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Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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and questions go to the questions section
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and questions go to the questions section
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And I missed that fundamental point lol
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BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Rooting on it's own will not brick, slow down or loose battery life etc, it's what you do with the phone after you root that can do this, things like overclocking will affect battery, undervolting and underclocking will affect performance, but what you can do after rooting is things like use faster fix to slightly increase gps fix time, you can block ads, you can modify any system file etc etc, you can essentially do anything.
Latest Nightly is a term used for the latest version of CyanogenMod, which is an aftermarket firmware (custom ROM) new versions are built on their servers every night hence the name Nightly.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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CM10.1 is very smooth and in my opinion even smoother compared to Stock TouchWiz. Just flash it and if you for some reason don`t like it, you can always go back to a Stock TouchWiz ROM. There are plenty to choose from here at XDA. Oh and don`t ask what`s the best ROM around here, just try them out yourself
Oh and if you deside to Root and to flash a ROM on your device then read every little detail on how to do it. I`ve seen plenty of cases here, where people screwed up their devices because they flashed wrong stuff on their phone.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Its considerably smoother! If CM10.1 is hot butter, then TouchWiz is cold syrup.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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It is smooth but as theshawty had pointed out it's not as good as it could be due to Sammy.
If you want a mix of both worlds you would do better looking for a stable stock based Rom and then theming it to suit. There isn't much to gain from flashing cm atm. If you want the launcher just download nova, apex or halo as these are the same as stock Google launcher used in cm builds.
Drew
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Rooting itself does not do much difference unless you flash roms. I suggest you try Cyanogenmod, AOKP for starters. Then you can go with others like RootBox, PAC man ROm or ParanoidKangdroid which for me are the best there are. Other ROMs like Carbon and Liquidsmooth are pretty good too.
I suggest you download Goomanager first and browse between compatible Roms. Also learn how to do Nandroid backups and regular. Trust me, you're gonna need them.
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As mentioned in previous posts cyanogen based roms FOR S3 in my opinion are not as smooth as expected. If u install a custom samsung based rom and a good kernel, i find that they are as smooth or sometimes smoother than cyanogen. Also the latest full stock samsung roms and kernels are really smooth and battery friendly.
As u dont have an issue in rooting. u should try all roms n decide.
And rooting does have many benefits. Especially the audio mods will completely change the audio quality of your phone. ACID with boeffla sound control is amazing. Get good quality earphones also to experience this.
Hey guys I've had my DNA since launch weekend. I've become interested now that I've seen there are methods for S-OFF and then now return to stock methods.
I am fully stock with the most recent OTA update. So I need help in figuring out which methods of S-OFF are easiest as I know I've seen different requirements for each one and it seems they keep changing so I can't keep up with them.
Also with the ROM's, are there any fully complete ones that work 99.9999% with the phones features. I have used CM 10 on my Incredible 2. Any thoughts as to which ROM's to start out with?
I know I could search the $hit out of this, but I read into things too much and then just get frustrated when trying to find a ROM or a method and never pick something.
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I moonshined my phone this weekend, so now it's time to look at each of the ROM's that you guys mentioned! Thanks again for the help in this!!
I really would appreciate any help on the matter and I thank you in advance!!
NOS7 seems to be my most fav all around so far. Very complete
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like viper Dna the best no bugs at all very smooth and you can have tweaks and customize it to your liking. Moonshine to achieve s off worked flawlessly for me and it can now be run on windows so it's very simple.
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I personally think Revone method is the easiest way to get S-off .
If you want 99% bug free I would recommend NOS7
Moonshine -> TWRP -> Carbon -> Win
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I'd probably suggest PAC or carbon. I'm on PAC right now, but next time I clean flash a rom, carbon is going on my phone.
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I'd suggest not asking users as you will get a different answer from every single one of them. Research each ROM and make a decision based on what you want.
As for S-Off, both methods are insanely easy. Pick one and go with it.
Phaded said:
I'd suggest not asking users as you will get a different answer from every single one of them. Research each ROM and make a decision based on what you want.
As for S-Off, both methods are insanely easy. Pick one and go with it.
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I understand that different people will like different ROM's, but their suggestions do help with making a starting choice in figuring out which ones to give a shot first. I just tend to over research stuff and never making a choice as I can't decide which to pick. Sometimes it's easier to just start off with suggestions from others who have already done what I was trying to do.
Again thanks everyone for your inputs and suggestions! I'm going to research the methods for getting S-Off and pick one. I will most likely get this done this weekend.
If you are a fan of Sense 5 and okay with using android 4.1, then go for newt's NOS7 rom, it's essentially bug-free and super smooth.
