Hi my G3 is rooted and running 4.4.1. I have a software update that I have not downloaded since maybe May? I blocked any incoming updates after that. My question is if I do update it will it lose root? Is there a way to unroot the phone totally to sell or give it to a family member? Another question is if I do unroot does mobile hotspot still work? I have been on rooted phones so long and recently gave up unlimited gf plan b/c the price hike. I didn't use that much data anyway BUT I do tether as it is my only source of wifi in my house. I need it to run mobile hotspot.
If a person buys any other phone from V does the mobile hot spot still work or is it extra?
My Dad needs a new phone but he needs mobile hotspot bec he is on the road a lot. He has a nexus (older) and we have never paid for the hotspot so I really don't know how it works.
Thanks for any advice and I apologize if there are any threads answering these questions, I did look but didn't find anything that helped on these questions.
If you unroot the phone, you will lose your hotspot hack,but if you leave the phone stock rooted you can use the hotspot hack.
android-incredible said:
If you unroot the phone, you will lose your hotspot hack,but if you leave the phone stock rooted you can use the hotspot hack.
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if I update the phone will it lose root?
If you update the phone with jasmine rom or Sky dragon Rom you don't lose root.
It sounds like you might want to flash your phone completely back to stock, which, if you're selling it or giving it away, would make the most sense. This would delete anything on the phone and re-image the phone's entire drive (erasing photos, videos, data, etc) back to the way it was from the factory. If you do this, you will lose root. If you do this, the hotspot hack goes away, but that shouldn't prevent someone from using the phone as a mobile hotspot. My understanding is that the hotspot hack is is NOT needed to use your phone as a hotspot. More specifically, the hack to allow phones on an unlimited plan to use their phone as a hotspot.
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With a fully rooted TB running a custimzed Rom (currently BAMF 1.6 remix), will I still be able to use the built in mobile hotspot function without having to select and pay for a tethering plan once vz changes on the 15th?
I noticed while I was running the Perfect Storm rom that I didn't get any warnings/notifications about the hotspot data usage when I started the app, but on stock and BAMF those warnings pop up...
Anyone know how thats going to work?
No, it absolutely will not work. Unless you pay for it!!
Surely there has to be someway to make it work. I just came from an AT&T Inspire and once I had it rooted with a custom rom it was able to work, even though initially the sim lock prevented the app from even opening if the account didnt have a tethering plan activated.
I beg a developer or anyone that knows how to give a look at how we can do the same thing for the TB.
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Surely there has to be someway to make it work. I just came from an AT&T Inspire and once I had it rooted with a custom rom it was able to work, even though initially the sim lock prevented the app from even opening if the account didnt have a tethering plan activated.
I beg a developer or anyone that knows how to give a look at how we can do the same thing for the TB.
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I am guessing you didn't know what application you were using for tethering, because it sure wasn't the built in one that comes standard with the phone. You're obviously not the first person to ask this and there's plenty of solutions. Google is your friend.
You may not be able to use built in mobile hotspot, but there are other applications out there. Barnacle being one of them.
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I am guessing you didn't know what application you were using for tethering, because it sure wasn't the built in one that comes standard with the phone. You're obviously not the first person to ask this and there's plenty of solutions. Google is your friend.
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It absolutely was the mobile hotspot that was built in - or came standard, that worked on the Inspire after a root, unlock, and custom rom. Im aware of other third party apps, such as Wireless Tether, but I prefer the mobile hotspot app because of its functionality and the fact its already there.
It might have been the same "application" as far as you knew, but it might have just been a thin wrapper for something doing the same process as wireless tether for root or barnacle since you were using a custom rom. Unless you want to go and dissemble the code for the apk you are talking about, you really dont know.
You're also comparing apples and oranges. Ignore the fact the thunderbolt has a sim card in it because it's not used like a typical sim card on a GSM phone. The sim card might handle updates and such like any other GSM card, but you cant do much else with it. The phone has an ESN # still and that trumps it as well since you cant just take the phone anywhere network wise. The phone is still tied to a CDMA network more than anything else so you cant think something like a simple sim hack will work for it. It might be using the current GSM standard for 4g, but when it's out of range or on voice, it's using CDMA.
