Question about unlocking - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hey guys,
A friend of mine just bought a Verizon S4, new in the box. Unfortunately he updated to OF1. He's on the Verizon network, but he's not under any sort of contract. So as far as I know, he should be eligible to have it unlocked by Verizon.
I'm reading that there is no current root method for OF1. If he gets the phone unlocked, will he have the ability to flash a third party (rooted) ROM? Or is he SOL?
All he really wants to do is enable wifi tethering. I know how to do this with root. And I know FoxFi can do this without root, but the lock screen requirement plus giving them the ability to snoop all traffic via trusted certificate sets off too many alarm bells for my liking.
Thanks.
Edit: I mixed up sim unlocking and bootloader unlocking, so disregard all that. I'd delete the whole thread and start one specific to tethering if I could, but I can't. If anyone has any recommendations on unlocking wireless tethering without root, I'd appreciate it.

I just don't understand, both my & wife's phone can wifi tether straight out of the box. It's under wifi settings. I don't see why you can not either. I have used it to connect my touch computer to Internet or whatever else I need to connect.
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I believe it depends on your plan. When he enables the mobile hotspot, it says something about asking the carrier for permission. It then fails and says that his plan does not allow tethering.
I'm on AT&T, not Verizon, so I'm not familiar with the exact plan names. But I think the new "Share Everything" plan or whatever it's called allows tethering. He's grandfathered in on the old unlimited data plan.

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Rooted Tethering App

I posted this in another area of this forum , but I think this is the proper place...Just rooted my Samsung Galaxy SII AT&T and am looking for a tethering app and/or process to get tethering on my rooted phone. I use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and it worked flawlessly. I have done some searching and cant seem to find an answer.
What I am looking for is a tethering app (preferably free) to put on this phone so I can share my data connection. If someone could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.
Not to be a ass or anything but....
Did you even use search?
Point in the right direction below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=101111416
you know there is tethering option actually in the phone, dont need a separate app. Settings->Wireless and Network->Tethering and portable hotspot
@ Pmac 25...I searched...here and the net. I was drawing blanks. Not sure why I could not find anything. Sorry, but thank you for the help.
@highaltitude...I am cool with using the tethering app in the phone, can I use it without issues from AT&T? I mean I know they possibly could track me, but does the root allow use of the stock tethering app?
Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
I read in on of the threads you can just delete the tethermanager.apk. I think I can delete this from Titanium Backup. It is listed as TetheringManager 2.07.06(1). If/once I do this, I can just use the stock tethering app on the phone?
highaltitude said:
Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
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High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
Thanks....
lonewolf69 said:
High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
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@lonewolf....I think I can freeze or remove the TetheringManager 2.07.06(1) with Titanium Backup. is this the file you refer to in your post?

Update Question (running 4.4.1)

Hi my G3 is rooted and running 4.4.1. I have a software update that I have not downloaded since maybe May? I blocked any incoming updates after that. My question is if I do update it will it lose root? Is there a way to unroot the phone totally to sell or give it to a family member? Another question is if I do unroot does mobile hotspot still work? I have been on rooted phones so long and recently gave up unlimited gf plan b/c the price hike. I didn't use that much data anyway BUT I do tether as it is my only source of wifi in my house. I need it to run mobile hotspot.
If a person buys any other phone from V does the mobile hot spot still work or is it extra?
My Dad needs a new phone but he needs mobile hotspot bec he is on the road a lot. He has a nexus (older) and we have never paid for the hotspot so I really don't know how it works.
Thanks for any advice and I apologize if there are any threads answering these questions, I did look but didn't find anything that helped on these questions.
If you unroot the phone, you will lose your hotspot hack,but if you leave the phone stock rooted you can use the hotspot hack.
android-incredible said:
If you unroot the phone, you will lose your hotspot hack,but if you leave the phone stock rooted you can use the hotspot hack.
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if I update the phone will it lose root?
If you update the phone with jasmine rom or Sky dragon Rom you don't lose root.
It sounds like you might want to flash your phone completely back to stock, which, if you're selling it or giving it away, would make the most sense. This would delete anything on the phone and re-image the phone's entire drive (erasing photos, videos, data, etc) back to the way it was from the factory. If you do this, you will lose root. If you do this, the hotspot hack goes away, but that shouldn't prevent someone from using the phone as a mobile hotspot. My understanding is that the hotspot hack is is NOT needed to use your phone as a hotspot. More specifically, the hack to allow phones on an unlimited plan to use their phone as a hotspot.

