Panic Mode!!! - AT&T HTC One (M8)

This is maybe my 30th android phone and ive rooted them all. Tried rooting this one this morning using the windroid toolkit for most things. Got to twrp and tried to flash an ssu.zip I had on my computer that I used for all my other phones. Flash failed and before rebooting twrp asked did I want to install superuser, I swiped to flash it and the phone rebooted. Now it boots but gets stuck on the "htc one powered by android" screen. Volume down+power combination isn't working but Volume up+power is. What do I do??? I need to get my phone back working asap. Bootloader is unlocked so RUU is kinda obsolete right now so what else? If I HAVE to RUU, how do I relock the bootloader in this state?

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I relocked it but it still hangs on the htc screen. Downloaded the latest ruu from htc and its not wo. Setup utility will finish and itll go to the agreement page I agree, and itll just close and nothing will happen. At this point I don't care what I have to do but I need this working.

Nvm I got it working! But still wassup with this ruu not running? I don't need it now but would be nice to use it properly shall I need to in the future

NexusS4gFreak said:
Nvm I got it working! But still wassup with this ruu not running?
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Getting hung on the "Agreement" screen is usually a fault of your PC. Windows version may be the problem. Win10 is very problematic (although a few have mentioned the newer RUUs, with the Stagefright patch work on Win10) and Win8 can be gamey, as well. Win7 is the most reliable.
Also, if you have USB 3.0 ports, the RUU likely won't work.
Additionally, try to re-install HTC Sync. Or even try to uninstall it, and see if there is any difference.
You might download the RUU again, to make sure it wasn't corrupted during download. But as mentioned, your RUU issue is usually a matter of the PC.

redpoint73 said:
Getting hung on the "Agreement" screen is usually a fault of your PC. Windows version may be the problem. Win10 is very problematic (although a few have mentioned the newer RUUs, with the Stagefright patch work on Win10) and Win8 can be gamey, as well. Win7 is the most reliable.
Also, if you have USB 3.0 ports, the RUU likely won't work.
Additionally, try to re-install HTC Sync. Or even try to uninstall it, and see if there is any difference.
You might download the RUU again, to make sure it wasn't corrupted during download. But as mentioned, your RUU issue is usually a matter of the PC.
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Thanks for the reply. Lol all the pc's in my house run Windows 10 and I have a Mac so probably skrewed. Abs they all also have 3.0 ports. Dammit well now I know, thanks man I'll just buy a new laptop ig
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Tried rooting this one this morning using the windroid toolkit for most things. Got to twrp and tried to flash an ssu.zip I had on my computer that I used for all my other phones. Flash failed and before rebooting twrp asked did I want to install superuser, I swiped to flash it and the phone rebooted. Now it boots but gets stuck on the "htc one powered by android" screen.
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Ditch the toolkits, and just do the operations "manually" by fastboot.
The toolkits haven't been updated in over a year, and therefore are missing a lot of updates that will cause major problems. First, the toolkits install old versions of TWRP, that don't work on Lollipop. Also, the toolkits try to root with old versions of SuperSU, which also no longer work.
If you manually downloaded SuperSU, make sure its the current version (2.46). Anything older than 2.44 or so, have not been updated to root Lollipop.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Volume down+power combination isn't working but Volume up+power is. What do I do???
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Power + vol down only works under very certain circumstance, if at all.
What virtually always works, as long as the phone is not bricked:
1) Hold Power+ vol up until the screen goes black (indicating a reboot). Depending on the phone's condition this may take around 10 seconds (most cases) or up to a minute or more (such as black screen, yellow LED).
2) The moment the screen goes dark, let go of the buttons, and only hold vol down. Hold it, and down't let go until the bootloader screen appears.
3) If the above did not work, its due to user error (timing) and the likely result is that the phone will boot into OS (if its able to) or get stuck on the boot splash screen (white screen with HTC logo). Either you didn't start pressing vol down soon enough (you have about 3 seconds to do so) or you let go of it too early.
Other users have mentioned a tip to get the timing right: plug the phone to your PC, and you will hear a "disconnect" phone from the PC indicating the phone has powered off. That is your indication to let go of power+vol up, and start holding vol down.

redpoint73 said:
Ditch the toolkits, and just do the operations "manually" by fastboot.
The toolkits haven't been updated in over a year, and therefore are missing a lot of updates that will cause major problems. First, the toolkits install old versions of TWRP, that don't work on Lollipop. Also, the toolkits try to root with old versions of SuperSU, which also no longer work.
If you manually downloaded SuperSU, make sure its the current version (2.46). Anything older than 2.44 or so, have not been updated to root Lollipop.
Power + vol down only works under very certain circumstance, if at all.
What virtually always works, as long as the phone is not bricked:
1) Hold Power+ vol up until the screen goes black (indicating a reboot). Depending on the phone's condition this may take around 10 seconds (most cases) or up to a minute or more (such as black screen, yellow LED).
2) The moment the screen goes dark, let go of the buttons, and only hold vol down. Hold it, and down't let go until the bootloader screen appears.
3) If the above did not work, its due to user error (timing) and the likely result is that the phone will boot into OS (if its able to) or get stuck on the boot splash screen (white screen with HTC logo). Either you didn't start pressing vol down soon enough (you have about 3 seconds to do so) or you let go of it too early.
Other users have mentioned a tip to get the timing right: plug the phone to your PC, and you will hear a "disconnect" phone from the PC indicating the phone has powered off. That is your indication to let go of power+vol up, and start holding vol down.
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I was able to get everything sorted, the toolkit worked until root flash. What I did was downloaded supersu from his sight manually and transferred It to my phone. Flashed twrp again through the toolkit and booted into twrp, flshed the proper version of root and everything booted up perfectly. Guessing what happened was when I flashed the wrong su version and it failed the system was still unmounted so it couldn't boot into it until the system was properly remounted.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Thanks for the reply. Lol all the pc's in my house run Windows 10 and I have a Mac so probably skrewed. Abs they all also have 3.0 ports. Dammit well now I know, thanks man I'll just buy a new laptop ig
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Another user mentioned you can shut off USB 3.0 in the PC's settings, but I'm not that familiar with that process. You might also check to see if some ports are still USB 2.0, as its not uncommon that is the case (that only certain ports are equipped with USB 3.0). But probably less common on newer computers.
Also, you said you are using the most recent RUU, without giving the version number (best to be specific as possible). Confirm the RUU is 4.28.502.2 (the RUU that contains the Stagefright patch, just released last month) as at least one user reported that the RUU with Stagefright patch worked on his Win10 PC. Although I'm pretty sure that was for another CID version, so with the new AT&T RUU, your results may vary. But its at least worth a try.
RUU 4.28.502.1 released (I believe) in April will most likely not work on Win10 (as reported by lots of folks).
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Flashed twrp again through the toolkit and booted into twrp
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FYI, if your phone is on Lollipop, and you ever try to flash a custom ROM with that version of TWRP, it will fail. And I'm not sure how well other functions work, like making and restoring nandroid backups will work with that outdated TWRP version. I recommend updating to the proper version, which can be obtained from the TWRP website: https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
Again, I would strongly advise you to stop using the outdated toolkits, and just do the functions manually with fastboot. At this point, the toolkits cause more problems than they solve.