There are reasons why programs like barnacle and wireless tether exist and we're not all using a slightly modded, but more or less the same apk that comes with the phone. The best way for you to to figure out why since a simple "no, it cant be done" doesnt work is to try it yourself.
I posted this in another area of this forum , but I think this is the proper place...Just rooted my Samsung Galaxy SII AT&T and am looking for a tethering app and/or process to get tethering on my rooted phone. I use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and it worked flawlessly. I have done some searching and cant seem to find an answer.
What I am looking for is a tethering app (preferably free) to put on this phone so I can share my data connection. If someone could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.
Not to be a ass or anything but....
Did you even use search?
Point in the right direction below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=101111416
you know there is tethering option actually in the phone, dont need a separate app. Settings->Wireless and Network->Tethering and portable hotspot
@ Pmac 25...I searched...here and the net. I was drawing blanks. Not sure why I could not find anything. Sorry, but thank you for the help.
@highaltitude...I am cool with using the tethering app in the phone, can I use it without issues from AT&T? I mean I know they possibly could track me, but does the root allow use of the stock tethering app?
Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
I read in on of the threads you can just delete the tethermanager.apk. I think I can delete this from Titanium Backup. It is listed as TetheringManager 2.07.06(1). If/once I do this, I can just use the stock tethering app on the phone?
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Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
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High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
Thanks....
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High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
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@lonewolf....I think I can freeze or remove the TetheringManager 2.07.06(1) with Titanium Backup. is this the file you refer to in your post?
I have a Droid X2 (2.3.5/1.3.418) through Verizon. I have completed the 2 year contract, and I would like to stop the service, get a cheap phone for talking and use my X2 for wireless functions like a tablet. (My wireless is not provided by Verizon).
I have read a lot about how to root, why to root, how to open phone without data plan service. I would like to root so I don't have to worry about circumventing the phone features every time I use it.
My question is:
Is it better to root the phone while it is still on data plan, or should I wait until I drop the data plan? Thanks for your advice?
Rooting your phone won't be affected if you are on a data plan or not. You are only "rooting" the device for Superuser permissions. Just make sure you have everything downloaded that you need to root or you will have to use Wi-Fi to do so if you don't have the needed files. I would use a PC for that.
Hey guys,
A friend of mine just bought a Verizon S4, new in the box. Unfortunately he updated to OF1. He's on the Verizon network, but he's not under any sort of contract. So as far as I know, he should be eligible to have it unlocked by Verizon.
I'm reading that there is no current root method for OF1. If he gets the phone unlocked, will he have the ability to flash a third party (rooted) ROM? Or is he SOL?
All he really wants to do is enable wifi tethering. I know how to do this with root. And I know FoxFi can do this without root, but the lock screen requirement plus giving them the ability to snoop all traffic via trusted certificate sets off too many alarm bells for my liking.
Thanks.
Edit: I mixed up sim unlocking and bootloader unlocking, so disregard all that. I'd delete the whole thread and start one specific to tethering if I could, but I can't. If anyone has any recommendations on unlocking wireless tethering without root, I'd appreciate it.
I just don't understand, both my & wife's phone can wifi tether straight out of the box. It's under wifi settings. I don't see why you can not either. I have used it to connect my touch computer to Internet or whatever else I need to connect.
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I believe it depends on your plan. When he enables the mobile hotspot, it says something about asking the carrier for permission. It then fails and says that his plan does not allow tethering.
I'm on AT&T, not Verizon, so I'm not familiar with the exact plan names. But I think the new "Share Everything" plan or whatever it's called allows tethering. He's grandfathered in on the old unlimited data plan.
If I root my V10, will I get unlimited hotspot tethering?
That is actually a concern of mine. I have an Xperia Z2 unlocked, and I have unlimited tethering out of the box. I've cracked the screen and am looking at the V10 to replace it. But I REALLY don't want to lose my unlimited tethering. Does anyone have an answer to this question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/how-to-bypass-t-mobile-tethering-t2518117
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5-tethering-block-t2512674/page8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/fix-nexus-5-tethering-block-t2581035
So I pulled the trigger and bought the phone. Confirmed that it is reporting my tether usage. Haven't tried these yet because I just found these possible solutions. My phone has a slight issue with the screen, so I'm returning it and exchanging it at T-Mobile. Does anyone want to test these options? And would it be possible to modify system files through adb so I don't have to root my phone and can keep using Android Pay?