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Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for the AT&T 2015 version?
One HUGE thing we are missing is the ability to install apps and obb data to the external sd. This can only happen with root access, and root access can only happen with a bootloader unlock as far as I'm aware.
someone posted here about a new exploit that made the news but we have to wait and see i guess..
sorry i forgot what topic the guy posted that in.
maybe google it up with keywords like "Android exploit root"
The Verizon XT1528 and the AT&T/Cricket branded XT1527 have locked bootloaders that do not qualify for the Moto Bootloader Unlock program. Some people have had limited success getting temp root on the Verizon model by using Kingroot, but /system remains write protected.
However, people who want to use the phone on AT&T have an out: the Moto-direct factory unlocked model, which is currently under $100 on Amazon, has all of AT&T's bands and qualifies for the bootloader unlock program, which means you can install a custom recovery and root.
Verizon users, however, are left out in the cold, as the Moto-direct model lacks CDMA bands and Verizon's LTE Band 13.
This sucks! I accidentally bought an xt1527 from Amazon from a secondary seller and got the ATT version instead of what I thought was the international version. Doh! I didn't realize the ATT version has a permanently locked bootloader. Oh well, this was going to a niece as a gift and I just wanted root so I could install adaway for her.
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This sucks! I accidentally bought an xt1527 from Amazon from a secondary seller and got the ATT version instead of what I thought was the international version. Doh! I didn't realize the ATT version has a permanently locked bootloader. Oh well, this was going to a niece as a gift and I just wanted root so I could install adaway for her.
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I used Adblock Plus addon with NO root eh
only draw back is it will maintain a notification on you.
Ok, I've read around and since there are so many different answers, I need to ask and hopefully get a redirect to a confirmed thread or a straight up answer. I bought my daughter a 2015 Moto E phone. I got it from Amazon and it was advertised as factory unlocked GSM for use on AT&T or TMobile. Great, we are on TMobile so thats just right. I get it in the mail and its in an AT&T GoPhone package. Its the right XT1527 model and had all the right bands for TMobile so thats ok. I've already gone to att.com/deviceunlock and am waiting for my unlock code which customer service said wouldn't be an issue. But, its got all the crap AT&T apps preinstalled. I know where to find the 5.1 TMobile XT1527 firmware. If I flash that on my phone, will there be any negative side affect since its officially an AT&T branded phone? Do I have to wait for the SIM Unlock to be done first?
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Ok, I've read around and since there are so many different answers, I need to ask and hopefully get a redirect to a confirmed thread or a straight up answer. I bought my daughter a 2015 Moto E phone. I got it from Amazon and it was advertised as factory unlocked GSM for use on AT&T or TMobile. Great, we are on TMobile so thats just right. I get it in the mail and its in an AT&T GoPhone package. Its the right XT1527 model and had all the right bands for TMobile so thats ok. I've already gone to att.com/deviceunlock and am waiting for my unlock code which customer service said wouldn't be an issue. But, its got all the crap AT&T apps preinstalled. I know where to find the 5.1 TMobile XT1527 firmware. If I flash that on my phone, will there be any negative side affect since its officially an AT&T branded phone? Do I have to wait for the SIM Unlock to be done first?
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If you ordered this specific (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TFAVFL4) from Amazon, return it and get your money back. The factory unlocked model sold through Amazon does not come in a GoPhone package, comes in the standard Moto box. It also does not need any unlocking via AT&T's device unlock, just pop in the SIM and go.
Both the Moto-factory-direct and the AT&T/Cricket Moto E2s have the same model number, XT1527, but the AT&T/Cricket model has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked at present, so no perm. root, no /system read-write access, no custom recovery/ROMs, etc.
T-Mobile never carried the Moto E2, so there are no T-Mobile-branded ROMs available. And with a locked bootloader, I doubt you'll be able to install the Moto-factory-direct stock ROM (with no carrier bloat).