If you're an AOSP kind of guy, I would highly suggest flyhalf's CM10.1 build paired with crpalmer's aosp kernel. Keep in mind that it is a WIP, so there is plenty of room for optimization, and some features (such as bluetooth audio) may not be working.. it is android 4.2.2, so you do have some features over 4.1, but it's whatever you prefer. There are more updates on CM based roms for the DNA because it is still generally new, and the developers are active on their respective roms.
I definitely would go with a Sense 5 Rom. I had nothing with problems with CyanogenMod on this phone. I take a lot of the talk of good things about it on this phone as circle jerking. I really had quite a few problems, even on the later versions that came out earlier this month.
Switched to NOS M7 and have had no problems what-so-ever.
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I definitely would go with a Sense 5 Rom. I had nothing with problems with CyanogenMod on this phone. I take a lot of the talk of good things about it on this phone as circle jerking. I really had quite a few problems, even on the later versions that came out earlier this month.
Switched to NOS M7 and have had no problems what-so-ever.
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As offensive as your post can be to developers, I do agree that a sense 5 ROM is most likely what the OP will enjoy using the most, and personally I also enjoyed NOS M7 quite a bit.
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pio_masaki said:
As offensive as your post can be to developers, I do agree that a sense 5 ROM is most likely what the OP will enjoy using the most, and personally I also enjoyed NOS M7 quite a bit.
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I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely. BUT I wanted to give this guy my most honest opinion from my experience. I don't want him to end up Rom swapping like mad if he doesn't have to, I've had zero problems with NOS M7. On Cyanogen I had force quits, bluetooth cutting in and out, wireless tether dropping constantly, now I have none of that.
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I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely.
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No, you don't or you wouldn't call it circle jerking. Given the OPs requirements a sense 5 ROM, NOS M7 in particular would seem to best fit his requirements, which also seems to fit yours, no reason to talk like that about our work OR the users that support and enjoy it enough to recommend another user give it a try, even though they really don't meet the OPs stated needs in a ROM. Everyone has their opinion, especially on XDA, there's no reason to be insulting because you disagree with their ROM choice.
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Bad terminology, you're correct. It's been a looooooong day, and lots of work, lots of redditting, saw the term and used it. I should have re-read my post before I said I wasn't trying be insulting because that totally was. I'm sorry.
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I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely. BUT I wanted to give this guy my most honest opinion from my experience. I don't want him to end up Rom swapping like mad if he doesn't have to, I've had zero problems with NOS M7. On Cyanogen I had force quits, bluetooth cutting in and out, wireless tether dropping constantly, now I have none of that.
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Carbon is my daily driver and I've had zero problems. Granted I don't use blue tooth or tether, but I haven't had a single force close. I had some connection issues, but due to a bad flash.
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I personally used the Moonshine method. It was very simple. I already use a Linux distribution so my PCs OS wasn't an issue. Just run the exploit and, for me at least, everything went very smoothly. I tried out CM10.1, Revolt, Carbon, Rootbox (one of the earlier more buggy builds), and Hatka Supreme. I'm currently running CarbonROM (the 6/11 build) with stock kernel and am loving it! I've considered trying the latest build of Rootbox, but not sure if I want to go through the setup process again. Its all a matter at personal opinion, just my $0.02 USD!
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I just moonshined my phone, so now it's time to look at each of the ROM's that you guys mentioned! Thanks again for the help in this!!
+1 for NOS M7 haven't had a single issue with it. Only issues I have had are with mods or themes for it. Can't speak for an AOSP ROM as I haven't tried one yet. Also FYI I would recommend using crpalmer's kernel.
I'm in the same boat OP. I tried Viper's rom and it was too much of a change for me. I wasn't ready to ditch the stock (or a stock-like) interface yet. Been researching roms, but it's tough like mentioned earlier, b/c it's very subjective.
I just want everything to work, debloat, hotspot capabilities and some customization options. I like the stock look and I haven't had the phone long enough to tire of it just yet.
I've had a rooted phone before and I do get bored with things after a while, so I know I'll run through roms over the next time period before I buy a new phone. I want to get my mileage out of each one.
I tried to download Hatka (sp?) earlier today, but I guess it's unavailable atm.
Downloading Nos7 now. It's going EXTREMELY slow though. I even switched to wifi and still at 5% after 4 minutes.
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I'm in the same boat OP. I tried Viper's rom and it was too much of a change for me. I wasn't ready to ditch the stock (or a stock-like) interface yet. Been researching roms, but it's tough like mentioned earlier, b/c it's very subjective.
I just want everything to work, debloat, hotspot capabilities and some customization options. I like the stock look and I haven't had the phone long enough to tire of it just yet.