redpoint73 said:
Another user mentioned you can shut off USB 3.0 in the PC's settings, but I'm not that familiar with that process. You might also check to see if some ports are still USB 2.0, as its not uncommon that is the case (that only certain ports are equipped with USB 3.0). But probably less common on newer computers.
Also, you said you are using the most recent RUU, without giving the version number (best to be specific as possible). Confirm the RUU is 4.28.502.2 (the RUU that contains the Stagefright patch, just released last month) as at least one user reported that the RUU with Stagefright patch worked on his Win10 PC. Although I'm pretty sure that was for another CID version, so with the new AT&T RUU, your results may vary. But its at least worth a try.
RUU 4.28.502.1 released (I believe) in April will most likely not work on Win10 (as reported by lots of folks).
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FYI, if your phone is on Lollipop, and you ever try to flash a custom ROM with that version of TWRP, it will fail. And I'm not sure how well other functions, like making and restoring nandroid backups will work with that outdated TWRP version. I recommend updating to the proper version, which can be obtained from the TWRP website: https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
Again, I would strongly advise you to stop using the outdated toolkits, and just do the functions manually with fastboot. At this point, the toolkits cause more problems than they solve.
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Whatever version the toolkit installed works perfect, already flashed viper ROM yesterday
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Whatever version the toolkit installed works perfect, already flashed viper ROM yesterday
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And it was the latest .2 update with stagefright patch
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Whatever version the toolkit installed works perfect, already flashed viper ROM yesterday
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That is very surprising.
What is your current firmware number (main version), and what version Viper?

redpoint73 said:
That is very surprising.
What is your current firmware number (main version), and what version Viper?
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That latest from att 4.28.502.2 and viper 4.6.0 from the m9 port
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fastboot issues

i need some help. i just bought my htc one tonight, and of course the first thing i want to do after i turn it on is root. but i can't get fastboot to recognize it. i've reinstalled the drivers a few times, googled my heart out, and can't seem to come up with an answer.
now before a lynch mob starts, please, i'm very frustrated, and i'm fighting the urge to just throw the phone into the wall. (at this point i think it's the only thing i haven't tried).
i read somewhere about firmware and windows 8.1 (which i'm on). my phone is still on 4.1.2. i think i read 4.3 is the only one that works with windows 8.1. but there are no updates available to me.
i greatly appreciate any help here. it's such a let down to get a shiny new phone, and being stuck... once i figure out the fastboot problem i should be good to go. i want to say i had this problem a while back with my htc one x, but it was so long ago i don't remember how i fixed it. in the middle there i switched to the s3 and that rooted without a hitch.
i don't know what i did but the phone magically decided now it wants to do the att update, it's downloading pretty slow but i'll see what happens.
ck4794 said:
i need some help. i just bought my htc one tonight, and of course the first thing i want to do after i turn it on is root. but i can't get fastboot to recognize it. i've reinstalled the drivers a few times, googled my heart out, and can't seem to come up with an answer.
now before a lynch mob starts, please, i'm very frustrated, and i'm fighting the urge to just throw the phone into the wall. (at this point i think it's the only thing i haven't tried).
i read somewhere about firmware and windows 8.1 (which i'm on). my phone is still on 4.1.2. i think i read 4.3 is the only one that works with windows 8.1. but there are no updates available to me.
i greatly appreciate any help here. it's such a let down to get a shiny new phone, and being stuck... once i figure out the fastboot problem i should be good to go. i want to say i had this problem a while back with my htc one x, but it was so long ago i don't remember how i fixed it. in the middle there i switched to the s3 and that rooted without a hitch.
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Im sure you did this, but did you make sure in HBOOT its highlighted in red "FASTBOOT USB"? And you are in the platform tools folder of the android sdk? How about ADB? Does "adb devices" (Without quotations) work?
Let me know.
GalaxyUser50 said:
Im sure you did this, but did you make sure in HBOOT its highlighted in red "FASTBOOT USB"? And you are in the platform tools folder of the android sdk? How about ADB? Does "adb devices" (Without quotations) work?
Let me know.
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i haven't gotten there yet. still trying to do the update. for some reason i can only download 10 or 15 mb at a time. it seems like it's timing out, maybe losing connection. after a restart it downloads for a while again. so basically it's going to be a loooong night to get this update done. and some prayer that the update is not corrupted.
ck4794 said:
i haven't gotten there yet. still trying to do the update. for some reason i can only download 10 or 15 mb at a time. it seems like it's timing out, maybe losing connection. after a restart it downloads for a while again. so basically it's going to be a loooong night to get this update done. and some prayer that the update is not corrupted.
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Are you trying this on wifi or data?
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i haven't gotten there yet. still trying to do the update. for some reason i can only download 10 or 15 mb at a time. it seems like it's timing out, maybe losing connection. after a restart it downloads for a while again. so basically it's going to be a loooong night to get this update done. and some prayer that the update is not corrupted.
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you need to s-off your phone before taking that update !!!
and you need a windows 8 or windows 7 PC ... you'll never get fastboot on windows 8.1 and hboot 1.44.000 might as well give up on that.
clsA said:
you need to s-off your phone before taking that update !!!
and you need a windows 8 or windows 7 PC ... you'll never get fastboot on windows 8.1 and hboot 1.44.000 might as well give up on that.
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no that seemed to do the trick. installed the update this morning. the phone is now on 4.3 and fastboot works just fine.
ck4794 said:
no that seemed to do the trick. installed the update this morning. the phone is now on 4.3 and fastboot works just fine.
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ok good ...try rumrunner if you want s-off
clsA said:
ok good ...try rumrunner if you want s-off
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thanks. it's been a hot minute since i've had an htc phone, can you remind me why i would want s-off after i already have the device rooted?
ck4794 said:
thanks. it's been a hot minute since i've had an htc phone, can you remind me why i would want s-off after i already have the device rooted?
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This pretty well sums it up
S-OFF – What And Why?
In their devices, HTC have installed a sort of security check whose level is determined by S-OFF/S-ON. Essentially, this security level is a flag stored on the device’s radio that checks signature images for any firmware before it is allowed to be written to system memory. This hinders using any custom ROMs, splash images, recovery etc., and also restricts access to the NAND flash memory. However, when security level is set to S-OFF, the signature check is bypassed, allowing a user to upload custom firmware images, unsigned boot, recovery, splash and HBOOT images, as well as official firmware that has been modified, this enabling maximum customization of your HTC Android device.
Furthermore, S-OFF also reduces restrictions on accessing the NAND flash memory on the device, allowing all partitions (including /system) to be mounted in write mode while the operating system is booted.
Source: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
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[Q] Prompted daily for same OTA update?