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If you ordered this specific (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TFAVFL4) from Amazon, return it and get your money back. The factory unlocked model sold through Amazon does not come in a GoPhone package, comes in the standard Moto box. It also does not need any unlocking via AT&T's device unlock, just pop in the SIM and go.
Both the Moto-factory-direct and the AT&T/Cricket Moto E2s have the same model number, XT1527, but the AT&T/Cricket model has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked at present, so no perm. root, no /system read-write access, no custom recovery/ROMs, etc.
T-Mobile never carried the Moto E2, so there are no T-Mobile-branded ROMs available. And with a locked bootloader, I doubt you'll be able to install the Moto-factory-direct stock ROM (with no carrier bloat).
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Thank you. For this phone, I'm not concerned about unlocking the bootloader. Its for my daughter, shes 9, as an emergency phone as well a starter phone. I got the ATT unlock code and it worked so its working fine on my TMo SIM. I tried a couple other firmwares and they softbricked the phone so I put the ATT one back on, disabled the ATT apps and its as close to stock as its gonna get.
Hey y'all I just picked up an att go phone moto e without researching it too much and I already bricked it trying sunshine. To unbrick it, I just flashed the att system image with fastboot and it made me wonder whether I can flash any motorola firmware, use kingroot, and then try sunshine again. Does anyone know if this can brick the phone permanently or is it probably safe to try it?
EDIT: tried it didn't work lol
You would have to try it and see. The XT1527 is used in Canada, and its not bootloader locked and comes with no bloat at all (at last when setting it up with no SIM inside it). I would imagine you would have to flash everything, and not just the system image, for it to work. That is if they use the same signing key for both.
The AT&T/Cricket-branded XT1527 (as well as the Verizon XT1528) have locked bootloaders and cannot be unlocked, so you cannot flash non-carrier firmware on the device. All other models can be unlocked via Moto's bootloader unlock program.
I will be unlocking my phone in about a month and moving to TMobile.
I'm just curious, has anyone moved their v30 plus from sprint to tmo and it work fine? (After unlocking it off course)
I do know there is one band that will not work, 600 or something like that, and I'm ok with that, as long as the rest will work ok.
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I will be unlocking my phone in about a month and moving to TMobile.
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Are you talking about carrier unlock or also bootloader unlock/root?
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I'm just curious, has anyone moved their v30 plus from sprint to tmo and it work fine? (After unlocking it off course)
I do know there is one band that will not work, 600 or something like that, and I'm ok with that, as long as the rest will work ok.
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Yes, many use on U.S. T-Mobile. Because the easiest way to carrier unlock LS998 is to flash US998 firmware. Convert LS998 V30+ to US99 V30+.
See the Frankenstein instructions.
At the end of the process you will have carrier unlocked US998 with these bands:
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
LTE band 71 is the only U.S. T-Mobile LTE band the US998 not any other V30 have except the T-Mobile H932.
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Are you talking about carrier unlock or also bootloader unlock/root?
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Just carrier unlock.
Not wanting to root although I have rooted multiple other phones before, so I am comfortable with doing so if and when I decide to.
So that brings me to a couple other questions. I have looked over the Frankenstein thread on how to flash from ls998 to us998 and even have the files for lgup downloaded, but I was curious about a few things.
1: say if I flash and get on TMobile fine and everything works then for whatever reason I want to go back to sprint, will the us998 work on sprint or will I have to flash back to ls998 for it to work?
2: if it's needed to flash back to ls998, the only way I am reading on forums is to unlock the bootloader and root, unless there is another way without rooting that I missed? If there is a rootless way could anyone direct me to that, I'd appreciate it greatly.
Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way anti-root, it's just not for me with this phone, so I'm trying to do all this without rooting (if possible)
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Just carrier unlock.
Not wanting to root although I have rooted multiple other phones before, so I am comfortable with doing so if and when I decide to.
So that brings me to a couple other questions. I have looked over the Frankenstein thread on how to flash from ls998 to us998 and even have the files for lgup downloaded, but I was curious about a few things.