I've had a rooted phone before and I do get bored with things after a while, so I know I'll run through roms over the next time period before I buy a new phone. I want to get my mileage out of each one.
I tried to download Hatka (sp?) earlier today, but I guess it's unavailable atm.
Downloading Nos7 now. It's going EXTREMELY slow though. I even switched to wifi and still at 5% after 4 minutes.
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Here is the Hatka download http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22909751817929231
I run CM10 only
Droid DNA
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
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I'm going to flash helly right now.
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Sot this is not a "favorite rom?" or "which rom is best?" thread. I know those are frowned upon, because people are investing their energy into developing these ROMs here and we aren't here to judge their work.
Rather, I am looking to see which ROMs are best oriented towards a certain criteria - both in their goals and execution. That's not a subjective judgement; I am looking for objective design focuses, which I think is a valid question to ask.
My Note is my sole mobile device, and as such I am looking for:
Stability
Battery Life
Speed
UI Tweeks To Enhance Efficency (mulitasking, toggles, etc.)
Modern features (kit kat > jellybean > etc.)
Considering those priorities in that order, what ROM would you recommend?
Beanstalk
Liquidsmooth
PAC-Man
AOKP
CandyKat
Dirty Unicorns
Padawan
Something else?
Thanks!
I recommend you try them all, and see what works best on your device the way you like it setup!
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I recommend you try them all, and see what works best on your device the way you like it setup!
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The problem with that approach is that setting things up on my phone is never a simple or easy process. I always have a hellish time getting everything backed up, restored and setup again the way I want it... that is why I am asking for some guidance as to what ROM may best fit my needs as opposed to blindly flashing everything that moves.
My friend, you may not have any choice. Every device is going to run differently, and it sounds as if you already know that. The troubles and hassles we all face in setting up our phones is the burden we all bear, being flashaholics.
Truthfully, you cant have good without evil and this is not Burger King. You will have to sacrifice something. We just shoot for as many on our list as we can get. If that is the priority of your list, you may want to consider ICS. That would probably handle 4 of your 5.
You cant be in a hurry to satisfy your list. 440bro is correct, only you know what you can tolerate. Unfortunately you will have to tolerate setting up. Install and run for a week. You are not going to know how a rom is going to run in a couple hours.
Just suggestions......start with ICS.
So you dont set everything up???
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captemo said:
My friend, you may not have any choice. Every device is going to run differently, and it sounds as if you already know that. The troubles and hassles we all face in setting up our phones is the burden we all bear, being flashaholics.
Truthfully, you cant have good without evil and this is not Burger King. You will have to sacrifice something. We just shoot for as many on our list as we can get. If that is the priority of your list, you may want to consider ICS. That would probably handle 4 of your 5.
You cant be in a hurry to satisfy your list. 440bro is correct, only you know what you can tolerate. Unfortunately you will have to tolerate setting up. Install and run for a week. You are not going to know how a rom is going to run in a couple hours.
Just suggestions......start with ICS.
So you dont set everything up???
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Question: why go for ICS? Isn't that pretty dated at this point? Are the KK and even the JB builds all so buggy or power hungry that I need to reach back that far to get something stable & efficient?
Just going off your list....
KK seems to use more battery. Never found it buggy myself
The 2 Touchwiz based 4.1.2 are solid and dependable. Most complain about lag, but set up right my phone ran orgasmic.
ICS is going to give you best battery, rock solid , but may not have all the bells and whistles you want.
4.2.2 is just a random reboot nightmare for most.
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If you use speakerphone, I wouldn't use any rom above 4.1.2 (CM 10.0.0). Any other ROM has the speakerphone echo bug.
I notice quite a lot of rom threads are being closed...
only a few are being updates while lots were lasted update near the beginning of the month...
Lol.. There are too many roms already and almost all of them are very stable. So why do we need nightly/weekly updates if we have something like pure nexus or chroma running solid? Custom roms will live forever especially for nexus devices.
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Another one was added today. I'm patiently waiting to see if pure nexus appears with cmte. Its in the works.I hear
No end in sight! This is XDA ftw!
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/42v96a/cataclysm_threads_closed_by_mods/
The community legit doesn't deserve for him to continue.
His threads would literally make me sick the way ppl treated him. The way they DEMANDED alterations as opposed to asking. The way they asked over and over, despite his firm NO.
I'm gonna miss the hell out of his ROMs. The best. If some major changes happen, maybe Ill move to Pure Nexus, but for now... and a long while... I think the latest Cata mod will be on my phone.