I have a stock rom evo 4g LTE, rooted, with Android 4.0.3 on it.
I forget the root app I used, some one click thingy, I guess my bootloader is unlocked
because I get a boot menu every time I reboot, on that screen that says **TAMPERED**.
Anyway, I ignored the notification icon in my taskbar for OTA updates, for a very long time.
Since the day I bought it over a year ago.
Finally I decided "eh, screw it, why not." ...I'm sure I'll regret that.
I told it to do the OTA update, and it downloaded (I think??) and rebooted.
The icon went away. Seemed to be a done deal.
But once per day since then, my phone rings, and I see a prompt saying
there's an OTA update, and would I like to install it now?
I think it's the same OTA update being prompted repeatdly,
because the filesize is always the same (~42 megs).
What should I do? I can choose install, reboot, and be fine for the rest of the day,
or choose cancel, reboot, and be fine for the rest of the day.
Doesn't seem to matter. But would be nice to fix it for good.
Well, considering that you are about 4-5 OTAs behind the rest of the community, I would say that the notification is probably correct. HOWEVER, of you are not using the stock recovery, then the OTA did not flash. Yes, the phone rebooted, but that's because it is installed entirely through recovery, and the phone has to reboot to get into recovery mode in the first place.
Now, for the more important question at hand....why exactly are you still using ICS? Furthermore, if you are still using ICS, then why are you rooted? As far as I'm concerned, the OTAs are actually necessary updates for the phone. I'm sure that you will love Jelly Bean if you have never used it before.
And please, for the sake of us all who are cringing at the sight of the first sentence....PLEASE UPDATE your phone! If you have a good reason not to, please share.
Hi, thanks for the reply... Maybe they were all different updates after all.
I haven't been prompted to update again since my post.
Maybe I grabbed the 3 or 4 OTA updates that I needed to catch up on.
I do think I'd like Jelly Bean too, seeing some of the features is what prompted me to finally catch up.
Can you explain this part to me? I'm not familiar with this stuff.
HOWEVER, of you are not using the stock recovery, then the OTA did not flash.
Yes, the phone rebooted, but that's because it is installed entirely through recovery,
and the phone has to reboot to get into recovery mode in the first place.
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So, there's more than one recovery mode, the stock one, and ...whatever else you can install?
When I see the white screen that says **TAMPERED** (looks basically like this screen)...
should I have chosen Recovery instead of the usual reboot option?
If I no longer see the notification, does that mean the updates worked? My Android version still shows 4.0.3.
why exactly are you still using ICS? Furthermore, if you are still using ICS, then why are you rooted?
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Well, I had no compelling reason to upgrade. I still don't really, the phone does what I want,
I just saw some of the features in the next version and thought "huh, that sounds pretty cool".
I'm rooted for all the usual reasons... I want to be able to browse, copy, move, rename files (including system files)
without incident... use nandroid for backups... wifi tether (still can't get that to work actually)... install unapproved apps...
tweak the OS, and so on.
Ok, my friend...let me educate you. Instead of giving you the simplest, fastest solution, I will actually try to answer all of your questions, since you did ask.
I do think I'd like Jelly Bean too, seeing some of the features is what prompted me to finally catch up.
Can you explain this part to me? I'm not familiar with this stuff.
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To give a very superficial explanation of Jelly Bean, it is everything that ICS does, and more. It just does it smoother. It also brings Google Now, which was – and still is – the selling point of Jelly Bean. The Sense launcher got a few changes, too, but you will have to explore those changes on your own (mainly because I don’t remember them off hand, and this post is beginning to become lengthy).
Maybe I grabbed the 3 or 4 OTA updates that I needed to catch up on.
If I no longer see the notification, does that mean the updates worked? My Android version still shows 4.0.3.
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If the first update didn’t update properly, then the phone is simply downloading and trying to install the same update over and over. When you boot back into Android after a successful update, you will be greeted by a welcome message congratulating you for installing the new version.
If you are rooted, odds are, you are using a custom recovery, such as TWRP or CWM. OTAs are only installed through the stock recovery & a locked bootloader. The stock recovery doesn’t make nandroids, or do anything of the sort. To install the stock recovery, go here:
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/rooting/Evo4GLTERoot2.zip
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The stock recovery is located somewhere within the zip file.
So, there's more than one recovery mode, the stock one, and ...whatever else you can install?
When I see the white screen that says **TAMPERED** (looks basically like this screen)...
should I have chosen Recovery instead of the usual reboot option?
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You can flash install the stock recovery by using fastboot commands from the bootloader (which is the screen that shows the TAMPERED status on the top), or you can use Flash Image GUI. It is a paid app on the Play Store, or you can get it from XDA (the dev let XDA users download it for free…Google it).
Lastly, there are a few things that I suggest that you do. First, obtain S-Off (Google, Google, Google...very simple), so you can install the new firmwares directly, instead of using OTAs. Otherwise, if you accept the OTA, you will lose root, and you will have to root your phone again and again. Installing the firmware, then the new rom is the same as accepting the OTA, then rooting.
Another alternative is to get S-Off, then accept the OTA (after installing the stock recovery). Your bootloader does not need to be locked, and there are recovery zips floating around here that can be installed through the bootloader (therefore, you will not be stuck rooting the phone the hard way, just boot into recovery and flash SuperSU). I highly suggest achieving S-Off.
If you want to jump straight to the latest version (Android 4.3, Sense 5.0) by installing the RUU located somewhere in this forum. I actually suggest that you try Sense 4 with Jelly Bean first, but that is completely up to you. Keep in mind that using the RUU will wipe your internal memory, so back up what needs to be backed up. This doesn’t require you to be rooted, and the state of the bootloader does not matter. It will lock the bootloader, load the stock recovery, and you will lose root. You won’t be able to downgrade without S-Off.
Other Notes:
When using the 4.3 RUU, make sure that Android USB Debugging is enabled.
Bookmarking for later but I wanted to say thanks for the thorough reply!
I can confirm the update never worked, because I never got the confirmation message
and I got prompted again a few hours after I posted.
Are you willing to answer just a few more things?
Based on what I've read, it sounds like this is what I ought to do:
- Back up anything I need to. Just to confirm, updating firmware and flashing a new rom wipes out everything in the phone's internal memory, but not external SDcard? Or both?
Are apps considered "on the cloud" and I can reinstall by just redownloading, without paying again?
Except sideloaded apps? Or will I need to find all those APK files and save them somewhere else?
Is it safe to say they're all in \data\app and \system\app? Or would system\app be unwanted since it's what came with the old phone OS?
- Get my phone into S-OFF status.
- Update firmware (this is a separate process from updating the rom? Where do I get this firmware? Google google google?)
- Install a new ROM (stock or otherwise) which will have these updates built in, so I won't need to regain root.
- Not sure what my bootloader is, maybe TWRP, does it matter? Do the above steps affect it? Should I change it to stock anyway?
- You suggested trying Sense 4 rather than Sense 5 first... any special reason?
Are you willing to answer just a few more things?
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As always, I'm open for questions. Not to sound egotistic, but I enjoy sharing my opinion.
Based on what I've read, it sounds like this is what I ought to do:
- Back up anything I need to. Just to confirm, updating firmware and flashing a new rom wipes out everything in the phone's internal memory, but not external SDcard? Or both?
Updating to the 4.3 firmware wipes your internal memory, not your sd card (although, that may be a very unfortunate circumstance, so it should be backed up as well). The other firmware updates do not affect your memory.
Are apps considered "on the cloud" and I can reinstall by just redownloading, without paying again?
Technically, yes they are "on the cloud." The fact that you paid is saved somewhere within your main Google account that you downloaded the app with. It is possible to pay for apps with your secondary gmail account, which can be switched within the Play Store app.
Except sideloaded apps? Or will I need to find all those APK files and save them somewhere else?
Use Titanium Backup if you can't find the apks. I do save my apks that I download, and I also upload them to Google Drive, since I have multiple Android devices, and I also have a faulty micro sd card that I am yet to replace. I can lose my data at any given moment, but everything is backed up, so I'm not worried.
Is it safe to say they're all in \data\app and \system\app? Or would system\app be unwanted since it's what came with the old phone OS?
