If I flash back to the stock firmware using the motorola sbf files, will my bootloader remain unlocked? I flashed back and flashed the unlocking sbf file. When my phone booted up it said unlocked, even though I didn't run the fastboot commands. I then ran the fastboot commands anyway and it said the bootloader was already unlocked. So will the unlocked bootloader always remain unlocked?
No. It's locked again
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it stays unlocked... despite what ^^^ said >.>
but it wont show until you just flash the pudding sbf like you did
P.S. no known way to re-lock as of yet
xepter said:
it stays unlocked... despite what ^^^ said >.>
but it wont show until you just flash the pudding sbf like you did
P.S. no known way to re-lock as of yet
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Ok, thanks. I wasn't planning on relocking, I was just curious. So next time I won't even have to flash the sbf? The sbf just makes the unlocking text show up when it boots up, but it should still allow me to do stuff like install the new CWM recovery without that, right?
Another thing, when I flashed that sbf, I didn't go into RSD mode. I was in a hurry and I forgot so I just ran the RSD program, and it detected my phone, so I clicked start. I realized later that I hadn't booted up into RSD mode...
Should I be worried? Was the RSD mode just an unnecessary precaution?
You can't relock..............it's a hardware unlock (fuse lock). When you unlock a fuse burns out, and that's end of story.
If you flash back to a different firmware the word "unlocked" will go away, but you are still unlocked. You can unlock again to make the word "unlocked" reappear on the boot screen.
EU sbf on AT&T possible?
I am going to use an unlocked AT&T Atrix in Europe.
I am on 1.83 firmware with root (made with gingerbreak to get rid of AT&T boot animation etc.).
If I go on with unlocking the bootloader, can I flash any european sbf/rom? Are there any simfree european tock sbf/rom-s out there, and which is best? What about the french 2.1.1 sbf?
I just need a stable stock firmware without the AT&T limitations, do not want changing roms all the time.
Also, do I get sw updates if I do this?
I have tried so much I am runnning 5.1.1 I really just want my cool mods. If not I am bring this phone back to att.
The Verizon, Cricket, and AT&T models are bootloader locked and are not eligible for the Moto Bootloader Unlock program. On these models, you might be able to get root via kingroot, but most of the time it disappears after a reboot and /system remains read-only.
The factory-unlocked model sold by Moto directly and via Amazon ($100) is fully GSM unlocked, has all of AT&T's bands, and can be officially bootloader unlocked and fully rooted, so you can install TWRP recovery and flash away.
I have a Moto G4 Play (XT1604). I've found a place that has a bunch of firmwares for the 1604 but they're carrier versions (VF and stuff like that). I need the stock recovery image so I can relock my bootloader and have everything back to stock, so I can get the Nougat update.
I am on the retail unlocked version from Argos (it's GB, 16GB/1GB(
tl;dr: need the stock recovery image for the same variant but only carriers come up
I'm in the same boat I've been serching the web pretty much non stop. Have you had any luck?
So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
I know if I am going to say tmo it's recommend to kdz flash the us988.
As I understand it, you can go to us988 fine without issues (normally) but to go back to sprint you need to reflash to ls988 and to do that, root is needed, which also requires bl unlock.
I tried a moto g5s plus with an unlocked bl on both sprint and vz, but in both cases I got data to work but no voice at all. After some research and trial and errors, I found out it was because the bl was unlocked, because I was flashed to stock rom. Once I locked the bl, everything worked fine. Some how sprint network detects the bl bring unlocked or the bl being unlocked makes it so the system doesn't work right with the phone, not sure. I also found out you can be root and use an unlocked bl once you are on the network, but not before.
So, that brings me to my question.
In order to use ls988, again you need root and unlocked bl, so that being the case, how would I go about using the ls988 without the bl being unlocked? Because with the bl unlocked, as stated above, calls won't work.
Is it possible to use the us988 abd bl locked, then get registered on the network, then flash the ls988?
Sorry for any confusion, I sometimes have a hard time explaining in words what's in my head.
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So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
I know if I am going to say tmo it's recommend to kdz flash the us988.
As I understand it, you can go to us988 fine without issues (normally) but to go back to sprint you need to reflash to ls988 and to do that, root is needed, which also requires bl unlock.
I tried a moto g5s plus with an unlocked bl on both sprint and vz, but in both cases I got data to work but no voice at all. After some research and trial and errors, I found out it was because the bl was unlocked, because I was flashed to stock rom. Once I locked the bl, everything worked fine. Some how sprint network detects the bl bring unlocked or the bl being unlocked makes it so the system doesn't work right with the phone, not sure. I also found out you can be root and use an unlocked bl once you are on the network, but not before.
So, that brings me to my question.
