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Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
vettejock99 said:
Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
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The answer is yes, you can do that... the phone will work for E911 calls without being activated. You can also unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM and everything else like you said, although the Rezound is a little more complicated than to S-OFF than just using a toolkit it is doable with some homework and a little Linux knowledge, but to be honest, GSM works fine (Edge data only, 3G/4G higher possible with significant tweaking on some GSM carriers) on the stock 4.5.605.14 ROM.
If you know you will likely be activating this on a GSM carrier, why not get a phone designed for that right off the bat? Several unlocked GSM phones can be purchased for around the same price as the Rez, like the Galaxy Nexus, Sony Xperia S, HTC Sensation, Samsung GS2 GT-I9100 or similar phones. Don't get me wrong, I love the Rezound, but for ease of use on a GSM carrier with full 3G data you migh be better off looking at a phone suited to that purpose.
Yes, it's doable, just know what you are in for...
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
vettejock99 said:
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
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Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
acejavelin said:
Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
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Excellent points. Yeah, I had a S3 on PP for a while and it was a pain - actually CDMA overall is a pain to me so I probably won't do it. Per your advice - looking for an extended battery right now!
So it looks like you can't use this phone on an active Verizon account. I've been dealing with their customer support all day and it seems like they don't allow for the phone to be used on their networks other than pre paid. Really a bummer as I wanted to replace my broken phone with this one. It seems like a really great phone so far just using it on wifi. :crying:
If you have a Moto E which works on ATT or TMO, shall we swap? I just got this device (XT1528) from Verizon thinking I could use it on T-Mobile. Turns out I can't.
I agree its a great phone, but not when its on a different network!
I think this is the first time I have posted, even though I have been using xda for years. Anyway I bought this LG G3 from Swappa and low and behold it has an unpaid bill tied to it and cannot be activated with Ting and I don't have a Sprint account. I have no need to activate it since I use WiFi for everything. So I decided to keep it since I got a good deal and didn't want to wait to return and buy another for $50 more. Right now I am stock and have not attempted to root the device. I have rooted every other phone I have had, due to the software being really bad or outdated. This is the first phone I have had every had where I actually like the stock ROM that came with it(probably because of Lolipop and LG really taking Googles design sense.
My problem is that even though I keep the device in Airplane mode with WiFi on, the device of course attempts to connect to a network every time I power on.(I have to click emergency call and then home) Also the Sprint Data optimizer is using about 20% of my battery, probably searching for service it will never find.
So my question is, If I do decide to root the device. What would be the best ROM to use for my situation of no service? I prefer Stock Roms unless AOSP has a remote control, which I don't believe it does. Also do I really need to care whether I am on zv8 or zv4 since I do not have a connection to a network?
Also. Is there anyway to possibly get T-Mobile service on the LG G3 Sprint Variant? Even if it is a slow data connection.
Thank you if anyone has any answers to any of my questions.
(Check other post)
You can flash this ROM for GSM and check HERE for the remote stuff and other mods and tweaks.
@Ry42025
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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You'll get Verizon VoLTE -- but not Wi-Fi nor video calling.
Yes, you can have Verizon voicemail.
Those answers are based on the carrier unlocked LG G6 US997 released earlier this year, from people who have it and use Verizon. You should go over there and ask some questions. That will be the best predictor of the LG V30 US998.
I pasted some of the answers from actual users below.
jiggyman said:
I received mine and activated it yesterday. VoLTE works perfectly. No Video/WiFi Calling though. I love this phone! No bloatware!
Sent from my LGUS997 using Tapatalk
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VOICEMAIL
gillim74 said:
How do you get verizon vm working on the us997 everytuing else works but vm
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htcnext said:
Getting unlocked phones working on Verizon is still more difficult than it should be. Hypothesis: reps at the local stores don't get a commission on unlocked activations and do get commissions on carrier phones. If you want to avoid technical stuff suggest calling Verizon and threatening to switch to T-Mobile if they can't get it to work, do not go to local stores.
Regarding voicemail, I went with youmail from the play store. You might also be able to get the Verizon voicemail app working, I did not try that since I do not want any lame carrier apps on the device.