This community truly sucks, sometimes
This has definitely been true for non-Nexus phones. I was big into LG phones, I had the G2, G3, and G4 (all on Verizon). The G2 had tons of development, both stock and AOSP ROMs, and the G3 was similar but noticeably less. The G4 has been non-existent. I remember the days when virtually all phones were rooted and unlocked by devs, with lots of custom ROMs, but this seems to be going away very quickly. Now it's likely if you buy a non-Nexus device, it won't get root at all, let alone custom ROMs.
Looking at the 6P development, I see what you're talking about. Lots of ROMs that started when the phone came out have ceased getting updates, and you only have a handful of solid ROMs to choose from.
I wouldn't be surprised if custom roms are a dying breed. IMHO part of it is that Android is slowly moving towards getting the basic feature set and UI tweaks that people want, and more manufacturers are trimming down their bloated UI's (some exceptions obv, unnamed). But also --- this may sound cynical, but just from my own observation: Many of these enthusiast-worked/powered/funded projects are far too often met with self-entitled users (in the very literal sense of the word) who think their use of the rom/software/art/w/e entitles them to complain endlessly about every little thing and every minute lack of an update (or desired/demanded feature) for what is usually a free or donationware product. Not to mention the people who are too careless/hasty to follow instructions and end up bricking their devices, only to blame the devs and spew a bunch of vitriol. I don't blame anyone who quits at all.
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/42v96a/cataclysm_threads_closed_by_mods/
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That's one breathe taking letter! Wish him the best and this Developer will be missed by XDA...
I love custom ROMs!!! I remember when I unlocked my first smart phone the first evo and I found the perfect stable ROM for it...now every time I get a new phone I find myself searching for a ROM I think it makes whatever handset you're using perfect. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to develop
the past roms I used, have not closed down.. Cataclysm was the second rom I used and liked...
I try not to use any roms that are CM based.. lol.. not sure why... I like the AOSP based roms better...
XDA has been going downhill for years now. Seen some amazing devs and funny members just up and leave over the years for this very reason.
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Every ROM will meet its end some time... Beanstalk disappeared. Avatar halted. AOKP is no longer active. ParanoidAndroid and PACman had gone big in form but small in functionality and usefulness. Even CM, with Google incorporating more and more changes into each new Android version and limiting features these ROMs can touch, might die out someday.
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Yeah some people here do not understand devs do this in there free time, for fun theycowe you nothing and you are very privileged to be getting such incredible free software. This upsets a lot if devs and makes them leave the community.
I stopped publishing my own approach of a ROM after I got rid of my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and moved on to Nexus devices. I'm happy with a customised Stock based ROM which suits me well. I'm not sure if anybody else would be interested in it since the Nexus forums offer a great number of custom ROMs, some of which are filled with extra stuff. I can somehow understand the guys who stop publishing their work. I never asked for donations, in fact I don't have a PayPal account linked to my profile Maintaining a ROM is a huge effort, especially if you're on your own and not part of a team.
ROMs are no longer needed plain and simple. Back in the hay days of ROMs, Galaxy S2 and 3, HTC EVO, ROMs were a necessity considering how badly optimized phones were back then.. running great software with horrible specs. Developers made the phone a lot better... I still remember the days of running Viper ROM on my samsung epic on the Sprint network.. those were the days.
Fast forward today I'm going on two years without flashing a ROM and reality is I see no need for it.
I pose a question to the great Nexus community, what's the purpose of flashing ROMs when the device runs perfect out the box?
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Root is a must for me since it allows you to get rid of some unwanted Google Apps (eg Google+, Google Play Games etc), use a Adblocker and special Apps like eg Titanium Backup or LMT
Custom roms, with the exception of a select few, have always been highly overrated imo. Most of them take software that is already created, debloat it (which we can do ourselves) and add some features that anyone can get through xposed, etc.
I used to always laugh when people would jump in a rom thread with outrageous claims like their battery life doubled, it's 100x smoother than stock, etc. Placebo effect runs high on custom roms imo.
With that being said, I've flashed just as many roms as most of you. I still see the value in some of them.
But as other people have said, it's just not as necessary anymore. As long as you can root, you can debloat, add xposed if you wanted, etc.
Doesn't seem to make as big of a difference as before.
Yeah it's not how it used to be and that probably for the better, most anything you could want can be done through Xposed and a custom kernel. While most custom roms are more stable than they were in the early days(seems to have more to do with a more stable aosp), there isn't much incentive and there are often still bugs. It's not because devs are bad at what they do, but building a stable rom requires a team of people and testing environments that people just don't have at home. Early in the days of windows mobile and Android roms were very poorly optimised out of the box, but it'd not really like that anymore.
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