In order to use ls988, again you need root and unlocked bl, so that being the case, how would I go about using the ls988 without the bl being unlocked? Because with the bl unlocked, as stated above, calls won't work.
Is it possible to use the us988 abd bl locked, then get registered on the network, then flash the ls988?
Sorry for any confusion, I sometimes have a hard time explaining in words what's in my head.
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Yes, it's best to activate the phone on Sprint FIRST before you temporarily convert to US998, then flash back to Sprint. So that part of your question is valid.
But the rest is a little silly considering we've been rooting this phone for over 2 years now.
Of course calls/data work with a Unlocked Bootloader on all variants.
Everyone who unlocked a boot loader on the LS998 have calls and data working just fine on Sprint. And Verizon and AT&T and T-Mobile and every other carrier and the world.
Lots of Sprint people who have temporarily converted to US998, unlocked bootoader, then flash back to Sprint firmware -- keeping TWRP and root. One of our main DEVs is a Sprint customer. So your worries are totally baseless.
Why do you think we have TWRP flashable zips Sprint firmware to flash back to, if the phone couldn't be used?
By the way this is an LG not a Motorola. It's also not a Sony, which is another common question -- do to boot loader unlock issues with Sonys.
However, if you're thinking about moving to T-Mobile, then stay on US998 and go to T-Mobile. Why mess with Sprint?
Us998 on T-Mobile has VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc. Us998 has more compatible T-Mobile bands than LS998 firmware.
I've rooted almost a dozen different phones from back to the s2 days, but the moto phone threw me. I've never once had an issue with bl unlocked and being able to switch to another carrier until the moto phone, so I wasn't sure if that was a network thing or a phone thing.
With the moto it was obviously a phone thing.
Why switch to sprint instead of just staying on tmo? I guess simply put, it gives choices. Like everything in life, it's good to have choices and even if you never choose to use said choice, the fact that it's there is good, because it doesn't limit things to just a small selection. This is why we have multiple phones, and cell services to choose from, it gives a variety of things to choose from, to suit each person's needs.
I've seen people who live in a specific area and can only get one carrier because nothing else works in that area so they have to change carriers.
As for being baseless I am confused how it is baseless from a question. I never said anything about lg not working with our without the bl locked or unlocked, I simply referred to the Motorola phone and was curious if the lg phone would have the same issue I had with the moto phone.
If for some reason there is an implied statement that I am lying about the moto phone not working with the bl unlocked before it was registered on the network and the only thing I did was lock the bl, I am willing to hear why exactly it would not receive or make calls on both vz and sprint, both the exact same issue, until I locked the bl.
Nowhere in my thread did I say the lg would not work with an unlocked bl, twrp or anything else..... I was simply asking a question based on the experience I had with the moto phone (not lg or any other phone) so I am confused how that is baseless, considering I was baseing it off of the phone that did give me issues which was the moto phone, and not the lg phone.
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So I've read some on the Frankenstein thread, and I decide to go that route I'll follow that thread.
I have not switched carriers as of yet so I am on sprint still.
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easyrider77 said:
Why switch to sprint instead of just staying on tmo? I guess simply put, it gives choices.
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Can you make up your mind what carrier you're on right now?
easyrider77 said:
I've rooted almost a dozen different phones from back to the s2 days, but the moto phone threw me. I've never once had an issue with bl unlocked and being able to switch to another carrier until the moto phone, so I wasn't sure if that was a network thing or a phone thing.
With the moto it was obviously a phone thing.
As for being baseless I am confused how it is baseless from a question. I never said anything about lg not working with our without the bl locked or unlocked, I simply referred to the Motorola phone and was curious if the lg phone would have the same issue I had with the moto phone.
Nowhere in my thread did I say the lg would not work with an unlocked bl, twrp or anything else..... I was simply asking a question based on the experience I had with the moto phone (not lg or any other phone) so I am confused how that is baseless, considering I was baseing it off of the phone that did give me issues which was the moto phone, and not the lg phone.
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We've been bootloader unlocking and rooting these V30 phones for two years and using across all carriers. That's why I said your assumptions were baseless. This forum would not be as active as it is if we have any of the problems you were asking about. Bootloader Unlock and Root only improves V30 phones. For instance you will never have the LG DTS Surround Sound stereo framework enabled unless you bootloader unlock and root the phone. Yes, in latter Oreo LG gave use DTS libs, but then didn't enable them. But you can root and enable DTS 3D Surround stereo.
Have you even read the WTF Bootloader Unlock instructions yet? ALL the way through? Read in web browser, not an app. App seems to truncate entire sections. Section 9 talks about flashing back to your own carrier firmware -- like Sprint.
