gonna guess not soon for LG lol
Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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Mine doesn't either.
V30, one year usage without factory reset, not a single lag. No idea what's are you talking about. Maybe it's your carrier stuff..
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Not sure what your problem is, my LG v20 and now v30 never lags.
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I hope that someone will ask Max Lee so him to show in his reviews of V40 what I said in original post. And if he'll show and compare with like some oneplus 6T everyone will see that and LG will have to do something about it
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I hope that someone will ask Max Lee so him to show in his reviews of V40 what I said in original post. And if he'll show and compare with like some oneplus 6T everyone will see that and LG will have to do something about it
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I really don't care about bench marks. They don't represent real life usage. The phone does not lag.
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Never lag? Come on folks. Underrated device but lags just like any other phone. Nothing major.
Don't know what op talking about.
Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
intruda119 said:
Never lag? Come on folks. Underrated device but lags just like any other phone. Nothing major.
Don't know what op talking about.
Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
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Considering the majority of LG owners with v20 and v30 never experienced lag....
And I see a majority of Huawei owners say that phone lags hard.
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Don't know what op talking about.
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I understood where I'm mistaken.
To see effect of "Strict mode enabled" you must reboot phone. I can't see red frames around screen not until I rebooted mine. But after I rebooted with "Enable strict mode" tick even when I start camera it fires up with red frame all around window. And even when I press power button to block phone it turns screen off but before it phone shows red frame. It shouldn't happen, the launcher LG Home shouldn't run itself always in the main thread.
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Huawei mate phones mever lag but theyre very strict with background things.
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Don't you suddenly know what I/O scheduler do Huawei's phones use? Probably different than cfq, right?
And background thing don't cause lags. There's at least 4 low power A53 cores aka Kryo Silver in every 835/845 that are able to run background things. Lags are caused by running interactive things in main tread which lead to visible delay for user
Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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I know. I'm running simply rooted stock firmware, and I don't know what people are complaining about.
ChazzMatt said:
I know. I'm running simply rooted stock firmware, and I don't know what people are complaining about.
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I don't even use greenify anymore. I noticed I got better battery life after I uninstalled it.
Yep, plain stock rooted no lag.
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I personally think is a mix bag of Android Oreo bugs and LG UI bugs mixed together and installing clunky apps do not help. The floating bar alone take 1gb of system memory for shortcuts that is some bad UI implementation.
I sometimes encounter lag on my G6. I dont know whats causing it. Im already using nova launcher. UI lag is still there.
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Im already using nova launcher. UI lag is still there.
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So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
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So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
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So now you know that it's really the I/O and Governors that's causing the lag. ?
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Uninstall all tweaks you don't need them. LG optimized the hell out of the V30. Your kernel tweaks are what's causing the lag. After I removed L Speed, Kernel Adiutor and all that nonsense my device has been lagfree. These apps make people think they undo an OS better than LG developers. Not tweaking anything gives you the best result.
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Lol sure, enjoy. Unzip for the shell script.
4-5 hour SOT. Minimal lag.
TotallyAnxious said:
Lol sure, enjoy. Unzip for the shell script.
4-5 hour SOT. Minimal lag.
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No thanks. You just said minimal lag and currently I get no lag.
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So, you know now that lags are not affected by which launcher you use and it's not LG launcher that lags? It's LG defective internal I/O and CPU governors that cause lags
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What are you on about???? There is NO LAG.
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No thanks. You just said minimal lag and currently I get no lag.
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What are you on about???? There is NO LAG.
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I don't have any lag either. I think he's done stuff to his phones, which cause lag.
For instance, some of the package disablers cause lag, depending on the system app being "disabled". Plus, you're not really saving any space.
The OP moved on to G7 before we got universal root on the V30 and may even be on V40 by now or he's seriously looking at it. He's posted AGAINST having ROOT in the recent past. We had a discussion in another thread on the V40 forum about root as philosophy of ownership. Some people feel that root is only for "improving" phone functionality and if stock firmware is good enough, there's no need for root anymore. I disagree with that sentiment.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77940202&postcount=18
He specifically mentioned app disablers here:
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So, what?
Yes, you can remove. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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