Tethering with cricket.

Is there any workaround for using wifi tether? I have cricket and when I try to tether it tries to authenticate through at&t authentication garbage. This phone was given to me for free and I love it besides not being able to change the ROM. It's alright but not being able to tether really sucks.
It happen the same for me, I bought it contract free to use it in my country and with all of these blocks of ATT I can't use a lot of features
I have off topic question will att g5 unlocked work on sprint or verizon

Tether on Verizon without notifying

Is there a mod to allow tethering on Verizon without it notifying the carrier? I will be receiving my pixel 3 in about a week and will be using it on VZW. I got the google model.
Thanks
I never really got how a carrier could know you are tethering without having access to your phone (seems the phone should not be sharing that information). That being said, I would assume on a google model of the device old methods of masking would still work.
Like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/bypass-verizon-throttling-reaching-15gb-t3702942
Not sure though, as I do not face throttling for tethering.
wangdaning said:
I never really got how a carrier could know you are tethering without having access to your phone (seems the phone should not be sharing that information). That being said, I would assume on a google model of the device old methods of masking would still work.
Like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/bypass-verizon-throttling-reaching-15gb-t3702942
Not sure though, as I do not face throttling for tethering.
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Just upgrade to the new unlimited plan.
Tethering is included.
Yes. Root, then modify the build.prop by adding the following "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true". Works fine on grandfathered Verizon plan.

Moto g Power doesn't work with Foxfi?

Hello everyone!
I've been searching this forum with no luck on my question so I'm posting it here. Please, if I'm in the wrong place feel free to move this or delete if not allowed.
I've found some amazing information on this site in the past (thanks to so many smart, phone savvy, outstanding members!) and am really hoping someone can lead me in the right direction. I'm very luck that I'm still grandfathered on Verizons original unlimited data program (no throttling) and my old Samsung S4 finally gave up the ghost. I used Foxfi on the S4 for hotspot with no issues and loved Foxfi! I purchased a new unlocked Moto g Power (model XT2041-4) and had Verizon install the sim card and activate. The lady at Verizon said, since I bought the phone outright, it would NOT change my plan in any way. After getting home I installed Foxfi on the new phone but come to find out Foxfi does not support Android 10, which is what the new phone runs on. I am able to turn on the phones built in hotspot, and can connect devices to it, but now I'm getting really worried that Verizon will be able to tell that I'm hotspotting, which could void my plan.
As the phone is "unlocked", and I'm not getting any warnings or messages from Verizon stating that I must pay for hotspot when I turn on the phones built in hotspot, am I worried over nothing? If I do need to worry, can someone suggest a trustworthy app (I have no problem paying for a functional app, as I paid for Foxfi and it worked excellent) that would give me hotspot access without Verizon knowing?
Thank you all in advance for any advice/suggestions! I'm not as tech savvy as I once was so hopefully I didn't just get into a big problem with this phone.
-Dan
I have the same phone, but with T-Mobile. Since you already have FoxFi (and the key I assume) you should download PDaNet from the playstore or Google June Fabrics & get from there. When you open the app, at the bottom be sure to check the hide usage box & you should be good to go. Use mine sometimes for my laptop thru USB cable for gaming...( Have to because while T-Mobile gives you hotspot in their data plans, they greatly reduced the speed :/ ) Hope that helps!
T-Mobile gives you 3GB to share on standard data (Plus Up gives you 20GB)
(Sprint is my Carrier) Interestingly, I too was able to turn on the hotspot function of my device, however when I connected a device to the network, absolutely nothing would load. The system was being provided with an IP address, just no internet access. I ended up having to root the device to get it working properly. I found that even when attempting to use FoxFi/PDaNet and selecting the "Hide Usage" option, it would continue to block all traffic to the connected device. Not sure if you tested the actual Hotspot function, or just turned it on, but you will definitely want to make sure you test with a connected device.
just for my perspective, ( from a dutch guy) , you guys in the states are not allowed to use the tethering function?
here in the Netherlands it's no problem, never thought of using another hotspot app, on some days i tether about 3 to 5 gb , no problem in my unlimited dataplan, only when i go above 5gb per day then i have to "activate" every next gb per sms ( free of charge) and all that for € 26 /month.
Mmy average data usage would be somewhere around 20 gb per month

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