Most everybody who buys an LS998 are NOT Sprint customers and convert them to something better -- like US998 V30+ to use on AT&T, T-Mobile, Cricket, etc. or create a VS996 V30+ to use on Verizon (make sure you have an already activated Verizon SIM card). And most also Bootloader Unlock and Root their LS998 and use on other carriers. I bought a few LS998 I either converted myself or were already converted to US998. Some of these converted LS998-to-US998 I bought are being used on AT&T. My sister and brother-in-law use their converted LS998-to-US998 on Verizon.
I wrote the Frankenstein instructions and the screenshots in those instructions are from my LS998 being converted to US998.
I also wrote the WTF INSTRUCTIONS on bootloader unlock, TWRP Installation and Root. Both threads have current, up to date procedures.
Any North American variant -- EXCEPT for T-mobile H932 -- has to be on US998 firmware (at least TEMPORARILY) to bootloader unlock and root, because of the North American variants only US998 has the requisite fastboot flash commands. After bootloader unlock, TWRP installation and root, users can choose to stay on US998 firmware or use DEV-created TWRP flashable zips to flash back to their carrier firmware. Sprint users choose to flash back Sprint firmware because there are 3 LTE bands Sprint uses (for now) which US998 modems do not have. I use AT&T, but I choose to remain on Open Market US998 firmware instead of flashing back to AT&T firmware.
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Please don't bother mentioning other brands of phones in this forum. They have nothing to do with LG phones. Now, if you said you had a certain problem with Bootloader Unlock of a previous LG phone, then that would be valid concern.
You're acting like this is something people haven't done a thousand times already with V30. Even people in other countries are buying North American V30 variants and using them on their own carriers -- AFTER Bootloader Unlock and Root.
Even your thread title is somewhat confusing. Says going from US998 to LS998, don't you mean the reverse? You have LS998. You would be going from LS998 to US998 (at least temporarily).
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But to reiterate -- for Sprint customers only -- yes you should activate the native LS998 on Sprint first BEFORE doing anything else to the phone. AFTER activation on Sprint, then TEMPORARILY convert to US998 for Bootloader Unlock, TWRP and root. Follow the Frankenstein and WTF Instructions.
Then flash back Sprint firmware via TWRP flashable zip to get back Sprint LTE bands.
JohnFawkes is one of our main DEVs. He created the Sprint TWRP flashable zip. He's a Sprint customer himself.
If you fail to follow that simple guideline, yes there is also a full firmware Sprint stock zip -- which wipes out TWRP custom recovery, replacing with stock recovery. You can flash that to go back to "original" Sprint firmware. It's use for warranty exchanges, but can also be use to your phone activated on Sprint if you failed to do it prior to unlocking bootloader. After flashing this special zip, your bootloader is STILL unlocked but the phone can be activated on Sprint. THEN even though your Bootloader is unlocked, after Sprint activation you have to TEMPORARILY CONVERT back to US998 yet again (for fastboot flash commands) to reinstall TWRP... So you're wasting a lot of time and effort doing all that, when you can just activate the LS998 FIRST on Sprint before bootloader unlock and root.
HOWEVER if you are on Sprint already with your LS998 -- as your OTHER thread seems to indicate -- then your LS998 phone is already activated on Sprint. So, I'm not sure why you're asking about all that.
Do they mean network unlocking or bootloader unlock? Has anyone been successful in unlocking their bootloader on this website?
I have this device and it's for cricket and it says not a supported device at the Motorola website. So tho I have the twrp I can't flash it until I unlock my bootloader which I pray someone can get around. That's what you guys do fingers crossed....but until there's a way to unlock my bootloader I have to look at the twrp and root images without being able to use them or root ....someone told me you can flash a different bootloader so I figured someone with the same Motorola G Power 2021 but different carrier can provide you their firmware and images for boot and so on. Plz help thanks again and Merry Xmas to all
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I have this device and it's for cricket and it says not a supported device at the Motorola website. So tho I have the twrp I can't flash it until I unlock my bootloader which I pray someone can get around. That's what you guys do fingers crossed....but until there's a way to unlock my bootloader I have to look at the twrp and root images without being able to use them or root ....someone told me you can flash a different bootloader so I figured someone with the same Motorola G Power 2021 but different carrier can provide you their firmware and images for boot and so on. Plz help thanks again and Merry Xmas to all
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You could always download the firmware from other moto builds and variants on the lolinet site. The problem is you will most likely brick your device attempting to flash, if you're even able to, or using RSA to trick it into recovering a build not designed for your phone. I'm not experienced with Cricket devices, but I'm assuming since they are based on ATT network that they are not eligible for bootloader unlocking. Though that's a huge guess on my part since that normally is up to the carrier and both ATT and Verizon find much of their purpose executing their right to do so to their hearts content.
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Do they mean network unlocking or bootloader unlock? Has anyone been successful in unlocking their bootloader on this website?
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That website talks about "network unlocking" as you call it. Not bootloader unlocking.