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From the updated Anandtech N4 review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/4
"...at present there really aren’t any Miracast standardized receivers. I tried a Netgear model which was pre-certification but couldn’t get the Nexus 4 to attach, although I’m told Netgear will update the NTV300SL to support Miracast by mid-December. I’d expect that the rest of their lineup will be ready around then.
"Until we have Miracast sinks everywhere there’s really no way for me to test how this works on the Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 doesn’t include Miracast support, I’m guessing because of memory bandwidth reasons possibly involved in scaling and encoding 2560x1600."
As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
poisike said:
As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
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No Miracast in N7 3G (or plain N7) either:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/googles-nexus-7-gets-a-fresh-coat-of-paint-for-the-holidays/
"Android 4.2 on the Nexus 7 has no major surprises: all of the features we mentioned in our review are here, with the exception of Miracast (which is only supported on the Nexus 4 for the time being) and the new camera features (which are present if you install a third-party camera launcher for the front-facing camera). Multiuser support and lock screen widgets, two features that weren't ready in time for our main review, are also here, but we'll be examining them more closely in a separate article."
Miracast will be available after the update. Which happen last night. Now all you need is a receiver to do the handshaking. The netgear one would do and after it is on you wireless network you would just stream to it like you would a windows media extender. By 2013, so early next year tvs once they start calling them smart tvs :cyclops: will have this feature built into it. Here we come google tv. wouldnt that be sweet to have a nexus 60 inch tv?? or bigger.
n4, n7, n10, ntv, n60 maybe?? i see it happening.
Just to be clear to any readers out there, whether or not there will be Miracast support for the Nexus 10 is unknown and anyone stating otherwise is speculating. What is known is that there will be Miracast for the Nexus 4, but no official reports from google have come out for the Nexus 10.
The hardware support for wireless display looks to be there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34038283&postcount=19
Copied from Exynos 5250 thread -
"Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Du al_WP.pdf
If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper."
Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
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Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
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Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
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Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Exactly. It's in the Nexus 10 section. Now, I'm not saying it's definitive proof, but it at least means that their online documentation does imply it'll have it.
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Great! Let's hope!
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Great! Let's hope!
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I phoned Google Tech Support this morning and asked if the Nexus 10 would have Miracast functionality "out of the box".
Tech guy couldn't answer for sure and promised to respond back to me later via email.
5 hours later, amazingly (to me anyway), I received an email back from him stating that he got clarification on this question and that, yes, Miracast is good to go "out of the box" on the Nexus 10.
I still won't believe it until someone with a unit confirms it.
Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
Yeah, I had called them and asked them too. He had no idea what Miracast was and so I explained it to him. He said he'll have to ask his supervisors and put me on hold. He came back and said "Yeah, you can stream and watch movies on your tv from your tablet and stuff." I said, "Yeah, but specifically Miracast...Does the Nexus 10 support Miracast?" He then said that's more of a hardware question and I'd need to call Asus. Asus huh? Interesting. Are they taking Samsung support calls now. I just ended it there knowing I wasn't going to get anywhere.
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Croak said:
Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
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My understanding is that while the capability might be there if Wifi-Direct is there, it still doesn't mean that it will be Miracast certified and thus might not be supported by Android.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/19/wi...certification-just-dont-expect-apple-to-play/
FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
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FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
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you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
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you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
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No, just sharing that a WiDi/Miracast capable adapter recognized a Wi-Fi Direct device, a substantiation of Croak's earlier post.
I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
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I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
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That actually makes a ton of sense. I also read somewhere that Netgear is working on updating the software on its PushTV3000 to support the Nexus devices that have Wifi Direct/Miracast. They hope to have that done by next week, apparently.
Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
(droid) said:
Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
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This Galaxy Tab 10.1 (first gen) does not have Allshare Cast and will not be getting Jellybean. Need to ask your question in the right forum.
Hi,
I am at cross roads between the Nexus 7 or Asus TF300.
Currently i am proud owner of Galaxy Nexus and totally love it.
I like to read articles, blogs, Movies, Videos online on my phone and therefore looking for a tablet with a bigger size than GNex.
Transformer TF300:
The pros i see in TF300 is that it is expandable with keyboard dock, USB, MicroSD, MHL support are a Big Big plus for me.
using MHL i can output stuff to my monitor something i do with my GNex every now and than.
Nexus 7:
The Nexus 7 felt really well in my hand and since i use GNex the experience should be pleasing.