Everything within the /system folder is wiped when you flash new roms. That data is NOT backed up while flashing between roms. Also, since it is from an older Android version, it's best to leave them alone. You may back up the data if you like, but I would refrain from restoring the apks along with the data.
The /data directory may be wiped, depending on the dev who built the rom zip. If they added the superwipe script, then /data will be wiped as well. Most devs do not include this, since many people "dirty flash," which is flashing new roms or updates of the current rom without wiping /data first.
- Get my phone into S-OFF status.
You will save yourself a LOT of headaches in the future. It was my S-Off status that allowed me to reflash my firmware when I lost the function of my data/voice antennas while carelessly flashing a port of a phone on a different carrier. Also, if you feel curious to try AOSP roms, then you do not need to do any extra steps to flash them.
- Update firmware (this is a separate process from updating the rom? Where do I get this firmware? Google google google?)
Yes, the firmware handles manages how the hardware of the phone operates. Updating the rom changes how the software looks and behaves. The kernel is sort of a bridge between the firmware and the software, since it manages the firmware (like battery life, processor speed, antennas, etc.), but the kernel is dependent on the software version. The firmware is not dependent on the software version, just as the software version is not dependent on the firmware version.
The only exception of the firmware/software independence is the 4.3 update, which requires a complete update of the firmware, and the older software cannot run on the new firmware without being modded by a dev.
- Install a new ROM (stock or otherwise) which will have these updates built in, so I won't need to regain root.
- Not sure what my bootloader is, maybe TWRP, does it matter? Do the above steps affect it? Should I change it to stock anyway?
Your bootloader is the white screen that shows the TAMPERED status on the top, and little Androids on skateboards on the bottom. With the exception of the firmware information in the top left corner, this screen does not change...ever.
TWRP is your recovery image, which is accessible through the RECOVERY option in your bootloader, or you can boot directly into it through different apps in Android - Titanium Backup is one of them (yes, that's one of the options, even for the free version).
The only reason to return your recovery to stock is to accept OTAs, and also to bring your phone back to the complete factory settings, just as the day when it was first purchased (for the sake of selling the phone, or returning back to Sprint for service}. Otherwise, don't bother with it. You may want to update your version of TWRP, though. If you update to 4.3, you will have to update it. I'm not going to take the time to get into that right now. I've given you enough homework.
- You suggested trying Sense 4 rather than Sense 5 first... any special reason?
I am a very patient person. To me, exploring Android takes time. I enjoy reading before I test, and testing before I settle (which I'm yet to "settle"). All of that being said, I suggested Sense 4 before Sense 5 because I wanted you to experience the both of them. They are truly two different versions of Sense, which one might not realize, as their version numbers are differentiated by one integer (in other words, 4 to 5). Sense 3 was a small step above Sense 2, and Sense 4 was a bigger step from Sense 3. Sense 5 is a complete overhaul of the Sense UI, save the flip clock.
I just feel that skipping from 4.0 to 4.3 is missing out on a great experience, but that is mainly if you actually want to try out different roms. Until the Sense 5 RUU, I still visiting ICS on occassion, but I usually didn't last more than 3 hours before I jumped back to JB.
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Whew...you're making me work. But I like it. Anymore questions? Feel free to ask.
OK I've been working on this all afternoon and I'm at an impasse.
You've been a huge help so far and I hope you can guide me through this part.
I want to S-OFF and am following a tutorial: http://www.thefortressofnerditude.com/s-off-your-sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte/
Step 3 says root and install recovery. So I decide I need TWRP.
Already have nandroid and titanium backups both completed.
And I copied the whole SDcard to my computer after.
Annoyingly, TWRP's install page suggests that I need to be in S-OFF.
TWRP says I need S-OFF. S-OFF guide seems to suggest I need TWRP working.
I installed "TWRP Manager". Realize that might not be the same thing as TWRP.
Googled and found it on the TeamWin page.
The page asks first to input my device. I choose Evo 4G LTE (Jewel).
That brings me to this page: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
They suggest I do the android app install method. I follow the first link (Market Link)
and install GooManager, and follow their steps.
Install the app and open it. Tap menu then hit Install OpenRecoveryScript. Tap Yes. Verify that the filename displays your device's code name and hit Yes. The file will download and your device will reboot and install the recovery automatically.
This all goes smoothly, but here's my issue.
It doesn't reboot automatically, or install anything automatically.
I see in the comments a recommendation to reboot into recovery mode.
I choose that in GooManager's menu, and after rebooting I get my bootloader screen with 4 menu options:
Bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
Power Down
The only one that sounds sensible to me is bootloader so I pick that.
Now I get some new options:
Fastboot
Recovery
Factory Reset
Clear Storage
Simlock
Image CRC
Show Barcode
So, the only one that makes sense is Recovery. I choose it. The phone reboots.
Now I'm back at the first menu. So I'm in a loop.
Nothing I do in this loop seems to install anything.
So I just rebooted the phone normally and I'm back to my OS.
Where to go from here?
CreeDo said:
OK I've been working on this all afternoon and I'm at an impasse.
You've been a huge help so far and I hope you can guide me through this part.
I want to S-OFF and am following a tutorial: http://www.thefortressofnerditude.com/s-off-your-sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte/
Step 3 says root and install recovery. So I decide I need TWRP.
Already have nandroid and titanium backups both completed.
And I copied the whole SDcard to my computer after.
Annoyingly, TWRP's install page suggests that I need to be in S-OFF.
TWRP says I need S-OFF. S-OFF guide seems to suggest I need TWRP working.
I installed "TWRP Manager". Realize that might not be the same thing as TWRP.
Googled and found it on the TeamWin page.
The page asks first to input my device. I choose Evo 4G LTE (Jewel).
That brings me to this page: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
They suggest I do the android app install method. I follow the first link (Market Link)
and install GooManager, and follow their steps.
Install the app and open it. Tap menu then hit Install OpenRecoveryScript. Tap Yes. Verify that the filename displays your device's code name and hit Yes. The file will download and your device will reboot and install the recovery automatically.
This all goes smoothly, but here's my issue.
It doesn't reboot automatically, or install anything automatically.
I see in the comments a recommendation to reboot into recovery mode.
I choose that in GooManager's menu, and after rebooting I get my bootloader screen with 4 menu options:
Bootloader
Reboot
Reboot Bootloader
Power Down
The only one that sounds sensible to me is bootloader so I pick that.
Now I get some new options:
Fastboot
Recovery
Factory Reset
Clear Storage
Simlock
Image CRC
Show Barcode
So, the only one that makes sense is Recovery. I choose it. The phone reboots.
Now I'm back at the first menu. So I'm in a loop.
Nothing I do in this loop seems to install anything.
So I just rebooted the phone normally and I'm back to my OS.
Where to go from here?
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Did you unlock your boot loader first? You don't need to be S-off to install a custom recovery. Unlock your bootloader at htcdev.com then install twrp.
Read here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420916
Also, I suggest learning how to use fastboot commands. Install twrp using fastboot.
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OK, so I'm semi-bricked but not panicking yet.
Here's where I'm at.
• Unlocked boot loader successfully
• Installed TWRP using fastboot.
• Followed instructions as closely as I could on moonshine.io to get S-OFF working.
Several times during the process I got "installing device driver software" in my win7 system tray.
Not sure if that's normal. But the drivers seemed to install fine. At first.
But then, during this part of the process:
Moonshining .................(1)
Windows prompted me that it was installing some drivers again, But it failed to install the MTP driver.
After ten tries with the "Moonshining" step, I got "ERROR: don't drink and moonshine!" or something like that.
So, it seems like I need to get this MTP driver going. First I tried solutions on the computer:
• Uninstalled all HTC software, unplugged phone, rebooted,
installed HTC Sync Manager (setup name setup_3.0.52.0_htc.exe), then uninstalled it...
because a tutorial said this would keep the drivers but remove the software. Still no luck on the MTP driver though.
• Found "Mass Storage Device" (my phone) under device manager, removed it, unplugged, rebooted, replugged.
• Plugged cord into back of PC, so I'm using USB 2.0 rather than USB 3.0.
• One suggestion said a certain registry section might have an upperfilter key that shouldn't be there.
But I don't have that upperfilter key so that's not the issue.