1: say if I flash and get on TMobile fine and everything works then for whatever reason I want to go back to sprint, will the us998 work on sprint or will I have to flash back to ls998 for it to work?
2: if it's needed to flash back to ls998, the only way I am reading on forums is to unlock the bootloader and root, unless there is another way without rooting that I missed? If there is a rootless way could anyone direct me to that, I'd appreciate it greatly.
Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way anti-root, it's just not for me with this phone, so I'm trying to do all this without rooting (if possible)
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Both Sprint and AT&T do not release public KDZ (firmware images). For LS998, to carrier unlock it and get most compatibility with other North American carriers the method is to convert it (Frankenstein) to a native carrier unlocked firmware -- like Open Market US998 or even Canada H931. US998 is more popular because it also has fastboot flash commands.
While it's not entirely a one-way street, it's a lot harder to go back -- because Sprint doesn't release public KDZ images. Our talented devs have created their own TWRP flashable zips (basically ROMs) to flash back to Sprint firmware via TWRP. One dev even created a TWRP flashable zip for warranty return purposes that would flash back stock recovery, erasing TWRP custom recovery.
To use those, yes you have to be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP custom recovery.
While you can use US998 on Sprint, there are two caveats which may apply to you. Three Sprint LTE bands are missing on US998 and in the past Sprint wouldn't activate a US998 phone, even though IMEI shows it was a former LS998. However, someone recently said they were able to activate a NATIVE US998 phone on Sprint, so maybe their policies have changed? Still, in the past, the method for Sprint customers was to activate Sprint service while still on LS998 firmware, then temporarily convert to US998 for bootloader unlock and root, then flash back to Sprint firmware (to get those three LTE bands back) using TWRP flashable zip -- while keeping TWRP and root. If you wanted to go back to Sprint, you would probably have to bootloader unlock, install TWRP and flash one of those dev crafted Sprint stock ROMs.
I hope I haven't confused you. There is no need for you to bootloader unlock and root just to convert to US998 to go to T-mobile. "Frankenstein" existed long before our WTF bootloader unlock and root method, to carrier unlock the Sprint LS998 and AT&T H931. Merely convert to US998 and you are carrier unlocked, have bands compatible with most other carriers, and have access to publicly released KDZ.
The LS998 was the main reason Frankenstein was created. It's a V30+ and is available very inexpensively and can be carrier unlocked very easily. Most people using it are NOT Sprint customers. Like me, they bought to convert to US998. I wrote the Frankenstein instructions and the screenshot images are from my own LS998 I bought off eBay.
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Both Sprint and AT&T do not release public KDZ (firmware images). For LS998, to carrier unlock it and get most compatibility with other North American carriers the method is to convert it (Frankenstein) to a native carrier unlocked firmware -- like Open Market US998 or even Canada H931. US998 is more popular because it also has fastboot flash commands.
While it's not entirely a one-way street, it's a lot harder to go back -- because Sprint doesn't release public KDZ images. Our talented devs have created their own TWRP flashable zips (basically ROMs) to flash back to Sprint firmware via TWRP. One dev even created a TWRP flashable zip for warranty return purposes that would flash back stock recovery, erasing TWRP custom recovery.
To use those, yes you have to be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP custom recovery.
While you can use US998 on Sprint, there are two caveats which may apply to you. Three Sprint LTE bands are missing on US998 and in the past Sprint wouldn't activate a US998 phone, even though IMEI shows it was a former LS998. However, someone recently said they were able to activate a NATIVE US998 phone on Sprint, so maybe their policies have changed? Still, in the past, the method for Sprint customers was to activate Sprint service while still on LS998 firmware, then temporarily convert to US998 for bootloader unlock and root, then flash back to Sprint firmware (to get those three LTE bands back) using TWRP flashable zip -- while keeping TWRP and root. If you wanted to go back to Sprint, you would probably have to bootloader unlock, install TWRP and flash one of those dev crafted Sprint stock ROMs.