The problem with GNex is lack of MHL (big one) and lack of MicroSD, SD support, no keyboard dock going forward.
Both have Tegra 3 and same resolution.
So what do you guys think?? is the Transformer TF300 experience the same, smooth and painless as GNex, Nexus 7 or is there a difference.
Should i go for Nexus 7 or TF300.
Thanks
Nexus for fast and prompt updates..
premsrj said:
Nexus for fast and prompt updates..
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Is there any way to get MHL on nexus 7? Any hack?
Thanks.
geronemo said:
Is there any way to get MHL on nexus 7? Any hack?
Thanks.
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Check the following link http://www.zqna.net/qna/isiuhr-mhl-with-nexus-4.html
premsrj said:
Check the following link http://www.zqna.net/qna/isiuhr-mhl-with-nexus-4.html
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I Googled, Youtubed Slimport and Nexus 7 and nothing came up.
So i called Google tech support and the guy i talked to told me that it HAS MHL, I told him it doesn't
He went back and checked/asked someone and agreed it doesn't, than i asked him to check about SlimPort so he put me on hold again and asked someone and they said it doesn't have SlimPort.
I know the Nexus 7 will get better updates and is a lot cheaper, but with no microSD, no SlimPort and MHL which are important for me, as of now i am pretty inclined towards TF300.
I will head to Sam's Club in a day or 2 to check them out side by side as that's the only store where i saw both tablets in close proximity.
Hi guys,
I just received a few hours ago my Nexus 9 and I checked both, Slimport and MHL but doesn't work. The Slimport device works fine with my Nexus 5 and my TV but the Nexus 9 doesn't work.
Cheers.
Worst nexus device ever.
Caelrie said:
Worst nexus device ever.
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I'm very disappointed with this issue...
Maybe could be a problem with the inside configuration of my Slimport, I had notice that some Slimport works fine in some devices but doesn't work in others due changes inside micro usb port (different cable connections).
But still.... In my Nexus 5 the Slimport works absolutely fine....
Caelrie said:
Worst nexus device ever.
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somehow it seems you hit the nail. i was very waiting for the nexus 9 and i am so disapointed what i see about it that it makes me really sad. this device is so full of wrong decisions, irrational design flaws and build quality issues that i am nearly speachless. and then it is quite expensive for the few it offers.
it is quite "interesting" that the nexus 6 PHONE gets 3GB ram, upto 64GB rom and the 64bit os nexus 9 only 2GB and a zram swap using 512MB to gain a little bit by compression >.> and then it seems to have some issues with otg, lack of micro hdmi or slimport etc.
i don't get it. what's the point htc? trying to debut as the worst nexus manufactor ever?
Terrible. This is the final nail in the coffin for my "should I get the Nexus 9" decision. Glad I got the Shield Tablet at release and will stick with that for a while now, probably until Nvidia release their next tab.
I have a Google answer about this but I can't post links after 10 post
In google groups, in product forums go to Nexus 9 and find mi post named "Nexus 9 and Slimport doesn't work"
They said to me that the micro usb port doesn't support video output.
Hi guys,
So if I get everything right that means : the new Nexus 9 doesn't have wireless charging. It doesn't have support for MHL nor SlimPort.
OK : maybe it's really handy with a Chromecast key... but that's a foul limitation.
Chromecast simply does not work when you have no Wi-Fi.
I'm a professor.
I teach at University.
I want to be able to show .ppt presentations to my students.
But I don't always have a network, or the LP to the University network.
So, I just can't do it ? While I coudl do it with my Nexus 7 2012 ?
That is a huge step backwards... and I think for that simple reason I won't get the Nexus 9 but will try to find a nice N7 2013 LTE instead...
Chances are, I'll have more functionnality and pay less than the half !
The real sad thing about that is that the "Nexus Legend" is vanishing... Not fading, but melting like a snowflake in August !
Bye Bye Nexus... Loved the N4, loved the N7 2012, loved the N5...
Regards.
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Hi guys,
So if I get everything right that means : the new Nexus 9 doesn't have wireless charging. It doesn't have support for MHL nor SlimPort.
OK : maybe it's really handy with a Chromecast key... but that's a foul limitation.
Chromecast simply does not work when you have no Wi-Fi.
I'm a professor.
I teach at University.
I want to be able to show .ppt presentations to my students.
But I don't always have a network, or the LP to the University network.