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gillim74 said:
Thanks for the response.got it working after calling verizon!!
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duke69111 said:
What did you have to do to get the VVM working on VZW? Thanks.
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gillim74 said:
Had to call them and have them reset the network
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Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Regarding the fm radio. My Verizon branded G6 has the fm radio enabled, you just need to plug in headphones. It works with NextRadio and the LG radio app that I know of. The Verizon version needed files pulled and edited from xda forums to get LG's app working as it does not come with it preinstalled. It wasn't hard to install. An install of NextRadio from the play store just worked. The unlocked version probably includes the LG fm app. NextRadio is pretty snazzy, while the LG App is pretty bland and basic.
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
johnp357 said:
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
ChazzMatt said:
Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
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LOL.... trust me. viper4android, hotspots, trying all sorts of mods, and yes messing with kernels, changing OS every other week... battery life will get shot... every time, so yes it will... just comes with the territory.
regardless of how you try to fine tune the kernel to conserve. but I'm ok with all of it. I will just be bummed not to get the $200 card and the VR thing. So I guess I have to decide in the next 6 days how important hotspot is vs $300 worth of stuff.
johnp357 said:
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
wonderrx said:
Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
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no. it did not. I'm jimmy rigging it by using the wifi extender to trick the hotspot to working but it requires that you connect to a wifi first. data isn't needed on the connect. it's hokey but works almost all the time. so I am now content. LG disabler squashed everything else so the phone is pretty snappy.
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
al4d said:
Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
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I have friends who are required to have carrier-branded phones and who cannot root. That's a well written post I'll share with them.
As for color choice I'm hoping LG will sell us the "open market" US988 in black V30+ configuration (or V30+ at all), but I'm becoming skeptical.
Interesting counterpoint, al4d.
There's also the matter of OS update timeliness. And security updates -- do they ever come from the the manufacturer? It seems like only carrier-specific releases get the media buzz.
Lastly, I'm sort of holding out for the Oreo release, just to ensure LG put all their best efforts into it. It would be a shame if 8.0 lands and it's a half-baked mess full of bugs.
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
When I hacked from US998 to VS996, I saw there were more "bars" being shown. Note, however, that "bars" can be changed to reflect different signal levels, so it may not actually be getting more/less signal. If I were careful, I would have looked at the numeric signal, but I missed checking that.
I'm running VS996 on our phones now, partly because of the VoLTE support as well... and all of that is working, so that's good.
I don't think you can flash just a "modem"... but I am interested to hear if this can be done...
Diego1751 said:
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
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Oreo now locks you out of APN settings (it knows what best, supposedly) but you can use an app Shortcut Master or Shortcut Master Lite to manually edit APN settings. Here's how to edit APN using that app. Of course that is NOT the V30 -- but it's still the same technique, and you would want to populate with your own APN information, not what they are using for their carrier. Here are instructions for Verizon on LG V30, at least for MMS.
As for modems, I know there are AT&T and Sprint TWRP flashable modems posted, but not sure about Verizon. You can fire up LGUP and manually flash VS996 modem partitions via DL Partition method, if you want to try that modem. Just UNcheck all partitions except for modems.
Good day,
I am a proud owner of a LG V20 H910 AT&T for about four years now.
Bought it back in early 2018 refurbished from ebay for about US$185.
I got very good service from this, I learned alot about roms, scripts, etc...
these are the issues I faced...
Very recently, phone started turning off when the battery is around or below 40%
After further investigation and cleaning the contacts, the battery seems to be swollen slightly.
Sometimes I can run it until below 20% until it powers down.
Lately I see it takes a long time to charge from this point.
The phone mic stopped working and gives of static noise/feedback to other caller until you switch to speakerphone then it works fine. This is for mobile calls and whatsapp/duo.
The headphone jack seems to short and stop music and activate google assistant every now and again.
This doesn't happen to all headphones, only some. If you don't move the phone or the cable, it works fine.
Download mode loads, but you get static on screen, tried reflashing with my stock and others but same.
Other than these problems, I totally love my v20 and it is still going.
I wanted to buy either a v50/v60/G8x.
I see LG is no longer making V series.