I hope I haven't confused you. There is no need for you to bootloader unlock and root just to convert to US998 to go to T-mobile. "Frankenstein" existed long before our WTF bootloader unlock and root method, to carrier unlock the Sprint LS998 and AT&T H931. Merely convert to US998 and you are carrier unlocked, have bands compatible with most other carriers, and have access to publicly released KDZ.
The LS998 was the main reason Frankenstein was created. It's a V30+ and is available very inexpensively and can be carrier unlocked very easily. Most people using it are NOT Sprint customers. Like me, they bought to convert to US998. I wrote the Frankenstein instructions and the screenshot images are from my own LS998 I bought off eBay.
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Awesome, thanks for the info, and no it didn't confuse me at all, I completely understand all of it.
On a side note I might add, that sprint and vz both detect the bootloader unlocked and will not currectly register with thier networks as long as the bootloader is unlocked.
I know this from experience, because I had a g5s plus that was rooted and worked fine on tmo, cricket, simple mobile, yet would not currectly setup and work right on sprint or on vz.
I tried flashing a stock rom and still did not work. Only when I locked the bl again did it then work fine on both networks. I got data but no calls or texts.
Since I had a very very very bad time locking the bl on that phone, and no one had a solution, it took me upwards of near 3 months to find a way to lock the bl.
Once I got the stock rom and locked the bl it works just fine with no issues at all.
I did find out from a friend that the way to have root on those networks is register it in the network THEN root it, although I was too lazy to do that so I just left it un-rooted.
That given, I just was wondering if there a simple way to relock the bootloader in case this may happen again in the future? Perhaps via fastboot commands??
As a side note, fastboot command did not work on my g5s plus sadly. It said it worked but when I rebooted nothing happened and bootloader was still unlocked. Not sure exactly why but as you can imagine it made me a bit gun shy on rooting. I've rooted a dozen or more phones in my span of phones, from the s2 and up, and the g5s plus is and was the only phone I had issues with and had a horrible time locking the bootloader.
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That given, I just was wondering if there a simple way to relock the bootloader in case this may happen again in the future? Perhaps via fastboot commands??
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Yes, bootloader is easily re-locked on US998 firmware.
Very good. Thanks so very much for all the info.
Hopefully it will just unlock via sprint and work on TMobile and I won't have to mess with anything but either way I'm ready.
Just FYI, thank you for your hard work and efforts on the tutorial on converting to us998. I greatly appreciate you and the devs and others that make it easier for us.
So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
I know if I am going to say tmo it's recommend to kdz flash the us988.
As I understand it, you can go to us988 fine without issues (normally) but to go back to sprint you need to reflash to ls988 and to do that, root is needed, which also requires bl unlock.
I tried a moto g5s plus with an unlocked bl on both sprint and vz, but in both cases I got data to work but no voice at all. After some research and trial and errors, I found out it was because the bl was unlocked, because I was flashed to stock rom. Once I locked the bl, everything worked fine. Some how sprint network detects the bl bring unlocked or the bl being unlocked makes it so the system doesn't work right with the phone, not sure. I also found out you can be root and use an unlocked bl once you are on the network, but not before.
So, that brings me to my question.
In order to use ls988, again you need root and unlocked bl, so that being the case, how would I go about using the ls988 without the bl being unlocked? Because with the bl unlocked, as stated above, calls won't work.
Is it possible to use the us988 abd bl locked, then get registered on the network, then flash the ls988?
Sorry for any confusion, I sometimes have a hard time explaining in words what's in my head.
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So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
I know if I am going to say tmo it's recommend to kdz flash the us988.
As I understand it, you can go to us988 fine without issues (normally) but to go back to sprint you need to reflash to ls988 and to do that, root is needed, which also requires bl unlock.
I tried a moto g5s plus with an unlocked bl on both sprint and vz, but in both cases I got data to work but no voice at all. After some research and trial and errors, I found out it was because the bl was unlocked, because I was flashed to stock rom. Once I locked the bl, everything worked fine. Some how sprint network detects the bl bring unlocked or the bl being unlocked makes it so the system doesn't work right with the phone, not sure. I also found out you can be root and use an unlocked bl once you are on the network, but not before.