Some fixes require getting into my phone (one guy suggests turning off USB debugging)...
but I no longer have a working OS. I can get into my bootloader, I tried Factory Reset.
But after choosing this I go into TWRP and I have no TWRP backups that I can restore.
So my next guess is, I need to get a recovery ZIP (is that basically a ROM?) that TWRP can install.
If that's correct, what ZIP should I get? I was on Android 4.0.3 Sense 4.0, can I download jellybean with Sense 5.0,
and install it via TWRP?
That was my goal all along, but I'm determined to get S-OFF working, so if doing that means my phone gets wiped again,
I guess I just want whatever ROM/recovery/whatever that allows me to change this USB debugging setting,
and try other phone-related fixes to the MTP driver issue.
First of all, flash an ICS rom. I'm assuming that you are still using the same ICS firmware, and you will want to have your phone operational (to enable USB debugging). The link for MeanRom ICS still works. http://old.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/mikeyxda/LTEvo/MeanROM-ICS-v65-jewel-ltevo.zip
Ok....since you are on the old HBoot, I think that you need to use the older S-Off methods (LazyPanda or DirtyRacun), if I'm not mistaken. You can not download and flash Sense 5.0 through TWRP as of yet, because you need to be using the new firmware to do so. You may want to pay http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm a visit. Also, to use LazyPanda or DirtyRacun, you need to be using Ubuntu. Another option that you have is to use the regular RUU and update directly to Sense 5.0. You will be stock, unrooted, but you can easily use the latest S-Off method.
Lastly, for your rooting/S-Off needs, you can also use a handy-dandy toolkit from @WindyCityRockr that can handle everything that you need to do. I usually encourage manual labor, but there are some exceptions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2436217
Thanks again for jumping in.
I'm getting somewhere, but still so many difficulties.
Fix one thing, break two more.
I finally have a new working rom, but almost against my will it ended up
being CyanogenMod.
The short version:
- unlocked bootloader, got TWRP going, finally got ADB working (don't think it's the right driver,
but whatever, ADB commands work fine), wiped everything... factory reset, Dalvik, external storage.
- Didn't wipe Internal storage, I wiped only /data/ per some post's recommendation.
- I used ADB PUSH to get a few possible roms onto /sdcard/
PJ75IMG_1.13.651.1.zip (failed with "unable to open zip")
(ROM)_Stock_Rooted_OTA_(3.16.651.3)V2.zip (failed with "unable to execute updater binary in zip")
cm-10.2.0-jewel.zip (cyanogenmod) - success!
So, the phone works. It appears to be at least based on android 4.3... and I'm guessing CM, which updates
frequently, has all those OTA updates bundled into it. Any downsides to CyanogenMod?
I could just proceed from here to reinstall my old apps etc.
I'm still not "S-OFF" which annoys me, but I read a post suggesting it's not really that necessary.
The way they put it is, s-off allows you to access partitions so they can be modded,
but nobody is developing anything interesting for those partitions. Like nobody's doing custom radios and such.
Should I still pursue S-OFF anyway?
If so, is there a way to do it with CyanogenMod?
That awesome app (Windroid Universal Toolkit) doesn't recognize the phone.
Last question, how should I go about restoring everything?
I had titanium and nandroid backups copied to my computer.
Can it restore to such a wildly different version of the OS?
Can I get back not just apps, but stuff like my keyboard preferences, texting history, etc.?
Should I still pursue S-OFF anyway?
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Yes! Being S-On is a complete pain in the BUTT when switching AOSP roms. Have you tried to flash the rom that I posted, MeanRom ICS? I'm really trying to get you to stay on Sense, because S-Off and other different tools work so much better while using Sense. AOSP is better after S-Off. But that's up to you.
If so, is there a way to do it with CyanogenMod?
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I am not sure. You can try if you have the time. I suggest making a nandroid of your CM rom, and try to flash a Sense ICS rom, not JB...yet.
That awesome app (Windroid Universal Toolkit) doesn't recognize the phone.
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CM might be the issue here, as well as it might not.
Last question, how should I go about restoring everything?
I had titanium and nandroid backups copied to my computer.
Can it restore to such a wildly different version of the OS?
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Yes, TB will still work. There are some apps that might cause the restoration process to freeze, so I suggest killing TB and skipping over the app that froze the process when you return.
Can I get back not just apps, but stuff like my keyboard preferences, texting history, etc.?
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If your keyboard preferences was not backed up, then no. If you were using the stock Sense keyboard, then that is a no as well. As long as your texting history was backed up, it can be restored. Texts are not like apps...their data is typically stored in XML files which are readable through any version of Android (2.3+).
I'm still soliciting my help if you need it.
I'm for sure going to need it, so thanks very much for the ongoing support!
I got discouraged after all the failures but I'll download Meanrom now.
The thing is... now that Cyanogen mod works, I hesitate to wipe it and try a new one.
Especially since several other roms I tried mysteriously failed to install.
I like that it's jellybean and don't wanna move backwards to ICS.
And I like their goal of cutting out the fluff.
I still want S-OFF, will I end up having to wipe everything again to get it?
Also, I really don't feel confident I have the right drivers for my windows machine.
I can transfer files in USB mode, go into USB debugging, and do the usual ADB commands.
But the phone shows up as a nexus in device manager, but it's definitely evo 4G lte.
I tried installing an executable RUU and it failed after a bit saying it can't detect the device.
And there's that issue where Windroid doesn't detect it.
So I have the feeling that without the right USB drivers, tools like Moonshine will still fail.
I specifically got errors every time when anything tried to install MTP usb drivers. Do I really need them?
You think LazyPanda or DirtyRacun's tools will work even if I never get the MTP thing installed?
CreeDo said:
I'm for sure going to need it, so thanks very much for the ongoing support!
I got discouraged after all the failures but I'll download Meanrom now.
The thing is... now that Cyanogen mod works, I hesitate to wipe it and try a new one.
Especially since several other roms I tried mysteriously failed to install.
I like that it's jellybean and don't wanna move backwards to ICS.
And I like their goal of cutting out the fluff.
I still want S-OFF, will I end up having to wipe everything again to get it?
Also, I really don't feel confident I have the right drivers for my windows machine.
I can transfer files in USB mode, go into USB debugging, and do the usual ADB commands.
But the phone shows up as a nexus in device manager, but it's definitely evo 4G lte.
I tried installing an executable RUU and it failed after a bit saying it can't detect the device.
And there's that issue where Windroid doesn't detect it.
So I have the feeling that without the right USB drivers, tools like Moonshine will still fail.
I specifically got errors every time when anything tried to install MTP usb drivers. Do I really need them?
You think LazyPanda or DirtyRacun's tools will work even if I never get the MTP thing installed?
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Feel free to try the facepalm S-off method as well. Works on devices with older software and is super easy. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163013
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Evolution_Freak said:
Feel free to try the facepalm S-off method as well. Works on devices with older software and is super easy. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163013
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Cheers, it does look pretty straightforward.
Of course that's what I thought hours ago when I tried moonshine haha.
I'll give it a go.
To be clear, does this method wipe anything?
They don't actually say.
CreeDo said:
Cheers, it does look pretty straightforward.
Of course that's what I thought hours ago when I tried moonshine haha.
I'll give it a go.
To be clear, does this method wipe anything?
They don't actually say.
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Can't remember if it wipes or not. Best thing to do is make a backup with TWRP and keep the backup on your external SD card. If it wipes you can always restore your backup.
Sent from my HTC device
Thanks for the help so far guys. I am currently really enjoying Cyanogenmod. I suspect it's eating battery more,
but then against I am on the phone for hours redoing everything that got changed/removed.
Does anyone know if there's a simple way (or even a difficult way) to restore my texts?
Because the app is totally different, and the old text app was the one that came
with the stock rom, I cannot restore it in titanium. But if I could extract even the raw text that'd be helpful.
Get back to Sense, or get someone with Sense to restore it for you, and save it using a different app. Or maybe try using SMS Backup & Restore from the Play Store. I'm not sure if it can read the backups saved through Sense, but it's worth a try. You just have to navigate to the location of the old backup.
It looks like I can import an XML in this messaging app so maybe if sense offers an export to XML option, I'll be set.
Sense is sort of an OS on top of the OS, right?
Can sense be loaded without flashing a new rom? or is it too integrated with the OS?