I like to tinker with mods and roms, what do you recommend
my max budget is ~US$220 and I see I can get these on ebay.
The main thing i like about my v20 is the dac, I use the force high impedance mode as I use it as a music player in my car's Hi-Fi. Is this possible on these units?
I want to go for the v60, what version TMO, Verizon, AT&T?,
I am on Digicel in Trinidad & Tobago. so this doesn't matter but what is the best version to buy for unlocking and future mods/dev.?
I remembered when I got the AT&T version of my v20, it never came with the Music app, and I only recently solved that issue.
Skylined said:
Good day,
I am a proud owner of a LG V20 H910 AT&T for about four years now.
Bought it back in early 2018 refurbished from ebay for about US$185.
I got very good service from this, I learned alot about roms, scripts, etc...
these are the issues I faced...
Very recently, phone started turning off when the battery is around or below 40%
After further investigation and cleaning the contacts, the battery seems to be swollen slightly.
Sometimes I can run it until below 20% until it powers down.
Lately I see it takes a long time to charge from this point.
The phone mic stopped working and gives of static noise/feedback to other caller until you switch to speakerphone then it works fine. This is for mobile calls and whatsapp/duo.
The headphone jack seems to short and stop music and activate google assistant every now and again.
This doesn't happen to all headphones, only some. If you don't move the phone or the cable, it works fine.
Download mode loads, but you get static on screen, tried reflashing with my stock and others but same.
Other than these problems, I totally love my v20 and it is still going.
I wanted to buy either a v50/v60/G8x.
I see LG is no longer making V series.
I like to tinker with mods and roms, what do you recommend
my max budget is ~US$220 and I see I can get these on ebay.
The main thing i like about my v20 is the dac, I use the force high impedance mode as I use it as a music player in my car's Hi-Fi. Is this possible on these units?
I want to go for the v60, what version TMO, Verizon, AT&T?,
I am on Digicel in Trinidad & Tobago. so this doesn't matter but what is the best version to buy for unlocking and future mods/dev.?
I remembered when I got the AT&T version of my v20, it never came with the Music app, and I only recently solved that issue.
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Personally I went with the U.S. Cellular unlocked version.Or,you can go with the T-Mobile version.Prefer it be unlocked,and the reason I say those 2 is because at least the firmware is downloadable unlike the AT&T version.But,there is a Qfil copy of the AT&T version in the Q&A post.From my readings they're all IMPL locked and I haven't found away around that yet.
I would like to know too. coming from a v40 that i bought for $300 and it lasted 4 years... I hope to do a similar run with the v60.
Not too worried about updating past android 11. But it does kinda suck the security updates stop at June 2021. My v40 is stuck at 8/20, and I'm already noticing some apps dont work with Biometric anymore.
It took many years before the v40 was finally moddadable to lineage... and I'm sure someone will figure out the v60, but I also worry that WIFI calling won't work if it ever gets lineage.
That said, if I am on ATT, and want to use WIFI calling, I should buy an ATT branded model, correct? If I buy a global model, and run it on ATT, it likely won't work with WIFI calling?
resiny said:
I would like to know too. coming from a v40 that i bought for $300 and it lasted 4 years... I hope to do a similar run with the v60.
Not too worried about updating past android 11. But it does kinda suck the security updates stop at June 2021. My v40 is stuck at 8/20, and I'm already noticing some apps dont work with Biometric anymore.
It took many years before the v40 was finally moddadable to lineage... and I'm sure someone will figure out the v60, but I also worry that WIFI calling won't work if it ever gets lineage.
That said, if I am on ATT, and want to use WIFI calling, I should buy an ATT branded model, correct? If I buy a global model, and run it on ATT, it likely won't work with WIFI calling?
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Yes,if you're on AT&T most definitely get the AT&T branded v60.With my V60 USC device it wouldn't make or receive any calls when the 3g shutdown hit.I had to cross flash my V60 with a Luns backup and that's the only way it would dial in and out again.I even went in to the engineering menu and enabled all the settings perfect for VoLTE and it still wouldn't call out.It's not IMEI specific either.I'm still trying to figure a work around for it,but nothing as of yet.
Ok. I just bought the lm-600am version