So, that brings me to my question.
In order to use ls988, again you need root and unlocked bl, so that being the case, how would I go about using the ls988 without the bl being unlocked? Because with the bl unlocked, as stated above, calls won't work.
Is it possible to use the us988 abd bl locked, then get registered on the network, then flash the ls988?
Sorry for any confusion, I sometimes have a hard time explaining in words what's in my head.
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Yes, it's best to activate the phone on Sprint FIRST before you temporarily convert to US998, then flash back to Sprint. So that part of your question is valid.
But the rest is a little silly considering we've been rooting this phone for over 2 years now.
Of course calls/data work with a Unlocked Bootloader on all variants.
Everyone who unlocked a boot loader on the LS998 have calls and data working just fine on Sprint. And Verizon and AT&T and T-Mobile and every other carrier and the world.
Lots of Sprint people who have temporarily converted to US998, unlocked bootoader, then flash back to Sprint firmware -- keeping TWRP and root. One of our main DEVs is a Sprint customer. So your worries are totally baseless.
Why do you think we have TWRP flashable zips Sprint firmware to flash back to, if the phone couldn't be used?
By the way this is an LG not a Motorola. It's also not a Sony, which is another common question -- do to boot loader unlock issues with Sonys.
However, if you're thinking about moving to T-Mobile, then stay on US998 and go to T-Mobile. Why mess with Sprint?
Us998 on T-Mobile has VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc. Us998 has more compatible T-Mobile bands than LS998 firmware.
I've rooted almost a dozen different phones from back to the s2 days, but the moto phone threw me. I've never once had an issue with bl unlocked and being able to switch to another carrier until the moto phone, so I wasn't sure if that was a network thing or a phone thing.
With the moto it was obviously a phone thing.
Why switch to sprint instead of just staying on tmo? I guess simply put, it gives choices. Like everything in life, it's good to have choices and even if you never choose to use said choice, the fact that it's there is good, because it doesn't limit things to just a small selection. This is why we have multiple phones, and cell services to choose from, it gives a variety of things to choose from, to suit each person's needs.
I've seen people who live in a specific area and can only get one carrier because nothing else works in that area so they have to change carriers.
As for being baseless I am confused how it is baseless from a question. I never said anything about lg not working with our without the bl locked or unlocked, I simply referred to the Motorola phone and was curious if the lg phone would have the same issue I had with the moto phone.
If for some reason there is an implied statement that I am lying about the moto phone not working with the bl unlocked before it was registered on the network and the only thing I did was lock the bl, I am willing to hear why exactly it would not receive or make calls on both vz and sprint, both the exact same issue, until I locked the bl.
Nowhere in my thread did I say the lg would not work with an unlocked bl, twrp or anything else..... I was simply asking a question based on the experience I had with the moto phone (not lg or any other phone) so I am confused how that is baseless, considering I was baseing it off of the phone that did give me issues which was the moto phone, and not the lg phone.
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So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
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Why switch to sprint instead of just staying on tmo? I guess simply put, it gives choices.
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Can you make up your mind what carrier you're on right now?
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I've rooted almost a dozen different phones from back to the s2 days, but the moto phone threw me. I've never once had an issue with bl unlocked and being able to switch to another carrier until the moto phone, so I wasn't sure if that was a network thing or a phone thing.
With the moto it was obviously a phone thing.
As for being baseless I am confused how it is baseless from a question. I never said anything about lg not working with our without the bl locked or unlocked, I simply referred to the Motorola phone and was curious if the lg phone would have the same issue I had with the moto phone.
Nowhere in my thread did I say the lg would not work with an unlocked bl, twrp or anything else..... I was simply asking a question based on the experience I had with the moto phone (not lg or any other phone) so I am confused how that is baseless, considering I was baseing it off of the phone that did give me issues which was the moto phone, and not the lg phone.