So, I just can't do it ? While I coudl do it with my Nexus 7 2012 ?
That is a huge step backwards... and I think for that simple reason I won't get the Nexus 9 but will try to find a nice N7 2013 LTE instead...
Chances are, I'll have more functionnality and pay less than the half !
The real sad thing about that is that the "Nexus Legend" is vanishing... Not fading, but melting like a snowflake in August !
Bye Bye Nexus... Loved the N4, loved the N7 2012, loved the N5...
Regards.
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Haven't Google announced that Chromecast will work without a WiFi network in the last google IO?
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Haven't Google announced that Chromecast will work without a WiFi network in the last google IO?
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Hi,
Well, it might be.
Shall investigate this further.
Anyways, I don't think the Nexus 9 will make it to my door : too expensive for a feature limited tablet.
Regards.
Likely just not a popular thing to have. I have a slimport cable that i just never used for the past year once I got chromecast. Now i understand I'm not a professor with that specific need. if that's a deal breaker I'd just return it get a 2013 N7 and spend the $300 you save on something else. maybe a shield tablet. Tablets, tablets everywhere!
I'm looking to upgrade my first or second gen WDTV Live, I'm not sure to what though. I was looking at the Razer Forge TV but that doesn't have a release date yet. The Nexus Player is also a possibility although I'm not strongly considering it because of it's lack of ethernet port. Searching Amazon for "Android TV Box" I see a couple of very highly rated Gbox MX2 and Gbox Q media players. But are those full Android roms instead of the new (hopefully more user friendly (media player specific)) Android TV roms?
I'm most likely only interested in media playback (I don't know much about the Forge TV's pc game streaming). Any recommendations on whether I should go for one of these options or wait 6 months until the Forge TV is out and/or other players are available?
Thanks
I thought about putting this in the Android Stick Computers subforum but I'm really looking for a full media player box with remote...
I would wait for the Forge TV
It looks to me like the Forge TV is going to come out end of Q1 ( less then two months). I am personally waiting for it as it will do more then any box on the market at that price .
I am new so can not link the sub but there is a sub reddit for androidtv /r/androidtv
More info if you need it in this subreddit.
EvanVanVan said:
I'm looking to upgrade my first or second gen WDTV Live, I'm not sure to what though. I was looking at the Razer Forge TV but that doesn't have a release date yet. The Nexus Player is also a possibility although I'm not strongly considering it because of it's lack of ethernet port. Searching Amazon for "Android TV Box" I see a couple of very highly rated Gbox MX2 and Gbox Q media players. But are those full Android roms instead of the new (hopefully more user friendly (media player specific)) Android TV roms?
I'm most likely only interested in media playback (I don't know much about the Forge TV's pc game streaming). Any recommendations on whether I should go for one of these options or wait 6 months until the Forge TV is out and/or other players are available?
Thanks
I thought about putting this in the Android Stick Computers subforum but I'm really looking for a full media player box with remote...
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I guess you don't have enough posts even to thank, but thanks for the reply. Yeah I'll probably wait until at least the Forge TV is released so I can see the reviews/community thinks about it. Maybe something different will be announced in the mean time as well.
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I guess you don't have enough posts even to thank, but thanks for the reply. Yeah I'll probably wait until at least the Forge TV is released so I can see the reviews/community thinks about it. Maybe something different will be announced in the mean time as well.
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What are the good features of forge tv? Is it expensive approximately?
Hey guys, heres some useful information to help you out .
So google tried to launch GoogleTV but failed when too many 3rd party hardware developers released it on bad peforming low end hardware.
Google has abandoned GoogleTV and created AndroidTV, and this time around they have set a minimum hardware requirements to run it, hopefully meaning that anyone should get the same experience, reguardless of what hardware box they purchased.
So technically it shouldnt matter if you buy NexusTV or ForgeTV, or any of the many hardware releases that will come out this year, they should all perform the basics the same
I also know of the NZXT Doko, but again, wait two or three months and you are garunteed to see heaps of androidTV boxes hit the markets, doesnt look like early adopters will be punished (hopefully)
Beelink R68
I am looking at the Beelink R68 TV box... It's fairly new. Seems to have the best features and latest Android version available in a TV box... But, New enough that I can't find how to root it.
So, I have 3 questions...
1. Does it have to be rooted to watch live PPV TV?
2. Does anyone have one and what's your opinion...
3. Does anyone know a good TV Box root site?