[Q] Cannot Get HTC M8 Update 1.58

Hi All,
I have been trying to get the FW update with extreme save mode for almost a week now.
I check for software updates daily and I get the NO UPDATE found message.
Called At&t and tech support is as useful as my 3 years old kid.
Does anyone have the same problem? Solutions?
Thanks
Unlock bootloader, install Android Revolution thats been updated with latest release and you are good to go. No reason to wait till they let it work for yea when you can do it yourself.
JayRolla said:
Unlock bootloader, install Android Revolution thats been updated with latest release and you are good to go. No reason to wait till they let it work for yea when you can do it yourself.
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Thanks for the advice, but others are getting the update OTA, without root or downloading Android Rev.
Some M8 owners may see a delay in getting the OTA, as it rolls out sequentially, by some means (I've seen AT&T suggest its by IMEI number). A minority of folks will never get it, just by some random fluke or other (as happens on any OTA).
If you don't want to wait, the RUU is already posted. You can download to a PC, and run it with your phone connected. But it will wipe user data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2757462
redpoint73 said:
Some M8 owners may see a delay in getting the OTA, as it rolls out sequentially, by some means (I've seen AT&T suggest its by IMEI number). A minority of folks will never get it, just by some random fluke or other (as happens on any OTA).
If you don't want to wait, the RUU is already posted. You can download to a PC, and run it with your phone connected. But it will wipe user data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2757462
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Thanks for the tip, I tried that and it wouldn't work. Do I need root or s-off?
Also, has everyone that attempted to download things manually received the update?
I would really appreciate the responses
sassij said:
Thanks for the tip, I tried that and it wouldn't work. Do I need root or s-off?
Also, has everyone that attempted to download things manually received the update?
I would really appreciate the responses
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How did it not work? As long as you are completely stock with cid cws__001 it should work.
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sassij said:
Hi All,
I have been trying to get the FW update with extreme save mode for almost a week now.
I check for software updates daily and I get the NO UPDATE found message.
Called At&t and tech support is as useful as my 3 years old kid.
Does anyone have the same problem? Solutions?
Thanks
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download ota package from here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23487008491963146
put it on your micro sd card
boot to recovery "vol up and power 10 sec, vol down and power until boot loader comes up and navigate to recovery"
once in recovery its either vol up and power or vol down and power for a few seconds for advanced options
choose install update from external sd.
sassij said:
Thanks for the tip, I tried that and it wouldn't work. Do I need root or s-off?
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No, the phone does not need to be modded to run the RUU. Its a "official" update/recovery tool provided by HTC. If you phone is stock, it should work, as the above response also indicated.
If it "wouldn't work" it would be more helpful to give details, if you want proper help. Not just say it didn't work. What step did it fail at , any error message, etc. Also, the current state of your phone (root, unlocked bootloader, etc.), as we can only assume based on your comment about root, etc.
RUU failing on a stock device is usually a USB connectivity issue on the part of your computer (not a problem on the phone's side). Install or re-install the HTC drives, try a different USB port, or a different computer (if available). If on Windows 8.1, that version is a known issue and will not work with the HTC drivers. You can also try re-downloading the RUU to make sure it wasn't damaged/corrupted during download.