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We've been bootloader unlocking and rooting these V30 phones for two years and using across all carriers. That's why I said your assumptions were baseless. This forum would not be as active as it is if we have any of the problems you were asking about. Bootloader Unlock and Root only improves V30 phones. For instance you will never have the LG DTS Surround Sound stereo framework enabled unless you bootloader unlock and root the phone. Yes, in latter Oreo LG gave use DTS libs, but then didn't enable them. But you can root and enable DTS 3D Surround stereo.
Have you even read the WTF Bootloader Unlock instructions yet? ALL the way through? Read in web browser, not an app. App seems to truncate entire sections. Section 9 talks about flashing back to your own carrier firmware -- like Sprint.
Most everybody who buys an LS998 are NOT Sprint customers and convert them to something better -- like US998 V30+ to use on AT&T, T-Mobile, Cricket, etc. or create a VS996 V30+ to use on Verizon (make sure you have an already activated Verizon SIM card). And most also Bootloader Unlock and Root their LS998 and use on other carriers. I bought a few LS998 I either converted myself or were already converted to US998. Some of these converted LS998-to-US998 I bought are being used on AT&T. My sister and brother-in-law use their converted LS998-to-US998 on Verizon.
I wrote the Frankenstein instructions and the screenshots in those instructions are from my LS998 being converted to US998.
I also wrote the WTF INSTRUCTIONS on bootloader unlock, TWRP Installation and Root. Both threads have current, up to date procedures.
Any North American variant -- EXCEPT for T-mobile H932 -- has to be on US998 firmware (at least TEMPORARILY) to bootloader unlock and root, because of the North American variants only US998 has the requisite fastboot flash commands. After bootloader unlock, TWRP installation and root, users can choose to stay on US998 firmware or use DEV-created TWRP flashable zips to flash back to their carrier firmware. Sprint users choose to flash back Sprint firmware because there are 3 LTE bands Sprint uses (for now) which US998 modems do not have. I use AT&T, but I choose to remain on Open Market US998 firmware instead of flashing back to AT&T firmware.
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Please don't bother mentioning other brands of phones in this forum. They have nothing to do with LG phones. Now, if you said you had a certain problem with Bootloader Unlock of a previous LG phone, then that would be valid concern.
You're acting like this is something people haven't done a thousand times already with V30. Even people in other countries are buying North American V30 variants and using them on their own carriers -- AFTER Bootloader Unlock and Root.
Even your thread title is somewhat confusing. Says going from US998 to LS998, don't you mean the reverse? You have LS998. You would be going from LS998 to US998 (at least temporarily).
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But to reiterate -- for Sprint customers only -- yes you should activate the native LS998 on Sprint first BEFORE doing anything else to the phone. AFTER activation on Sprint, then TEMPORARILY convert to US998 for Bootloader Unlock, TWRP and root. Follow the Frankenstein and WTF Instructions.
Then flash back Sprint firmware via TWRP flashable zip to get back Sprint LTE bands.
JohnFawkes is one of our main DEVs. He created the Sprint TWRP flashable zip. He's a Sprint customer himself.
If you fail to follow that simple guideline, yes there is also a full firmware Sprint stock zip -- which wipes out TWRP custom recovery, replacing with stock recovery. You can flash that to go back to "original" Sprint firmware. It's use for warranty exchanges, but can also be use to your phone activated on Sprint if you failed to do it prior to unlocking bootloader. After flashing this special zip, your bootloader is STILL unlocked but the phone can be activated on Sprint. THEN even though your Bootloader is unlocked, after Sprint activation you have to TEMPORARILY CONVERT back to US998 yet again (for fastboot flash commands) to reinstall TWRP... So you're wasting a lot of time and effort doing all that, when you can just activate the LS998 FIRST on Sprint before bootloader unlock and root.
HOWEVER if you are on Sprint already with your LS998 -- as your OTHER thread seems to indicate -- then your LS998 phone is already activated on Sprint. So, I'm not sure why you're asking about all that.