I believe I royally screwed up my attempt to Root

Hey friends, I am very new to the rooting scene. I have a at&t htc m8 and i made the mistake of trying to root the fast and easy way. I followed a guide by a user names Unlocker. I would post the link but am unable to at this current time because i am new here
That has it's readers use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit. Well I think I screwed up in that process. when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. So naturally I freaked out tried my best to unroot the damn thing by following a guide created by the same guy after he got many complaints of issues
Naturally I had problems with this aswell. Now where i'm at, at this current moment is
**tampered** ***unlocked**
I successfully (i think) removed super su and did my best to get back to stock firmware. well I failed at that aswell. I still have TWRP on my phone and managed to get security turned back on.
What I am asking is for any references or maybe even some fresh help on how i can either get my phone back to stock firmware so i can take the OTA updates and be on my merry way or maybe reccomend a custom rom I can use that has the new lolipop software.
Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM. I feel pretty helpless right now but if i can get some instruction I know I will be able to figure this out.
I'm still really new to this also, but I'll try my best (just take everything I say w/ a grain of salt...):
Krob189 said:
... when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. ...
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Do you mean that you'd successfully done whatever you were doing and this was happening in normal use? AFAIK it is normal for the the screen to power off during long-running TWRP actions, and power button wakes it up.
Krob189 said:
...
I successfully (i think) removed super su and did my best to get back to stock firmware. well I failed at that aswell. I still have TWRP on my phone and managed to get security turned back on.
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Which firmware do you have on it now? Do you have ADB installed? If so, it might be helpful if you post the output of the command
Code:
fastboot getvar all
. If not, I think you'll need ADB and fastboot to help recover.
Krob189 said:
...Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM ...
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AT&T uses GSM. The GSM version should be correct. Depending on the firmware you have installed, specific versions of twrp may not work. In my case, twrp 2.8.4.0 wouldn't work on AT&T's stock 4.4.2 firmware, but would on the 4.4.4 firmware.
EDIT: Did you make a TWRP backup before attempting these changes? Depending on the state of your firmware, restoring that might be enough to fix things.
AT&T Stock 4.4.4 RUU
This should solve your problem, if you can achieve s-off again:
AT&T Stock 4.4.4 RUU
Krob189 said:
That has it's readers use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit. Well I think I screwed up in that process. when my phone was off and charging , the screen would briefly flash the TWRP ui with their lock screen. So naturally I freaked out tried my best to unroot the damn thing by following a guide created by the same guy after he got many complaints of issues
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All the panic is for nothing. Its normal for the TWRP screen to appear for a brief moment when the device is powered off, and you connect the charger. At least on older versions of TWPR (and the version installed by Hasoon's toolkit is quite old).
Krob189 said:
Now i was looking to update my TWRP but I am unable to locate an AT&T verison. I see sprint , verizon, and GSM. I feel pretty helpless right now but if i can get some instruction I know I will be able to figure this out.
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The TWRP version you want is the GSM. All versions of the M8 are essentially the same (and considered "GSM") except for the CDMA (Sprint & Verizon) and dual SIM variants.
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brasticstack said:
Do you mean that you'd successfully done whatever you were doing and this was happening in normal use? AFAIK it is normal for the the screen to power off during long-running TWRP actions, and power button wakes it up.
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What the OP is describing was a known bug, and happened when outside of recovery and while the phone was powered off (and while connecting the charger).
Wow thank you for fast responses!
So from my understanding I have a outdated TWRP version. I suppose I need to read up on how to update this and also how to flash a new rom. I only rooted my phone so I could pair up my ps3 controller to my phone so I can play games on it. I regret doing it now to be honest because I have modded my 3ds to play the same games i was using on my phone
I would love to be on the lolipop update that launched yesterday I believe. Should I stick to a rooted rom or just flash a stock version? Can anyone recommend a good lolipop root that has some tweaks for battery life and overall performance?
Krob189 said:
So from my understanding I have a outdated TWRP version. I suppose I need to read up on how to update this and also how to flash a new rom.
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Just get the latest version of TWRP from their website. As you are asking what version (CDMA vs. GSM) it sounds like you are already getting there.
It sounds like you have the version of TWRP that was installed by the toolkit. That version is many months old. But its a minor bug, anyway. How often do you charge the phone with it powered off, anyway. I also don't think you can do anything in TWRP in this condition (if a security risk is your concern). The TWRP appears for a split second, and that's it.
Krob189 said:
I would love to be on the lolipop update that launched yesterday I believe. Should I stick to a rooted rom or just flash a stock version? Can anyone recommend a good lolipop root that has some tweaks for battery life and overall performance?
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Lollipop didn't launch for AT&T, its just a long-delayed 4.4.4 update for us. To update to 4.4.4, either return to stock ROM and stock recovery to get the OTA, or relock the bootloader and run the official RUU.
Lollipop (5.0) started to roll out for some Euro CIDs, and has been out for US Dev Edition for a while. But you can't get to Sense Lollipop unless you s-off (or until AT&T releases it).

Have TWRP but not root HDX 8.9 3rd gen

I got a new Motherboard and daughterboard in my HDX Apollo. I was able to get TWRP on it, but it keeps saying i dont appear to have root. I tried installing the latest supersu but it apparently didnt work. Anyway, i have realized that i just keep getting myself into trouble playing with root. All i want is to get my 3rd gen back to 4.5.5.1 fire os and wait for the fire os 5 update for it(hopefully) Any help on how i can do that? Ive tried downloading the latest Kindle update for apollo, renaming the .bin to update.zip and transferring it over and installing it but it never boots further than the 'kindle' screen.
Thanks for your help, sorry to be a pain
If you're on Fire OS 4.x you don't have TWRP, but Safestrap v4. After what you've done, do you still have access to Safestrap? Installing an amazon update with Safestrap installed, or even just rooted could easily mess up the device, i.e. brick it.
I don't think it's fire os 4x then. It does boot into the twrp interface and is fully functional but when you go to reboot into a different recovery it says something like "it appears you do not have root. Would you like to install supersu?" Even if I say yes it acts like it installs but apparently doesn't. I can post pics later
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Cl4ncy said:
If you're on Fire OS 4.x you don't have TWRP, but Safestrap v4. After what you've done, do you still have access to Safestrap? Installing an amazon update with Safestrap installed, or even just rooted could easily mess up the device, i.e. brick it.
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Oh and I'm not sure what the new board had on it. It never fully booted. That's why I installed twrp. Thanks for the reply though!
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mhuck0625 said:
I don't think it's fire os 4x then. It does boot into the twrp interface and is fully functional but when you go to reboot into a different recovery it says something like "it appears you do not have root. Would you like to install supersu?" Even if I say yes it acts like it installs but apparently doesn't. I can post pics later
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mhuck0625 said:
Oh and I'm not sure what the new board had on it. It never fully booted. That's why I installed twrp. Thanks for the reply though!
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- how did you "install" TWRP (method)?
- how are you accessing TWRP - just pressing the power button or some key combination (yes, it's important)?
- does a graphic vaguely resembling Frankenstein appear when you power up the device?
Davey126 said:
- how did you "install" TWRP (method)?
- how are you accessing TWRP - just pressing the power button or some key combination (yes, it's important)?
- does a graphic vaguely resembling Frankenstein appear when you power up the device?
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I installed TWRP using the method instructed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...-to-unbrick-kindle-fire-hdx-firmware-t3277197
When i want to get to TWRP i press and hold Power + Vol UP until it rebootes into the Teamwin screen and TWRP. It is version 2.8.7.0 now(the instructions got 2.8.5.0 installed then i upgraded)
I dont remember what the graphic looked like when booting into TWRP but i know it said TeamWin. I can check when i get it charged back up enough to turn on. Ive had it sitting unplugged for days and the battery ran dead. I hope this is enough info to help get me pointed in the right direction. Thanks!
Ok, if it's the real TWRP which it seems to be, Safestrap has no TeamWin logo at boot, I'd suggest you leave it be. Currently you can use all available ROMs, so if there'll be a future version of Fire OS you could use a TWRP flashable version of it. I doubt there will be a Fire OS 5 update for the "old" Thor/Apollo line though.
You would destroy the possibilities you currently have by updating to Fire OS 4.5.5.1.
Meanwhile you can unlock your bootloader (if you haven't already), and update TWRP to 3.0.0-1 (requires unlocked bootloader).
Don't I need root though? How can I unlock my bootloader from the stage I'm at now? I'm just a bit afraid of proceeding in case I brick it again
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Ok, if it's the real TWRP which it seems to be, Safestrap has no TeamWin logo at boot, I'd suggest you leave it be. Currently you can use all available ROMs, so if there'll be a future version of Fire OS you could use a TWRP flashable version of it. I doubt there will be a Fire OS 5 update for the "old" Thor/Apollo line though.
You would destroy the possibilities you currently have by updating to Fire OS 4.5.5.1.
Meanwhile you can unlock your bootloader (if you haven't already), and update TWRP to 3.0.0-1 (requires unlocked bootloader).
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Don't I need root though? How can I unlock my bootloader from the stage I'm at now? I'm just a bit afraid of proceeding in case I brick it again
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There's no risk in unlocking, the bootloader either unlocks or it errors/fails. Try the one-click-solution first (might require the PDANet drivers). It's recommended to update the bootloader to 3.2.3.2 (do it only, if the unlock worked ok).
TWRP can be updated from TWRP itself, so I'd recommend doing it that way. Just be sure to flash the TWRP image to the recovery partition.
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There's no risk in unlocking, the bootloader either unlocks or it errors/fails. Try the one-click-solution first (might require the PDANet drivers). It's recommended to update the bootloader to 3.2.3.2 (do it only, if the unlock worked ok).
TWRP can be updated from TWRP itself, so I'd recommend doing it that way. Just be sure to flash the TWRP image to the recovery partition.
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Tried 1-Click. In both Linux(Ubuntu 16.04) and Windows(10.1 x64) i get an error saying ADB is not enabled on the device. Ive tried booting into fastboot(with fastboot cable) tried using the regular cable and booting into TWRP. Any combination of boot modes and cables i can think of wont work. Where should i go from here?
Thanks
mhuck0625 said:
Don't I need root though? How can I unlock my bootloader from the stage I'm at now? I'm just a bit afraid of proceeding in case I brick it again
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Root is irrelevant at this stage as nothing has been flashed to the system partition (where ROMs live).
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Root is irrelevant at this stage as nothing has been flashed to the system partition (where ROMs live).
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Ok, so i will need root to install ROMs then? How do i solve my problem unlocking the bootloader?
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Tried 1-Click. In both Linux(Ubuntu 16.04) and Windows(10.1 x64) i get an error saying ADB is not enabled on the device. Ive tried booting into fastboot(with fastboot cable) tried using the regular cable and booting into TWRP. Any combination of boot modes and cables i can think of wont work. Where should i go from here?
Thanks
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Lack of a functioning ROM could prove problematic if ADB is not enabled. I do not recall if the version of TWRP you installed provides native support for MTP which is essential for moving files onto the device. You may need to go the manual route to unlock bootloader which still requires tethered access but only at the fastboot level.
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Lack of a functioning ROM could prove problematic if ADB is not enabled. I do not recall if the version of TWRP you installed provides native support for MTP which is essential for moving files onto the device. You may need to go the manual route to unlock bootloader which still requires tethered access but only at the fastboot level.
Nearing the edge of my pay grade on this topic; looking for others with more recent experience to jump in...
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I do have mtp access and can transfer files easily. Should I try installing a Rom to see if I get adb access? What's a good Rom to try
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Davey126 said:
Lack of a functioning ROM could prove problematic if ADB is not enabled. I do not recall if the version of TWRP you installed provides native support for MTP which is essential for moving files onto the device. You may need to go the manual route to unlock bootloader which still requires tethered access but only at the fastboot level.
Nearing the edge of my pay grade on this topic; looking for others with more recent experience to jump in...
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Just curious on one thing. Whenever i see a ROM to download it says i need to unlock the bootloader and have root before i can do that. In MY case i do NOT have either, yet i was able to flash a new recovery(TWRP) How is this possible? How would i go about installing a new ROM or unlocking the bootloader?
Is there a way to flash the stock recovery back so i can reinstall fireOS and start from scratch?
Is there a way to tell what bootloader i have from within TWRP?
I realize i probably should have done a little more reading before i started messing with it :/ I do appreciate all the help you have been able to provide so far!
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I do have mtp access and can transfer files easily. Should I try installing a Rom to see if I get adb access? What's a good Rom to try
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mhuck0625 said:
Just curious on one thing. Whenever i see a ROM to download it says i need to unlock the bootloader and have root before i can do that. In MY case i do NOT have either, yet i was able to flash a new recovery(TWRP) How is this possible? How would i go about installing a new ROM or unlocking the bootloader?
Is there a way to flash the stock recovery back so i can reinstall fireOS and start from scratch?
Is there a way to tell what bootloader i have from within TWRP?
I realize i probably should have done a little more reading before i started messing with it :/ I do appreciate all the help you have been able to provide so far!
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- traveling; response will be brief
- suggest flashing cm11 as it does not require an unlocked bootloader nor GAaps for basic functionality
- include SuperSU in flash package to secure root
- follow flashing directions in cm11 OP
- report back results; will go from there
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- traveling; response will be brief
- suggest flashing cm11 as it does not require an unlocked bootloader nor GAaps for basic functionality
- include SuperSU in flash package to secure root
- follow flashing directions in cm11 OP
- report back results; will go from there
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Downloaded CM11 and installed via this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...-cm-11-safestrap-20150628-unofficial-t3145547
Copied it as well as the latest SuperSu(v2.65) to the Kindle Fire
Went to Install, saw both Zip files. Selected them(CM11 first, then Supersu second) Swipe to install, rebooted and nothing came up. Rebooted into TWRP and repeated the process after wiping dalvik/cache. Still nothing
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Downloaded CM11 and installed via this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...-cm-11-safestrap-20150628-unofficial-t3145547
Copied it as well as the latest SuperSu(v2.65) to the Kindle Fire
Went to Install, saw both Zip files. Selected them(CM11 first, then Supersu second) Swipe to install, rebooted and nothing came up. Rebooted into TWRP and repeated the process after wiping dalvik/cache. Still nothing
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Makes sense. Likely no kernel. Will probably need to install a full version of FireOS for underlying components. Need to have a think about which build to maximize results, minimize rework. More later....
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Makes sense. Likely no kernel. Will probably need to install a full version of FireOS for underlying components. Need to have a think about which build to maximize results, minimize rework. More later....
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You have no idea how much i appreciate the help!
I look forward to hearing what you come up with!!
I would be happy just going straight back to full fire os - Stock EVERYTHING and not even worrying about running another OS. I just want to have a usable tablet again!

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